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Adam (aka Marc Wilems) of the Farmers Market pleads guilty.

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Adam (aka Marc Willems) of the Farmers Market pleads guilty.

LA Times said:
Dutch national pleads guilty to running online marketplace for drugs
By Victoria Kim


He was a global entrepreneur doing business in every state and 45 foreign countries. He connected buyers and sellers in a virtual marketplace where millions of dollars' worth of merchandise was traded. For customers, he offered quality control by screening suppliers and guaranteeing delivery.

This week, Marc Peter Willems, a 45-year-old Dutch national, admitted in federal court in Los Angeles that the merchandise was illegal drugs and that he took a cut of the sales.

Willems, federal prosecutors say, was one of the main operators of an innocuously named online network, the Farmer's Market, that sold LSD, ecstasy, marijuana and other drugs. He pleaded guilty Tuesday to drug trafficking and money laundering charges.
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The network operated in the shadowy corners of the Web using a network that masked the Internet addresses of buyers and sellers. Customers were directed to make payments via Western Union to individuals in Budapest or to accounts in Panama, according to a plea agreement Willems signed. Willems' customers included a 19-year-old in Oak Creek, Wis., and an undercover Drug Enforcement Administration agent in Los Angeles, according to the agreement.

Five others have pleaded guilty in the scheme, and another has agreed to plead guilty Monday. An eighth defendant also charged in the case has died since the indictments were handed up two years ago. Willems faces between 10 years and life in prison, prosecutors said.
Think of it as Amazon. - Assistant U.S. Atty. Rasha Gerges Shields, of Willems' drug marketplace

Willems was the "originator" of the network, initially called Adamflowers, that was launched in 2006 and offered an online storefront for controlled substances, prosecutors said. Michael Evron, a U.S. citizen who was living in Buenos Aires and who has also pleaded guilty, soon joined him to handle the technological aspect of the operation.

The network handled all communications between suppliers and customers, and charged a commission on each order, according to the plea agreement. At checkout, customers were even given the option to insure their purchases in the event of law enforcement seizures or other delivery problems, Assistant U.S. Atty. Rasha Gerges Shields said.

The network's thousands of customers were of varying ages, but many were under 21 and some of the orders went to college dorm rooms, according to Shields. Authorities identified more than a dozen customers in California, she said.

Between 2007 and 2012, the marketplace handled about $2.5 million worth of orders, according to the plea. In addition to Western Union, the marketplace also used PayPal and gold-based digital currencies Pecunix and iGolder to handle the financial transactions between customers.

Many of the men involved in operating the site had never met in person, and some were regular customers who were later recruited to work for the marketplace, Shields said.

An undercover DEA agent made a purchase of 25 hits of LSD in March 2009, according to court records. The drugs were delivered to him in Los Angeles in exchange for $180 wired to Budapest. He was again able to place an order in September for 500 hits, for which he paid $2,500.

When the indictment was unsealed in April 2012, authorities made arrests across the U.S. and in the Netherlands and Colombia, where Evron was visiting. Willems fought his extradition from his native Netherlands for two years, taking his legal battle all the way to that nation's highest court, Shields said.

Evron has also pleaded guilty to drug trafficking and money laundering charges; he is scheduled to be sentenced in November.

Willems' attorney did not respond to requests for comment Wednesday. Willems is scheduled to be sentenced in December.
http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-online-drug-marketplace-20140904-story.html
http://www.morelaw.com/verdicts/case.asp?s=CA&d=71855
 
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Could Willems get life in prison on his first conviction if he was prosecuted in the Netherlands?

The Farmers Market sold psychedelics and marijuana products. There wasn't any violence involved, they didn't sell hard drugs, and didn't sell guns. The United States shut down Open Source and the Farmers Market then the Silkroad grew and sold hard drugs and pornography. The United States shut down the Silkroad and now the other darknet sites distribute guns, drugs, porn, and stolen personal information. If the United States eliminates the darkenet markets completely then the murderous cartels and gangs regain complete control. The entire world shares the burden of the increased violence.
 
Incredible how people can be so blind and think they would get away with it. It´s a matter of time. Always.
 
What the hell gives the US the right to round these people up when their operations were global and not even run out of America? Americans like to call their president the "leader of the free world" but I sure as fuck didn't vote for him, and neither did Marc Willems.
 
