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Attached should be a zipped file with 5 files in it that contain the data on 5-MeO-DMT gathered from the recent survey project on largely unresearched compounds.
General information about the survey project on largely unresearched compounds.
This project consisted of posting 28 surveys for about 60 days at 6 different internet discussion boards. 25 of the surveys received at least one response in that time. There were a total of 701 responses to all of the surveys with 5-MeO-DPT receiving the fewest responses (2) and 2C-I receiving the most (123). 11 surveys received 25 or more responses and probably give a somewhat reliable overview of the compounds in question.
There are 3 different types of surveys. The Phenethylamines, the Tryptamines, and the DOB-DFLY survey. The phenethylamine and tryptamine surveys are almost identically with 2 exceptions; the tryptamine surveys have an additional item labeled x01 and a freeform response at the end. The DOB-DFLY survey has numerous additional sections etc. due to it being a later addition. Despite these differences, each subsection should allow for apples to apples comparisons. The only real difference in the data might be a slightly higher skip rate on section 5 with regard to the phenethylamines, though looking at the actual data the difference appears to be minimal if any.
What was looked at across all surveys was 1. What people thought of the compound overall, 2. What people thought about the general pleasurableness of the compound, 3. What people thought about the general stimulant/sedative tendencies of the compound, 4. What people reported in the way of ‘primary effects,’ 5. What people reported in the way of ‘side effects,’ and 6. The number of times people reported taking a given compound.
For items 1, 2, & 3 a ‘score’ can be worked out.
For the overall rating one can either calculate the % of persons that consider the compound ‘worthwhile’ by adding the number of persons reporting ‘B,’ ‘A,’ and ‘A+’ and dividing by the total number of persons answering that item; or one can calculate an ‘average rating’ by giving a score of 6 to every ‘A+,’ 5 to every ‘A,’ 4 to every ‘B,’ 3 to every ‘C,’ 2 to every ‘D,’ 1 to every ‘E,’ and 0 to every ‘F’ (the results then divided by the number of total respondents).
For the overall pleasure direction one simply assigns a weighted score to the responses according to the value to the left (i.e. +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3) and divides by the total number of responses. A net positive score indicates a compound that is reportedly more positive and a net negative score indicates a compound that is reportedly more negative. A score close to or at 0 indicates a compound that is not very particularly prone one way or another with regard to pleasurable experiences (it could have no discernable ‘push’ or it could be equally prone toward pleasurable or disconcerting experiences).
The overall energy direction is calculated much the same as the overall pleasure direction, with the difference being that the results will show the overall tendency of the compound toward stimulation or sedation. If the net score is positive it indicates a trend toward stimulation, if the net score is negative it indicates a trend toward sedation. If the score is close to or at 0 it indicates that a compound is not particularly prone toward one direction or the other (this could mean neither stimulation nor sedation or it could indicate that people are more or less equally prone to the experience of either).
Compound specific discussion.
5-MeO-DMT is a compound that is very intense and fairly short-acting when vaporized or insufflated. It has been a component of certain shaman’s brews and snuffs for centuries. While most respondents to this survey considered the compound to be worthwhile, in the freeform discussion they often commented on how the compound appears to be a very important though in no way causal compound. Words like ‘extreme,’ ‘intense,’ and ‘strong’ came up frequently. Spiritual or mystical language was also used in the discussion of this compound. This survey received almost 50 responses, so the data from it is probably fairly reliable.
Looking at the data here, 89.4% of respondents considered the material ‘worthwhile.’
The overall average pleasure score is +1.10 or roughly ‘Pleasant.’ While the compound clearly trended to the positive, the range of responses included every possible score.
The respondents generally reported that this is a noticeably stimulating compound with a stimulation score of +0.69 or in between ‘Neutral’ and ‘Slightly Stimulating.’ While there was a notable trend toward stimulation, the range of responses included every possible score.
The most commonly reported ‘primary effect’ of this compound was ‘Awe / Amazement’ with 85% of respondents noting it. Fully 42.5% of respondents reported ‘Extreme Open Eye Visuals’ and 47.5% reported ‘Extreme Closed Eye Visuals.’ Interestingly though, 5% reported ‘No Psychedelic Effects Noticed.’
The most commonly reported side-effect for this compound was ‘Anxiety &/or Feeling Very Nervous,’ with 39.5% of respondents reporting feeling that way. 26.3% of respondents checked the ‘No appreciable side effects what so ever’ item.
Like most other compounds surveyed, the most frequently reported number of uses was 2-5 times (30.8%), though there was a rather wider range of responses with 5-MeO-DMT than with most other compounds. People reported usage ranging from 1-100+ times.
