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dittmaraz
17-07-2012, 19:21
Sry if this topic has been done b4. Do u have any experiences or know of such stories where one of your straight friend was really high, had confusing thoughts, and took your rumored
"equal opportunity" proclivities and had a great fucking time,

(He looks around for witnesses then says)
This never happened, I'm not gay, You know this.

Tell me a time a straight guy was so high, he could be into dudes maybe for a minute, and maybe you dreamed that impossibly straight dream. Luck.

g0to
17-07-2012, 19:49
It makes you very horny and lowers inhibitions. It wont make you gay though, it'll just make you comfortable with fucking men if you were previously in denial, and then you will wish to do so. So basically its just you coming out of the closet to yourself. Not really that big of a deal. Gay and straight is a sliding scale, not a black and white thing.

dittmaraz
17-07-2012, 20:00
They got their odd rules, that makes someone gay or not. They wont get fucked and wont give head (thats if "gay shit" scares the crap out of them). Otherwise, every guy has a little gay in them. Just avoid dominating situations(where he's being dominated).

All im saying is it sux when you're into a guy thats straight. Meth do your magic.

Cohesion
17-07-2012, 22:48
True that all sorts of sexual mischief happens while on amps. Sadly there can be a lot of emotional turmoil after sobering up.

Respect the nature of your using friends, and focus on what's true.

Be well.

StarOceanHouse
17-07-2012, 23:34
related reading:

rollin & niggaz being gay (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/70902-Bluelight-Flashback-August-2000-quot-rollin-amp-niggaz-being-gay-quot)

PriestTheyCalledHim
18-07-2012, 03:49
It makes you very horny and lowers inhibitions. It wont make you gay though, it'll just make you comfortable with fucking men if you were previously in denial, and then you will wish to do so. So basically its just you coming out of the closet to yourself. Not really that big of a deal. Gay and straight is a sliding scale, not a black and white thing.

^This^

I have never used crystal meth and stimulants or other drugs never made me realize that I'm bisexual but I have seen men who are bisexual or gay and in denial or closeted sort of come out or they accept this aspect of themselves while they are drunk, and they totally deny it while sober since they are in denial or closeted about their bisexuality or in some cases that they are a gay man.

See also: http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q179564.html

The so called "rules" you wrote about are their own personal hangups. If these men were heterosexual even if they were on meth or other drugs they wouldn't be having sex with men or seeking out male sexual partners.

Also whatever you do, don't force them to accept themselves as being either bisexual or gay. This is something that they themselves have to do on their own and not everyone is comfortable with being out, or even wants to come out and again this is something that someone has to do on their own.

rincewindrocks
18-07-2012, 04:15
related reading:

rollin & niggaz being gay (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/70902-Bluelight-Flashback-August-2000-quot-rollin-amp-niggaz-being-gay-quot)

there is a tiny bit of usefull reading on the first page, and then it quickly turns to feeding a troll....im not sure if its worth readin, TBH.

as long as im posting, i can tell you that meth makes you very horny, and it also fucks with your head. stuff that may not usually be interesting becomes interesting. and if its only two dudes, well, anything could happen. only time i tried sex with another dude, i was high as hell on coke, which, because of its stimulant properties, acts similar...hell, for all i know, that coke might have been mostly meth. wouldnt surprise me.

tricomb
18-07-2012, 08:38
I personally have never had such thoughts under the influence of methamphetamine, however I have plenty of stories about people I know who, erm... well to quote you OP, "got a little gay for a minute". :)

Methamphetamine is a purely hedonistic drug often used explicitly for the powerful sexual desires it induces. I have used it for highly promiscuous sex with lots of girlfriends, however it significantly lowers your inhibitions. You have to be extremely careful because this drug can have you doing things you never ever thought you'd do. I never was one for one-night-stands, and since my early to mid teenage years, never liked to use protection, even if that meant only having unprotected sex in a committed relationship where both parties tested clean. However, using methamphetamine made me care much less about my previous, mostly anti-one-night-stand policy, and although I then used a condom it took a lot of willpower to use the condom, but I'm glad I did.

I've never had an STD, but I know a ton of people who used methamphetamine and inhibitions were lowered to the point where unsafe sex was performed with someone considered "high-risk" as in, possibly/probably infected with some sort of STD, and luckily enough none of my friends ever contracted HIV, but Chlamydia, HPV, herpes rarely, gonorrhea, etc did happen to a few people I knew.

I know girls that got pregnant due to shards, and usually they became single moms since the baby's daddy was usually still using tweak full-time and were in no way fit to be fathers.

I know this isn't really about your homosexuality question, but I just wanted to say that yeah, methamphetamine is famous, or infamous rather, for this type of thing.

