Brotizolam is much better than triazolam in my opinion.Originally Posted by Boiling in Acid
Brotizolam is much better than triazolam in my opinion.Originally Posted by Boiling in Acid
I've read that taking .5mg of halcion is as high as one can go without going into "dangerous" dosages, yet i took 8mg of klonopin throughout the day today, but a .5mg xanax pill at the end, and im feeling very mild effects... like i cant wait very well, but i feel depressed and pissed off - not euphoric or anything at all. because of this i have a feeling that .5mg of halcion wont do anything for me, or at lesat not much. is it safe to to make than .5mg of halcion; or are is there something better out there to give me euphoria and a sense of well being? I also have xanax. i took 2mg yesterday and ti was pretty lame... didnt do too much. felt like maybe 2 to 3 mg of klonopin.
anywya, what would you guys suggest regardig doses of halcion AND xanax? separately of course, just how much can i safely take of one? and which would be best?
I have heard that non-tolerance peoson can go as much as 1mg without going to dangerious dosage. Tolerant person can go much higher. The only problem is, you will go to deep sleep for 1mg dosage.Originally Posted by mikebobjohn
I forget if I've already replied to this thread.
I have used triazolam roughly 7 times, and it is unlikely that I will have another opportunity to do so.
at .5 milligrams, it kicked in very rapidly. For about a half hour, I was thinking "whoa shit! I'm pretty loopy!" I promptly forgot the rest of the evening. I reportedly brushed my teeth and went to bed. That's it.
I found .25 mg to be a more appropriate dose. To tell you the truth, I didn't like them too much. I found the ratio of sedation to other effects to be too high, and their short duration is a bit annoying.
No hangovers. No hallucinations.
You would be better taking MDMA yes, as long as you keep a long period of time between each experience, to get the best out of each experience. And I wouldn't be amazed if Halcion would be more dangerous than Rohypnol, though Roofies are one of the most dangerous benzo's there is as well, it has one of the lowest safety profiles of all benzo's. Too bad you can't get Rohypnol in the US, I just got a refill for my Rohypnol scripted by my doctor todayOriginally Posted by mikebobjohn
I've had a prescription for 2x1mg Rohypnol a night for some time now, and also 15mg Dormicum for occasional use when I really can't fall asleep(I have had severe insomnia for some time now). I'm going to the US this summer, and I was wondering how I was going to take both with me when I'm going through customs. I also have a prescription for 35mg Dexedrine a day, would that cause much hassle with customs and all? I was mainly wondering about the Dormicum but even moreso about the Rohypnol since it's apparently illegal. Does anyone know something about the laws that would apply to my medication and me being a tourist? Any info would be much appreciated!
Amen to that. Triazolam is damn weak crap. I took 5 of them a few weeks ago, I didn't even feel like I took something, and I didn't have a killer tolerance at that time, I was prescribed 2mg Rohypnol and 15mg Dormicum at that time, but I still should at least have felt something, but no, it did shit. I had a full recollection of the night before, no amnesia at all.Originally Posted by Aeon Psyche
That's bullshit, paradoxical effects have occured in some people at that dose, but those were very rare, and only happened in non-tolerant people.Originally Posted by mikebobjohn
There are ofcourse much better things out there to give euphoria and a sense of well being, go for Rohypnol, it's both at fulfilling both of your demands, and it's very relaxing to. Have you tried out mxing your benzo's with a small amount of alcohol though? I don't find most benzo's euphoric on their own(except for Rohypnol and Dormicum as well as IM/IV Rivotril), but when I drink a few beers or glasses of wine with them, it makes it a lot more relaxing or even euphoric. Don't overdo it though, just stick to a few glasses or else you tend to forget too much, do stupid shit or fall asleep.
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As usual, I am in total agreement with RQ's opinion on a benzoOriginally Posted by RorerQuaalude714
I was precribed Triazolam at one point and it was the most powerful sleeping agent I've ever had. For me, it is take pill - pass out 20mins later. I can't even comment on its effects on anxiety since I would always just fall asleep. It is also quite powerful in that it doesn't seem to be greatly affected by cross-tolerance with other benzos.
One thing to be very careful about: I experienced withdrawals after just 2 weeks of use. I assume this is due to this benzo's extremely short half-life. Another problem with this one is that after a few days of use, you may start experiencing rebound wakefulness in the middle of the night. It happened to me. This, like midazolam, is one benzo you seriously do not want to mix with other depressants, especially alcohol since it seems to cause more respiratory depression than other benzos.
I experienced no hallucinations, and this isn't much of a recreational drug unless you find sleep particularly fun.
And what was the dosage?Originally Posted by Jamshyd
Do you think it can cause respiratory depression even if I dont mix with any other drug or alcohol? What is the safe level for a non-tolerant 140 lbs person?Originally Posted by Jamshyd
The most I have ever taken was 1mg, actually - and that seriously knocked me out. Keep in mind that I have some benzo tolerance already.
