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chinky
28-08-2013, 02:36
i love baltimore dope. been doing speedballs since 6am. my one coke vial is almost gone (ill save a nice bump for the am) but i got 5 vials left of raw so im straight. also got a sub strip which ill need cuz my parents wanna start drug testing me. its good cuz i really gotta stop my habit, save money, get a car etc and maybe this will be a little kick in the ass to help me. its not the only thing thats gonna help cuz eventually ill be on my own anyways.

fuck. i feel awesome

i wanna know why yall sell your shit in vials?..i remeber on the wire they sold them that way and i just thought it was for entertainment purposes, but ive seen numerous things and its always vials..it just seems like a dumb thing to package them in cause for one they cant be that cheap compare dto little baggies or foil or capsules any other way of packaging.also you cant really hide them if the cops pull you over or you get stopped by them, i guess you can swallow one but what if you got 5 on you?

i mean i understand why they use foil here and thats because a roll of it that you got for 1$ at the dollar store can packege you up thousands of "bags"..but glass vial you gotta figure to be what .10-.25cents each(maybe? i really dont know) that will add up quickly and cut deep into your profit

so why do yall package your dope that way?

Johnny blue
28-08-2013, 02:36
Ya right now a UK pound is worth 1.55$ USD.

Welderman
28-08-2013, 04:15
i dont have a heroin addiction I have a drug addiction

heroin just happens to be the best value

That sums it up pretty good.

chinky
28-08-2013, 06:16
yeah JB.. i didnyt look it up but thats usually where its at against our dollar..

we used to be like thatr with canada..i remember when a dollar here was worth 1.50$ in canada back in the mid 1990s bc that was the reason why we went there on vacation..my mom was a single parent with 3kids andso using her head, she and my grandma took us to toronto on the suggestion of my uncle who would go up there everyear to fish for muskie. we stopped at family in detroit on the way there and back for the night each way but really the only reason why we went was because my uncle flat out said "100$ here is worth $150 there" i remember my uncle promising it was something like that and that it would be well worth it and that we will be able to do and see and buy more things because its just cheaper.. the only thing was i dont know what my mom was expecting cause it wasnt the best trip we ever had. it was a huge city and not my moms style for vacations,it was a very metropolitan trip and i dont know if she was thinking "its canada, its prolly like wyoming" or something, you know like some smallish country like type town and not a city like chicago. we hit the zoo and some museums but it wasnt the slow paced make no plans type of trip that my mom prefers, and it was the only trip we had growing up that was to a "big city" and im pretty sure we came home early from it. theer wasnt really the internet yet so you cant look everything up online liek you can now. i remeber my mom telling me why she took us to canada that one time and she said "your uncle suggested something new instead of going back to tennessee and when he said "you can go and spend 100bucks and get a hotel room for the night or you can go check out canada where that same 100$ gets you a hotel room plus a trip to the zoo and then dinner" and being a single mom that extra 50bucks is really important. we went to gatlinburg i think 7x in 10years, maybe more i dont even know cause they all kind of blend together but thats bc we had a football tournemnt over thanksgiving and me and my brother played and my sister who is between my brother and I in age was a cheerleader..so i went twice for football and so did my brother and my sister went once as a cheeleader and then we went there to vacation cause ther eis so mucb to do and bc with football thats all it really was, football and then the go carts. gatlinburg is like the wisconsin dells of the south except bigger and with mnuxh more to do cause not only is it a giant dells, theres also dollywood (a mini great america owned by dolly parton) and the great smokey mountains. thats why we went so much cause there was just so much to do an that area.

