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Benzos (thienodiazepine) Etizolam Megathread V2

Diclazepam kicks in slower and last longer than etizolam. Strength wise, 1mg has a lower peak than 1mg of etizolam but if you compare duration*strength of effect for diclazepam and etizolam then 1mg diclazepam ~ 1mg etizolam. If you're looking at just the peak it's more like 2mg diclazepam ~ 1mg etizolam. Also most people find it less fun.

And diclazepam powder is harder to handle than etizolam powder imo.
 
How I's it hard to handle? Is it hard to dissolve ? I know that eitz usually requires propylene glycol to dissolve. Also is dicloz anything like its cousin valium? even though valium maybe a little bit weaker than klonopin I really really like it because of its muscle relaxing effect but I've also heard that Eitz has a muscle relaxant effect as well. But the duration is so short with eitz.
 
whats people take in the new pink tablets? i think the quality is much better than intas brand meself.
 
whats people take in the new pink tablets? i think the quality is much better than intas brand meself.

I agree, I as well as every one of my friends and family find etizest pills far stronger and more accurately dosed than etilaam. Some will argue there's no difference but those are usually the ones who have never tried em and believe it's impossible/illegal for a third-world pharmaceutical company to have rather poor quality control :/

Anyone know why etizest prices are being increased? I've noticed this on pretty much all the reputable US vendors. I'm assuming everyones making the switch.
 
don't know about the current ones, but the orange/pink 2mg that were going around in summer were good
 
Hi all, made a seperate thread for this as im taking extremly high doses of codeine aswell, but whats an ideal tapering plan after taking 5-8mg everyday since March this year?

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/703411-1800mg-codeine-400mg-tramadol-5-8-Etizolam-day

Thanks

These are days and from a dosage of 8mg but I could/would probably go:-

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one day 500mg next 1mg alternating for 10 days. Then drop to 500mg for another 10 days. Then alternate 500mg every other day for 10 days.

This would get you clean within 2 months without withdrawals. Sticking to it if you have a difficult day would be the hardest bit.

Dropping 1mg a day from a high dose isn't that difficult. It's when the dose gets lower you need to extend the days out further.
 
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Hello, If this is not allowed please delete. I Usually need about 30mg of diazepam to get a nice feeling, but 50-60 is around the best. I have no tolerance to benzos. I have read 1mg etiz is equal to 10 of diazepam, is this true? They are also generics I have bought, not etilaam or etizest, so should quality control be similar?
 
it takes you 50 to 60 milligrams of Valium to get a nice feeling? and you have no been through tolerance? that is insanely high amount if it takes you that much then eitz will disappoint you also I've heard that one milligram is equal to more like 5 milligrams of Valium
 
it takes you 50 to 60 milligrams of Valium to get a nice feeling? and you have no been through tolerance? that is insanely high amount if it takes you that much then eitz will disappoint you also I've heard that one milligram is equal to more like 5 milligrams of Valium

Well 20-30mg makes me chilled out, but for a real mad time its about 50-60, although I would NEVER recommend that dosage to a naive person. I hope they work, if not im going to try some flubromazepam as have heard it is alot stronger. I also have a few samples of Diclazepam, but have not tried yet as have heard they are weak as crap.
 
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^ Ive heard that flubro is okay, and diclazepam is decent, but not very euphoric in any sense, almost completely anxiolytic. But hey! everyone is different, and Im not one to judge. Personally I find valium to be pretty heavy on the hypnotic side of things, but not much else. I also cant seem to get any sort of decent high off of etizolam, but it does help with anxiety (although I have no intention of using it to treat anxiety.)
 
eI ordered so much of this stuff before it gets pulled from the market. Now I'm stuck with it since its not my thing. sad face
 
I struck lucky first time when I found out about etizolam, the first online vendor I tried happened to be a legitimate vendor of RCs (there are quite a few rogue sites out there selling dodgy, potentially dangerous products and you don't know exactly what you are getting,neither dosages and quantities, unless you have access to an analysis lab), and what was on offer is what is being supplied. So after an inital purchase of a few 2mg (pink) pellets realised very quickly that what I had received seemed to be exactly what they had on offer, and they were having a sale so they were selling 2mg pellets for the price of 1mg pellets. so I made a second larger order which arrived, as the first, in a very discreet envelope, A week later, notincing the sale was still on I bought another 250 just in case the sale ended (it has now unfortunately). The feedback pages for the site is full of glowing reports and quite a few reported having had their etizolam lab tested and found the pellets to contain the correct dose of etizolam. Unfortunately I have difficulties achieving euphoria, possibly due to being bipolar, so do not get that effect, but for a warm, relaxing, calmative few hours it's definitely worth a try ( even nicer when SWIM mixes it with cannabis, and then adds his zopiclone at bed time and is then floating off to bed, having had the most enjoyable anxiety free few hours of the day.
 
