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t6apb
09-05-2013, 11:44
3-(diethylamino)-2,2-dimethylpropyl 4-nitrobenzoate

http://chemicalwire.com/media/wysiwyg/Nitracaine_Chem_Data2.jpg

apparently similar to dimethocaine, anyone have any info or speculation?

sekio
09-05-2013, 18:56
4-nitro-dimethocaine, this is actually a likely precursor for dimethocaine (reduction of the nitro gorup to an amine yields DMC)

my moneys on this being a better local anesthetic than a stimulant.

rainey
11-05-2013, 20:03
Its a nice clean stim with no hangover. Burns on inufflation and quite a nasty drip. Medium duration of drip. Lasts about 2.5hrs insufflated. Oral dose over 100mg. Insufflated 30-50mg. Better than (real) DMC in my opinion.

Nothing special but nice enough for a legal (uk).

t6apb
12-05-2013, 09:27
you tried ethylphenidate?

how does it compare, any recreational value?

sick of them bringing out clean sober headed stims, gashhhh mate


EPH is easy top banana atm IMO

EPH is the closest to coke were getting i reckon, the amount of people ive shown it too.

everyone comes back after a few lines with the same quote "thats what coke should feel like!"

adrandell116
12-05-2013, 16:12
It always surprises me the amount of people who compare Ethyphenidate to Cocaine. I find them nothing alike what so ever. Ethylphenidate feels way to scatty to be a valid comparison to me.

I am interested in this Nitracaine, although I will wait until I read more about it before I personally indulge.

knock
12-05-2013, 18:59
Yeah, to me coke is strongly euphoric and mood-lifting. I don't get mood-lift or indeed much euphoria on EPH, a little euphoria but mostly focus and complete wakefulness. Don't find it scatty though, but I tend to keep doses low.


Seem to be some OK reviews going about on this, I might try some. It's been a while since I tried a new stimulant, and a long time since I had decent coke.

Psychedelic Jay
12-05-2013, 20:44
Is this freebasable?

I like vaping shit off foil, as most of you know... I would give it a try.

DMC has the same tax on the cardio system as coke does, so, I effectively do somewhere around 50% less, that is about the same as street level coke right at 40 to 60%?

tamarinds
12-05-2013, 23:00
Dimethocaine SUCKS.

Good numbing agent though

clubcard
13-05-2013, 20:42
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=12718038

Could someone tell me what this stuff means (if anything)?

knock
14-05-2013, 04:29
http://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/summary/summary.cgi?cid=12718038

Could someone tell me what this stuff means (if anything)?

It means you've searched for nitrocaine when the chemical under discussion is nitracaine ;)

And yes, they seem to be different chemicals, if we are to believe the vendor's information. Nitracaine has chemical formula C16H24N2O4 while nitrocaine is C13H19ClN2O4. Nitracaine is apparently 3-(diethylamino)-2,2-dimethylpropyl 4-nitrobenzoate while Nitrocaine is 2-(Diethylamino)ethyl 4-nitrobenzoate. Very similar but not the same.

clubcard
14-05-2013, 14:59
OK

Spijkers op laag water zoeken maar....


I took a gram and dissolved in 1l of own-brand cola. I am almost 2m tall & 95Kg but even so, I decided that after the alargy test was OK (just done this so if you don't here from me...) I would try 50ml (so 50mg) doses every 20 minutes.

Many years ago in a country where cocaine was legal (so you can guess it was south of the Škvator (I cannot bother to find dictionary) I put a gram of powder (so you can be sure it's strong) into 1l of Pett Cola (Can I say the brand? Please edit if not) and I drank in this way. It took 150ml to work so let us see if it is quite the same and if it is strong.

I know I'm new so what I say is not so important but I read few reports off this and some other sites so here goes...

knock
14-05-2013, 18:35
Spijkers op laag water zoeken maar....