i will say if youre from chicago and you have never been to the dells youre either really sheltered and i feel sorry for you, maybe you kinda poor and your family couldnt afford it, which is fine and understandable or you grew up very rich and didnt have to settle for something like the dells. by that i mean if you have money and you can jump on a plane at 6am and be in disney by noon...and i say that specifically cause thats a true story, a freind of mines family tradition for 10th bdays. millionaires of course but i guess his grandpa did that when his dad turned 10 as a suprise cause i guess as a kid he always wanted to go to disneyland but thats inb cali and when disney world opened in florida in the early 70s it was just a much easier trip and plus at 10 your not really a little kid anymore and you can behave normally and actually remember the trip and appreciate the suprise that it was. so thats what his dad did with his kids too cause it was the best thing that happened to him in his childhood. i only found out about this cause i was friends with him when his little sister turned 10 and she was able to bring along a friend and their mom went and we threw a huge party. his brother was supposed to be at the house watching us but he stayed at his apt in the cityand we had the place to ourselves that was one of our first epic parties cause we all had girlfriends and hes gota huge house with an inground pool that won city awards for best pool and landscape and the water changed 3different colors and it was just one of the first times the 5 of us all crashed for the entire weekend with our girlfriends without going home and it felt like we where adults with our own house and wives and they cooked us dinner each night and it was just perfect for the time, and we all became better friends after that.

whats fucked up is his little sister is like 21-22now and fine as hell, like for real she aint so little anymore. but anyways even though they fly to florida for weekend trips to disney like it was an hour drive like its great america, i still think they have been to the dells once or twice bc its just so close and its just the chicago thing to do over extended weekends. you can get there in 3hours so its just a great weekend destination for chicagoans with tons of water parks especially the god sent indoor ones ( there is nothing better then an 80degree indoor water park when theres a foot of snow on the ground in the middle of january) and go carts and just about every other carnival type rides and games and just so much more cause its a whole town not just an amuzement park, its an amusement town and so you can do a whole lot in the course of a weekend and then be able to drive home on monday..my mom would always take mondyas off instead of fridays like most people so we would get that extra day at the water park or wherever we were at and basically have the place to ourselves..she hated the fact of sitting in traffic on the way home from a little vacation plus its easier to keep track of 3kids when theres 2/3 less people around then the day before. so instead of checking out and coming home on sunday witheveryone else, we did that on mondays. everyx christmas break after xmas we would go and hit up the indoor waterparks and then at least once in the summer we would go and hit the outdoor ones. its the best when you stay at the hotel that the water park is located cause you can go in for free and my mom could go back to the room and take a nap and leave us there or we where able to go multiple times in a day cause why come back from dinner and mini golf and just sit around watchiung tv the rest of the night when you can take your book and let the kids run around and tire themselves out for a couple hours.

smokemctoke420
28-08-2013, 11:51
i wanna know why yall sell your shit in vials?..i remeber on the wire they sold them that way and i just thought it was for entertainment purposes, but ive seen numerous things and its always vials..it just seems like a dumb thing to package them in cause for one they cant be that cheap compare dto little baggies or foil or capsules any other way of packaging.also you cant really hide them if the cops pull you over or you get stopped by them, i guess you can swallow one but what if you got 5 on you?

i mean i understand why they use foil here and thats because a roll of it that you got for 1$ at the dollar store can packege you up thousands of "bags"..but glass vial you gotta figure to be what .10-.25cents each(maybe? i really dont know) that will add up quickly and cut deep into your profit

so why do yall package your dope that way?
To be honest man, idk. I didn't start dope till I moved to delaware but I can get baltimore raw and coke when my boy goes to the city. I know in delaware I've never ever seen vials, maybe Wilmington has em but if that's the case then it must be a city thing.

The other when my boy copped he got vials of raw that wasn't gray chunks like last time but it was banging. He also got a 50 bag of raw and my buddys girl, who snorts and has a medium tolerance, fell out when they got home and she had a bigger line. Like his girl had the couch holding her up, couldn't talk. She had the dope fiend lean going. He shot her up with coke (very little) instead if the bupe strip he had. I was like wtf dude? Should have shot her with a piece of strip. "She would have w/d". I was like yeah I know but she basically went out smh

Shit was damn good either way. But to answer your question, chinks, idk why they come in vials. Sorry buddy

Oh and check this site out. It's mostly baltimore And streets that I was families with (2 near my house and the rest I heard of). There's some different ones to tho


http://thatguysonheroin.com/

djtiesto83187
28-08-2013, 13:46
Those vials are cheap. I remember seeing them at the corner stores. You get 100's for a few bucks. They come in different sizes . One bood thing about em is you can see right inside them so you know if its rocked up raw or scramble. They are actually a cool little dope carrying case i think compared to bags.

