Could someone give me a taper plan to help me get off subs? I used subs to get off a moderate heroin habit, but stayed on the subs too long. I was taking a 4 mg dose of suboxone every third day for a month and for most of that time, that one dose would hold me the full three days until my next dose. Toward the end of the month though, I started having withdrawals 12 hours after taking the subs which I knew was a very bad sign indicating I had become addicted to the subs. I ran out of subs and was feeling rather bad today, nothing like heroin withdrawals but still bad enough that I was not well enough to feel like going to work. I took a tablespoon of bali and a half tablespoon of enhanced bali and 45 minutes later, I felt tremendous relief. Now I just want to know how long I need to stay on the kratom to minimize withdrawals.