There were the following freeform items:
“Visuals so intesne what I saw was a completly different world than what I was in.”
“Smoking the substance produced a sensation of suffocation even while breathing in.. a numbing of the lungs. The substance is too short acting to be very useful in my opinion; this is the reason for the low overall rating.”
“At the 3 to 12mg dose range it was pleasant, but not as nice as DMT or DPT. It had an effect similar to LSA(from MG seeds), but the effect had a strong stimulant side to it and the effects were compressed into about an hour of time. At the 25mg doseage it was unpleasant. Racing heart rate and pulse. Oh there was some nausea and a head ache at that level too.”
“wow”
“There was for me a week long hangover from the drug where I felt a bit dull, but it faded with time.”
“Positive - The feeling of being reborn is amazing. You appreciate life so much more after 5-meo-dmt use. It's sad that something very extreme has to happen for one to expericnce this, or just use some 5-meo-dmt. Negative - Not really recreationaly fun, chemical vapor is harsh on lungs.”
“Not a traditional psychedelic in any way. The first time I did it, I had maybe 5 people over at my house. By the time I had exhaled the vapor, my mind was reeling and I thought, "what have I gotten myself into, I wasn;t prepared for this." For the next few minutes, I couldn;t think at all, it felt like I was racing along at 100 miles an hour. The only words that came to me were fuck, shit, and oh my god. My friends later told me they were yelling at me. I recall that my eyes were open and there was a visual scene present, but it had nothing at all to do with my experience. I didn't hear anyone say anything to me. After the peak, I got up and told everyone they had to leave immediately. It took about another 15 minutes for me to calm down enough to call them and tell them I was alright. I just wasn;t really sure what had just happened to me. The other notable effect was that for about 30 minutes after the peak, I couldn't really feel my body. I was taking the stairs 3 at a time and it felt natural. Very very strange substance. It wasn't pleasent in any conventional way, but I said it was one of my favorites and I would do it again because nothing else will give you as extreme of an experience as that. I've never felt anything like that before in my life.”
“Both my most intensely beatiful and most intensely horrific moments of my life have occured after smoking this chemical. It is truly quite powerful.”
“far too intense to use as a general psychedelic. this one is held in higher regard among the others as a deep and powerful spiritual tool.”
“Best psychedelic, and if you had to choose one, Id pick this one as it is simply perfect.”
I B
General information about the survey project on largely unresearched compounds.
This project consisted of posting 28 surveys for about 60 days at 6 different internet discussion boards. 25 of the surveys received at least one response in that time. There were a total of 701 responses to all of the surveys with 5-MeO-DPT receiving the fewest responses (2) and 2C-I receiving the most (123). 11 surveys received 25 or more responses and probably give a somewhat reliable overview of the compounds in question.
There are 3 different types of surveys. The Phenethylamines, the Tryptamines, and the DOB-DFLY survey. The phenethylamine and tryptamine surveys are almost identically with 2 exceptions; the tryptamine surveys have an additional item labeled x01 and a freeform response at the end. The DOB-DFLY survey has numerous additional sections etc. due to it being a later addition. Despite these differences, each subsection should allow for apples to apples comparisons. The only real difference in the data might be a slightly higher skip rate on section 5 with regard to the phenethylamines, though looking at the actual data the difference appears to be minimal if any.
What was looked at across all surveys was 1. What people thought of the compound overall, 2. What people thought about the general pleasurableness of the compound, 3. What people thought about the general stimulant/sedative tendencies of the compound, 4. What people reported in the way of ‘primary effects,’ 5. What people reported in the way of ‘side effects,’ and 6. The number of times people reported taking a given compound.
For items 1, 2, & 3 a ‘score’ can be worked out.
For the overall rating one can either calculate the % of persons that consider the compound ‘worthwhile’ by adding the number of persons reporting ‘B,’ ‘A,’ and ‘A+’ and dividing by the total number of persons answering that item; or one can calculate an ‘average rating’ by giving a score of 6 to every ‘A+,’ 5 to every ‘A,’ 4 to every ‘B,’ 3 to every ‘C,’ 2 to every ‘D,’ 1 to every ‘E,’ and 0 to every ‘F’ (the results then divided by the number of total respondents).
For the overall pleasure direction one simply assigns a weighted score to the responses according to the value to the left (i.e. +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3) and divides by the total number of responses. A net positive score indicates a compound that is reportedly more positive and a net negative score indicates a compound that is reportedly more negative. A score close to or at 0 indicates a compound that is not very particularly prone one way or another with regard to pleasurable experiences (it could have no discernable ‘push’ or it could be equally prone toward pleasurable or disconcerting experiences).