It's highly unlikely to become scheduled in the UK, it's just not on the home office radar, it's a specialist substance which appeals to a smaller, select audience that appreciates the subtle pleasures of hypnotics and anxyolitics. It wll not end up in a media feeding frenzy on the scale of mephedrone and a couple of other RCs, causing a knee jerk reaction and banning possession. Etizolam will never achieve that sort of notoriety and should be overlooked. BigPharma have no interest in developing it and bringing it to market as there is no commercial viability in doing so, considering the wide range of benzodiazepines we already have at market. It will more than likely, become a forgotten substance as far as the uk is concerned, mildy interesting but not interesting enough to capture media attention, not seen as a threat to public order as mephedrone was. If it even gets noticed it's more likely to be written off and classed as novel but not newsworthy, and viewed as fairly harmless, and non threatening enough for the media to ignore it and not try and create another moral panic about untested substances kids are taking these days (although it should be noted 3 countries have developed etizolam and brought it to market, India, Japan and Italy, so unlike many RCs there is a raft of research and documentation on this substance making it a little unique in the RC world). [un
thank you tricomb. that last etizolam thread was getting waaaaayyy of track. i can admit, im partially to blame. and so is etizolam. i think theres a phenazepam megathread spliced into it, Lol. thanks for keeping things organized and tidy around here. some of us appreciate. well probably most of us. etizolam is a beautiful thing.

i just want to start this new thread out by addressing some concerns and confusion alot of people had towards this "wonder drug" DO NOT BUT PELLETS OFF RESEARCH SITES. any company that sells pellets, is usually one you dont want to do business with. you want the intas ones.

and for all those crazy hardcore bluelighters who talk about IV'ing this drug, just buy the powder and (of course weigh it) sublingual it. it has almost no taste, and hits you ALOT harder and faster than taking a pill or pellet. 3mg of etizolam is a good recreational dose, its comparable to taking 20mg of valium with 1mg xanax mixed in.

***Etizolam is NOT of equal potency to xanax or klonopin, like most people say, including wikipedia. anyone who knows their way around a pile of drugs can tell you 1mg etizolam = roughly .5mg xanax because they are 2 completely different chemicals with very different mechanisms. xanax (imo) has alot more knockout power, easier to blackout on and be a dickhead, and has a crash (rebound anxiety) after peak plasma levels are reached. its slightly weaker than xanax but ALOT more enjoyable. if you normally take 1mg xanax, you will want 1.5-2mg of etizolam to get you that elated feeling, but its a much clearer drug to think on, compared to xanax. i would say etizolam is like if xanax and valium had a baby****

the only major downside to etizolam is its easy to get mentally addicted to, and if you do gain dependance, its said to be less harsh of a benzo WD than xanax (the worst one i know of), but the fact that etizolam releases seratonin, it can be harder since your going to be dependant on benzo and basically anti-depressants. i dont think its as bad as tramadol wd's (i compare bc its a drug that has opiates and anti-depressant qualities. there is no sourcing allowed, but if you are going to go in search of ordering some, the intas brand are the good ones, they come in a blister pack, like sample drugs come from the dr's office.