While I doubt that it is dangerous on its own as long as you stick with sane doses, however, to my knowledge this is the first benzo ever to be withdrawn from the market (in the UK) for being potentially dangerous. I am not sure dangerous in what way though, maybe someone in the UK can tell you more. At the very end, I think this benzo is only good for novelty. The sleep thing is not that important anymore since brotizolam is now common and I found it to be just as effective as a hypnotic without the need to make you pass out every time you take it.
I would recomend you take the smallest dose medically-recommended. I believe that would be 0.25mg. I was able to feel that dose very strongly when I first tried it.
My favourite benzo, just a shame they only last for 45 minutes. Definitely more euphoric than any others that I've tried.
to psychonaut "My dick is bigger than yyooooooooouuurrss. my dick is bigger than yoooouurrsss. i get fucking roofies scripted to me every day and none of you do so im so much fucking cooler than all 0of you becasue your benzos are all shitty and none of you can get as good of shit as i can. oh by the way I POST THIS IN EVERY FUCKING THREAD AS WELL that, i get roofies prescribed and you dont, and halcion and klonopin and xanax all suck balls and dont even work compared to the most dangerous and best benzo in the world tha i get prescribed.......ROYHYPNOL"
fucking lame ass shut the fuck up
now your trying to tell me royhypnol is stronger than even halcion? boy ....haha whatever. ill just leave you to let the vultures pick your bones hahahhahaahahhaa
back to this thread
HALCION now really is king of the benzos. i have to admit, id have sex with this shit if i coudl. mmmmmmm sweet swweet benzo sex.
really though. its halcion. what more is there to say?
ive been prescribed halcion for the last 7 months at least...
i have a massive benzo tolerance, so this is one of the few benzos i can actually FEEL.
its got an incredibly short duration, so i find it pretty useless for anything but recreation on its own.
im sure its been discussed, but triazolam can also be injected, adding to its appeal if youre a real hard drug user. very few benzos are worth injecting, triazolam is one.
some people report hallucinations or a dream-like state, but i just find them relaxing and probably the most euphoric of all the benzos ive tried.
EDIT: guess ill add my dosage: im scripted .75mg a night, but i certainly cant feel that. i can feel it around 3-4mg, but ive never encountered anyone in real life who could do that. most people just pass out, which is a shame, because halcion feels GOOD.
ill also add that ive probably come close to hurting myself pretty badly by mixing these with alcohol. they, like xanax, tend to make me do stupid things, like drink. be weary of that effect!
definatly. definatly most euphoric, but yeah, definatly the shortest. but stilll, its a REAL nice treat every oncv in a while especialy if your on other benzos you cant feel. halcion will always without fail fuck your shit up
Who is this "klown" kid, don't you have DARE classes to be in, or does your kindergarten have a pc with internet connection you toddlers are allowed to use? I'm stuck with a little kiddy hanging on my leg, it just doesn't want to let go. If you won't let go of my leg I'm going to call your mommy you hear me .. If it's just because you're a fan of me, you can join my fanclub for free.
Halcion is rubbish, if it would be that strong it would be a pre-anesthetic like Dormicum, but it's too weak for such purposes so they stick to Dormicum. It could have been nicer if the molecule could be made more resistant to metabolition to make it stronger and longer lasting.
Come on now children, no need to squabble.
Yeah, psych0naut, don't turn this thread into a flame war. Benzos are highly subjective, you may find Halcion to be rubbish, but many find it to be exceptional. There's no need to flame klowns for no real reason.
all benzos eventually lose their efficacy when used over time.
compare it to opioids: if you start out doing heroin, hydrocodone is most likely going to blow.
...but if you start out with hydro and work your way up... you end up loving both.
honestly i cant really feel halcion anymore, but when i could, the shit kicked ass.
Rohypnol is treated as a far more dangerious rape drug. If you search for rohypnol on web, we know. I also found one place that rohypnol is 4-10 times as powerful as Halcion and 10 times as powerful as valium. My question is, why rohypnol is treated as a far more dangerious drug than Halcion when it comes to date rape?Originally Posted by klowns
benzos cause amnesia, making them ideal for date rape.
the duration/strength of sedation associated with rohypnol is why it has such nasty connotations.
shit tho, i wouldnt waste a roofie on raping someone... what a fucking waste. id rather just eat the fuxing pill...
Unfortunenately a handfull of pricks in this world are that miserable to use Rohypnol and such as a tool for date rape. The rates of actual date rape by spiking a drink with GHB, ketamine or benzodiazepines is way, way lower than most people think though. It's been hyped by the media, but investigations into these cases all proved it was either just alcohol on itself(date rape drug #1), or just people who took too much and didn't want to claim responsibillity. Unfortunenately a few of women do had their drinks spiked, though it rarely actually happens, but it would be disrespecting to those who did had it happen to them to say it never happens, just rarely.