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cadillacboy
25-03-2002, 12:18
I was just wondering if it is possible for cops/feds/dea or whatever type of law enforcement to sell you drugs ( small and bulk amounts ) and bust you for it later.

E-amf
25-03-2002, 16:25
Hey,
I doubt its really a problem to worry about. Since theres not much point in arresting the drug-users, most of the focus is on getting the "bigger fish". If they catch you by selling drugs to you, they are getting a smaller fish than buying the drugs that you would have bought instead ;)

bachus
25-03-2002, 18:41
In Maryland they can sell you fake drugs and prosecute you for posession of a 'non-dangerous controlled substance.'
In other words, it's illegal to have something that you think is an illegal drug. In other words, you can go to jail for what you think.
In the Land of the Brave and the Home of the Free.
Sucks don't it?

cadillacboy
25-03-2002, 21:15
What about if it was a large quanity of a controlled substance ? Would they have to arrest you right there for posession, or could they come back later if they had you on tape or some other type of evidence of you buying the drugs?

acidbluE
26-03-2002, 04:58
~now i know ive seen COPS(the show) many times where they set up someguy to buy drugs from them. whether its small time or bulk.
the cops are still arresting somebody, the evil people still go to jail and the drug war continues.
i know that cops want the big guys more than some small time user but 'the war on drugs' doesnt care.
peace
bluE

Conspiracy Kid
26-03-2002, 05:08
Also remember that they must first start with the small timers and work up the ladder from there.
Number one method used in the system is getting people to "rat" on other people.
Ask anyone who's ever been involved with a federal drug case. I have even seen brothers ratting on each other. It is truely amazing what people will do to stay out of jail.

cadillacboy
26-03-2002, 05:49
So if one had been buying large quanities from an undercover, would they be most likely to bust the person right there or wait until after a few buys. What I mean is, is it common for cops / feds to develop relatioships with people from selling to them over a period of time, and then bust them later. I know they develop relationships with people to work their way up when they are buying drugs, but I have never heard of them doing it as far as selling drugs.

cadillacboy
26-03-2002, 05:49
So if one had been buying large quanities from an undercover, would they be most likely to bust the person right there or wait until after a few buys. What I mean is, is it common for cops / feds to develop relatioships with people from selling to them over a period of time, and then bust them later. I know they develop relationships with people to work their way up when they are buying drugs, but I have never heard of them doing it as far as selling drugs.

badjessejames
26-03-2002, 10:53
When I was a youngster.....there was a guy named "BOOGIE"...
He looked like your average biker dude...lived near a college..and partied alot.
He started trading us ounces of meth for stolen guns,tvs,....anything we could get.
He also used drugs with us alot...
One day 6 people get arrested at the county fair...everything they sold/traded to him is now evidence...he is a federal agent....he was always recording every conversation poeple had etc..
THANK GOD those 6 people were minors!!!!

DrGonzoESQ
26-03-2002, 18:00
Yes, undercovers can sell you drugs, and bust you for it later.

chrissie
26-03-2002, 19:24
yea and u can find out about it months later

cadillacboy
26-03-2002, 22:15
Also, I am guessing that if one had been dealing with a younger person. say 19-20, they would be less likely to be a cop / fed due to their age. Right? I mean don't cops have to be at least like 21 because of liability issues or something?

Conspiracy Kid
26-03-2002, 22:53
[quote]Originally posted by cadillacboy:
Also, I am guessing that if one had been dealing with a younger person. say 19-20, they would be less likely to be a cop / fed due to their age. Right? I mean don't cops have to be at least like 21 because of liability issues or something?
The Police can always pose as a younger age!!

cadillacboy
27-03-2002, 08:20
I realize that it is possible for an officer to pose as a younger age, I just figure there are a lot more cops OVER the age of 20 then UNDER the age of 20. So therefore, dealing w/ younger people should be considered somewhat safer, although of course not completely fool proof. Does that sound about right ?

Conspiracy Kid
27-03-2002, 09:13
[quote]Originally posted by cadillacboy:
I realize that it is possible for an officer to pose as a younger age, I just figure there are a lot more cops OVER the age of 20 then UNDER the age of 20. So therefore, dealing w/ younger people should be considered somewhat safer, although of course not completely fool proof. Does that sound about right ?
They have many undercovers who can pose any age from 18 on up. I really wouldn't say it's safer to deal with anybody...
In my town about 2 years ago there was an afterhours club that had a rave set up wednesday through sunday morning every week. One night the undercovers (many wearing tiny video cams) completely took the place over. There was quite a few of them. They bought ecstasy from anyone who would sell it to them, and then even turned around a sold some of what they just bought. Soon the club was raided by a few different agencies and the made each person walk out through the side door one by one. They had a spotlight pointing at the door and they were picking people out of line who had either bought or sold anything. Ended up getting like 25 people.
With all the new technology and the millions and millions that are being thrown into this "drug war", dealers are starting to run out of luck...

cadillacboy
29-03-2002, 22:42
So if a cop had been selling to you for whatever amount of time, had not busted you on the spot, but instead waited until a few months later to bring you in, what would the actual charge be ? Surely not posession as you would not be holding the stuff months later on down the road. Hmmm..

