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    ok so i have been doing these 30mg blues for about 3 years now. i love them lol. its the best drug i have ever took. the high is great and soo different than regular oc 40s or 80s i just get in such a good mood. i am not happy though with the generics. usually i snort a half of one and im good. or snort a hole if i want to really hit. idk i just do them on the weekends mostly so i never got a high tolerance. but the Mallinckrodt generics just suck ass. i took two today over the course of some time and never even felt really hitting. and the whites really blow. snorting them would be a waste its best to eat them.

    anyone else feel this way? i work in a pharmacy and swear that MOST generics are the same as the brand. but this is quite the opposite.

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    the brand 15 roxis are same size and shape they are just green.

    and yes i do see a difference in the generics

    like i posted above, the blue Mallinckrodt generics are more better than the white ones, dont know the name of the manufac tho. the white 30 generics are horrible though

    brand roxicodone is best.
     

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    wait..

    you just posted a link from the yahoo search? thats lame i was asking for some real opinions from bluelighters not copy and paste shit.
     

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    i'm terribly sorry.
     

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    NE one else have thoughts on brand and generic roxis?

    come on bluelighters i know you've tried them LoL
     

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    I havnt had those same pills, but i think more than a few people on this board agree that malinckodt pills SUCK. I used to get the 5mg IR oxy pills and i would eat handfulls of them, going way past my normal dose only to be let down because i wasnt high. I dont get it, by law it has to contain the same amount as the brand name pill. Maybe it is a different formulation or something?
     

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    ALWAYS ask the pharmacist what brand of generic they're going to give you, and if they saw mallinckrodt then do not accept them. The lower cost of the pills dont account for the lowered potency IMO. Im really not sure if there are any good generics because the only ones i tried were the mallinckdrodts and the originals.
     

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    Which roxicodone is the brand-name (not generic)? What does it look like or what company is it made by?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctman42069
    Which roxicodone is the brand-name (not generic)? What does it look like or what company is it made by?
    http://www.pharmer.org/imprints/narcotics is a good page for this kind of questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by lyserg
    The lower cost of the pills dont account for the lowered potency
    I really don't get this either. Umm... could it be, that some of the generics are just so hardly pressed and the binders used take a longer time to break down, than e.g. with the brand name. I mean, if you get the maximum plasma concentration of the active ingredient in 30 min with a preparation from company X and then with a preparation of the same active ingredient from company Y would take 60 min to get the maximum plasma concentration of the active ingredient - the difference would be considerable. When we're talking about small amounts, like 5 mg oxycodone, it really makes a difference if you get the max. plasma concentration in 30 mins compared to e.g. 60 min (I wonder if there really is such a big differences.). Anyway, I'm just guessing. It would be nice to get an answer from someone from the regulars of ADD.
    Last edited by Survival0200; 07-01-2007 at 23:17.
     

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    the 30mg ones made by amid pharm are scored with an 8 on top and 215 on bottom, these are to me different, i think theyre better. they are also skinnier
     

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    ^^^those are the ones i get and they are better than the mallincrap version for sure they are tiny compared to the extended release they are even a lt smaller than other generics
     

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    Ctman:
    Roxicodone is the trade name for the 15 & 30 mg oxycodone IR pills made by Roxane pharma
     

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    I actually posted this in reply to anouther question on roxicodone...

    Generics can have a percentage less of the active ingredient then the brand name medication; I am not sure the exact percentage. This is why "some" generics are stronger then others. I know for a fact that Mallinckrodt have less then 30mg in each tablet, there package insert states they have 27mg in each 30mg pill, there 15mg has 13.5mg, another example is there 10/325 generic Norco have 8.9 mgs of hydrocodone. I am rx'd Roxicodone 30mg and ONLY get the Actavis generics they are the only ones I have had that compare 100% to the brand name. But I never, ever fill any mecicaiton with Mallinckrodt generics, usually for most I get watson, expect roxies. If i am unsure what generics the phramcy carries, I call and ask..hell i have driven 20 miles out odf way not to get mallies...
     

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    In my experience, Roxis are awesome. I have done a few different brands of oxycodone and for some reason some do seem better than others. I have only done Roxys twice, but both times were some of the best floats I've had (40 mg both times). The only time I've had an unpleasant experience on oxycodone is from eating it, and that time I have no idea what brand it was.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by oathrocks
    I actually posted this in reply to anouther question on roxicodone...

    Generics can have a percentage less of the active ingredient then the brand name medication; I am not sure the exact percentage. This is why "some" generics are stronger then others. I know for a fact that Mallinckrodt have less then 30mg in each tablet, there package insert states they have 27mg in each 30mg pill, there 15mg has 13.5mg, another example is there 10/325 generic Norco have 8.9 mgs of hydrocodone. I am rx'd Roxicodone 30mg and ONLY get the Actavis generics they are the only ones I have had that compare 100% to the brand name. But I never, ever fill any mecicaiton with Mallinckrodt generics, usually for most I get watson, expect roxies. If i am unsure what generics the phramcy carries, I call and ask..hell i have driven 20 miles out odf way not to get mallies...
    THANK YOU, finally someone that can have some proof for me. I've heard something like it could be 20% give or take.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by TokinDerrick
    THANK YOU, finally someone that can have some proof for me. I've heard something like it could be 20% give or take.
    I went to the doc recently to get refills for my birth control and my Doc informed me they come in generic now. I asked if they were just as good and my doc said that generics only have to be 80% as good as the brand name. Obviousley I decided to stay with my name brand BC but it could suport your theory that generic are less effect/strong then the name brand. I mean 80% is sad I thought it had to be 100% the same.
     

