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tomatalli
12-09-2013, 07:02
Still doin dope, dont know how im affordimg it but i am. Im just not ready to get clean, no matter how bad it would be if i was found out for the third time i just dont give a fuck.

BlueHues
12-09-2013, 07:25
whats up guys?

I took a road trip out to Cali and it's been a nightmare, my car has broken down three times!

I'm in Oakland right now and today I actually got randomly offered Tar on the streets...My car is in the shop and my friend I was staying with was on the other side of town....I bought a good size little chunk that looked like a lump of coal for 15 bucks but between the sub Ive been taking and the mediocre quality, all me and my girl got from splitting it was a decent rush and kind of high for 1 and a half hours or so...for 15 bucks Im not too upset...but I realize I really don't wanna go down that road anymore...Ive been smoking that good cali medical bud out here and I think I'm gonna quit drinking and taper off the sub and just switch to weed....

My girlfriend has to work on Saturday and this Jamaican mechanic here in Oakland is fixing my rear brakes...Here's hopin I can make it through the mountain passes on the way back without a problem!

Hope you guys are all well....

shimazu
12-09-2013, 07:34
same to you BluesHues, same to you

Mr.Scagnattie
12-09-2013, 14:52
whats up guys?

I took a road trip out to Cali and it's been a nightmare, my car has broken down three times!

I'm in Oakland right now and today I actually got randomly offered Tar on the streets...My car is in the shop and my friend I was staying with was on the other side of town....I bought a good size little chunk that looked like a lump of coal for 15 bucks but between the sub Ive been taking and the mediocre quality, all me and my girl got from splitting it was a decent rush and kind of high for 1 and a half hours or so...for 15 bucks Im not too upset...but I realize I really don't wanna go down that road anymore...Ive been smoking that good cali medical bud out here and I think I'm gonna quit drinking and taper off the sub and just switch to weed....

My girlfriend has to work on Saturday and this Jamaican mechanic here in Oakland is fixing my rear brakes...Here's hopin I can make it through the mountain passes on the way back without a problem!

Hope you guys are all well....

Why the trip out there? Just felt like going?

chefman
12-09-2013, 16:49
Im in San Diego,visiting the ship my dad served on the Uss Midway,love military history,and most importantly my dad is having good time!!

nowdubnvr6
13-09-2013, 04:07
allright so ive been on a bit of a binge the last couple weeks. So normally I get this awesome grey/beige powder but my dude i guess got locked up yesterday for failing a piss test. So i ride over to his house and knock on the door and his brother's home and i ask yo where is dude at? locked up he says and i ask if he has anything left. and he says no but that he has some tar. So i decide to try it out and for a little cheaper i was down. Turns out its pretty good.

I just think its crazy how i never had a connect in arkansas and its way bigger but i have connects for both kinds up here in small ass montana.

JunkieDays
13-09-2013, 05:30
The shit I've been copping recently has been giving me a headache after about 3 hours in. Not sure if it's the cut or what.
So I switched sets and the stuff I'm coppin' now is a fine grey/beige powder and has a decent high.
Welp... I'll be able to cop in the next 12-15 hours... Hopefully by vehicle... I hate walking in the hood. I went cold turkey today, and the w/d isn't even half as bad as I expected it to be.
Which is good, because I'm going to have to quit soon to pass this probation DT. & Speaking of the drug test... I don't know, part of me wants to just quit right now.. but I know that when tomorrow comes all that's going to be on my mind is 'dope, dope, dope' I mean, I still have plenty of time to quit, and I know 1 bag isn't going to cause my W/D's to be any worse.. but damn.. I've been watching Drugs Inc. all day, and everytime this show comes on it's a guarantee I'll be copping tomorrow... ffs.


