Soon as I get baking soda I will try out the Stuffmonger Process and post pics/results :-D I should easily be able to discern any difference between the original white HCL and the end product
Cheers!
Truthwalker - an important note if you're going to try this:
The slow heating is critical. What you end up with using the quick and dirty approach is truly awesome stuff, but remember, the Tan is only a small part of your end product. You have unreacted baking soda, you have the reaction products in precipitate, AND you can't avoid having a small amount of unreacted mdpv. The best quick and dirty batch I ever achieved still had, it appeared, at least 10% mdpv left. This is not so bad considering the potency of the pure Tan (which, dosage wise is is many times more potent than mdpv) and the dilution of the mdpv with the reactants. And -the dosage for this conglomerate mix is STILL only 5 mg for a nice effect, remember. And a not so small amount of fgreebase mdpv oil will unavoidably be evaporated off during heading. BUT -- you will still notice, if you are clued in to your own body and its reactions to drugs, a small, very slightly annoying, background mdpv hum. Most people who have never tasted pure Tan would never notice. I notice. It sounds like you might notice.
But the issue here is: it's very easy to end up with a large percentage of mdpv, and absolutely no Tan, if the heating is not done properly. The Tan oil does vaporize at a temperature far less than the vaporization temperature of mdpv oil. What you're left with then is a weak mdpv and a lot of wasted effort. Re-read the quick and dirty post and check out the test tube photos of the end product oil you're looking for before you begin. When you get that effect - STOP. You can also end up with nothing. I can't count the number of times, when I first started this quest, where I ended up with all of the mdpv oil gone, all of the Tan oil gone, and an end product which, when bumped, burned like hell and left me stone cold sober.
You can of course play games with the quick and dirty approach which improves things: You can siphon off the solution (which contains unreacted, dissolved pure mdpv) and replace with distilled water. This helps a lot, but the precipitate still contains a fair amount of mdpv. You can try remove the trace amounts of light green pure mdpv oil left on the surface after the reaction (more difficult than it sounds). There are other things, but really not necessary because the end product is still unbelievable, in spite of the mdpv contamination. It's like having a girlfriend who fucks like a Bangkok prostitute, has a PhD in your favorite subject, cooks like a French Chef, has the most beautiful face in the world, but has a mole under her arm. Most would chalk it up to: "Well, life isn't perfect is it?"
And this might be the place to talk about "Pure Tan". My first post in this thread alluded to the process, and visually showed some of the procedures. I purposely obfuscated a little, because, well, I did a lot of work to figure out how to make it pure, and it's not really necessary for the average user anyway. The quick and dirty, which anyone can do, is well explained above and produces, IMHO, the finest chemical ever to appear on this planet. I'm a perfectionist, however, and spent the better part of this past year honing a purification procedure. I won't talk about how to do, because it wouldn't be germane to the average kitchen cook. It requires, among other unwieldy implements, a rotovap:
An Airclean system:
A reasonably powerful microscope that will connect to a computer (so you can do detailed, microscopic measurements), and an incubator:
It's not a fun process. Five consecutive full 12 hour workdays will produce only this:
A one milligram dose of this, whatever THIS is, is scary. A 10 mg dose, unchaperoned, would be unquestionable fatal, or at least massively harmful - mostly from the uncontrollable insanity it would bring into your life. Keep in mind that the end product of the "quick and dirty approach" that I outlined contains less than 10% of this substance (precipitate, unavoidable loss through evaporation, mdpv contamination, etc.), so a 5mg dose of the "quick and dirty" is a good time. A 5mg dose of the pure would be a time you would never forget, and probably never want to repeat.
What I do here, with my friends and acquaintances who, rightly, worship this stuff, is mix it 50 to 1 with ground up Excedrin, and wrap it in 25mg doses:
Why Excedrin? First, large doses of the Tan is socially harmful, at the least, and people are people. They don't use the best judgment sometimes. Powdered excedrin, bumped or plugged in doses of more than 200mg in a single day, will cause massive pain, bleeding and discomfort. It is a deterrent to crossing the line into extreme danger. Second, daily use of the Tan causes a a slight background headache for some users after a few days (me included). 25 mg of Excedrin powder, bumped, removes it entirely. But.... since people are people, a number of folks have figured out how to remove the Excedrin by mixing the batch in a large quantity of water. The Excedrin remains in suspension for 10 or 15 minutes. The pure Tan falls to the bottom almost immediately. They siphon off the suspension and are left with an extremely dangerous substance. Dangerous because it is utterly impossible to measure a safe dosage of the pure substance, without possessing a scale costing thousands of dollars.. there have already been harmful events with people who have "purified" my Excedrin mix.
Why the microscope? Because, contrary to popular opinion in this forum that bacteria could play no part in the production of this substance, I am firmly convinced of the contrary. In my process, I first culture a specific Psuedomonas strain (that I am convinced, through a year of difficult trial error, is the strain responsible), and must visually confirm its volume.
It may be that Amanitadine is correct, and I am living in delusion, in which case I am certainly deluded about the bacteria as well. In the world of drugs, anything is possible.
The bacteria that I use, btw, is one of the most common in the world, and, unless you live at the South Pole, it is certainly present in your kitchen and will do its good deed for you somewhere along the lines of the "quick and dirty" process.