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    anything mallinkrodt is bad news IMO especially pain meds...avoid them at all costs.

    i had trouble with mallie brand oxy-IR capsules not being as good as the ethex or other brand i usually received.

    avoid mallinkrodt.

    ask ur pharmacy to stock a different brand or go to a different pharmacy, of course, call first.
     

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    Did you get the Roxicodone 30's (blue) by Amide pharmaceuticals????
     

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    It Has a score in the middle of the pill and on the top of the score there is an 'A' and on the bottom of the score it says '215'
     

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    AND MAKE SURE YOU DONT LEAVE THE BOTTLE OF PILLS IN YOUR CAR DURING A HOT DAY OR SOMETHING...... Because that can COMPLETELY fuck up the potency.
     

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    amide is now actavis.same pill diff company and they are in my opinion the best generic roxies out there,the ones with the m on them suck ass for sure
     

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    well ur car would have to get really hot cause i saw the avg temp data for cars on a hot day in the sun on a mythbusters experiment and the inside temp wouldnt really be hot enough to degrade still it would be plain dumb to do otherwise.

    it can only help to NOT leave it in unregulated environments and theres no real reason to do otherwise.

    however i dont see the relavance of this to the post.
    mallinkrapts suck i dont care what people tell me about generic equivalance, etc, etc....in GENERAL i find generics to be every bit as good and dont usually buy people saying otherwise but for some reason mallie opiate products are severely lacking in quality or potency probally both.

    i know this because of years of lortab abuse...it took 3 mallinkrodt 7.5 tabs to equal 2 watson or qualitest brands...so it took 22.5mg of hydrocodone from mallinkrodt to equal just 15mg of watson/qualitest/etc.

    also this was the case as i mentioned before with oxy-IRs...i was getting 5mg IR pills usually ethex brand or one other that i cannot name. at the time my monster tolerance was quite low(atleast for me lol), around 100-120mg compared to the 300-500mg i was taking for months DAILY at the peak of my habit. anyways as i said with the "good" generic oxy-IR 5mg i would need about 20-24 pills for a good buzz(so again, 100-120mg)with the usual routine of empty stomach no food for 5 hours and a good tall glass of water to wash them down.
    one month i got them filled and received mallinkrodts(sp)....if anything my tolerance had lowerd because the month before i finished my script in a week's time and had to wait a month to see the doc for a new one. so i went even longer with no opiates on an already "low' tolerance for my body and to my suprise, i took 20 pills and didnt get an itch or sedation! the month before i took 100mg the day i filled my script, same situation no opiates for atleast 2.5 weeks and i was itching my balls off and was really high.
    so i waited two days and tried 28 pills and got basically the same results except some minor sedation that time.

    i mean i wouldnt care if i had to take a few extra pills or something, but from those two experiences, i felt i would have needed somewhere near 200mg of the mallinkrodt pills to achieve a high comparable to 80-130mg of the oxy from the ethex and the roxane labs the ones with 54 582 imprints. that is not even close to being similar in potency and is outrageous IMO.

    as i said before, same thing or worst with the hydro products.
    try for urself. take the SAME mg you need to get high from the mallinkrodt line of lortabs/vicodins/etc(the ones with M3** imprints usually M357, M360, etc) then try the next day so that ur tolerance cannot have lowerd significantly and see the difference it is like night and day. actually you need to be careful doing this! my ex-gf would pop tabs maybe once every couple months and would need THREE mallie 7.5/500s to get high so 22.5mg....we got watsons one month and she got very sick/itchy/neasaus from the same amount. the next weekend she tried again another month with just 15mg of qualitest/vintage brand lortabs and she thought they were lortab 10s because it was so strong. again she said stronger than 22.5 of mallies...she did not use with any consistency and never achieved a tolerance of any sort.

    i mean i even have suspicions at times that pharmacies are buying phoney malinkrodts or something...that or their are bootleg tabs with the M357 imprint on the black market kinda like with xanax bars "from mexico" that people can get by the 10s of thousands....makes u wonder.
    however i hear it would be really hard for someone to pull that and have them make their ways to legit/reputable chain pharmacies.

    FYI, eckerds from what i rememberd, always carried watsons which i found to be great in quality/potency atleast compared to those shit-pills made by Mallinckrodt
     

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    are the ones with the "M" on them really that bad?? i just got some of those and cant tell the difference too too much
     

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    Generics only have to be with +/- 80 potency of the brand. Given Mallies are the very cheapest generic opiates a pharmacy can order where do you think they fall on the +/- scale from the brand?
    They are cheap to the pharmacy for a very good reason. you get what you pay for
     

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    I was accidentally handed 3 of those generic 30's instead of 3 xanax today ... and if it wasn't for the itchy face I would not have been able to tell. In fact it wasn't until he told me hours later that I took them that I knew for sure. Granted I used to have a large opiate habit in the past, but that was about at least a year ago ... I never thought I would see the day when 90 mg of oxy did not get me high.
     

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