JunkieDays
28-08-2013, 15:40
Those vials are cheap. I remember seeing them at the corner stores. You get 100's for a few bucks. They come in different sizes . One bood thing about em is you can see right inside them so you know if its rocked up raw or scramble. They are actually a cool little dope carrying case i think compared to bags.

They're cool looking, for sure.
But when it comes down to it, I'd rather have wax bags, or even better.. balloons.
Idc what my dope comes in as long as I can hide it easily.
I imagine vials would be convenient for buffing.. but, I don't go that route.

Effect
28-08-2013, 20:29
They're cool looking, for sure.
But when it comes down to it, I'd rather have wax bags, or even better.. balloons.
Idc what my dope comes in as long as I can hide it easily.
I imagine vials would be convenient for buffing.. but, I don't go that route.

thats why I've grown to like the easternMass style bags. real easy to swallow or hide if the need arises.

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/7250/imageuec.jpg

throwback from when I got my tax return earlier this year. was a good day...

Mr.Scagnattie
28-08-2013, 22:34
thats why I've grown to like the easternMass style bags. real easy to swallow or hide if the need arises.

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/7250/imageuec.jpg

throwback from when I got my tax return earlier this year. was a good day...

You guys don't get any of the classic stamped wax paper bags taped up?

LSDiesel
29-08-2013, 07:39
so why do yall package your dope that way?

I've never seen dope in vials, where I am it's always wax/glassine stamps. However, when I was buying coke on the street years ago, I saw lots in vials, especially crack. On days when it was sunny and dry, the coke was in those dime baggies with the little seal at the top like a miniature sandwich bag, but on rainy/snowy/humid days the coke was in vials to prevent moisture from fucking up the drugs. The dealers would often hide stashes in overgrown foliage/grass and that would definitely be prone to moisture damage.

Crack makes sense because the vial allows for retail size storage of crack rocks, unlike powder which can be flattened in a bag.

Do people really sell boy in cylindrical glass vials?

Mr.Scagnattie
29-08-2013, 15:50
I've never seen dope sold in glass vials in NY. Not even once. Coke is sold that way a lot but never smack.

BlueHues
29-08-2013, 16:10
I've never even seen in that way in Baltimore...I got it in caps there the handful of times I used to get it on the drive to and from Florida...

I remember seeing the vials on the sidewalk in NYC in the '90s, but I've never actually ever bought or been with anyone who had "vials"....Do they even still sell crack that way Scagnattie in NYC?

smokemctoke420
29-08-2013, 16:22
Your caps are scramble tho, right? i mean I guess they got caps if raw

My boy got vials the last 2 times. The vial looked just like this pic I'm gonna put up. It wasn't chunky gray but more like a whiteish powder with really small chunks. Was good but not the best raw out that day.

Anyways here's the last pic. Btw the coke was in red top vials and was good! I should be getting more of each Saturday so if I do ill throw up a pic and compare

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa426/smokemctoke420/EC07645E-5D73-4C29-BD82-377989D09AF7-2914-000002F353A47C98_zps57d2aeae.jpg

BlueHues
29-08-2013, 17:32
^Yeah, it wasn't "rocks", but they were good! they were big and it usually all broke down....even if there's cut on it and it's cut in half %50, if the original dope that's in it was fire, it's still good!

Mr.Scagnattie
29-08-2013, 18:47
I've never even seen in that way in Baltimore...I got it in caps there the handful of times I used to get it on the drive to and from Florida...

I remember seeing the vials on the sidewalk in NYC in the '90s, but I've never actually ever bought or been with anyone who had "vials"....Do they even still sell crack that way Scagnattie in NYC?

Yeah in some parts of the city. Also powder in the vials. Matter of fact, some of the strongest coke I've ever gotten in the city has come out of a vial.

A lot of the delivery service dealers use the pink and black capped glass vials.

Mr.Scagnattie
29-08-2013, 23:49
^^

Cotton shots definitely work, especially if like you said you have a lot and they haven't been rinsed yet.

But you also run the risk of cotton fever doing that.