BTW - I've never had the chance to try 'BTH', only ECP. However, a friend of mine went to.. North Carolina and tried tar for her first time. Said it was crap, but knowing her, she probably copped some doo-doo.
How does BTH compare to ECP?

cj
13-09-2013, 06:33
^^^
I got to try some tar from san Antonio TX a couple months ago. I got a gram. Which ended up being 3 decent shots. Which price wise is a better deal than the (heavily stepped on I would imagine) Grey to brownish ECP I get around here. I noticed the tar had a bigger histamine reaction than I was used too but otherwise I couldn't tell much differance

tomatalli
14-09-2013, 00:50
Is there a way to lower tolerance? I kinda went all out yesterday becaus i had alot of dope and was high from midnight to midnight and fucked up my toleranxe. I wanna know if its possible to lower it without taking a break cus thats not really an optipn for me, whats worked for you guys?

LSDiesel
14-09-2013, 06:23
dope tolerance creeps up on you. You really can't reset your tolerance unless you take a break or lower your doses. you could also try switching to oxy or kratom or codeine etc, but nothing will work the fastest except abstinence. 3 days of abstinence for me pretty much resets my tolerance, but it's hard to put three days together free of opiates, i KNOW!

More extreme options like taking naloxone or even a microdose of bupe to clear all full agonists out of you, but in the theme of Harm Reduction I would advise against using naloxone or bupe when there are sill full agonist opiates in your system. This won't exactly lower you tolerance either, but it would speed up the process somewhat.

BlueHues
14-09-2013, 13:22
Why the trip out there? Just felt like going?

^My girlfriend had vacation time she needed to use, I don't have a steady job right now and I wanted to get the fuck out of Nebraska for awhile....She's never been to California and she wanted to see the west coast...I moved out to Oakland about 8 years ago and have probably spent around a year and a half altogether living in that area since I first went there... Also, one of my best friends from the east coast has lived out there for years.

We only had 11 days so I knew it was gonna be a lot of driving and probably be about $5-600 in gas round trip...Colorado is only 6 hours away and has a lot of the same shit California does if you don't count the ocean, so I kind of wanted to just go there instead. With all the flooding, I guess I'm glad we went to Cali! I wanted to avoid crazy mountain driving as much as possible anyway because I knew there was a good chance something on my car would go, but there's really no way to get out there without going through a fuck-load of mountains! People native to the west will do 90 down a big-ass mountain in a rainstorm with a 500 foot drop-off right beyond the guardrail without even thinking about it...... but when you're not used to it it will scare the shit out of you!

Tar heroin can be really fucking good to where a .1 will fucking rock ya, but it varies just as much as the ecp....The shit I had a few days ago looked and felt just like a little piece of brown hard candy, like a root beer barrel...This stuff was really average, but I should have just bought 2 $15 pieces instead of one...the guy selling it had little tiny bags of powder coke too...It used to be a big bay area street drug thing to sell a single shot of dope and coke together at the same time, they call it a "one and one". I have friends that were out there in the '90s who used to tell me stories about it and I think that's what this guy was trying to sell me, but I wasn't lookin' to bang coke....that day!
I was just walking right down a normal main street that wasn't even ghetto and this black dude just says "Hey how you doin today? Got that black"....I wasn't expecting it at all, just goes to show how a good dealer can spot a junkie I guess, and I hadn't even shot dope for over 6 months!

@Chefman, glad you're doin something real with your dad and having a good time!

chefman
14-09-2013, 15:34
Hey,thanks man,hes walkin on air!

bukweat
14-09-2013, 19:10
Man I love ship and sub museums. It's great to hear whenever anyone has the parents still and doin just anything with my Pop would be a trip. he was all old school and a stand up dude, had a hard life w/few breaks and never heard him complain. A dude I got high with was a submariner batshit crazy but a good ass dude. I did 8 years total in the Army It just lost the luster after nco school. When I got my first hard stripe it put me in the middle still in the barracks and expected to be in charge of all my buds, Anyway shit, Hell yeah it's great to hear Chefman. I bet his chest is out to here.....................

Tommyboy
14-09-2013, 21:25
Is there a way to lower tolerance? I kinda went all out yesterday becaus i had alot of dope and was high from midnight to midnight and fucked up my toleranxe. I wanna know if its possible to lower it without taking a break cus thats not really an optipn for me, whats worked for you guys?

