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    Quote Originally Posted by xxkcxx View Post
    It's my MO to ALWAYS get a number, even if I do cop on the street. Usually they offer it up first, but I think it's a lot safer to call ahead, and like you said, if you buy from them enough they treat you right and will meet up with you somewhere so you don't gotta go into the neighborhood. I had a guy who would meet me right off my exit and was speedy too. Never had to wait more than 5-10 minutes except on a few really lame occasions (like when he was drunk and fell asleep after he said he'd be right there...never did get dope that night either cause it was like midnight or later).
    yeah they love to give out numbers with their phony name/nickname. my phone's contacts is littered with nicknames and numbers from when i used to score on the street.

    ouch at not being able to score. it only happened once when my guy was out of town. he left me a message with a number to call, but the message was cut off right as he was about to say the final numbers. it was too late to cop anywhere else too. i actually went to rehab the next morning.
     

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    Never heard of blows over in wriggleyville haha thats what up, im moving into my apartment in the morning! and it's in wriggleyville
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxkcxx View Post
    Every tip I've had has had a blue light put on its corner at some point, if it didn't already have one.

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    thats because all the dealers are moving toward the north pole because of the cameras. the majority are gunshot cameras im pretty sure. but some are @ dope-spots most likely.
     

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    fuck out west...best is the dubs out in chinatown...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedamian View Post
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    yeah, i just started to cop on the street for stuff. are there like, any suggestions and stuff for a first timer?

    In the wrigleyville area i met some guys....they came up to me....later i got one of their phone numbers and some ridiculous name- but he gave me his myspace screenname (which doesn't exist) ....should i just call him when i need something else? like, how does that conversation...work?
     

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    yeah, call him.

    Ask him to meet up with you. The ridiculous name is part of the persona. They (almost) all have ridiculous names. The first time, only ask for one or two to make sure he is legit. Even better, if he is willing, ask him to give you a sample first. Tell him if it is good you'll pay for that one plus however many more.

    Convo should go like this:

    Yo, XXXX, this is XXXX, I met you the other day in the neighborhood. Would you be able to meet up in a little while?

    And then he'll take it from there.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal Antlers View Post
    yeah, i just started to cop on the street for stuff. are there like, any suggestions and stuff for a first timer?

    In the wrigleyville area i met some guys....they came up to me....later i got one of their phone numbers and some ridiculous name- but he gave me his myspace screenname (which doesn't exist) ....should i just call him when i need something else? like, how does that conversation...work?
    YO... WTF... I live in wrigleyville.... where the fuck does everybody keep seeing dope dealers??!?!?!
     

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    ^ I have never heard or seen dealers of any kind workin corners near wrigley.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wArEhOuSePuNk View Post
    Those boxes are gun-shot cameras. dont worry about those unless you plan on shooting at somebody.
    Oh really? Read this then.

    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.05/crime.html


    I've been looking to score on the WS but I've been out of the game for 3 years or so. The last time I went down was with an old friend who had some dudes number. I took a drive down to the Chicago Ave area the other night but it was like a ghost town and those fucking cameras were on every other block. It's unreal to see that area so empty. I mean there were people but not like it used to be.

    Also I've never heard dope called anything but blows and have never seen anyone serving down in Wrigleyville.
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    Hey guys check out this web page provided by none other than the government. It might be outdated, but there's even a map that shows spots and areas, I think they purposefully reduced the resolution of the picture to make the text of street corners unreadable, if you know your streets and stare closely enough you might be able to make out the text. It's outdated but honestly I think most of the general areas are still functioning.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs/652/heroin.htm

    Also, fuck the west side and fuck cicero, it really sucks to be around all those cops and shit, if you got hookups you can go to places like logan square and even border-line western suburbs running up harlem ave. like forrest park. Don't expect street dealers out here, but it sure helps a lot when the transaction is more alike to a pot deal.