JD55
18-07-2012, 11:00
It sounds like your hoping this situation might occur while smoking with someone? All I can say is be respectful and try not to take advantage of anyone while they're high. Make your move while theyre in the right state of mind and If it isn't meant to be don't creep.

hyroller
18-07-2012, 13:13
You're right. this topic has been covered before. I believe the last thread (to my knowledge) was titled 'stims make you bisexual?' - and it was a few pages long, from memory

B1tO'RoughJack
19-07-2012, 22:54
you're seeing things in black and white.

Most people are bisexual. Few people are gay, some are straight.

However, homosexual romping (this obviously includes bisexuality) has been frowned on in western culture for fucking god knows how long but before it has been just accepted. It is becoming more acceptable, so just face up to the fact you liked getting a bit of man-on-man action, could maybe do it again, and be HAPPY! (or gay if you wanna talk olde english) :D

tricomb
20-07-2012, 02:06
All I can say is be respectful and try not to take advantage of anyone while they're high. Make your move while theyre in the right state of mind and If it isn't meant to be don't creep.

^Great advice, listen to this. Methamphetamine is infamous for causing regretful situations if you aren't careful.

pofacedhoe
20-07-2012, 13:09
basically trying to turn straight guys with drugs, while it can be done it leads to trouble and when they turn around and are all like "i dont feel gay any more" your self esteem will drop as low as a woman who just found out her ex husband was gay the whole time, it aint good. and thats if they flat out dont reject you. why set yourself up for a fall?

also alcohol is the best drug for making a man turn gay- it makes you stupid and for some reason with me has at times completely reversed my sexuality and made me fancy women for an evening (and i'm aware of my turn on's, normally girls will make me erect in porn BUT there is deep emotional component of satifaction missing that makes the whole thing feel empty and pointless). its such a dirty drug that it bound to hit and vastly alter every neural structure at least once or twice if you do it often enough

ugly
20-07-2012, 13:31
Methamphetamine is infamous for causing regretful situations if you aren't careful.

Thanks so much Tricomb. I learned about this the hard way. I have found that the sex effect eventually went away, the weight came back, and the rush wasn't as rushy. That being said, in the beginning I have done and said things I wish I hadn't, and I couldn't take them back. The effects of the drug wore off and the situations I fucked up did NOT wear off. That is a miserable place to be.

I loved having orgasms when I first started using meth. I had orgasms with another straight woman also high on meth because, well, orgasms had to happen. It wasn't about our "sexuality" it was about busting a nut by any means necessary.

It does not affect me like that anymore. I feel some arousal but I can ignore it or I can handle it in a reasonable way, whereas my first three or four times I went wild.

B1tO'RoughJack
20-07-2012, 19:46
They got their odd rules, that makes someone gay or not. They wont get fucked and wont give head (thats if "gay shit" scares the crap out of them). Otherwise, every guy has a little gay in them. Just avoid dominating situations(where he's being dominated).

All im saying is it sux when you're into a guy thats straight. Meth do your magic.

Oh I see... dude - don't even try that one, unless you prepared to get your ass kicked.

Although you could try it - who knows, he might not actually be straight, he might not know it yet. If you're prepared for the worst, the best might happen. It happened wit a friend of mine.

Nothing wrong with getting someone high on drugs, then making a move on them, unless it's a dissociative, or vast amounts of alcohol/heroin - you will get your answer very quickly, no fucking about.

As long as they're not "out of it", they are big enough and conscious enough to make their own decisions - EVEN IF it may be something that pushes you apart (thru either a green light + they're not prepared to admit things to themselves; or a red light and they're pissed off - worst case scenarios - you get your ass kicked or evven killed...but the chances are SLIM).

Serotonin101
24-07-2012, 08:58
Meth has always made me hyper sexual and reckless. I cheated many times under its influence =\ I have never experienced attraction (sexual or emotional) towards another male and have never desired to receive pleasure from a male. Just my experience. I tend to notice that women seem to "experiment" more with same sex relations than men do, at least in my part of the US. Probably due to societies acceptability of the actions; 2 girls share a bed and it's fine, 2 guys and you're labeled "gay" forever it seems.

Noodle
24-07-2012, 15:27
Don't spin his head 'jack.

<3

:D

TurelGrigori
24-07-2012, 15:53
“Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people.” ― Gore Vidal, Sexually Speaking: Collected Sex Writings

I'm amazed that not only do people sometimes have major crises of identity about having had a momentary sexual encounter, I've actually known people to have serious doubts about their identity because someone hit on them , didn't hit on them, because they got an erection or didn't,--so much stuff that I find transitory fluff. I suppose though there are more bizarre ontological crises though. Identity invested in name brand products makes even less sense to me.

