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    ^Thanks! Great info.
     

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    bump - anybody else have anything to say about this stuff? I've been taking it, but for the price difference of this and piracetam, I can't see that many more beneficial effects.
     

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    ^^^ Really? what does have you tried?

    I'm currently on a break from them, I've had insomnia as of late so I stop supplements like these until my sleep is back to normal.

    After about 3 months of use I've found:


    1) Aniracetam is wayyy too much like speed for me. I'm on a mental speed-rollercoaster... updownupdown.. foggy.. then updown foggy etc etc.

    2) Oxiracetam - That stuff is the shit! Woo hoo. 800mg in the morning and I"m PLOWING through my work. I found this really helps me.

    On the supplement note about taking choline with these, I've found that if I take choline bitartrate as a supplments (as people say we're supposed to with this stuff) I get muscle stiffness and am too hyper to settle down at night. I guess I already have enough choline in my brain normally

    I'd say if piracetam does what you need it to do, then there is no sense changing.

    BUT! The one major difference you should find is that with oxiracetam you can feel the effects within HOURS instead of DAYS with piracetem... which is a MAJOR benefit because I like being "on" for days I need to mentally focus, then I can be "off" and take a break from them to let my brain rest when needed.
     

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    So whats the better deal: 700 grams of piracetam for $20 or 30 grams of aniracetam for $11?

    My guess is piracetam...
     

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    Piracetam is cheap, and a solid buy... try the piracetam, and if you find that works, try the aniracetam
     

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    I just got some oxiracetam / choline. Took 1.5g oxi + 1g of choline citrate.

    Never used nootropics before.

    Started feeling something within an hour, colors seemed brighter, sense of smell heightened, head was clearer.

    I started off the day really tired, groggy. I took the oxi / choline halfway through the day at about 4pm, and really noticed its effects by 6pm. I was much more alert, but not speedy. I was typing faster, troubleshooting quicker (was at work at the time, helpdesk) and overall I feel more focussed.

    Its now 9:30 and I still feel great. I was surprised by the effects, I did not think one dosage would be so noticeable. Definitely will be adding this to my regular regimen.
     

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    aniracetam seems to give me brain fog. i would like to use piracetam, oxiracetam and aniracetam but aniracetam just seems to give me brain fog. what is a good dose for aniracetam. when using 2-4g of piracetam and 1-2g of oxiracetam.
     

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    I've tried 200mg 400mg up to 1g of aniracetam. All of those doses didn't give me the desired effects, just as you said - mostly negative effects like "brain fog".

    Oxiracetam is the better choice IMHO.
     

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    thanks for the tip this is interesting. Ive been using gotu kola and gingko biloba to help my memory and aid brain function but these arent like classic nootropics and ive been impressed with the result. im definately willing to try some stronger nootropics out.
     

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    ^ Then (carefully) research into seleginine. It's an MAOI, but other than that it has some really good clinically studied benefits.

    There are lots of links to it on BL.
     

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    Question:

    For those who use nootropics/nutruitional supplements/sports nutrition:

    What's your daily stack and how much does it cost you per day? Is paying for all these -cetams and choline and gingko and green tea oil pills really worth the price you pay?

    I would very much like to try my hand with nootropics especially? But I'm not sure if I can afford it. I also want to start taking carbo powder, creatine, protein powder, nitric acid, and multivitamins.

    Basically I want to put my body in a state of peak performance. But I don't think I'll be able to dedicate a whole paycheck every month to my body. I need to have money for recreation!! And for buying a motorcycle... yes a motorcycle.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoLiDo
    Question:

    For those who use nootropics/nutruitional supplements/sports nutrition:

    What's your daily stack and how much does it cost you per day? Is paying for all these -cetams and choline and gingko and green tea oil pills really worth the price you pay?

    I would very much like to try my hand with nootropics especially? But I'm not sure if I can afford it. I also want to start taking carbo powder, creatine, protein powder, nitric acid, and multivitamins.

    Basically I want to put my body in a state of peak performance. But I don't think I'll be able to dedicate a whole paycheck every month to my body. I need to have money for recreation!! And for buying a motorcycle... yes a motorcycle.
    I would say that proper diet and exercise have more to do with peak performance than any nootropic.

