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Foxy and AMT arrests

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from http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/dp-50797sy0mar17.story
Arrests signal new drug, Foxy, is entering area
The Virginian-Pilot
Published March 17, 2002
The latest designer drug, known as Foxy, has reached the Hampton Roads area, law-enforcement officials say.
Three men were arrested this week on federal charges of conspiracy to manufacture and distribute the drug.
"This designer-drug case is the first of its kind in the Hampton Roads area and may be the first of its kind in the nation," U.S. Attorney Paul McNulty said.
Timothy C. Luken, 38, of Norfolk and Richard L. Klecker, 22, and Michael D. Wolfe, 22, both of Newport News, were jailed on the federal charge, pending an appearance in U.S. District Court.
Klecker and Wolfe are in the Navy, the U.S. attorney said. Luken's occupation wasn't disclosed.
The men also are accused of distributing another new designer drug, AMT.
Foxy also known as "Foxy Methoxy" and AMT are hallucinogens closely associated with Ecstasy, a designer or "club" drug that's been around for more than a decade.
Agents searched homes Thursday in Norfolk and Newport News to gather evidence. The Naval Criminal Investigative Service, Norfolk police and Virginia State Police are investigating.
Copyright © 2002, Daily Press
 
So, since when was 5-ME0 scheduled? Are they prosecustiung this under Analogue?
 
Yeah it would have to be under the analogue act. I had read on a mailing list that apparently it had been pressed into pills, which would make it easier to prove it was for consumption
[ 19 March 2002: Message edited by: campers ]
 
5Meo-DiPT, foxy, is still unscheduled. AND, it is still legal to technically posess in its simplest form of powder. However, once it is put into capsules or pressed into pills, it is prosecutable under the analogue act.
*sigh* poor foxy.....its gonna be scheduled and illegal soon enough.
 
grrr :(
people piss me off... really.
somebody @ my highschool was talking about 2-ct-7, which is just insane--for anyone there to even know what it is (not by chem name of course, but by "blue mystic") blows my mind... we'll all have to say goodbye to research chems soon enuff.
::sigh::
[ 20 March 2002: Message edited by: jerzeezfinest ]
 
This is pretty scary. I wonder if these guys were actually throwing caution to the wind and dealing the stuff in bulk.
Or if they were rather just curious people who eventually got too noisy with their experimenting.
 
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I'm just pondering here, but I think it will probably turn out that they were just pressing pills of 5-MeO-DiPT and AMT and not actually manufacturing. With them both legal and pretty easy to procure (not as easy as, say, a can of tomato paste from Meijer's, but not as difficult as, say, a kilogram of ergotamine tartarate) it would make more sense to just order a couple grams and make the pills. But who knows?
And it's not unusual for people in high schools to be talking about this sort of research chemical stuff. It's high school and college-age people that seem to use the internet the most and any of them could find Erowid and get information on the more obscure drugs.
 
I'm in high school and I learned about foxy and amt from YOU people. I dont give a crap about foxy though, it's the amt bust that scares me. How can someone seriously consider selling drugs that no one knows a damn thing about? Doesn't anyone understand the concept that the second research chems become a market commodity, they will be schedueled and we will NEVER, EVER see these drugs again? WTF?!?!
 
wtf?
how the hell is amt and foxy related to ecstacy, apart from both having a benzene ring.
ecsacy is a phenethylamine and amt and foxy r tryptamines
 