Is het, hoewel? 3-MMC en 4-MEC zijn niet veel als 4-MMC in mijn ervaring.

clubcard
14-05-2013, 20:17
Het voelde heel graag 'echte Coca Cola', maar ik misschien zeg ik niet zo sterk. Dus moeilijk te herinneren. Misschien de helft. Misschien.

Sorry - mijn Nederlands is zo slecht. Het is de vierde ot vijfde weet ik ... en ik ben zo slecht in hen allen.

Silverfox
15-05-2013, 22:45
OK, so I bought some and gave it a go. On day two of use I can report that it appears to be a functional stim. Similar to mpa in intensity, dose (20 to 40mg insufflated, same orally) and duration (1 hour nasally, 1.5 to 3 hours orally). Non-euphoric, slight mood lift. Big advantages over mpa are that it doesn't affect sleep, doesn't affect appetite, and doesn't appear to be vasoconstrictive (I have a big problem peeing after taking mpa). There is some slight urge to redose but no more than mpa. Too early to report on come downs but it feels pretty benign so far. My preferred ROA for such things is insufflation so I haven't explored oral dosing beyond a couple of doses.

lastest
16-05-2013, 01:53
Gets a big meh from me, but I only use stims for a particular reason, and this stuff sounds like it works well for what most people like to do on stims - go out and party. I enjoy downers of all kinds, which at the moment means etizolam, pyrazolam and codeine (cwe) because that's all I can get. But I'm particularly sensitive to the hypnotic effects of these drugs, and I find that a large enough dose to make me feel good equals a large enough dose to send me to sleep throughout the the effects of the drugs, which is a massive waste of drugs and therefore money. Caffeine, in any amount, does nothing to counter this, so I use modest bumps of ethylphenidate to keep me awake.

I bought some nitracaine because it's got a awesome sounding name and comes in cool-looking crystals (I am a shallow, shallow man). The pain on insufflation was worse than eph but not by much - I always snort water before insuflating anything (one of the best pieces of advice I've ever gained from lurking around these forums) so that always helps an awful lot, and obviously I crushed up the crystals into a fine powder. The drip was godawful though, ten times worse than eph, and went on for ages. It wasn't just the horrible taste, it actually hurt my throat. It did the job in terms of keeping me awake to enjoy my codeine high (512mg is my dose - minus what I lose through extraction, although I like to think I've got it down to a fine art so I reckon my yield is high) but the drip put a real downer (as it were) on things. I sipped some beer but it hardly helped at all.

So my next bump was of eph and in direct comparison it was so much more pleasant - a brief sting and an ignorable drip, easily washed away with beer (I only drink very small amounts of beer while on codeine for obvious reasons). I also experienced a little more euphoria from the the eph - not much, but that's not what I use it for as I said. But the fact remains that eph in my experience does have more mood lift to offer than nitracaine.

I can see why people who are doing a serious stim session would go for nitra, as it's reported to be less scatty over long sessions than eph. I'll keep the nitracaine on hand for oral dosing on the rare occasions that I find myself in an all-nighter social setting. But I'm not ever sniffing it again, and I'm sticking to ethylphenidate for my ersatz (and rather tame) speedball experiences. A nice big hit of codeine, a bump of eph every so often and a beer to slowly sip on in front of the TV (current favourites, Rectify, Top of the Lake, Maron, The Ben Show). Bliss. I'm sure nitracaine (it is such a great name) has it's uses but it ain't going to replace ethylphenidate in my couch potato cocktail.

clubcard
16-05-2013, 10:13
I would just drink it - 1g in 1l of cola. 150ml/mg worked OK for me.

adrandell116
16-05-2013, 18:44
Gets a big meh from me, but I only use stims for a particular reason, and this stuff sounds like it works well for what most people like to do on stims - go out and party. I enjoy downers of all kinds, which at the moment means etizolam, pyrazolam and codeine (cwe) because that's all I can get. But I'm particularly sensitive to the hypnotic effects of these drugs, and I find that a large enough dose to make me feel good equals a large enough dose to send me to sleep throughout the the effects of the drugs, which is a massive waste of drugs and therefore money. Caffeine, in any amount, does nothing to counter this, so I use modest bumps of ethylphenidate to keep me awake.