Don't ever pound out a cotton/set of cottons more the once. As the continue to get wet then dry, wet then dry, etc, they start to degrade and it becomes a lot easier for you to get bacteria from them in your shot, leading to a hellish experience.

axl blaze
30-08-2013, 00:16
yeah be careful with all them cottons. I mean, I also take advantage of the benefits of washes - and I don't know of any user who doesn't - but be wary

especially disconcerting is imagining all them cottons stored together the way you described them. anything that has been exposed to water and then set aside, like your cottons, exponentially grows bacteria at a sickening rate. srsly, look that ahit up bro. and then take in the fact that you have about 30+ damp, wet cottons all simmering together in a moist or damp place - sounds like an orgy for bacteria!

sounds like you have never been bittwn by the cotton fever bug. while not life endangering, you usually feel like dying, while shaking more spastically than an epileptic stripper! cotton fever is a cruel, cruel mistress so be mindful or your cotton storage mang

Mr.Scagnattie
30-08-2013, 01:52
^^


Yeah make sure you store your cottons in a cool, dry, place.

Welderman
30-08-2013, 03:59
^ I would think that heating the solution would further promote bacteria growth. Think about it how long do you have to boil water to make it potable when there is a boil water alert after a water main break. I'm pretty sure it is at least 10 min. And that is to drink it. I don't think you could boil it long enough to be safe for injection without destroying the dope.

saramajara
30-08-2013, 19:48
ugh... heres the deal...



scramble comes in capsules. like gel caps. same thing they put herbal supplements in. and its not straight dope, its mixed with a whole bunch of unknown shit that usually gives you a good rush, but you wouldnt wanna snort it.
raw usually comes in a paper fold or less commonly a baggie, and occasionally a vial. i dont trust that vial dope, its hard to get out, and usually its coke dealers sellin dope on the side that use vials cuz thats what coke and ready comes in around here. we rarely get stamp bags like the rest of the east coast... but i dont mind the caps cuz you can tell quality and quantity at a glance.. ive saved myself gettin ripped off several times that way

smokemctoke420
30-08-2013, 20:41
You don't trust the vials? Lmao I definetly do. Where my boy goes for be the dude always has had vials. The dope I've gotten each time, especially the first, has been the best dope I've put in my nose.

Straight up.

saramajara
30-08-2013, 21:01
haha i just dont trust the vials. if im buying raw im buying weight... no one in their right mind is gonna hand me 25 vials. like wtf.. im gonna spend more time scraping that shit out that i am being high

BlueHues
30-08-2013, 21:47
The packaging doesn't usually mean much I've learned, but it is cool when you it comes packaged cool and the product is as good as what it comes in...That's what makes people get all excited about certain stamps etc. that why they started doing that in the first place!

that's what kind of sucks about always getting it in plastic. They can switch batches on you and you have no way of knowing...Well, unless it's a completely different color...

the thing that really pisses me off is when a really good batch of dope comes around, and then the next week you can tell that it's still the same shit but they decided it was good enough to step on! Nothing is more fucking annoying than that because you get used to that certain strength and now you have to buy more just to get the same out of it?! That's one thing that makes me so fucking angry and not wanna fuck with that dealer anymore! You're already making money, leave the dope alone and don't be such a greedy piece of shit!

Some dealers just don't understand that with heroin, somebody who does it everyday can tell the difference immediately if you try to stretch it...but a fuckin amateur dealer thinks they can step on it a little bit and "these fiends won't notice!"...A good dealer knows you can't get away with that shit for long! I'll drop you like a hot potato if you start pullin that shit, and call everyone I know that goes to you and warn them! Within two weeks they'll be calling me up talkin about "I got some new shit!"...I'll give 'em one more chance and try the "new shit", but if that batch is garbage too, I'll take my business elsewhere! That's why, if you do heroin you gotta be prepared to get out there and track down the good dope....People talk about middlemen, some of the dealers suck too! Getting middlemanned by someone with a shitty dealer...that's like a double whammy... Payin tax on garbage!

Mr.Scagnattie
30-08-2013, 22:13
^^

Very true. It's a buyers market and if a dealer is slacking selling shitty stepped on dope, there is no shortage of other ones. That's something like you said, the good ones realize, which is why they always sell good shit and make it right if something is off. They know with the level of competition out there that they can easily be replaced.