http://www.pilotonline.com/news/nw0319dru.html
3 face charges involving new designer drugs
By TIM MCGLONE, The Virginian-Pilot
© March 19, 2002
NORFOLK -- The latest designer drugs to hit the area, known as Foxy and AMT, have sent users to the hospital and three men to jail.
The hallucinogenic drugs are so new that the government has yet to classify them as illegal narcotics.
Three local men arrested last week were charged under a part of federal law that makes it illegal to possess or make a drug that mimics the effects of an illegal narcotic. On Monday in federal court, they were denied bond.
They are accused of making and selling Foxy and AMT pills. The drugs are more potent than Ecstasy and DET, two illegal hallucinogens known as club or designer drugs.
The drugs typically come in white tablets. Some people have reported experiencing distorted sights and sounds, while others have suffered convulsions and vomiting, according to a Web site that tracks drug use.
Several users locally -- it's unclear how many -- went to area emergency rooms after taking the drugs, officials said in court.
One suspect, Timothy C. Luken, 38, of the 2500 block of Granby St., used his position as a secretary at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital to obtain information about patients who arrived at the hospital's emergency room suffering from adverse reactions to drugs, court records said.
A federal agent testified Monday that Luken was checking to see if the patients were people who bought Foxy or AMT at his home.
Norfolk police received ``several complaints from that residence that people were getting ahold of some bad stuff and becoming violently ill,'' said Heather M. Bain, a special agent with the Naval Criminal Investigative Service who testified Monday.
Luken was placed on administrative leave without pay pending the outcome of the criminal case, said Ann Keffer, a Sentara spokeswoman. She declined further comment.
Co-defendants Richard L. Klecker and Michael D. Wolfe, both 22 and of the 100 block of Louise Drive, Newport News, were arrested Thursday and Friday after federal agents searched their homes and said they discovered pounds of suspected Foxy and other drugs.
At Luken's Granby Street home, where one neighbor said the man ran a neighborhood anti-drug group, agents discovered enough suspected powdered Foxy to make more than 10,000 pills, officials said. At $15 a pill, the proceeds would have been $150,000.
Agents also said they discovered hundreds of tablets of other drugs, including AMT and Ecstasy, at both homes. When they raided Wolfe's home, they found him sitting in the living room holding an unloaded, .38-caliber revolver, according to court testimony.
Navy investigators opened their case in January and were joined by Norfolk and state police.
Court records said an undercover agent bought 100 Foxy pills from Luken for $1,100. Another time, an informant saw Klecker manufacture 434 Foxy pills using a tablet presser, and on Feb. 26, an informant watched as Wolfe acted as a ``guinea pig'' to test an AMT pill, court records said.
Wolfe and Klecker are childhood friends from Ohio who joined the Navy together, federal officials said.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Laura Tayman told the judge that a number of sailors on local ships bought drugs from one or more of the suspects.
Defense attorneys for two of the suspects argued that the charges should be dismissed because the drugs have not been made illegal.
``They've done absolutely nothing wrong,'' said Klecker's attorney, David W. Bouchard. He told the judge that Foxy can be purchased over the Internet.
``The government's case at this point is extremely weak,'' argued Luken's attorney, Larry W. Shelton, Norfolk's federal public defender.
But Magistrate Judge Tommy E. Miller sided with the government in denying bond.
``Just because something is sold over the Internet doesn't make it legal,'' said Miller, citing child pornography as an example.
The defense attorneys said they will press the issue further at trial.
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POUNDS of Foxy? Holy shit, I have a gram, and I think THAT is a lot.
F*ckin morons.
 
Originally posted by ikarus:

And it's not unusual for people in high schools to be talking about this sort of research chemical stuff. It's high school and college-age people that seem to use the internet the most and any of them could find Erowid and get information on the more obscure drugs.

I dont know, I think you give them a little too much credit yet... The kid that was talking about it had no idea what it actually was...when they're this age (yes, my age) they are usually "looking for something to get madd fuckd up on man"--not researching and reading about obscure chemicals that produce psychoactive effects, and the precautions to be taken when experiementing with them.
Kids eating "these cool new pills" that "my boy's friend pressed" is what endangers these chemicals. The same kid was telling me how "[one of his friends] ate like 5 of them and almost had to go to the hospital." This is what I'm talking about. I found out about these chems from comming here and to erowid--but honestly, most people highschool age arent into reading about these things...they just eat/sniff/smoke whatever comes their way w/o knowing anything about it... I wish more teenagers would come to places like this b/c maybe they'd make more intelligent decisions.
granted...the ones that do take an initiative i give props to because its a lot better to find the world of resources for education and harm reduction in the beginning--and i've realized that most people want to just believe whatever they want to, talking somebody into reading up on things and giving them information is like hitting your head against a wall--is rarely productive and sure gives you a headache.
[ 21 March 2002: Message edited by: jerzeezfinest ]
 
Why do people always have to get greedy and pres.s this stuff into pills to sell to ignorant highschool kids? Answer me THAT.
 
People really underestimate the seriousness of the analog laws I think. Even if these people had been caught with a big jar of 5-MeO-DIPT powder rather than pills, they still would've been busted.
 
It's true. To any prosecutor, its simply a drug, they dont care what kind, they equate drugs with illegality. Cause, like, drugs are bad M'kayy.
 
Originally posted by BellababE:
It's true. To any prosecutor, its simply a drug, they dont care what kind, they equate drugs with illegality. Cause, like, drugs are bad M'kayy.
It doesn't matter if they just think the drugs are illegal it actually has to be covered by law. Which just about every research chemical is.
 
Originally posted by StuffedTiger:
Why do people always have to get greedy and pres.s this stuff into pills to sell to ignorant highschool kids? Answer me THAT.
You could likewise ask what makes people greedy enough to press pills cut with PMA, DXM... etc.
The sad fact of the matter is, anything uncovered that can be used in psychonautical experimentation will eventually be discovered by kids looking to get off their face from something new.
 
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