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HobbyIsBowling said:
I don't play on party poker. I have played both sites, I sat down at a Pokerstars table and annihlated people, I also watched too many big hands get played.
A person should see an average of one big hand every 20, I was watching people play, myself included big hands every other hand. I'm not talking chase hands, I got dealt pocket jacks or higher 9 straight hands, as did a lot of other people, and what's funny is they were getting beat by the chaser hands like 9-10 offsuit.
I can't even stand party pokers interface, it's klunky and ugly. But that is just me.
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Also who so ever said that limit is where the money is at, was completely right, especially in online play. People are more apt to pay off your pocket aces, and the tells are a lot more prominant.
Limit poker takes a sign that says fish and put big flashing lights around it and tacks it onto the fishies forehead. It's quite nice really...
Limit poker takes a sign that says fish and put big flashing lights around it and tacks it onto the fishies forehead. It's quite nice really...
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Wey Hey.
Just finished 14th in a $100k tourney last night.
Bagged about $900, gutted i didn't make the final table but there was quite alot of pros and when it got down to the last few i was just getting out-played.
Not bad since i qualified through a $5 tourney and had no re-buys
Just finished 14th in a $100k tourney last night.
Bagged about $900, gutted i didn't make the final table but there was quite alot of pros and when it got down to the last few i was just getting out-played.
Not bad since i qualified through a $5 tourney and had no re-buys
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Two of my friends who graduated from NYU last year now play online poker for a living. They are doing alright for the time being, but it seems like a risky career move to say the least. I mean, yeah, they are good, but it isn't just free money. I feel like everyone is jumping on the bandwagon, and some people have to be burned eventually. Yet all I hear from online players is "win, win, win."
On a side note, they have won most of their money from Bodog. That site seems to attract rich fish by the boatload.
On a side note, they have won most of their money from Bodog. That site seems to attract rich fish by the boatload.
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Played in an online tournament tonight, $30,000 guaranteed prize pool, 1,700 players, first prize was $7,000. I finished 11th and won $300.00. When I was in the top 20 I was the tournament chip leader, and was on my way to the final table, but got sucked out when I went all-in in my last hand. I played really well up to that point, but that's poker, I'll get 'em next time.
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i was addicted to poker, and my parents want to move next to a frickin indian casino =/
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personally i think the best value online tourney has to be the $100k on a sunday (i play it through bet365 or royal vegas). First 130 places are paid with a minimum of $130.
Make it to the last 20 and you are between $750-850. Top prize is over $25k.
Its $50+5 to enter, but its quite easy to qualify via one of the satellite tourneys for $5 or even a sit-and-go table.
If you can generally make top 10% in most of the tourneys you play then its fairly easy to make some money, roughly about 1000 people start.
Like i said in an earlier post, once you get to the last 50 or so, the play becomes really really tight since the prizes jump up quite steeply after that.
Make it to the last 20 and you can almost guarantee there will be a few pros at your table Certainly helps you learn a few things
Make it to the last 20 and you are between $750-850. Top prize is over $25k.
Its $50+5 to enter, but its quite easy to qualify via one of the satellite tourneys for $5 or even a sit-and-go table.
If you can generally make top 10% in most of the tourneys you play then its fairly easy to make some money, roughly about 1000 people start.
Like i said in an earlier post, once you get to the last 50 or so, the play becomes really really tight since the prizes jump up quite steeply after that.
Make it to the last 20 and you can almost guarantee there will be a few pros at your table
Certainly helps you learn a few things I was doing okay at a small 88-person tournament on Saturday. Got down to the last two tables.
Lots of blinds in, the guy on my left goes all-in. I had slightly more chips than him. Everybody else folded.
I had ace/jack, and knew from basic observation he didn't have a pocket pair. Turned out he had ace/7.
A 7 on the river took me down.
As James Woods of the 180+ IQ said, "At it's very best, this game is 80% luck."
It's the 20% skill you hope serves you well in the long run.
Lots of blinds in, the guy on my left goes all-in. I had slightly more chips than him. Everybody else folded.
I had ace/jack, and knew from basic observation he didn't have a pocket pair. Turned out he had ace/7.
A 7 on the river took me down.
As James Woods of the 180+ IQ said, "At it's very best, this game is 80% luck."
It's the 20% skill you hope serves you well in the long run.
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Speaking of James Woods... I was in Vegas last weekend and stopped by the Rio to check out the WSOP. On my way out of the convention center heading back to the casino I see none other than James Woods, standing there talking to two guys about the hand he got knocked out on. Thought that was pretty cool, if I hadn't been a little stoned/tipsy I probably would've chatted him up.
Speaking of James Woods... I was in Vegas last weekend and stopped by the Rio to check out the WSOP. On my way out of the convention center heading back to the casino I see none other than James Woods, standing there talking to two guys about the hand he got knocked out on. Thought that was pretty cool, if I hadn't been a little stoned/tipsy I probably would've chatted him up.
