Benzos (thienodiazepine) Etizolam Megathread V2

belfort said:

HDouble-i dont want to turn this into a different thread but you will never know what normal is as long as you are consuming many different psychoactive substances, day in and day out..u need to get clean from those drugs and dry yourself out, see where you are..self medicating with 4-5 different drugs will just complicate things..

ive never had headaches from etiz but i do notice i get the munchies from it..lol..i can eat a ton of food on etiz..makes food taste better..

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Funny you say that, belfort. I've always found etiz to make food taste HORRIBLE! I actually can't eat bread a week after stopping etiz.. Bizarre, I know.

HOD, I'm pretty sure alcohol is cross-tolerant with benzos to an extent so a beer or two might actually put you out of withdrawal. My brother who was addicted to xanax says that if he drinks a couple of days his benzo withdrawals actually come back so If you can try and buy some alcohol til you get back on benzos. With your history your definately at risk of a seizure, not trying to scare you.

I get headaches AND killer munchies, lucky me. No really though, a combination of kratom, etiz, and weed guarantees that I will need to go grocery shopping the next day. I eat to the point where it hurts lol, good thing I've got an ultra fast metabolism though or I would be a fat ass . Does etiz give anyone else this weird, almost chlorine type taste in your mouth? I've never heard anyone mention this yet I get the same taste everytime, it's different than the metallic tast of Z-drugs though.

To lazy to search but does anyone like the etilaam better then any brand including consern Pharms etizest? They taste better and dissolve faster. I don't feel the need to keep re dosing either.

Got 4 packs on the way but 1 is for someone else. They will be here tommorrow. I'm off for the next 3 if it snows like they're calling for.

muskolo said:

Funny you say that, belfort. I've always found etiz to make food taste HORRIBLE! I actually can't eat bread a week after stopping etiz.. Bizarre, I know.

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Really? Every gabaergic makes me eat like a pig :D

smokemctoke420 said:

To lazy to search but does anyone like the etilaam better then any brand including consern Pharms etizest? They taste better and dissolve faster. I don't feel the need to keep re dosing either.

Got 4 packs on the way but 1 is for someone else. They will be here tommorrow. I'm off for the next 3 if it snows like they're calling for.

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Tbh I think lots of vendors have figured out how to make pellets of reasonable quality and thus prefer their 2mg versions which just end up being cheaper in the end.

Or the powder, food grade MPG and measuring equipment (just be careful with that, fuck ups can end badly).

Oh ROXIanne! said:

Just make sure you don't make a habit of dosing every day. I've been dosing daily for just over a year and it is by far the hardest addiction I've had the displeasure of trying to kick.

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How bad are the withdrawals from etiz, as I been using daily for some time now, about 2mg, very occasionally up to 4mg and very rarely 6mg, as using 2mg pellets. I have read many reports that state that withdrawals from etiz is not as severe as from benzos due to it being thienodiazepine also not as easy or quick to develop a habit compared to tradtional benzos. Hoping that your symptoms aren't to debilitating and take comfort that it would have been worse if you'd been using benzos. FYI you can go to your GP and tell him you are having problems stopping etiz and suffering withdrawals, he may not be very happy that you have been taking an off script diazepine but (and I have spoken to my own GP about my etiz use and he has told me that if I cannot taper and stop myself then he will happily help me) he will help and not condemn you, the usual treatment being switched to a benzo with a longer half life, usually diazepam and taper down a mg at a time slowly so withdrawals should be minimal to none. They have a diazepine equivelancy chart which includes etiz and also z drugs so can work out exactly how much daizepam to start you on. Do the withdrawal at your own speed, if your next dose drop seems to soon tell your GP you're not ready to drop a mg just yet and he will accommodate you, all you have to do is be seen to be trying to help yourself and he/she will do their best to help you. GPs are people too and understand people can get into trouble unintentionally and in spite of his personal feelings will do his best to help and will not patronise, belittle or in any other way put you down for making this mistake. My GP confided (without breaking confidentiality) that he has one patient who keeps falling in and out of benzo addiction, and he is always there to help when the patient is in trouble again and he treats him no worse than any other patient and in fact tries to keep a closer eye on this patient to try to pre-empt him getting into trouble again, not always successfully but he keeps trying and never loses patience with him. Go see your GP if your withdrawals are feeling unbearable, he will help if you are genuine and honest with him, no matter what sort of trouble you got yourself into. I have also had the same advice from my psychiatrist and a specialist clinician so this attitude of being there to help seems to run through the British medical system. Don't be afraid to talk to these people, you will be very surprised at the help you will get offered, okay you may get a bit of eye rolling or tutting at your stupidity, but they will not refuse to help you if your need is real. This is the British experience, and the NHS can surprise you. Don't suffer in silence, get help, it's out there for you. Suffering, thinking you're on your own is wrong, at least as far as the UK is concerned.

It should be noted that diclazepam is a direct analog of diazepam and all the effects, side effects and warnings are the same, if you were trying to taper off a non prescription diazepine like etizolam then diclazepam should do the same job that they would use diazepam for(long half life so no mid dose withdrawals, slow mg by mg taper down until off) handy for countries with less tolerant medical practitioners. At least here in UK you can go to your GP no matter what you may have done to yourself and they will try their best to help you and will not let their own prejudices influence the treatment and help offered.

[éS]Infinite said:

I tried some etizolam last week, not much just 1 mg/day for two days and did experience enhanced dreams afterwards. I even had a bout of sleep paralysis, something I think I've only experienced once before in my life when I was younger and had a nightmare.