    If you have the amount of cash and a good hookup to be able to buy a gram of raw, let me tell you there is no denying that its some really really high potency shit. You can even become a dealer yourself this way and make a lot of bank by cutting the raw shit yourself and packaging, but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone and I sure as hell would NEVER do something like that.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Straight Dope View Post
    Hey guys check out this web page provided by none other than the government. It might be outdated, but there's even a map that shows spots and areas, I think they purposefully reduced the resolution of the picture to make the text of street corners unreadable, if you know your streets and stare closely enough you might be able to make out the text. It's outdated but honestly I think most of the general areas are still functioning.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs/652/heroin.htm

    Also, fuck the west side and fuck cicero, it really sucks to be around all those cops and shit, if you got hookups you can go to places like logan square and even border-line western suburbs running up harlem ave. like forrest park. Don't expect street dealers out here, but it sure helps a lot when the transaction is more alike to a pot deal.

    If you have the amount of cash and a good hookup to be able to buy a gram of raw, let me tell you there is no denying that its some really really high potency shit. You can even become a dealer yourself this way and make a lot of bank by cutting the raw shit yourself and packaging, but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone and I sure as hell would NEVER do something like that.
    That document is pretty old. I used to buy "raw" once I knew the spot or owner of the spot for a while. The reason I say "raw" is because even though it's one chunk and the quality is good it's still not really raw. Anyways it's better than what you would usually get on the street.

    Yeah Cicero is a total hotspot and is probably where the majority of us started out. The dope is weak and the cops are everywhere just looking to pounce.

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    Mission accomplished. I just went to one of my old spots and sure enough there were some homies out there today where yesterday it was empty. It was rather frustrating (like I said before it's been roughly three years since I was down there other than yesterday where I left empty handed) because every one of my old spots now has a camera on the corner that the CPD says can zoom to down around three blocks away. I swear I'm not even exaggerating. There must be 10 cameras on Chicago Avenue from Cicero to California. Plus off of Roosevelt and off of Homan there are some too. Unreal.
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    I don't think the cameras or "cop boxes" as I like to call them are much more than a scare tactic. Seriously there are sooo many of them nowadays who the hell is gonna be watching all of them around the clock? In recent years they've been putting them in nicer neighborhoods too. Even if they see you, what the hell do they got to prove? That you were giving a "hand-shake" to your african-american friend? And yes I have done transactions in the past RIGHT underneath a cop box and jack shit happened. I even raised concern to the dealer and he was like "don't worry they just for shootings".

    Another thing is most of the times I've gone to my dealer I'll pick him up in my car and cruise around a bit around the block before I drop him off, this way it looks like I'm only picking up a friend.

    I guess raw varies, but the raw I had I would definitely be scared to do it with no tolerance as even with tolerance the shit pretty much raped my ass. It really is possible for shit to be too strong where it makes you feel kinda uncomfortable.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Straight Dope View Post
    I don't think the cameras or "cop boxes" as I like to call them are much more than a scare tactic. Seriously there are sooo many of them nowadays who the hell is gonna be watching all of them around the clock? In recent years they've been putting them in nicer neighborhoods too. Even if they see you, what the hell do they got to prove? That you were giving a "hand-shake" to your african-american friend? And yes I have done transactions in the past RIGHT underneath a cop box and jack shit happened. I even raised concern to the dealer and he was like "don't worry they just for shootings".

    Another thing is most of the times I've gone to my dealer I'll pick him up in my car and cruise around a bit around the block before I drop him off, this way it looks like I'm only picking up a friend.

    I guess raw varies, but the raw I had I would definitely be scared to do it with no tolerance as even with tolerance the shit pretty much raped my ass. It really is possible for shit to be too strong where it makes you feel kinda uncomfortable.
    The police can sit and tap into those cameras from their squad cars. I got popped once off of Homan and was forced to tag along in the back while they tried to pick up some more people. In the police car they use their laptop to watch and can switch around to different cameras and zoom in very far. It's no joke. It's just the chance you take that you will be seen doing something at that moment they're watching.

