The couple times I have injected the fentanyl i didnt really get much of a rush but i did a very small dosage. tomorrow im gonna put the gel from a 50 in a spoon. i was thinking putting about 1/4th of the gel from the patch. hopefully i attain a rush this way. the other times ive done it ive gotten some nice aftereffects but no real rush.
if i could have any script in the world what would be the best IV instant realease opiate i could get? morphine sulfate instant release is good but what else? besides dilaudid i do 16mg of those at a time and i get a rush but its not warm and fuzzy and euphoric, its a rush of heavyness and thats it.
snowblowjoe, I'm not gonna try and tell you what to do or whatever. Just remember the guy on the opening page of this site. 27 years old and hes dead. Not even saying it was from drugs... but think about what ur doing?
to answer your question Dilaudid is the best Rx IMO to IV.
missed what you said... I guess Oxy would be next in line for me. A little stronger maybe then Dillies but not as euphoric.
How did the guy die? Trust me I'm much safer than I come off as on here. Thanks for your concern though.
Dillies aren't euphoric to me at all, which is a shame. OC's are good but I crash off those and feel like shit the next day. I'm thinking IR Morphine is my best bet, unless I could somehow get IR oxymorphone.
^Look in the shrine for staypuft, he just died within the last month IVing fentanyl...
Thats crazy. I was just using him as an example because I knew he died. I had no idea it from IV Fentanyl. RIP Thaddeus.Originally Posted by BollWeevil
As far as IVing opiates snowblowjoe, I have not IV'd morphine but Ive heard it is the best out of all of them. MS contin is probably hard to IV but if you can get liquid that would be your best bet. Oxy never made me crash or feel bad. It was little shortlived tho. Honestly, the best opiate I ever IV'd was heroin and I cant even get it anymore...
Snow, why not just get some H and bang that?
because the smack up here sucks ass. shitty ass tar cut to hell with god knows what. if it was good dope then id def go that route. where would one find the shrine to staypuft? OC's are def short lived, 5 minutes after i'd bang them it would practically be gone.
The shrine. It's all the way at the bottom of the forums list, in Bluelight History.
ive injected the fent-gel about 4 times now and ur right there is no real rush its wierd but i did get some nice effects afterwards....i do not recommend it its not worth the risk!
however i should mention how little i was injecting...maybe the amount i smoke in three hits or so. maybe 1/10 a patch?
dunno be careful i wouldnt recommend this....just take it buccally i get better effects than IV.
I have shot a 50mcg gel patch simply by mixing it with about 2 parts hot water and didn't have any problems, but I don't know if I would do it again. I read a lot of bad stuff about what the other chemicals in that patch do to your liver. Besides, shooting a gel is kind of creepy.
I would recommend just putting it under your tongue. It has a buccal bioavailability around 50% which is actually pretty good and it still kicks in relatively quick; about twice as quick as insulated heroin. You won't get the kind of rush you are looking for because of how non-soluble that gel is in the bloodstream. One of the main reasons H has such a powerful rush is because it is so soluble in blood as passes the Blood-Brain barrier is a couple heart-beats. Remember that the Fentanyl has to be filtered out of that gel by your body AND make it's way up into your brain before you get the effect you want.
The only reason I shot that gel in the first place was because I was addicted to the needle itself and if you have this kind of addiction my friend, I would recommend you break it real quick. I leads one to do very stupid things.
Just curious, has anyone here tried drying the gel and THEN mixing it with water and shooting it up? If Fentanyl is like any other opiate, which I suspect it is, it should be able to sustain temperatures up to about 470 degrees F.
yes ive tried that method solamon. theres no need to dry it out first, just add hot water to the gel or ethanol and you should be alright.
hey solamon did u get any rush from injecting? i do like bucally it lasts the longest. i dont like smoking it cus it is very short lived. bucally is the best way in my opinion. but tomorrow im gonna take like 1/4th of the gel from a 50 and inject it. unless soloman says there is no rush. if there is no rush then there is no point to inject it.
Just for the record, sucking off the coating of an 80 doesnt by pass the time release. Even crushing it only semi-by passes it. you have to get it to a very very fine poweder. then is when you will by pass it. I cant believe how so many people think that by sucking the coating off they will be ok...Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
i told u there is no real rush from injecting the fentanyl gel...
buccal combined with hits off the foil is the single best way to enjoy these fent patches....the buccal for efficiency and duration and the smoked for the amazing rush!!
i recently found i could get som fent. patches for pretty cheap .... is there ways to take the gel out and make it for iv.... i recently had some fent. laced dope and it was ridiculous....
i wasnt talking to you ktx i was asking soloman.
pokergootch i would suck off the coating and crush the powder very finely before it was injected.
It can be done, but it is very dangerous and is how a lot of people die. Know how much fentanyl is in the patch total and always over-estimate your dose, never under-estimate. Fentanyl is nothing to fuck with. a couple mg is enough to kill even a tolerant user. I'm keeping this thread open just for the sake of harm reduction. It needs to be discussed that IVing a duragesic is a bad idea, especially when it's impossible to know exactly how much you're doing.
I'm going to merge this with the recent IV fentanyl thread
Not really. The "rush", what there was of it, was really delayed and rather muted. The gel is so insoluble in your blood I can't imagine it getting into my brain all too quickly. If you are used to the H rush, Fen in gel is going to be a let down.Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
damn that sucks soloman. thanks for the info tho. have u ever tried mixing ethanol with the gel? it breaks down the gel much more than hot water would and maybe that would increase the rush. if the rush isnt amazing tho then there is no point to inject fentanyl unless you get liquid vials. buccal is the best way in my opnion, i found a way to not swallow for 20 minutes. i need about 75 or 100mcg tho for it to really hit me. 50 patches barely work for me
damnit i was looking forward to this.. very very sad
I've smoked 2 x 75ug/h patches with only moderate results, but then they were the patches I was on for a year. Funny thing is, I still get high off drinking a bottle of codeine linctus (400mg). I suspect that their is less cross-tolerance with fentanyl and 'traditional' opiates.
staypuft died last month injecting fentanyl, no?
thats the rumor on the streets sumo