Essentially what had happened was my conscious mind woke up and knew it was time to get out of bed and start my day, but I awoke in a very vivid dream, laying in my bed with the lights on and my textbooks over me as though I had just dozed off. I struggled to move as my conscious mind was piecing together what was going on and managed to sit up in my bed and peel the textbooks from my body. Then I woke up from that dream (I was having another dream before I 'woke up' to that dream) and was back in reality, my room was dark, and I did not have my textbooks on top of me.

This wasn't an unpleasant experience, as sleep paralysis is often described, and was pretty interesting. The dreams beforehand were also very clear and often had a recurring theme of driving to a winter cottage in the country or driving into a (distant) futuristic Toronto cityscape.

As for the effects of etizolam, I did not find them as appreciable as diclazepam simply because I didn't notice much going on (I find benzos don't have significant mind-altering effects for me). Diclazepam used shortly before bed made me very relaxed physically, at ease mentally, and I slept very soundly for 8 hours, waking up in the morning feeling free of anxiety until the mid-afternoon.

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According to what I've read, Japan, Italy and India have all approved Etizolam for prescription. You won't see it being prescribed in developed nations as there are such a wide range of benzodiazepines available already, there is no commercial viability in researching, developing and bringing another diazepine to market as it has no special qualities or illness specific uses that cannot be covered with already available benzos. Shame really, as it is a good drug,(I'd say it's an equivalent of lorazepam, same half life and effect profile) much cheaper than benzos, so we could see more countries licensing it for prescription (amongst developing nations) due to it's ease and cost of manufacture.Glad it's not developed for UK market as can get it online so very easily, but am surprised it's not on the rx list as it's harder to develop an addiction, and if that happens, withdrawal symptoms are reported to be less intense and unpleasant than standard benzos and unlike lorazepam who's anxiolytic effects start wearing off eventually, studies show that etizolam's anxiolytic effect gets stronger after 4 weeks regular usage. Given that it's anxiolytic effect is 6 times stronger than diazepam and doesn't weaken over time I'd have thought there might have been enough reason to develop it for prescription, but glad it's not, and doubt it will be made illegal here as it's a drug for a specialist user, there will be no massive uptake of this substance, no craze (like mephedrone, meow meow) causing a media frenzy, resulting in a knee jerk reaction banning the drug's sale and possession.

smokemctoke-i prefer Etizest brand etizolam over every other brand..when it comes to potency they may not be stronger than etilaam but etizest are much easier to break in half

That's why you have a pill cutter. I rarely break the
In half.

And I'm knocking the etizest brand. They're both pretty nice.
I don't see my package getting here till tommorrow, much less the mail coming. Fucking 8 inches of snow on the ground. Guess there's always tommorrow.

Etizest > *

Got a small order of 2 blisters on the way.. that's the only way I can keep my usage in check. If I was to order 10 blisters the rest of March would be a hazy blur for me.

^geez, u guys order just a few blisters here and there?i feel like a kingpin in comparison lol..

For someone who can't control their usage of GABAergics it is the only way of preventing week/month-long blackouts.

It's smart if you ask me. Not cost effective but smart.

black53 said:

Really? Every gabaergic makes me eat like a pig :D

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Ironically, Xanax would actually enhance my taste buds...especially cherry soda! But, yeah, for whatever reason etizolam makes food taste like shit to me.

belfort said:

^geez, u guys order just a few blisters here and there?i feel like a kingpin in comparison lol..

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Ill black out if I don't. The first time I ordered I got 2 blisters then 4 more and blacked out for a whole week on those 6. Got 2 a couple weeks later and didn't black out cuz I actually felt them (md's) compared to etizest brand. Now I'm getting 4 more (3 for me) and I'll be ok. No blackouts. It helps that i have to be up 5 days a week at 5am for work, unlike when i had the first 6 blusters.

My package is in Philly. Gonna wake up to some etiz tommorrow. And there's still snow on the ground so I'll be munching etiz and taking bong rips all day tommorrow.

That sucks that benzos have this insidious way of causing massive blackout benders for some, that causes you to guys to pay out the ass but it is better than forgetting weeks at a time. Thankfully I've always had a decent sense of self-control with benzos as they're only so recreational for me, I still have quite a bit of my 150mg/15ml solution from like a month back that cost me around what 3 blisters would cost and I spilled half the bottle in a massive psychedelic induced stumble fest lol. Drugs

^^i aso find it bizarre, actually at first i didnt believe some of the etiz blackout stories where someone would take 2 mgs and end up draining 3 blisters in a night..they wouldnt remember anything the next day but theyd see empty blister packs so they obviously took them lol..i thought they were just trying to justify their sloppiness if that makes sense but now i believe in this..i have a question that cannot be answered now though lol..what exactly do you guys do during these benzo blackouts do you think?is it like opiates where you sit back and nod out, just watch tv or are you actually driving places and doing things?

its bad i just talked to a woman in her early 40s, spent the last 12 years on klonopin, told me she barely remembers ANY of it, just tiny pieces..im like damn..

what about sex drive for you guys when it comes to etiz?i have found even 1 mg pretty much cancels out any sexual desire i have..true for you guys as well?i view this as a terrible side effect at times, a positive at other times..is there anything you guys to help this area or do you just deal with it?

I recently purchased Etilozam. They do absolutely nothing for me. In my 20s I was diagnosed with general anxiety disorder. At that time I was prescribed Xanax bars. Then I was bumped down to 1mg. After that I was put on Zoloft with a script for Valium in the event of a panic attack. I'm now in my 40s and my GP will not even prescribe Xanax period. She has me on Prozac and klonopin (which again is for panic attack events). Quite frankly nothing but Xanax will stop a panic attack in it's tracks for me do I use other routes to get what I need. I read up on the Etilozam and thought they may be helpful. They were not in any form or fashion. I didn't feel calm, drowsy, nothing. So for me it was a complete waste of money. JMO