What the hell gives the US the right to round these people up when their operations were global and not even run out of America? Americans like to call their president the "leader of the free world" but I sure as fuck didn't vote for him, and neither did Marc Willems.

Because they sold drugs to people in the US. Had they never sold to someone in the US, then you have a point, but in order to do business in the US, you need to follow US law. They did not. I agree that the US likes to overreach and I disagree with their drug policies, but I don't think this is a case of the US messing with something that isn't their business.
 
Because they sold drugs to people in the US. Had they never sold to someone in the US, then you have a point, but in order to do business in the US, you need to follow US law. They did not. I agree that the US likes to overreach and I disagree with their drug policies, but I don't think this is a case of the US messing with something that isn't their business.

If he had sold drugs solely to the US, you would have a point, but it was a global operation, and as such the US has no more right to him than any other country, and less right to him than his home country. America is so self centered - hell, read it in the article "He was a global entrepreneur doing business in every state and 45 foreign countries," as though the fact that he had a customer in every state in the US at some stage or another is somehow more important than the fact that, by the way, he sold in 45 other bloody countries!

Don't get me wrong, he shouldn't be going to jail at all, but the sheer arrogance of the US for thinking they have the right to just snatch up anyone they like because of whatever happened in their country alone instead of taking the global picture into account is absurd. If they want to pack those medieval hellholes they call prisons full to overflowing, that's between them and their citizens, but those citizens or those who actually committed a crime directly on US soil should be the only ones the prisons are being packed with.
 
Incredible how people can be so blind and think they would get away with it. It´s a matter of time. Always.

Long time in this case. Article is wrong about when Amsterdam flowers really started. Like when California brought in legal med pot in 2002 or 2001 or whenever it was these guys had already been in the business a few years.
 
you can't act like you're surprised that the USA would do this tho crankinit, they do whatever they want. fighting evil and all that...
 
If he had sold drugs solely to the US, you would have a point, but it was a global operation, and as such the US has no more right to him than any other country, and less right to him than his home country. America is so self centered - hell, read it in the article "He was a global entrepreneur doing business in every state and 45 foreign countries," as though the fact that he had a customer in every state in the US at some stage or another is somehow more important than the fact that, by the way, he sold in 45 other bloody countries!

Don't get me wrong, he shouldn't be going to jail at all, but the sheer arrogance of the US for thinking they have the right to just snatch up anyone they like because of whatever happened in their country alone instead of taking the global picture into account is absurd. If they want to pack those medieval hellholes they call prisons full to overflowing, that's between them and their citizens, but those citizens or those who actually committed a crime directly on US soil should be the only ones the prisons are being packed with.

Any other company that does business in the US is supposed to be governed by the same laws, whether they are or not is another discussion, so it's only fair that it was applied in this case. Imo, if you're doing business in a state or country, you must abide by the laws or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Not saying it's right or wrong, just fair.
 
Any other company that does business in the US is supposed to be governed by the same laws, whether they are or not is another discussion, so it's only fair that it was applied in this case. Imo, if you're doing business in a state or country, you must abide by the laws or be prepared to deal with the consequences. Not saying it's right or wrong, just fair.

Your logic is flawed. This isn't the universal business principle of the United States. If I sold gay pride literature via the mail with recipients in Russia the United States wouldn't extradite me so I could serve prison time in Russia because I was disseminating "pro-homosexual propaganda". If I sold twigs labeled "magic wands" via mail with recipients in Saudi Arabia the United States wouldn't extradite me enabling my decapitation as a witch in Saudi Arabia. The United States houses the largest internment camp population in the world. In the majority of the world the United Sates drug war and internment camps are considered as ridiculous as anti-homosexuality laws and laws against sorcery.

If American citizens ordered Adams products they were guilty of breaking the American laws. Adams crime was committed in the Netherlands and involved the applicable laws there. If Americans were importing banned goods this issue is with U.S. customs and the U.S. citizens. This type of situation is the main reason the United States government spends billions of dollars (the most in the world) each day murdering regular people (ambiguously labeled terrorist) in other countries. Our leaders are afraid of being held accountable for their violations of human rights and defend themselves with the threat of violence. Adam distributed chemicals threatening the power of the United States leaders. America demanded Willems and the Netherlands gave in out of fear because the United States regularly makes examples of those threatening their power.
 