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Tell a favorite poker story of a good win, bad beat.
One of my favorite stories is the night I blew out 2 people on their first hand of the night. It was a $40 buy-in, no limit texas hold em game, $2/$4 blinds. A few people came late and I was already up about $70 or so. They bought in, get their chips, and sat down.
I'm dealt
[Kh] + [8s]
I was in good position, so I called the big blind and raised it to $12. Of the 10 people playing, 1 other guy calls me, along with 2 of the new people who just sat down. At this time I'm thinking I should have bet larger because they have A/K, A/Q or a high pair in hand.
The flop comes
[Kd] + [10c] + [8h]
One of the guys bet $8, the new people called, and it was around to me. Now I had just flopped 2 pair, which isn't a bad thing with only 3 other players. I thought about just calling to string along their bets and bet large on the turn, but I knew they'd probably fold. But I wanted them to think maybe I had trips. So I just doubled the bet to $16. The original raiser folds, the two newcomers call again.
Fourth street comes
[Kd] + [10c] + [8h] + [3s]
Both of the 2 new guys check really quick, and I had a suspicion that maybe they were trying to slow play me and trap me into betting. That maybe one of them had pocket 8's or 10's (because they never would have called my initial bet with only a 8/10) and just made a set. So I reluctantly checked as well.
The river
[Kd] + [10c] + [8h] + [3s] + [8c]
I wasn't even watching the cards being dealt, because I wanted to see any reaction they gave off. One of the guys sort of squinted and did 2-3 fast blinks like he was not happy with the last card, the other guy half opened his mouth and was cleaning his teeth with his tongue as if he wasn't very confident in his hand.
They both check to me, so I stall intentionally just for effect thinking about every possible hand that could beat mine, thinking about their betting patterns, wondering if they intentionally looked pissed at the last card, etc. So I eye up both of their pots, and put them both all in.
One guy flips over Q/Q, the other actually had the nerve to grin and turns over A/10 thinking his 2 pairs are best. So I toss out my K, and say "Well I got the king" then I toss out the 8 and said "Oh yeah, I also have the 8." This whole hand actually took about 3 minutes to play out, but it was the fastest I'd ever seen anyone come -n- go like that. One hand, both people go out.
One of my favorite stories is the night I blew out 2 people on their first hand of the night. It was a $40 buy-in, no limit texas hold em game, $2/$4 blinds. A few people came late and I was already up about $70 or so. They bought in, get their chips, and sat down.
I'm dealt
[Kh] + [8s]
I was in good position, so I called the big blind and raised it to $12. Of the 10 people playing, 1 other guy calls me, along with 2 of the new people who just sat down. At this time I'm thinking I should have bet larger because they have A/K, A/Q or a high pair in hand.
The flop comes
[Kd] + [10c] + [8h]
One of the guys bet $8, the new people called, and it was around to me. Now I had just flopped 2 pair, which isn't a bad thing with only 3 other players. I thought about just calling to string along their bets and bet large on the turn, but I knew they'd probably fold. But I wanted them to think maybe I had trips. So I just doubled the bet to $16. The original raiser folds, the two newcomers call again.
Fourth street comes
[Kd] + [10c] + [8h] + [3s]
Both of the 2 new guys check really quick, and I had a suspicion that maybe they were trying to slow play me and trap me into betting. That maybe one of them had pocket 8's or 10's (because they never would have called my initial bet with only a 8/10) and just made a set. So I reluctantly checked as well.
The river
[Kd] + [10c] + [8h] + [3s] + [8c]
I wasn't even watching the cards being dealt, because I wanted to see any reaction they gave off. One of the guys sort of squinted and did 2-3 fast blinks like he was not happy with the last card, the other guy half opened his mouth and was cleaning his teeth with his tongue as if he wasn't very confident in his hand.
They both check to me, so I stall intentionally just for effect thinking about every possible hand that could beat mine, thinking about their betting patterns, wondering if they intentionally looked pissed at the last card, etc. So I eye up both of their pots, and put them both all in.
One guy flips over Q/Q, the other actually had the nerve to grin and turns over A/10 thinking his 2 pairs are best. So I toss out my K, and say "Well I got the king" then I toss out the 8 and said "Oh yeah, I also have the 8." This whole hand actually took about 3 minutes to play out, but it was the fastest I'd ever seen anyone come -n- go like that. One hand, both people go out.
Slow rolls are rude, buddy.
I think I may have already said this somewhere else in this thread, but my story occurred at a $3/$6 table. Two young guys showed up, and it was their very first time at a real table. Each only brought $50.
Very first hand, one of them hit. His eyes lit up like saucers. High pocket pair. He bet, but I was the only one who stayed in, with K/10 suited. I just called.
A/J/Q came up. When the ace hit the board, he was visibly affected. I figured him 3 aces - and I flopped broadway.