    Once you have your diet and exercise worked out well, then I'd say that nootropics can be worth the money. I believe they are more important as we get older... right now I feel that when I take nootropics, such as oxiracetam, I am "over revving" myself.. I think fast normally, and nootropics push me too fast.

    I think a case can be made for using nootropics as a preventative measure. But the most effective nootropics, such as seleginine, also have alot of contraindictions to be wary of.

    It's a balancing act. Be sure to research alot before you start, as you are doing here.

    Begin with the basics:
    1) Ensure you get proper nutrition. Research: saturated vs. polyunsaturated fats.
    2) If you are not eating well, then be sure to take a good quality multivitamin.
    3) Then get into the more "general" nootropics, such as anti-oxidants (alpha-lipoic acid etc). These I would classify whatever is in your "daily regimen".
    4) Research specifically what you are hoping to achieve: Better quality thought? Emotional stability? Alertness? Concentration?
    5) If you are serious about taking a bunch of nootropics daily, then expect to pay alot of money unless you buy bulk.. which will save you a bunch of money - especially if you just buy the powders and weigh them out into gelatin capsules. (easier than you think).
    5) Read up about user experiences on each drug (and they are drugs, have no doubt about it). BL is especially good to research on since the users here are very experienced about drug use in general and won't give bullshit reports. We here all know what a REAL high is like. I find that on other "nootropics" websites people just go overboard about how great XXX drug is etcetc.

    I've tried a number of "nootropics". Some that I startec to take such as piracetam, aniracetam, oxiracetam, vipocetine, choline bicarbonate - I no longer take due to (what I perceive to be) negative effects.
    Examples... choline gave me jaw clenching and muscle tension... vipocetine gave me a lightheaded feeling, aniracetam was too speedy...

    Just like our beloved recreational drugs, nootropics drugs can also affect each person differently.

    Also: Be sure to research the drug on proper sources such as www.pubmed.com. If it's a worthwhile nootropic it will have at least ONE clinical study on it at pubmed.com.

    Hope that helps.
     

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    ^^ now tell me something I don't know.

    THe question in my post was focused on the price and the value of a nootropic regiment. How much per day do you pay for your nootropics. I would probaplly be buying all my shits in bulk and then measuring and capsuling my bi-daily alotments.
     

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    Hey, just wondering how its going?
     

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    i think aniracetam sucks tends to cause memory fog and is very dose dependant
     

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    I've personally found that with the 'racetams, lower dosages may be just as effective as higher dosages with less of the annoying side effects such as headache, jaw clenching, racing thoughts, memory fog, etc.

    They may be non-toxic, but too much of a good thing is still gonna fuck you up. After 3 months of daily piracetam, choline citrate, and ALCAR+PLCAR administration I was quite ready for a break. 1-2 weeks off is plenty and now I use them when I'm looking for that killer boost so I can plow through 8 hours at work with no problem and make everyone else look bad.
     

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    choline citrate that stuff smells soo bad!
    what did you notice from 3 months of taking piracetam?
     

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    Ok, reading of all these stacks and combo's sounds like its alot of stuff to be popping - and alot of money being spent on it. How much are you guys spending per month on these things?

    Also, I'm curious on trying these also. The primary reason is for improved focus / concentration while studying. I find that my mind wanders too often - some times it feels like every other word I read a train of unrelated thoughts flood my head. So, being able to asorb myself in studying for a few hours with a clear head would be nice.

    I'm getting my diet and workout into shape - already starting to eat healthier, and also going to start taking multi-vits to fill in the gaps (I dont eat enough veg, the texture of alot of them make me gag), and working out 3-4x a week (have already managed to lose about 10 pounds) -- all of which I have noticed being a bit of a help.

    But, would a good start be

    ani + choline -- just to get my feet wet and see how they work for me? also, how many times a day should I be taking them?
     

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    *shrug* the only drugs I've used that has noticably improved studying ability, and exam marks are: methylphenidate (ritalin), and seleginine (of course not taking them as a combo).