I think everyone is looking for that. :\


dope tolerance creeps up on you. You really can't reset your tolerance unless you take a break or lower your doses. you could also try switching to oxy or kratom or codeine etc, but nothing will work the fastest except abstinence. 3 days of abstinence for me pretty much resets my tolerance, but it's hard to put three days together free of opiates, i KNOW!

More extreme options like taking naloxone or even a microdose of bupe to clear all full agonists out of you, but in the theme of Harm Reduction I would advise against using naloxone or bupe when there are sill full agonist opiates in your system. This won't exactly lower you tolerance either, but it would speed up the process somewhat.

It's actually ultra-low doses of naltrexone that people use for it, and it's not enough to knock the other opioids off the receptors. I'm not sure how it works, but it's taken regularly and perhaps doesn't lower tolerance, but keeps it from increasing as fast as usual.

chefman
15-09-2013, 01:02
It sure is buckwheat,The Miday is havin its renuion this week so i heard alot of cool.storys thanks man!!

Mr.Scagnattie
15-09-2013, 04:36
Is there a way to lower tolerance? I kinda went all out yesterday becaus i had alot of dope and was high from midnight to midnight and fucked up my toleranxe. I wanna know if its possible to lower it without taking a break cus thats not really an optipn for me, whats worked for you guys?

There really isn't anyway besides taking a break. I mean, you don't have to stop using totally, just start cutting back, letting yourself stay sicker for longer before using, etc... your tolerance won't go down as fast as if you quit for a while, but by forcing yourself to do less and less, take a day of being dope sick then do a smaller shot when you go back to using, you can get it down.

RaZkaL86
15-09-2013, 15:37
Yeah, for me the only way to lower your tolerance is to go sick as long as you can stand it...but it helps when you know you have a little something set aside to get off "E"...

jeebis
16-09-2013, 05:24
So I decided to binge today since I start vivitrol this week. Since last night (like 3 am today) I've done 1.2 gs dope, 5.25mg Klonopin, .5g Molly, 80mg adderall, drank, and 20mg methadone. That's a hell of a relapse.

God I hate myself

Tommyboy
16-09-2013, 05:37
So I decided to binge today since I start vivitrol this week. Since last night (like 3 am today) I've done 1.2 gs dope, 5.25mg Klonopin, .5g Molly, 80mg adderall, drank, and 20mg methadone. That's a hell of a relapse.

God I hate myself

Dude, you know you need to be clean from opiates for a good week before starting vivitrol right? I was clean and through withdrawals when I started and it still causes precipitated withdrawals, so you might want to put it off until next week. I've read other stories of people only waiting 6-7 days and getting sick after the shot, so it wasn't just me. And I didn't really have a habit at the time, and just messed around a little with a few mgs of subs, then took 5 days off and it wasn't enough. To be completely safe I think they say to wait 10 days.

BlueHues
16-09-2013, 06:14
^I never knew you were on vivitrol, this was a long time ago before you were really heavy into it?

Jeebis I respect you wanting to do the right thing but I've heard of naltrexone having weird side effects in some people, it also ruins drinking...just in case you were planning on still drinking and only quitting opiates.

Tommyboy
16-09-2013, 06:19
^I never knew you were on vivitrol, this was a long time ago before you were really heavy into it?

Jeebis I respect you wanting to do the right thing but I've heard of naltrexone having weird side effects in some people, it also ruins drinking...just in case you were planning on still drinking and only quitting opiates.

I'm not. I was going to start on the naltrexone pills a month ago but after taking the first one and being sick for 3+ days I decided against continuing with it.

cj
16-09-2013, 07:45
Vivitrol sounds like torture to me. I would do Methadone way way before I resorted to that. Fuck honestly there I no way I would ever do that.


Well I am officially coming out of retirement I think. I met this connection and I need a break from sub anyway. Its weird I don't really hate myself for this bad decision. I know I am going to lose a lot of what I have worked for and suffer shit loads of physical and emotional pain. Yet I choose to continue anyway. What a fucking life huh? Its not glamorous but it helps me cope. I really hope at the end of all this I write some amazing screenplay that really captures what this all meant. That I find some meaning from all this bullshit. But I don't see it happening. Thankfully I don't have any kids. Just parents and family who will never understand to disappoint.