    I'm not trying to scare anyone or say that they watch all the time I'm just telling you that they're not just there for looks.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhuckEverything View Post
    The police can sit and tap into those cameras from their squad cars. I got popped once off of Homan and was forced to tag along in the back while they tried to pick up some more people. In the police car they use their laptop to watch and can switch around to different cameras and zoom in very far. It's no joke. It's just the chance you take that you will be seen doing something at that moment they're watching.

    I'm not trying to scare anyone or say that they watch all the time I'm just telling you that they're not just there for looks.
    No shit...

    What happened to you when you got popped as far as legal issues go?

    I've been changing my view on these cameras after reading some articles.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Straight Dope View Post
    No shit...

    What happened to you when you got popped as far as legal issues go?

    I've been changing my view on these cameras after reading some articles.
    I was picked up at a spot before I had a chance to buy and had an old warrant. It was for a probation violation that was already taken care of. It was basically an error that never cleared the computer for whatever reason. They told me if we catch some bigger fish (yes they actually used the term bigger fish) before our shift is up in an hour or so then you can go while the others take your place in the back of the car. Then they asked me if I knew where some guns were or someone selling large quantity's of dope. I only went out there to shop around for a few bags of dope so I didn't know anything like that. Besides the warrant was nothing big and I was out in a few days. I wasn't going to give up some spots because I had to go to county for a night or two, you know? Anyways they would pass a corner store looking for white people inside or your prototypical drug dealers hanging out. They were steady profiling people based on their color, how they dressed or looked, surprise surprise. Then they would drive down a few blocks, turn a corner and tap into the closest camera to watch. The whole time I remember thinking wow what a fucking waste of resources. Just throwing money away.

    This was about 3-4 years ago and the first time I actually saw how the camera system worked. I imagine at that time there were only a few select units or cars with the capability to use the cameras from their squad car with the rest being from the station. At that time there were only about 25 cameras in existence around the entire west side (most on Chicago ave) where today there must be 100 or so from what I saw the other day.

    Also the car I was in was a marked unit working with an unmarked unit to pick people up. It sucked but actually those cops were some of the coolest as far as not punching you, slapping you or berating you for using dope. They actually tried to get me help if I wanted it and were more interested in why I felt the need to use dope rather than telling me to shut the fuck up before they bash my face in. They were down with the fact that what they were doing was more or less pointless. They probably picked up the same people day in and day out.

    Those cameras do have sound capability from what I've read. They can pick up gun shots and send out a unit. Supposedly they can also tell the difference between a firecracker and a .22 shot.

    All in all we need a system where junkies can go to a clinic and shoot up a few times a day and then go back to work or go home. It would do wonders in getting rid of Heroin dealers in the ghetto and would give Crook County Jail some relief. Kind of like what they're doing in Switzerland.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...Health_4640667
     

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    I don't think you're allowed to post spots or connects here, for obvious reasons. Sorry.
     

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    tar is lookin bad right now... ugh, i hate these times. powder just isnt the same. but shit i have to do what i have to do, at least i have a semi safe spot.
     

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    bags with a naked lady and the words Heavy D. are decent, same stuff as the bags with #1 stamped on it. I had to do 4 to get good though, and i usually only need about 2-3. Bags with dollar signs that are larger than normal are pretty good, but same deal i had to do 4. I picked up a few bags from some random side street close to the 290 highway near cicero that were awesome, but that was lucky, foil packs with blue or red tape, and they were $20 a piece. Only took one $20 to get me feeling good... Oh and most of the spots on that link a few posts up are probably still good, but you'd have to be an idiot to take that risk unless you live around that area, which im imagining 99% of people from the chicago area dont on this board.
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    My guy with the green aliens just got really good again.
     