The overall energy direction is calculated much the same as the overall pleasure direction, with the difference being that the results will show the overall tendency of the compound toward stimulation or sedation. If the net score is positive it indicates a trend toward stimulation, if the net score is negative it indicates a trend toward sedation. If the score is close to or at 0 it indicates that a compound is not particularly prone toward one direction or the other (this could mean neither stimulation nor sedation or it could indicate that people are more or less equally prone to the experience of either).
Compound specific discussion.
5-MeO-DMT is a compound that is very intense and fairly short-acting when vaporized or insufflated. It has been a component of certain shaman’s brews and snuffs for centuries. While most respondents to this survey considered the compound to be worthwhile, in the freeform discussion they often commented on how the compound appears to be a very important though in no way causal compound. Words like ‘extreme,’ ‘intense,’ and ‘strong’ came up frequently. Spiritual or mystical language was also used in the discussion of this compound. This survey received almost 50 responses, so the data from it is probably fairly reliable.
Looking at the data here, 89.4% of respondents considered the material ‘worthwhile.’
The overall average pleasure score is +1.10 or roughly ‘Pleasant.’ While the compound clearly trended to the positive, the range of responses included every possible score.
The respondents generally reported that this is a noticeably stimulating compound with a stimulation score of +0.69 or in between ‘Neutral’ and ‘Slightly Stimulating.’ While there was a notable trend toward stimulation, the range of responses included every possible score.
The most commonly reported ‘primary effect’ of this compound was ‘Awe / Amazement’ with 85% of respondents noting it. Fully 42.5% of respondents reported ‘Extreme Open Eye Visuals’ and 47.5% reported ‘Extreme Closed Eye Visuals.’ Interestingly though, 5% reported ‘No Psychedelic Effects Noticed.’
The most commonly reported side-effect for this compound was ‘Anxiety &/or Feeling Very Nervous,’ with 39.5% of respondents reporting feeling that way. 26.3% of respondents checked the ‘No appreciable side effects what so ever’ item.
Like most other compounds surveyed, the most frequently reported number of uses was 2-5 times (30.8%), though there was a rather wider range of responses with 5-MeO-DMT than with most other compounds. People reported usage ranging from 1-100+ times.
There were the following freeform items:
“Visuals so intesne what I saw was a completly different world than what I was in.”
“Smoking the substance produced a sensation of suffocation even while breathing in.. a numbing of the lungs. The substance is too short acting to be very useful in my opinion; this is the reason for the low overall rating.”
“At the 3 to 12mg dose range it was pleasant, but not as nice as DMT or DPT. It had an effect similar to LSA(from MG seeds), but the effect had a strong stimulant side to it and the effects were compressed into about an hour of time. At the 25mg doseage it was unpleasant. Racing heart rate and pulse. Oh there was some nausea and a head ache at that level too.”
“wow”
“There was for me a week long hangover from the drug where I felt a bit dull, but it faded with time.”
“Positive - The feeling of being reborn is amazing. You appreciate life so much more after 5-meo-dmt use. It's sad that something very extreme has to happen for one to expericnce this, or just use some 5-meo-dmt. Negative - Not really recreationaly fun, chemical vapor is harsh on lungs.”
“Not a traditional psychedelic in any way. The first time I did it, I had maybe 5 people over at my house. By the time I had exhaled the vapor, my mind was reeling and I thought, "what have I gotten myself into, I wasn;t prepared for this." For the next few minutes, I couldn;t think at all, it felt like I was racing along at 100 miles an hour. The only words that came to me were fuck, shit, and oh my god. My friends later told me they were yelling at me. I recall that my eyes were open and there was a visual scene present, but it had nothing at all to do with my experience. I didn't hear anyone say anything to me. After the peak, I got up and told everyone they had to leave immediately. It took about another 15 minutes for me to calm down enough to call them and tell them I was alright. I just wasn;t really sure what had just happened to me. The other notable effect was that for about 30 minutes after the peak, I couldn't really feel my body. I was taking the stairs 3 at a time and it felt natural. Very very strange substance. It wasn't pleasent in any conventional way, but I said it was one of my favorites and I would do it again because nothing else will give you as extreme of an experience as that. I've never felt anything like that before in my life.”
“Both my most intensely beatiful and most intensely horrific moments of my life have occured after smoking this chemical. It is truly quite powerful.”
“far too intense to use as a general psychedelic. this one is held in higher regard among the others as a deep and powerful spiritual tool.”
“Best psychedelic, and if you had to choose one, Id pick this one as it is simply perfect.”
I B