    Supplements that I've found help with concentration/focus in general are: fish oil (DHA,EPA), and folic acid.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisforliving
    *shrug* the only drugs I've used that has noticably improved studying ability, and exam marks are: methylphenidate (ritalin), and seleginine (of course not taking them as a combo).

    Supplements that I've found help with concentration/focus in general are: fish oil (DHA,EPA), and folic acid.

    Boy, that was a rollercoaster thread. Had me all excited about discovering new things to aid my concentration and energy levels etc.

    I was just about to sign up but then... this?

    Are you saying it's not worth the bother?

    To a complete newb like me. I take a multivit, thats it. Would you suggest it is worth trying out the 'citams?

    I have serious energy/motivation probs at the moment. I am on provigil at the mo and that is not helping.
     

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    ^ Well, the problem I found with the "nootropics" that DID have a noticeable effect, was that they also had noticeable side-effects. Vipocetine (sp) seemed to work, but made me lightheaded... the 'racetams work, but over time seem to create more "brain fog" and less functional states of mind.

    ... but... if I didn't have access to ritalin, maybe I would use oxiracetam occasionally.. I think I just prefer stimulants

    I think that, as with all the recreational drugs, the effect on YOU may be different from my experience. Most are worth a try. The "anti-aging" nootropics I believe are quite valuable (such as choline, APC antioxidants etc..), especially if you diet is not so great.

    Just don't expect an amphetamine rush or to become a genius after downing 2grams of aniracetam/oxiracetam.

    also, one definate bonus (and the reason I keep oxiracetam in my home pharmacy) is that it REALLY helps me roll on MDMA or other psych's.
     

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    I don't know if this has been mentionned, but

    1- Piracetam and Oxiracetam are WATER soluble, and should be taken between meals. It tends to take time (a few days, sometimes a week for some) to kick in for real, as they have to build up in the brain. For some people like me though, I can get an effect the first day in.
    2- Aniracetam is FAT soluble, should be taken between meals too, but with some fat (a bit of olive oil) for better absorption
    3- 90% of people who get headaches from racetams simply do not take enough choline, or their body don't absorb it well.

    Taking a b50 (or half one) will increase choline absorption, and don't forget that choline citrate is not such a good form of choline, Alpha-GPC is way better, even if expensive.

    If you get tension in the neck etc, you are probably taking too much choline for your body, and thus creating unvolontary muscle contractions.

    As for Deprenyl, don't be too concenred about its MAOI effects, as they are mainly for the MAO-B (dopamine). MAO-A reuptake inhibition happens at high doses, 10-15mg+ a day for a long time, while most people should stick to 1-2mg a day. 10mg can create hypertension and other bad effects by itself for most people anyway, so just don't go in that territory.
     

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    ^

    Good advice. It's funny you mention the muscle tension proble- it was the main reason I stopped oxiracetam. Taking choline made it much worse and a much more neck stiffness.
     

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    I did a long search on the net and found two that I am interested in and that are available to me.

    Deprenyl (Selegiline, Jumex) 50x5mg. Approx-$29

    Trivastal sustained release (Piribedil) 10x50mg. Approx-$19

    I have heard all good things about Deprenyl. One question - can it cause sleep disturbances. I am a light sleeper.

    Any info on Trivastal would be appreciated. Also any other specific substances you have tried that can improve memory, function and mood/wellbeing without side effects - I would be very interested in hearing them.

    Thanks.
     

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    I did a long search on the net and found two that I am interested in and that are available to me.

    Deprenyl (Selegiline, Jumex) 50x5mg. Approx-$29

    Trivastal sustained release (Piribedil) 10x50mg. Approx-$19

    I have heard good things about Deprenyl - also a few negative but not so bad. Couple of answers I couldnt find are - how long does it take to start working? (yeah, I know) and can it cause sleep disturbances. I am a light sleeper.

    Any info on Trivastal experiences would be appreciated. Also any other specific substances you have tried that can improve memory, function and mood/wellbeing without side effects - I would be very interested in hearing them.

    Also, when you read into these things they are actually doing some quite complex changes to the brain. I can't help being a bit concerned about this? Why should I not be?
     

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