These fuckers get this God complex sometimes where they think we need them to live and have no other option. Sorry. You're not the only dude slinging dope. I'll drop you faster than you drop a chic with crabs.

BlueHues
30-08-2013, 23:02
^The way you guys from the city talk, it's sounds like you get those one or two good dealers and their shit stays consistent forever...Up in New England, it seems like even the good ones get handed a shitty batch from time to time, which isn't their fault! Do you always get the same quality or what?

Mr.Scagnattie
30-08-2013, 23:19
^The way you guys from the city talk, it's sounds like you get those one or two good dealers and their shit stays consistent forever...Up in New England, it seems like even the good ones get handed a shitty batch from time to time, which isn't their fault! Do you always get the same quality or what?

I mean, not always but for the most part yeah. If you find a real dealer, a professional, they are very consistent. I'm talking like maybe 1 out of every 100 buys will a batch be a little weaker or something, but sometimes not even. And if that does happen, they immediately fix it.

Welderman
31-08-2013, 02:26
haha i just dont trust the vials. if im buying raw im buying weight... no one in their right mind is gonna hand me 25 vials. like wtf.. im gonna spend more time scraping that shit out that i am being high

One guy I had would always want to give me like 30 packs of dope and tell me I had to wait while he packaged it. I would argue with him sometimes because I wanted it all in one Baggie it was for personal use.

Mr.Scagnattie
31-08-2013, 17:01
Came literally inches from being arrested again yesterday. I mean, cuffed and sitting on the side walk, the whole nine yards. Had I not eaten my shit at the last possible moment, my ass would be back at Rikers for the foreseeable future till they sent me upstate somewhere.

Fuck, it was a jarring experience. Scared the shit out of me thinking about going back to jail. My life literally flashed before my eyes for a second.

So, fuck this shit. I'm over it. Been 13 hours since my last dose and I refuse to cop another single bag. I'm done and I don't care how bad the suboxone transition is.

chefman
31-08-2013, 17:09
Sounds like reality is setting in,tjat shit happens,did you get you gear back up after?

Mr.Scagnattie
31-08-2013, 19:02
Sounds like reality is setting in,tjat shit happens,did you get you gear back up after?

Nah, it was ruined. I just went and copped again immediately. After everything I went through, no way I wasn't; getting high. hah. But now I just know that my time is almost up. If I don't stop I know I'm going down soon.

Welderman
01-09-2013, 05:41
Damn Scagnettie that would scare me straight too. I'm glad you were able to down it in time. I figured you for a guy with a solid phone hook up. Kinda like they guy in pulp fiction. What happened if you don't mind telling the story? Unfortunately doing the things we do all of us are at risk. Good thing they didn't jam a pencil down your thought Denzel Washington style like in training day.

jeebis
01-09-2013, 11:21
Fuck, ya,ll. it's 5:17 in the am and in the last day I fucked up and relapsed. Since this morning all I've done (in this exact order) was wake up: smoke a bowl of some medical jack Herrer x Durban poison, took 1.5mg Klonopin, sniffed 2 bags, took 1mg kpin, sniffed three bags, nap, wake up, sniff 32.5mg adderall, smoke a fuckload of that bud, and then fucked my friend for no reason. Just straight dirty slut fucking status. That only happens when I'm fucked up lol.

I feel bad for relapsing though. I've been good :/ but those black panther bags were better....

BlueHues
01-09-2013, 11:35
Nah, it was ruined. I just went and copped again immediately. After everything I went through, no way I wasn't; getting high. hah. But now I jus know that my time is almost up. If I don't stop I know I'm going down soon.
Did you just get randomly pulled over? were you in a hot spot or did they know you had just copped somehow?

Swallowing stamp bags is fuckin rough, how many did you get down?

jeebis
01-09-2013, 11:46
My record is a bun and a half that I swallowed. In the car with someone with proofs and he knew I was a pill head, thus used to swallowing mouthfuls of pills, so I could swallow them. He said he'd give me half a bun for doing it if I puked them up because they were in 2 bundles in 2 bags.

So I swallowed them, puked them up, and only have him the full 10 and said the 5 didn't come up (but it did) so I left with a free bundle during a routine traffic stop lol

Swain
01-09-2013, 17:19
I've never seen dope sold in glass vials in NY. Not even once. Coke is sold that way a lot but never smack.