He was first to act, and I knew he was gonna bet all the way to the end, but I didn't want him to bust out every penny the very first hand he played, so I just called. Crap came up on the turn and the river - I had the nuts.
In the end he proudly puts his aces down. "3 aces" says the dealer. I put mine down, and said, "Broadway."
The guy either didn't know the term or wasn't listening - he waited for the dealer to push the stack towards him. When the dealer moved them to me, the look on his face was... well, blank at first. Then dismay, as his buddy pointed out what had happened.
Some people questioned my decision not to milk him dry, but I'm there for fun.
My bad beat happened online (of course). Aces full of kings beat by a royal flush.
I think I may have already said this somewhere else in this thread, but my story occurred at a $3/$6 table. Two young guys showed up, and it was their very first time at a real table. Each only brought $50.
Very first hand, one of them hit. His eyes lit up like saucers. High pocket pair. He bet, but I was the only one who stayed in, with K/10 suited. I just called.
A/J/Q came up. When the ace hit the board, he was visibly affected. I figured him 3 aces - and I flopped broadway.
He was first to act, and I knew he was gonna bet all the way to the end, but I didn't want him to bust out every penny the very first hand he played, so I just called. Crap came up on the turn and the river - I had the nuts.
In the end he proudly puts his aces down. "3 aces" says the dealer. I put mine down, and said, "Broadway."
The guy either didn't know the term or wasn't listening - he waited for the dealer to push the stack towards him. When the dealer moved them to me, the look on his face was... well, blank at first. Then dismay, as his buddy pointed out what had happened.
Some people questioned my decision not to milk him dry, but I'm there for fun.
My bad beat happened online (of course). Aces full of kings beat by a royal flush.
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Petersko said:
Are you saying just in general, or in the situation I was in?
I ask because I've heard other people say that, too. I don't agree with that, I think playing a strong hand very slow and conservative to squeeze your opponent(s) dry is a good strategy that without a doubt takes much patience and skill. It's an essential part of a card game in the same way bluffing is. Do you think leading other players to think your hand is better than it actually is is wrong?
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i don't think it's wrong at all. there are 1000000 ways to look at the game - one perspective is, if you want to succeed at poker (from a profit point of view) you have to master two things:
1. make losing hands win
2. make winning hands pay
a great hand is worthless if the net is $0.25. slow playing a monster hand is, in my opinion, a killer technique and when it pays off it pays off huge. the problem is the more chances you give other players to make a better hand, the more likely you'll lose.
i'm becoming seriously disillusioned with online play lately. unless you play higher stakes tables - which i can't really afford - it mostly seems to be full of people fishing for cards and making crazy bets in the hope of catching cards - which they seem to do routinely.
the other day i was playing in a $5 buy-in sit-n-go. i can't recall the exact $ amounts but i was dealt K8 suited with the big blind. about 6 people called the big blind to stay in so when it came round to me - pre flop - i raised about 3 times the big blind. all but one player folded. the flop came K8 and another card. so now ii have two pair - looking pretty good i thought. i made a pretty strong bet and the one guy left raised me. what the hell could he have? i came over the top and put him all in and he called. he had a J4 off suit - absolutely nothing against my KK88. i can not for the life of me imagine why he was betting the way he was.
the turn and river came: JJ
seriously, what are the chances?
i play at ultimatebet.com and i'm starting to get a seriously bad feeling about the way that site deals cards - it's just tough beat after tough beat after tough beat. i have not been keeping records but it seems to be in almost every single race situation, the underdog always wins. thee situaiton i described above seems to happen all the time.
alasdair
1. make losing hands win
2. make winning hands pay
a great hand is worthless if the net is $0.25. slow playing a monster hand is, in my opinion, a killer technique and when it pays off it pays off huge. the problem is the more chances you give other players to make a better hand, the more likely you'll lose.
i'm becoming seriously disillusioned with online play lately. unless you play higher stakes tables - which i can't really afford - it mostly seems to be full of people fishing for cards and making crazy bets in the hope of catching cards - which they seem to do routinely.
the other day i was playing in a $5 buy-in sit-n-go. i can't recall the exact $ amounts but i was dealt K8 suited with the big blind. about 6 people called the big blind to stay in so when it came round to me - pre flop - i raised about 3 times the big blind. all but one player folded. the flop came K8 and another card. so now ii have two pair - looking pretty good i thought. i made a pretty strong bet and the one guy left raised me. what the hell could he have? i came over the top and put him all in and he called. he had a J4 off suit - absolutely nothing against my KK88. i can not for the life of me imagine why he was betting the way he was.
the turn and river came: JJ
seriously, what are the chances?
i play at ultimatebet.com and i'm starting to get a seriously bad feeling about the way that site deals cards - it's just tough beat after tough beat after tough beat. i have not been keeping records but it seems to be in almost every single race situation, the underdog always wins. thee situaiton i described above seems to happen all the time.
alasdair