Conspiracy Kid
30-03-2002, 08:40
[quote]Originally posted by cadillacboy:
So if a cop had been selling to you for whatever amount of time, had not busted you on the spot, but instead waited until a few months later to bring you in, what would the actual charge be ? Surely not posession as you would not be holding the stuff months later on down the road. Hmmm..
It depends on what else they have on you as far as evidence. Could be "Posession with intent to distribute" or "Conspiracy to distribute" even flat out "Distribution"...

ebeneezer_goode
30-03-2002, 10:38
sucks to be living in america here in Oz its known as intrapment and police arent allowed to do it, they actually have to catch you in the act.

sqaz
01-04-2002, 12:31
Yes a cop can sell you drugs. It happened to a couple of my friends. With herion for example in downtown Los Angeles by McArthur park the cops sell herion to the herion addicts. The reason they do this is not to bust you but take back an area that was once controlled by dealers. After a while the cops will just stop dealling drugs to kill the spot. And the real dealers usually don't show up again because the customers think the spot is dead and there is no one to sell to.

MissYrotica
10-04-2002, 13:23
With all that ^^^ said, if one knows the people one buys from, then there is no reason to worry.
...
Let Love Rule

*KANE*
16-04-2002, 17:32
I just watched cops last night where they had a cop an dthe corner pushing drugs then busting people for buying them. This guy actually harassed people into buying them . Its very wrong. I think some people just bought them because the guy scared them. A lot of those people were innocent. So yes. They can sell you drugs.

MultistateOffender
16-04-2002, 19:04
[quote]Originally posted by MissYrotica:
With all that ^^^ said, if one knows the people one buys from, then there is no reason to worry.
...
Let Love Rule
I knew my guy for three years... then one day he set me up... shit happens, just hope you dont get caught up in it.

La_casper
21-04-2002, 00:07
another point i do want to make also is this:
when 'undercover' a 'undercover' is also allowed to do whatever the people are doing that he is trying to set up!!!! this has just recentlly happened to some people i knew....i new guy comes into town, flashing money here and there. wanting to buy this , party with this person. etc. etc.
low and behold, all the people he was party with, are now in jail, and he is no where to be found.
to make a long story short...whenever you think someone is a little weird/funny/possible cop...the old lets party with him and see trick does not work. this has happened to a few people that i know. wether they are just informants or cops, they are still cops!
now i do not know if this is merelly just allowed or just over-looked.
stick with who you know, and know the drug business is a risk no matter what.
casper

Tech Kinetics
21-04-2002, 22:36
^^^
Actually, there was a show about Undercover agents on HBO about 3 years ago.
If they are working for the government they CANNOT ingest any alcohal or illegal substances while on the job.
However, they are trained to "Look like" they are ingesting it.
They have all kinds of techniques to blend in with the crowd.
However, if its someone looking to bust some kids having a good time just so he can save his ass from getting jail time, then those are the people u gotta watch out for! It helps to learn some history about them....

Dr.groveller
22-04-2002, 01:59
[quote]Originally posted by La_casper:
another point i do want to make also is this:
when 'undercover' a 'undercover' is also allowed to do whatever the people are doing that he is trying to set up!!!!
casper
You are totally incorrect. Federal(state and local) agents cannot break the law while undercover. Cannot, that means no, nada, zip. Do they- sure, occasionally etc... but if you can prove that the undercover agent broke the law during his investigation... you're looking at a good appeal.
However, your freaky little friend that gets popped and the ROLLS OVER ON EVERYONE doesn't haven't to abide by these rules. Here's hoping the little rat gets drowned.
doc

quale
22-04-2002, 04:03
About polive officers being able to use/sell illegal drugs this was posted some time ago. Do I search I included links to sections of US law that specifically expempts police in the course of their duties from the narcotic duties. In other words they can do it b/c they aren't breaking the law.
They have evidence you at one time possesed the illegal substance and you bought it maybe this is enough for a crime. Now you got me all freaked out. It seems so stupid to do this, sure buddy up to people you think might have connections but just hooking up poor users and arresting them.
Ohh finally just recently (linked off plastic or
salon) there was an article just about this. A bunch of DEA agents imported MJ from oregon or BC to an entierly differnt state got some kids to buy it and busted them for it.
Sure *I* believe it is entrapment, however, the judiciary has a very very high standard for entrapment, especially with drugs.
Damn reihnquist.