Same here. in jersey city in the hood you can get little vials of coke good for a solid speedball (or crack if you want). you can get bags too from phone connects... dope is always in stamped bags no matter what.

in nyc dopes still in stamped bags, coke is sold in bigger glass vials like 10x the amount you get in the single shot vials in jc. its also sold in bags.

i personally like the little vials you just pop the top[ dump it out. no ripping etc.

Swain
01-09-2013, 17:21
Came literally inches from being arrested again yesterday. I mean, cuffed and sitting on the side walk, the whole nine yards. Had I not eaten my shit at the last possible moment, my ass would be back at Rikers for the foreseeable future till they sent me upstate somewhere.

Fuck, it was a jarring experience. Scared the shit out of me thinking about going back to jail. My life literally flashed before my eyes for a second.

So, fuck this shit. I'm over it. Been 13 hours since my last dose and I refuse to cop another single bag. I'm done and I don't care how bad the suboxone transition is.

how did you get snagged and in what part of nyc?

Mr.Scagnattie
01-09-2013, 17:24
For everyone that asked, It was downtown in the East Village in a spot that I didn't know had recently become a high traffic drug area. So I was really dope sick going down there, stupid, unobservant like we get when we're really sick, and I missed the undercover cars. They saw me follow another dude in a car and then some neighbors came out and told them it looked shady, so on my way back down the block, they jumped out and rousted me.

I was cuffed sitting on the sidewalk for a good hour while they just grilled me, played the tough guy, bad cop/worse cop.

It was way to close of a call.

Swain
01-09-2013, 17:28
Word. Scary.

Yeah these are the lil jersey city coke vials i get just like the dude above posted and these bigger ones are brooklyn coke vials.

http://i50.tinypic.com/14lpwup.jpg

Mr.Scagnattie
01-09-2013, 17:38
^^

Mhhmmm. Those bring me back. My hearts racing just thinking about the blasts of coke I got from those vials.

What's going on with you swain? I see you pop up here and there and post then disappear for a while.

Still out rippin and runnin?

LSDiesel
02-09-2013, 05:36
I just scrapped together 2 bags from like 500 empties I had saved up. So much work for such a small shot

Mr.Scagnattie
02-09-2013, 09:58
I just scrapped together 2 bags from like 500 empties I had saved up. So much work for such a small shot

Hah, yeah. Scraping emptys can be pretty tedious.

chinky
02-09-2013, 10:58
^^welcome to the club, i posted picks before of my bag of empty capsules that i had saved..ium talking a full sandwich bag that was 1000s of emptys that had residue in each of them. but since i stoppd buying caps and started buying raw i dont really have all those old bags leftover, so thats why i make and use a foil straw and smoke some dope to givce my nose a break on days when im sick but dont plan on getting high. cause come rainy days im able to uroll the foil straw and smoke the reddish residue and take the sick away like i used to do with my empty caps..i also use the same dollar bill so i can scrape that and i use the same mortar and pestle to break up my raw, so i can scrape those and pull some residue off them when needed.



Those vials are cheap. I remember seeing them at the corner stores. You get 100's for a few bucks. They come in different sizes . One bood thing about em is you can see right inside them so you know if its rocked up raw or scramble. They are actually a cool little dope carrying case i think compared to bags.

in highschool we used to steal vials from the science room and use them for storing our really good weed. but it came back to hurt me though cause i had the vial in my pocket one day at a party an the cops show up and i cuffed it and put it on what i thought wasa table and walked away and it was really an old coke machine wit ha rounded top and the glass vial rolled off and fell to the ground with a *clink, clink* and there was like 40 of us just standing and sitting hrere, wit hthe cops a around and so when it fell and hit the concrete EVERYONE heard it and the cops instanly threw me in cuffs. the shitty part was they prolly wrnt gonna search us, but i was just scared cause less then a month before that i had ben arrrested for having less then a gram on me and this vial had like half a gram in it too and i didnt want to go down with it. which i did anyways "cause i lied at the beginning" which is total truth but who wouldnt? i think they arrested me cause i had been arrested for it not even a month before and you all know thatsd how pigs do things. if you made a bad decision ib nyour past, the cops are the last one to give you a pass or a second chance. i mean they look at us as job security right?