It could be worse I have been reading these military history books from the second world war. Talk about suffering some of the shit is just unimaginable. Like this one battle between the soviets and Nazis in the Hungarian capital of Budapest. like 80,000 germans mostly SS are surrounded in the city. Very few of them ever made it home like under 500. Most of those kids where just in the wrong country at the wrong time. Such is the breaks I guess. Some of us are born into comfortable middle class existence in a fairly wealthy country. Some people are born with HIV in Somalia. I don't get it.

chefman
16-09-2013, 19:30
Why dont you u just use occaisionally

Welderman
16-09-2013, 19:46
Vivitrol sounds like torture to me. I would do Methadone way way before I resorted to that. Fuck honestly there I no way I would ever do that.


Well I am officially coming out of retirement I think. I met this connection and I need a break from sub anyway. Its weird I don't really hate myself for this bad decision. I know I am going to lose a lot of what I have worked for and suffer shit loads of physical and emotional pain. Yet I choose to continue anyway. What a fucking life huh? Its not glamorous but it helps me cope. I really hope at the end of all this I write some amazing screenplay that really captures what this all meant. That I find some meaning from all this bullshit. But I don't see it happening. Thankfully I don't have any kids. Just parents and family who will never understand to disappoint.

It could be worse I have been reading these military history books from the second world war. Talk about suffering some of the shit is just unimaginable. Like this one battle between the soviets and Nazis in the Hungarian capital of Budapest. like 80,000 germans mostly SS are surrounded in the city. Very few of them ever made it home like under 500. Most of those kids where just in the wrong country at the wrong time. Such is the breaks I guess. Some of us are born into comfortable middle class existence in a fairly wealthy country. Some people are born with HIV in Somalia. I don't get it.
I love books on war. Six silent men is very good it's about the lrrp in Vietnam I think there is 3 books in the series all true written by the men in the books. Another one is called SOG.

Tommyboy
16-09-2013, 20:14
Why dont you u just use occaisionally

Is this a joke?

LSDiesel
16-09-2013, 20:29
How does BTH compare to ECP?

I've never done BTH, only the chalky columbian ECP. However, I have looked at tons of posts about the differences between the two.

Assuming you can score fire ECP, and fire BTH, the only difference really is that BTH has 6-MAM and maybe even other active substances that add to the high, creating a "dirtier" high, but some may prefer it.

Again, it's highly subjective, some people prefer when opiates knock them out and others get stimulated, so what is a side effect to one person may be an attribute to another.

Another memorable quote I heard was that ECP has a more "medicinal" feel to it, closer to pharmaceuticals and BTH is much more of a "get you fucked up" street drug.

That pretty much sums up what most people would probably tell ya.

There's good and bad ECP and BTH.

It may be easier to tell if the dope is good by appearance with BTH than ECP. I've read in numerous posts that very pure BTH is slightly translucent. Is this a guarantee? Has anyone who does BTH ever come across translucent BTH that wasn't fire?

If that is the case, then BTH does have a leg up on ECP which can have powdered milk in it and you wouldn't notice until ingestion, so you can't gauge purity by looking at ECP alone.

Oh, and lastly, I should point out ECP seems to be much healthier to shoot, and while both are made in illegal laboratories that I'm sure are gross, BTH is just so crude that it has lots of extra undesirables in it as well as a few desireables :)

BlueHues
16-09-2013, 20:51
You can get burnt on tar just as easily as ECP. In a lot of places in Cali it comes double bagged in plastic and then tied off in a balloon, so unless you cut the thing open you have no idea. People sometimes will just hand you a chunk of it too and you can tell by just smelling it or giving it a quick taste whether it's real or not.

when I bought that chunk of tar in Oakland 4 or 5 days ago I definitely thought of BL. I was on foot in a really built up area in broad daylight with nowhere to hide. I finally found some bushes to go fix up behind. Of course, I had to buy a pack of needles from a drugstore, find some cottons etc.