I bought some nitracaine because it's got a awesome sounding name and comes in cool-looking crystals (I am a shallow, shallow man). The pain on insufflation was worse than eph but not by much - I always snort water before insuflating anything (one of the best pieces of advice I've ever gained from lurking around these forums) so that always helps an awful lot, and obviously I crushed up the crystals into a fine powder. The drip was godawful though, ten times worse than eph, and went on for ages. It wasn't just the horrible taste, it actually hurt my throat. It did the job in terms of keeping me awake to enjoy my codeine high (512mg is my dose - minus what I lose through extraction, although I like to think I've got it down to a fine art so I reckon my yield is high) but the drip put a real downer (as it were) on things. I sipped some beer but it hardly helped at all.

So my next bump was of eph and in direct comparison it was so much more pleasant - a brief sting and an ignorable drip, easily washed away with beer (I only drink very small amounts of beer while on codeine for obvious reasons). I also experienced a little more euphoria from the the eph - not much, but that's not what I use it for as I said. But the fact remains that eph in my experience does have more mood lift to offer than nitracaine.

I can see why people who are doing a serious stim session would go for nitra, as it's reported to be less scatty over long sessions than eph. I'll keep the nitracaine on hand for oral dosing on the rare occasions that I find myself in an all-nighter social setting. But I'm not ever sniffing it again, and I'm sticking to ethylphenidate for my ersatz (and rather tame) speedball experiences. A nice big hit of codeine, a bump of eph every so often and a beer to slowly sip on in front of the TV (current favourites, Rectify, Top of the Lake, Maron, The Ben Show). Bliss. I'm sure nitracaine (it is such a great name) has it's uses but it ain't going to replace ethylphenidate in my couch potato cocktail.

Sod all that codeine, source some AH-7921! It is much better and it's floating about as an RC, therefor no buzzing taste when downing the CWE! Plus, no chance of falling asleep on it alone (saying that, codeine does not make me sleep either). Ethylphenidate being called better than Nitracaine is baaaad, hah. The former is a horrid stim...

lastest
17-05-2013, 02:08
Sod all that codeine, source some AH-7921! It is much better and it's floating about as an RC, therefor no buzzing taste when downing the CWE! Plus, no chance of falling asleep on it alone (saying that, codeine does not make me sleep either). Ethylphenidate being called better than Nitracaine is baaaad, hah. The former is a horrid stim...

Eph is much better on the nose than than nitracaine, and if you're seriously telling me that AH-7921 is more easily obtained and/or more satisfying than codeine (via piss-easy cold water extraction from cheap OTC products) then you are seriously deluded.

knock
17-05-2013, 02:16
Ethylphenidate seems to be pretty fucking terrible on many people's noses, so this isn't saying much for nitracaine (which I've not tried yet) ;)

In the UK at least it's quite straightforward to obtain AH7921, easier, for me anyway, to obtain than pure codeine, and it's a solidly effective opioid at the right dose.

lastest
17-05-2013, 03:29
I find the codeine CWE process so quick and easy that I've never been tempted to try and obtain any RC opoid that isn't thought to be significantly better than codeine. adrandell116's main objection to extracted codeine solution seems be its 'buzzing taste'. I've never found the taste to be much of a problem. I've actually grown to quite like it.

adrandell116
17-05-2013, 18:22
I find the codeine CWE process so quick and easy that I've never been tempted to try and obtain any RC opoid that isn't thought to be significantly better than codeine. adrandell116's main objection to extracted codeine solution seems be its 'buzzing taste'. I've never found the taste to be much of a problem. I've actually grown to quite like it.