haha i just dont trust the vials. if im buying raw im buying weight... no one in their right mind is gonna hand me 25 vials. like wtf.. im gonna spend more time scraping that shit out that i am being high

good coke and good raw dope doesnt really stick. when i get raw that stickes to the bag, its the cut that is sticking not the dope. the same with some good fishscale..its the cut that sticking, not sop much the coke

tomatalli
02-09-2013, 21:18
yesterday my friend told me he did dope for 2 weeks one time and didn't get addicted. I told him he'd get addicted sooner or later because it's a scientific fact you will get physically addicted with consistent use. He was literally convinced his body couldn't get addicted to anything....so fucking annoying dealin with ignorant people when ur tryin to help them from personal experience. Every addict goes in thinking they won't be addicted

Could u guys give me some help with a suboxone taper? I'm still doing dope and plan to start suboxone tomorrow or the next day depedin on how long this half g lasts me

Mr.Scagnattie
02-09-2013, 21:58
yesterday my friend told me he did dope for 2 weeks one time and didn't get addicted. I told him he'd get addicted sooner or later because it's a scientific fact you will get physically addicted with consistent use. He was literally convinced his body couldn't get addicted to anything....so fucking annoying dealin with ignorant people when ur tryin to help them from personal experience. Every addict goes in thinking they won't be addicted

Could u guys give me some help with a suboxone taper? I'm still doing dope and plan to start suboxone tomorrow or the next day depedin on how long this half g lasts me

What kind of taper are you looking to do? Fast, slow, etc?

tomatalli
03-09-2013, 00:32
Fast taper, I wanna get off opiates and get my test level back to normal ASAP. I'm usually doing around a bun a day, also how long does it take for test levels to get back ticker opiate use

Mr.Scagnattie
03-09-2013, 15:45
Fast taper, I wanna get off opiates and get my test level back to normal ASAP. I'm usually doing around a bun a day, also how long does it take for test levels to get back ticker opiate use

If you wanna do a quick taper, (there are many variations) an example of what you could do is this:

1. Ween down as low as you can go on the dope. You said you're doing about a bun a day, see if you can get that down to 5 bags a day at least. This will make your detox 10x easier.

2. Take your last shot, preferably at night, go to sleep, wait until you're in full withdrawal the next day and take 2mg's of suboxone. Wait 2 hours.

3. Keep taking another 2mg's every 2 hours until you feel relief, but don't take more than 12mg's the first day.

4. Within a day or two, you should be stabilized on a dose... I don't imagine you needing more than 8mg's.

5. Once you comfortable on that dose, do a straight 7 day kick.

Day 1: 8mg's
Day2: 6mg's
Day 3: 4mg's
Day 4: 2mg's
Day 5: 1mg
Day 6: .5mg
Day 7. .25mg
Day 8: Hop off

As far as when your testosterone will get back to normal, that's different for everyone. But, most people start seeing huge boosts after only a week or two. It will actually be off the charts high and take time to settle down. You should be back to "normal" in 3-4 weeks.

Tommyboy
03-09-2013, 21:54
^ Agreed. And don't expect to be back to 'normal' for about 2-3 days. Taking more suboxone won't help any, which is why it's not worth taking anymore than 12mg (I never go above 6mg but I was always ultra-conservative with it) and the longer you wait the better it will work.

shimazu
04-09-2013, 00:45
some of the stamps I've gotten over the past 1-2 weeks

http://i40.tinypic.com/o76b9e.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/205c9j6.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2aew7jn.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/afiljc.jpg

mario bags were kind of mediocre to be honest, Time Line felt like it had me on a timeline though that's for true.

different shit, same toilet, it all evens out in the end really

Tommyboy
04-09-2013, 04:25
^ Nice pants, I like the crease in them. ;)

tomatalli
04-09-2013, 05:20
So fucking angry. Got pulled over and swallowed 7 points. Didnt even end up getting searched but got questiomed about dope. Waisted my last $40 on swallowing dope. The only good thing is i learned a lesson, i dont wanna do dope anymore. Im 18, yeah i have chronic pain but dope isnt the answer.