I decided to put the "no heat" thing to the test...I used the bottom of a soda can as a cooker while my girl kept the lookout. At first I just threw the chunk of dope on there and put water on it. I started poking and pressing on it trying to get it to break up and dissolve. After two minutes of fucking around, some of it did start to dissolve but the majority of the rock was just sitting there in the water. It would have eventually dissolved with no heat but I didn't have the time to wait in that situation. Even with heat it was a pain in the ass! This was a hard as a rock chunk though...sometimes tar is a little softer and easier to work with, and I have had stuff that dissolved easily in water...

My conclusion is that hot, non boiling water is the best thing to use for tar if it's the really rocky shit.

cj
17-09-2013, 05:05
Why dont you u just use occaisionally

If only I could

Mr.Scagnattie
17-09-2013, 15:22
I've done some good tar but I'd say as a whole, ECP is much better than tar. It's just purer.

Of course there is good and bad with everything but batch for batch... ECP is pretty much always going to be stronger than tar.

Whenever my buddies from LA come to NY they always want to stock up and bring back dope because it's notoriously better.

tomatalli
20-09-2013, 05:22
Is there any long term affects of snorting heroin? I notice my nose is starting to bleed alot, im probably going to switch to IV

JunkieDays
20-09-2013, 05:35
Is there any long term affects of snorting heroin? I notice my nose is starting to bleed alot, im probably going to switch to IV

Of course there is.
I'm pretty sure snorting causes the membranes or lining in your nose to start degrading, but replacing that with IV is like saying you don't drink soda because you want to be healthy, and then you go outside to promptly smoke a cigarette afterwards. lol
There's always going to be risks involved with administering drugs. No matter what type of drug it is. Unless it's edible marijuana. Then you're good, man.

tomatalli
20-09-2013, 18:48
Im not switching to iv to be safer. I just cant really get high from
Snorting anymore unless i do a ridiculous amount and my nose keeps bleeding lately and I dont wanna get clean

LSDiesel
21-09-2013, 04:10
I really am not sure how long I can sustain this, but I have found alot of success with loperamide in terms of reducing my dope intake.

I admit to still 'rippin and runnin' on the weekends, but during the week, I take loperamide. I have found myself taking over 100mg in 24 hours before. Generally it takes well over 100mg for me to feel CNS activity and a dirty loperamide high, that is very sloppy and sedative.

I generally take something like 40-50mg before bed, and I never wake up sick. In the morning depending on how I feel, I might redose anywhere between 5mg to 50mg in the morning.
This stuff either blocks other opiates or increases tolerance or both, because I need alot more dope to feel my shots.

However, I feel very stable and dope is becoming less and less enjoyable. I have definitely cut back my consumption a lot. It almost seems like loperamide is simiilar to methadone in that manner. I don't really feel like I am on an opiate unless I smoke some weed.

jeebis
21-09-2013, 10:10
Ahhhh fuck. And I relapsed. Long story short I ended up with 8 bags of crazy good dope, 2 gs of fire coke, 21gs of some medical bud, and 120mg adderall so I sorta locked myself in my room and binged. Made a bunch of Kandi bracelets for no reason

Welderman
21-09-2013, 11:18
Ahhhh fuck. And I relapsed. Long story short I ended up with 8 bags of crazy good dope, 2 gs of fire coke, 21gs of some medical bud, and 120mg adderall so I sorta locked myself in my room and binged. Made a bunch of Kandi bracelets for no reason

That is a bummer that you relapsed man it is part of the proces. Sadly it happens to most of us.
You don't fuck around though when you do.

jeebis
21-09-2013, 12:23
Well you know me from when I was a serious user. I've even posted pictures and shit to back up the stories.

But this is kinda scary how I just sorta snapped when I had it all literally just fall into my lap like it did. I have the worst best luck with drugs. It's one of the three things I'm good at (sex, drugs, and paintball lol.clearly I'm sort of joking) but I'm fortunate to have the connects that I do so that I can always get the absolute best quality shenanigans for dirt cheap...if not free.