My main objection to codeine is the lack of enjoyment, I just get a huge histamine release followed by perhaps an hour of relaxation. No matter how high the dose. AH-7921 I get a solid 10 hours of fuzzy happiness. Also statistically it is significantly better than codeine. 100mg codeine = 10mg morphine. Where as 12.5 mg AH7921 = 10mg morphine. How is that not significantly better?

lastest
17-05-2013, 23:58
Well I enjoy codeine very much indeed. I'm lucky in that I get no significant histamine release symptoms, sometimes a slight itch but most often no itch at all - and that's without diphenhydramine or similar. And I get at least three hours of mild, relaxed euphoria. I don't need to be high for ten hours, I dose around three or four hours before I want to go to sleep and just chill and watch TV. It serves me very well for that purpose, thank you very much. Ten solid hours of being fucked on opiates doesn't really fit in with my lifestyle frankly, I've got shit to do. I'm not hugely interested in statistics either. I don't know why you've highjacked this thread on nitracaine to argue with me that your opioid is better than my opioid. I suggest you get back on topic mate.

My original point, lest we forget, is that that nitracaine, from what others have said, may well be better for long sessions than eph, but in terms of just doing one, or at most two, bumps in an evening eph wins for me because it's easier on the nose (although you're right, knock, it's not great in that regard, just much better than nitracaine, particularly in terms of the drip which I found utterly disgustiing) and gives me more euphoria from that initial rail, while doing its job in keeping me awake for a bit longer than I could otherwise manage.

adrandell116, your mileage obviously varies, in terms of your preference for both uppers and downers. What a wonderful world we live in that we all have different experiences and opinions. Enjoy it.

Silverfox
18-05-2013, 01:40
Dragging the thread back to nitracaine for a while... I would put it along side of mpa as a functional stim, but it is more practical as it doesn't suppress appetite or cause insomnia and at the doses I took I didn't get wired or jittery at all. I didn't find it particularly harsh on the nose (but I've been known to insufflate 4-fa on occasions). I had three days of use and got through around 250mg each day in 20 to 40mg bumps. Took a day off today didn't miss it or feel tired or down. I took it as a work aid so I don't know how it would go socially, I'd imagine it would work well with a few drinks though. It might work as a combo with mdai or methylone, any thoughts on potential risks here?

t6apb
18-05-2013, 05:12
so no euphoria or mood lift worth talking about?

i like my stims but they need some euphoric backing

adrandell116
19-05-2013, 18:26
Well I enjoy codeine very much indeed. I'm lucky in that I get no significant histamine release symptoms, sometimes a slight itch but most often no itch at all - and that's without diphenhydramine or similar. And I get at least three hours of mild, relaxed euphoria. I don't need to be high for ten hours, I dose around three or four hours before I want to go to sleep and just chill and watch TV. It serves me very well for that purpose, thank you very much. Ten solid hours of being fucked on opiates doesn't really fit in with my lifestyle frankly, I've got shit to do. I'm not hugely interested in statistics either. I don't know why you've highjacked this thread on nitracaine to argue with me that your opioid is better than my opioid. I suggest you get back on topic mate.

My original point, lest we forget, is that that nitracaine, from what others have said, may well be better for long sessions than eph, but in terms of just doing one, or at most two, bumps in an evening eph wins for me because it's easier on the nose (although you're right, knock, it's not great in that regard, just much better than nitracaine, particularly in terms of the drip which I found utterly disgustiing) and gives me more euphoria from that initial rail, while doing its job in keeping me awake for a bit longer than I could otherwise manage.

adrandell116, your mileage obviously varies, in terms of your preference for both uppers and downers. What a wonderful world we live in that we all have different experiences and opinions. Enjoy it.

Well, it did start as a bit of friendly advice to stop you drinking APAP on a regular occasion. Regardless how well you do a CWE, APAP on a regular basis even in small amounts is not good for your liver! But you appear to not like hearing peoples opinions/advice if it varies from your own.

So I have a gram of Nitracaine now, I am going to try and wait until next weekend to try it though as I have work in the morning. We shall see if I can manage this or not though... One thing I have noticed, which is odd for any new chemical. Is that there is not a Wikipedia entry for it! This is normally done weeks before it actually goes on sale. (Have I missed it when looking for it?).