i just tried the powder for my 1st time today, and man....i can really dig that stuff. i got 100mg's and it looks TINY so please, if you order powder, use your best judgement, or maybe even adult supervision. a knife with just a light dusting on the end, a few speckles, is enough to feel something. NEVER eyeball powder benzos even if you have a tolerance, and a devil may care attitude. i did a tiny taste and waited 45 minuted and scooped out what had to be another mg or 2 at the most. i did a light scoop and waited 45 minutes and i could feel it strong right away. then 3 hours later, i felt like i did maybe 2.5-3mg's and it was a good buzz, but was fading. so i repeated the technique and it was never overbearing, i was more careful than most. if i take 4-5mgs of etizolam i am stumbling through the house like i took a xanax bar and drank a beer. i didnt get anywhere near that but i was definitely feeling good. i made the mistake of accidentally taking 10mg (after weighing it even) of phenazepam and learned my lesson. even that wasnt really bad. just dont be an idiot and lick your finger and dip out enough to make a snortable bump. i think i ate a few specs to equal about the size of a watch battery on a table. not the height and width, but just a little dot. a dab. be careful no matter how you do your benzos, and a good idea is to write down what time you dose, to prevent from redosing on accident. but this stuff isnt amnesiac at all. it makes xanax look like a pill that will give you alzhemiers just my .02 cents. my advice....stock up before its scheduled.
 
Apparently you could switch to diclazepam which has a much longer half life than etiz, same as diazepam itself apparently, but it's ten times more potent so dosage is 1mg diclazepam = 10mg diazepam, and try to taper off that way, but it might be hard to cut a 1mg dosage down to taper off, not impossible, but not easy to judge dosage when cutting up a 1mg pellet
"1) does it have any negative cognitive effects? wikipedia says it possesses "amnesic" properties...and I'm wondering if I should cut down/stop my usage during the exam period in June?"

Yes, it does. I've found it's being really detrimental to my memory, cognitive abilities and speech overtime.Definitely not something you want to be taking if you are studying and revising. I think if you were to use it according to that schedule, you're still in danger of still developing a physical dependency overtime. Word of warning- your tolerance will go up, the anxiety on days off will get worse and you'll start to notice odd w/d symptoms even between dosages and on days without.

Be careful! These things also seemed to cured my social anxiety, but that makes them so addictive, and makes coming off them hell.
 
Apparently you could switch to diclazepam which has a much longer half life than etiz, same as diazepam itself apparently, but it's ten times more potent so dosage is 1mg diclazepam = 10mg diazepam, and try to taper off that way, but it might be hard to cut a 1mg dosage down to taper off, not impossible, but not easy to judge dosage when cutting up a 1mg pellet

The powder is available and dissolves in MPG, he can use that if he wants to go this road.
 
I take 75mg pregabalin twice a day and take 2-4mg etiz a day with no apparent reduction in effect of the etiz. YMMV
Is it safe to combine Etizolam with Pregabalin (Lyrica)?

I take 300mg Pregabalin twice a day, prescribed by my GP for neuropathic pain. Tonight I want to take 2mg Etizolam on top of 300mg Lyrica when my trip is over. So I will be able to sleep.

Two weeks ago I took 5mg Diazepam on top of 300mg Lyrica. It still took 3 hours to fall asleep after a 8mg 5-Meo-MiPT trip. Maybe it worked less good by taking my daily dose of Lyrica. A drug interaction checker online with keywords Diazepam and Pregabalin also said:
"Will decrease the level or effect of diazepam by affecting hepatic/intestinal enzyme CYP3A4 metabolism. Significant - Monitor Closely."

Any help much appreciated. I cannot ask my GP about this Etizolam substance.
 
Etizolam has a half life of 3 hrs, but it's metabolite is also equally as active and has a half life of 8 hrs add 1hr to clear first pass digestion and start metabolising it, your looking at a total half life of approx 9hrs, 8 to be safe.
How long is the duration of Etizolam? Shorter or longer than Xanax? (only benzo I've ever tried).
 
Krokodil is addict manufactured desomorphine not dihydrocodeine
Dihydrocodeine is not Krokodil:

It is prescribed for moderate pain... OR - opiate withdrawals in UK more commonly. Dihydrocodeine is a semi-synthetic opioid analgesic, doseage being roughly 2x that of regular codeine. Was developed in the early 1900s, and is related to (in the family of immediate codeine opiates) oxycodone, hydrocodone etc. (Not quite as potent as those two, however).

Krokodil is... eye drop solution... lots of other crap... I don't know too much but if you want to find out about that disgusting, desperate drug, watch the Vice documentary on youtube - Krokodil - Russia's Deadliest Drug.

As for Etizolam, best brand is Etizest in my opinion, come in strips of 10, red, bar type tablets. 2nd comes Intas - also Indian produced.
 
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