This fucks me when I'm trying to get away from all that. I need to just smoke bud. That's it. The struggle, man.

noddinluvz
21-09-2013, 15:14
Ahh TommyBoy ..isnt that always how it goes....we gettin so frustrated and cant wait anymore then cave and buy the shittier stuff....then of course hours later the good stuff will be available..! #Fuckery

dpt58jnj
21-09-2013, 15:59
Wow, that's some relapse. surprised you didn't OD. Good luck.

Welderman
21-09-2013, 20:16
Well you know me from when I was a serious user. I've even posted pictures and shit to back up the stories.

But this is kinda scary how I just sorta snapped when I had it all literally just fall into my lap like it did. I have the worst best luck with drugs. It's one of the three things I'm good at (sex, drugs, and paintball lol.clearly I'm sort of joking) but I'm fortunate to have the connects that I do so that I can always get the absolute best quality shenanigans for dirt cheap...if not free.

This fucks me when I'm trying to get away from all that. I need to just smoke bud. That's it. The struggle, man.
I like paintball too. It would be a blast to get together and get loaded on one of your dope/coke/adderall/acid/oxy and booze combos. We would be unstoppable total scorched earth style play. Lol

Having great connections is always good till you are trying to stay clean.

Mr.Scagnattie
21-09-2013, 22:50
Ahhhh fuck. And I relapsed. Long story short I ended up with 8 bags of crazy good dope, 2 gs of fire coke, 21gs of some medical bud, and 120mg adderall so I sorta locked myself in my room and binged. Made a bunch of Kandi bracelets for no reason

Happens to the best of us, man. You just gatta keep going forward.

tomatalli
22-09-2013, 01:31
Got six tester bahs from a dude who gave me his number when i was out gettin shit from my boy in the hood. Shit is fire and he generously gave me 6 tester bags, its always a great day when you get free dope. Also when i woke up today i found a bag in my room when i thought i had none left.

Mr.Scagnattie
22-09-2013, 05:55
Also when i woke up today i found a bag in my room when i thought i had none left.

Ahh, that's a sweet feeling. I recently found an entire bundle that had fallen behind my desk. ;)

BlueHues
22-09-2013, 05:59
^That's fucking awesome though! Was it good shit? How long do you think it was there for? /you must have been doing a lot of shit when you lost it, because unless I was on a major run, I wouldn't forget about a bundle! I almost always know how much dope I have left at any given time....

Welderman
22-09-2013, 06:10
^That's fucking awesome though! Was it good shit? How long do you think it was there for? /you must have been doing a lot of shit when you lost it, because unless I was on a major run, I wouldn't forget about a bundle! I almost always know how much dope I have left at any given time....

Ain't that the truth it's like you have each pack timed out when you will do it.

JunkieDays
22-09-2013, 08:24
When I copped bundles I'd sometimes take a bag out and hide it in my room. It's a good idea if you have problems saving dope.

axl blaze
22-09-2013, 11:27
there's another "how does BTH compare to ECP" question...

first off, I'm notorious around here for sticking up for and praising the Industrial Midwest's BTH. I've lived in Boston and spent many stints all around the NYC/NJ area, then up and down the Eastern Seaboard (thanks to being a semi-pro musician ;))

ECP is def good shit, when you get that FIRE. but due to the nature of street copping like on the East Coast (and even Chi), I've gotten burned once or twice, mediocre product a couple times, and same damn fine ECP at other times (specially when I could establish myself as I did when I lived in Boston for a bit)...

however this BTH here is balls to the walls amazing, and I wouldn't trade a G of ECP for a 3/4 of a G of this BTH...

also, I noticed unlike the BTH that looks like a sloppy mess in the South (NC + Tenn, etc) and the Midwest (Oklahoma, Texas) and even Cali - this stuff just looks so much more clean

and here is something that I have not seen written down here concerning BTH. if you get the BTH here without it being passed through so many hands (ie: cut), then your BTH actually looks and has the consistency of powder. it's strange. it will be all powdery, until you start moving around the product with anything but a knife or utensil, and use your hand. then it starts to tar up like normal BTH. also, breathing on the product heavily or leaving the product in a bag that was not sealed will also tar up this BTH to that normal, stereotypical, look and feel...

so any other BLers cop BTH like that? it's been like that for a couple years here now, and when the BTH starts off in your hand as that light brown powder then the guy is usually happy because it means that the product is fire. strange, huh?