Silverfox
20-05-2013, 11:08
so no euphoria or mood lift worth talking about?

i like my stims but they need some euphoric backing

No, and I've actually got quite bored with it now. For simple focus at work I prefer modafinil.

foolsgold
20-05-2013, 11:31
cheers that will say me wasting my money on it to

lynx2051
21-05-2013, 12:19
I've got a free sample coming tomorrow :D

IggiBizzle
22-05-2013, 13:38
Same :D

No one else getting euphoria off it?

lynx2051
22-05-2013, 15:52
Have u tried it yet? I might have some later, I'm not sniffing it though. Probably gonna have 50mg orally.

Well, tried 40mg and barely feels active. Next time I could try 60mg+ and work my way up.

Tried 85mg orally a few hours later and nothing but very mild stimulation which lasted about 40 minutes.

IggiBizzle
24-05-2013, 11:18
Tried 2 bombs of 30mg about 2 hours apart last night while out in the bars. Drinking too which I don't normally do. Definitely gives you a kick. Had about 30mg of 5apb later on. Made it more fun. On its own would be a very decent stimulant but that's about it.

lynx2051
24-05-2013, 15:31
Tried 2 bombs of 30mg about 2 hours apart last night while out in the bars. Drinking too which I don't normally do. Definitely gives you a kick. Had about 30mg of 5apb later on. Made it more fun. On its own would be a very decent stimulant but that's about it.

Strange, I felt little to nothing.

lastest
25-05-2013, 03:03
Well, it did start as a bit of friendly advice to stop you drinking APAP on a regular occasion.

No it didn't, you didn't mention that at all in your original reply to me. Plus you began with the phrase "sod all that codeine." How is that in the least bit friendly?

I say I like eph better that nitracaine to keep me awake during a codeine high. You say I shouldn't use codeine but your rc opioid instead to avoid the 'buzzing taste' of codeine solution (can a taste buzz?).

I say I don't mind the taste and you say it's not about that, it's about the fact that codeine isn't enjoyable. I say I enjoy it very much, and you say it's not about the taste or the enjoyment but the danger of liver damage from APAP, and claim that was your point all along.

What a spectacular display of debate via goalpost-shifting. I am in awe.

lynx2051
25-05-2013, 09:49
I didn't get any effects from doses below 100mg. Please could someone give me a brief description of the effects when dosing orally above 100mg ?

** Had 120mg orally and still nothing, except some mild body tingles, this is crap. Don't waste your money on it.

Limpet_Chicken
25-05-2013, 22:24
I am surprised nobody else has said this.

But AROMATIC NITRO COMPOUNDS ARE BAD NEWS!

I actually quite liked dimethocaine, I'm not much of a stimulant person at all, for me, they occasionally, very occasionally, have a practical use, and can be enjoyable along with that, but otherwise, I'll pass usually. DMC was pretty decent in my experience of it, but then I found out about the aromatic amine moiety there (these are also generally prone to being obnoxious, toxicologically speaking) and never touched the stuff again.

JedTheHumanoid
27-05-2013, 22:36
This stuff is useless, worked my way through 375mg insuffalation and oral and barely more stimulated than after a couple of espressos. Just bombed last 125mg, but not expecting anything.

eriknick
09-06-2013, 00:01
Like synthacaine, same shit. took 50mg nasally and felt a lot... a lot of pain - this burns like hell and this was the only effect. not to mention the fact that ... next day my tissue was pretty red. omg, this is my first post ever and it sounds like a rap-song. I'm sorry but to my excuse: i'm not very often write in english. Greetings from Germany

mdma13013
12-06-2013, 20:16
This stuff is nasty nasallyy and dnt seem to get u as high as orally. My experience 100mg orally was more efficient than 80 nasally.

Save ur nose swallow it!=D

lynx2051
16-06-2013, 21:39
This stuff is nasty nasallyy and dnt seem to get u as high as orally. My experience 100mg orally was more efficient than 80 nasally.

Save ur nose swallow it!