Our leaders are afraid of being held accountable for their violations of human rights and defend themselves with the threat of violence.

Violence against a leader of Netherlands over extraditing a drug dealer? or I guess can you clarify this statement please. I just am having trouble understanding what this means.
 
Your logic is flawed. This isn't the universal business principle of the United States. If I sold gay pride literature via the mail with recipients in Russia the United States wouldn't extradite me so I could serve prison time in Russia because I was disseminating "pro-homosexual propaganda". If I sold twigs labeled "magic wands" via mail with recipients in Saudi Arabia the United States wouldn't extradite me enabling my decapitation as a witch in Saudi Arabia. The United States houses the largest internment camp population in the world. In the majority of the world the United Sates drug war and internment camps are considered as ridiculous as anti-homosexuality laws and laws against sorcery.

If American citizens ordered Adams products they were guilty of breaking the American laws. Adams crime was committed in the Netherlands and involved the applicable laws there. If Americans were importing banned goods this issue is with U.S. customs and the U.S. citizens. This type of situation is the main reason the United States government spends billions of dollars (the most in the world) each day murdering regular people (ambiguously labeled terrorist) in other countries. Our leaders are afraid of being held accountable for their violations of human rights and defend themselves with the threat of violence. Adam distributed chemicals threatening the power of the United States leaders. America demanded Willems and the Netherlands gave in out of fear because the United States regularly makes examples of those threatening their power.

Absolutely. It's all about making an example.

Violence against a leader of Netherlands over extraditing a drug dealer? or I guess can you clarify this statement please. I just am having trouble understanding what this means.

I don't think he's being literal, it's more a question of political and economic force. Sadly the US has a lot of that, which is how they bullied the whole world into following them into this hellish drug war in the first place.
 
Absolutely. It's all about making an example.
I don't think he's being literal, it's more a question of political and economic force. Sadly the US has a lot of that, which is how they bullied the whole world into following them into this hellish drug war in the first place.

..and they continue using this force destructively. Sometimes in explicit violation of human rights and international law.

Senate report on CIA program details brutality, dishonesty
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...9f38-95a187e4c1f7_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop

I am so busy and forgetful this time of year. How odd this is the month they release their report on torture.
 
..and they continue using this force destructively. Sometimes in explicit violation of human rights and international law.

Senate report on CIA program details brutality, dishonesty
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...9f38-95a187e4c1f7_story.html?tid=pm_world_pop

I am so busy and forgetful this time of year. How odd this is the month they release their report on torture.

Oh c'mon, you don't think families will be discussion the CIA torturing suspected terrorists over Christmas dinner? lol.

'Hey Uncle Bob, you think there's ever a time when torture could be acceptable?' 'Oh, and pass the ham while you're at it'
 
Unfortunately I was a part of this bust and just got out of federal prison. Marc/Adam should be back home in Holland soon.
 
Unfortunately I was a part of this bust and just got out of federal prison. Marc/Adam should be back home in Holland soon.

Adam is doing his time in Holland? How many years?

Do you have any information on the vendors convictions and sentencing? My life was saved with the therapeutic use of LSD and I am thankful LSD was available. I think the first LSD I experienced was from Joot or Adam, I can't be certain. They were fruity tasting "Hoffman" prints.
 
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Adam is doing his time in Holland? How many years?

Do you have any information on the vendors convictions and sentencing? My life was saved with the therapeutic use of LSD and I am thankful LSD was available. I think the first LSD I experienced was from Joot or Adam, I can't be certain. They were fruity tasting "Hoffman" prints.
Adam is a great dude. He/we helped many people.

He was in Holland fighting extradition since 2012, he signed a deal that allowed the US to extradite him if he could serve his sentence in Holland. He got to los Angeles in 2014 having served 2 years overseas. He signed for 10 years, but with the treaty we have he only had to serve about one third of his sentence. So he should be out soon.

Adam and keish signed for 10, keish got the most time even though he ratted on all of us.

I signed for 57-63months and the judge sentenced me to 41 months, along with 4years of supervised release, so I got out the 7th of this month.
 
After Adam the Netherlands refused extraditing criminals into the United States because we violate United Nations treaties on torture.

Fascinating even with Adam they extradited him with the condition his sentence was reduced 2/3. Also America continues executing criminals and most of Europe has abolished the death sentence.
 
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