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    Heavy D is some good stuff, if it takes you 4 of them to get high then I am assuming you are physically dependent on it since I was there not too long ago. Honestly though now that I think about it I don't even think the artwork on the bag matters that much since anyone can buy those bags at liquor stores/head shops. I remember my guy would consistently sell me heavy D bags and then one day he straight up told me that his guy sold him some undissolvable shit, and this was on a day he was actually fronting me bags cause he's cool like that and helps me out if I'm down on my luck. Basically I drove him down to the block and he bought me 2 good old fashioned foils out of the money in his own wallet, and they were awesome. What a nice guy, he'd even make jokes asking me what my dad would think if he ever saw me down in the hood like that, sometimes even kinda seriously he'd be like "what if your dad knew you were shooting heroin" probably the only time I ever heard a dealer say "heroin" instead of blows. As crazy as it sounds this guy one time even gave me the talk about how I'm white and have all these opportunities and that if I keep doing the shit I do and keep hanging out with the other people who are his customers that I'm gonna end up either dead or in jail. He'd go on to say that he'd like to stop dealing the shit one day and just be able to be a pot dealer, and if I was to ever kick my habit I'd be free to still give him a call to smoke blunts with him.

    Speaking of which has anyone here ever bought weed from a dope dude or from the vicinity of the ghetto? I actually bought 20 bucks worth one time from a different guy than the one I just mentioned, and the weed was surprisingly pretty good, but it was in like a little dime bag and definitely less than a gram. The blunts that I've smoked with the guy I mentioned in the last paragraph also happened to be of good quality.

    Oh yeah, and if you're black and actually from the area, you will most definitely be sold your drugs at a cheaper price. How else do you think all the homeless bums get to maintain habits?

    The most recent bags I've seen are these kinda larger bags that have golden skulls on top of a black background with a foil inside of it. These are arguably the coolest looking bags I've ever seen, but I was disappointed as it wasn't as good as the heavy D.
     

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    ^ That dealer...sounds AWESOME.

    And I was just going to say how I don't think it matters what kinda bag the are in like it does in Jersey/NY/etc. My guy has been selling my green aliens for awhile, but every so often will have something else, but I think it is just cause he runs out, not cause he's got different shit.

    I may be wrong, but don't these guys (and I mean the guys running the show that you call ahead of time, not their boys on the street) pretty much cut and bag the dope themselves?


    Also, yeah, I got weed from a dealer once--sold it as a dime bag, but it wasn't really. It was good quality though. Nothing like the dank in the suburbs, but pretty good for hood dro.

    I did once go down cold and no guys were out so I just drove around and asked a guy if he was hustling and he said yeah and tried to sell me $5 bags of weed. He pointed me up the street when I told him thats not really what I was looking for.
     

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    I had the Heavy D bags recently. It was about a month ago. The bags had a lady laying down and heavy D writting on them. The logo and words were both in purple. Most recently had similar bags but with red hearts (wonder if dealers are using these because of valentines day lol). From all the blows from the west chi seem to be pretty much the same stuff. I dont belive the bag matters i think it just gangs use different bags but I could be wrong. Bags are always usually the same weight and have a staple on the top. Do you guys get bags with staples in the top where the ziplock part is? From experience with west chi bags I can usually tell the quality when the powder makes smoke or sticks to the bag. Like when you hit up a whole line bag (im a snorter and never tried iv) and you exhale smoke comes out. I have always wonder why it does that or if its because the cut inside which I heard is usally sleepanol or dormin. Every foil from the southside had usually been some pretty bunk shit although i have heard there is some fire ass h on the south side.

    Chi dope is up and down one week you will get some fire and next week the bags will be horrible. Same bags just weaker dope.
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    I used to go down to the west side to cop. Until this summer, just picked up, was in the turn lane to get on <specific location removed>, and the cherries go on behind me. Got busted with 40 bags, they must have weighed it with the foil cause they said it was a half ounce. Now I got 2 years of probation. Been clean since I got busted tho, which is good. Here's a tip to anyone looking to cop dope, don't go to the westside if your white, you will be profiled. Get a number and have them meet you further out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBomb View Post
    Do you guys get bags with staples in the top where the ziplock part is?
    Yes. Always.

    I have never gotten taped bags, but I have heard of people getting them.
     

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