It's shit. I don't think it was even active.

knock
18-06-2013, 18:30
Plugged it seems pretty nice!

Short lasting and needs about 80-100mg I reckon. I'm wary of it in the same way I'm wary of cocaine, though, i.e. heart problems, which seem less and less sensible a risk the older I get.

Soulfake
03-07-2013, 14:28
Does it have the "clear sunshine" effect like Dimethocaine? I really like how DMC can give you an instant happy state without the side-effects of other stimulants.

shamone
26-07-2013, 18:00
I just read this thread as have seen nitracaine advertised in a couple of places and thought i would check out what peoples experiences with it were...My preferred ROA is insufflation, and after reading this I think I will give it a miss, as I have been completely put off sniffing it!

Also, just have to say, cant understand the bitchyness regarding the codiene / RC Opioid thing! He was just suggesting that if you liked codiene that this RC opioid might be something you would enjoy!! But anyway, thanks to everyone who posted on here, as you helped me come to a decision, exactly what I wanted from reading this!

flagship
30-08-2013, 14:24
Hi, first time poster long time user of Bluelight here. Just thought I'd post a quick report on SWIM's experience of nitrocaine as there doesn't seem to be much info around. SWIM is not a scientist or an intellectual so apologies for potential crudeness of my report:

SWIM bought 500mg and insufflated approx 30-50mg a time. First impression of SWIM was it doesn't burn the nose as much as they heard. It's by no means pleasant but nowhere near as bad as some other substances SWIM has insufflated. The drip is mildly nasty but doesn't linger too much. SWIM found snorting water before and after helps in the long term.

The effects SWIM noticed are largely as anticipated. A pretty good functional stim, perfect for work or staying up long. SWIM felt chatty and quite relaxed with little to no detectable discomfort in the chest or heart. Feels clean. Also, no hangover or comedown was experienced and sleep was easy (albeit aided by a small dose of pyrazolam). SWIM however reported no particular euphoria but felt upbeat, content and happy so would certainly describe it as mood-lifting just not really describable as euphoric.

Reccomended for those who want a nice clean functional stim with no comedown. Nothing amazing here but if you take for said reasons it pretty much hits the nail on the head.

flagship
31-08-2013, 02:26
EDIT: after a few redoses it becomes monotonous and boring. Only good side is no lack of appetite. Boring functional stim after the initial mild mood lift in SWIM's opinion

djremix
12-09-2013, 16:35
thanks

deko
12-09-2013, 21:04
This stinks, its like snorting camphor crystals or something. will try a oral dose.

But I expect like other people have said it will be gash.

Limpet_Chicken
13-09-2013, 08:52
I would be really surprised if this nitrocaine garbage ISN'T hepatotoxic/nephrotoxic

Psychedelic Jay
13-09-2013, 10:24
I would be really surprised if this nitrocaine garbage ISN'T hepatotoxic/nephrotoxic

It hasn't been proven not to be with heavy usage...

It is still a possibility...

Stato
21-09-2013, 02:23
Not really any good.

Shot about 150mg of it, slight taste in moiuth, slight heartrate increase. nothing else. oh, a slight raise in body temp.

MPA is better, Ethylphenidate is better again, MDPV just sightly better again, and meth takes the holy grail IMHO.

mortiis11
27-09-2013, 01:23
I got a 250mg sample in crystal that i ground into a very fine powder, it has a bit of a funny smell to it

i had around 40mg nasal and not much felt. the burn wasnt as bad as EPH but lasted alot longer and left a minty hint behind, the drip was also rather nasty not much if anything was felt from this.another day another test this time i did just over 100mg bombed followed by another an hour later. nothing much was felt untill around 2 hours after inital dose and that was very minimal stimulation nothing a few strong caffine drinks couldnt mach . imo i would say that this is even worse than mpa and mpa wasnt that much of a great chem either.

just to reiterate previous posters dont waste your money on this one i was lucky i got it for free after an order of mine was messed up otherwise id be very disapointed wasting money on this