I have a feeling this is the main reason as to why I think my area's BTH is so much superior than that other messy, soupy, junky BTH that is normally thought of...



here's a pic, not really the best pic because the baggy was a weird, heavy and translucent blue. but this pic serves a good purpose in showing how this BTH looks nothing like the normal BTH out there. most would just assume this is a baggy of ECP:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/axlblaze/BTH_zps1616f9eb.jpg


and here is a pic illustrating the two different physical make-ups of this BTH. on the left and on the little piece of paper is the same BTH but I breathed heavily on it to tar it up. and on the right is a knife point's worth of some BTH right outta the bag. notice the huge difference?

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u55/axlblaze/BTH1_zps05852a56.jpg

Mr.Scagnattie
22-09-2013, 13:20
^That's fucking awesome though! Was it good shit? How long do you think it was there for? /you must have been doing a lot of shit when you lost it, because unless I was on a major run, I wouldn't forget about a bundle! I almost always know how much dope I have left at any given time....

Yeah I was on a pretty heavy run. I had a lot of money so I was doing a couple bundles a day and buying 5 or 6 at a time. From the stamp, it was probably only there for a week or so. Not the first time it happened either. You just get really blasted and drop shit, then nod off and forget about it ever happening, hah.

BlueHues
22-09-2013, 21:11
^Yeah when you're goin hard like that and doin 5-10 bag shots with coke when you're already high, it's possible to misplace a bundle! I actually found one in my car once! and here I was scared to death of being pulled over and making sure I didn't leave anything in there...went to clean out all the cups and bags that accumulated over a month or so and...boom! A bundle falls out from the edge of the seat. I had copped 2 bricks and stopped and shot 8 bags and my girlfriend did 4 so I think I mustve lost track of the second bundle I broke into or something...

The way I used to do dope with my girlfriend and my friend, we'd just put all the dope and coke right on the table and grab what we needed over the course of the night, so nobody really knew how much was left. We'd pretty much just yell out, "Hey I'm doin 3 of these, there's about 3 bundles left" kind of thing... Sometimes I'd mix up a few bags and put it in a rig for the morning and forget about it and find it a few days later, that was actually more common for me than losing bags....not a good idea to shoot it after that long, but if I'm sick...well we all know what happens in that case!

Tommyboy
23-09-2013, 03:21
I really am not sure how long I can sustain this, but I have found alot of success with loperamide in terms of reducing my dope intake.

I admit to still 'rippin and runnin' on the weekends, but during the week, I take loperamide. I have found myself taking over 100mg in 24 hours before. Generally it takes well over 100mg for me to feel CNS activity and a dirty loperamide high, that is very sloppy and sedative.

I generally take something like 40-50mg before bed, and I never wake up sick. In the morning depending on how I feel, I might redose anywhere between 5mg to 50mg in the morning.
This stuff either blocks other opiates or increases tolerance or both, because I need alot more dope to feel my shots.

However, I feel very stable and dope is becoming less and less enjoyable. I have definitely cut back my consumption a lot. It almost seems like loperamide is simiilar to methadone in that manner. I don't really feel like I am on an opiate unless I smoke some weed.

Be careful taking that much loperamide. There was a thread a month or so ago in the Other Drugs in which some guy was praising the ability of loperamide to help with detoxing off of opiates/opioids. Then a week later he came back to the thread to warn everybody about using high doses of lope because he ended up in the ER with fecal impaction. I forgot what dose he was using, but I think it was under 100, so be careful.

JunkieDays
23-09-2013, 06:44
Just for those who do not know what FI is...

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f10/109734d1260216505-fecal-impaction-attached-file.jpg

Enjoy!