Noodle
24-07-2012, 15:58
Oh my. That is a great thread to be made. ...might cross over into P&S forum territory on this board though.

:)

tricomb
25-07-2012, 04:31
Thanks so much Tricomb. I learned about this the hard way. I have found that the sex effect eventually went away, the weight came back, and the rush wasn't as rushy. That being said, in the beginning I have done and said things I wish I hadn't, and I couldn't take them back. The effects of the drug wore off and the situations I fucked up did NOT wear off. That is a miserable place to be.

I loved having orgasms when I first started using meth. I had orgasms with another straight woman also high on meth because, well, orgasms had to happen. It wasn't about our "sexuality" it was about busting a nut by any means necessary.

It does not affect me like that anymore. I feel some arousal but I can ignore it or I can handle it in a reasonable way, whereas my first three or four times I went wild.

Yeah Frizz, see I feel the same way, especially the part I bolded.

B1tO'RoughJack
25-07-2012, 18:20
“Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people.” ― Gore Vidal, Sexually Speaking: Collected Sex Writings

I'm amazed that not only do people sometimes have major crises of identity about having had a momentary sexual encounter, I've actually known people to have serious doubts about their identity because someone hit on them , didn't hit on them, because they got an erection or didn't,--so much stuff that I find transitory fluff. I suppose though there are more bizarre ontological crises though. Identity invested in name brand products makes even less sense to me.fucking great post...I've been considering things like this myself after having had a crisis end early on in the year which has been going the past year or so(well...longer really, but in a big way for a year) - sexuality is such a strange thing - I reckon crisis doesn't happen so much in teh east as it does in the west - here in the west everything has got a fuckin label...

Noodle(Cheerio?! REALLY?!?! lol) - shut up dude! Just playing devil's advocate <3 ;)

Slm1969
15-01-2013, 04:46
Excellent post!! you are right on target. If only more people would think as openly!! Maybe many do, it could be that our social mores taught to us since birth stand in the way of our true self/being!

Slm1969
15-01-2013, 04:50
If we would admit it we are all a little gay, since the first time we jerked off. Think of who showed you how, how many times have you fantsized about him beating his meat. Society has told us since birth that homosexuality is wrong, therefore there is no way we would let any one know we have any thought about it. Meth just take the inhibitions away, in many ways we become real. I am not a heavy user, but when I do I will get with anyone if I can, male, female, tranny...I think the earlier cultures were less inhibited about sexuality and may be a lesson for us to learn. I realize most great ancient empires crumbled, but I don't believe it has any thing to do with sex, but rather political ambition. America is on its way!! It would be nice to live in a world without labels, and where people just ARE!!!

Lysis
15-01-2013, 04:55
^ FYI: It might be easier for people to understand your way of thinking if you quoted people, since you are responding to an old thread. :)

Pagey
16-01-2013, 00:23
If we would admit it we are all a little gay, since the first time we jerked off. Think of who showed you how, how many times have you fantsized about him beating his meat. Society has told us since birth that homosexuality is wrong, therefore there is no way we would let any one know we have any thought about it. Meth just take the inhibitions away, in many ways we become real. I am not a heavy user, but when I do I will get with anyone if I can, male, female, tranny...I think the earlier cultures were less inhibited about sexuality and may be a lesson for us to learn. I realize most great ancient empires crumbled, but I don't believe it has any thing to do with sex, but rather political ambition. America is on its way!! It would be nice to live in a world without labels, and where people just ARE!!!

I agree with this. I don't think anyone is 100% straight or 100% gay, but we're all somewhere on a scale between the two, and drugs just lower our inhibitions. I know when I'm high I'm more likely to get with women even though I don't particularly want to when sober, and I'm not even talking about meth since I've never tried it.

Serotonin101
16-01-2013, 00:52
I agree with this. I don't think anyone is 100% straight or 100% gay, but we're all somewhere on a scale between the two, and drugs just lower our inhibitions. I know when I'm high I'm more likely to get with women even though I don't particularly want to when sober, and I'm not even talking about meth since I've never tried it.
and we in the psychology world call this the kinsey scale (sometimes referred to as the grey scale which is where sasha grey got her name from).

B1tO'RoughJack
16-01-2013, 19:33
^Bruv unless you put our heads in the sand, or are just very earthy salt of the earth practical people, we are ALL part of the psychology world - we don't need Kinsey to tell us anything.

From my observations, discussions and research - few people are entirely homosexual, few people are entirely heterosexual, most people are bisexual - ALL people are sexual, even if they be Asexual.
If we would admit it we are all a little gay, since the first time we jerked off. Think of who showed you how, how many times have you fantsized about him beating his meat. Society has told us since birth that homosexuality is wrong, therefore there is no way we would let any one know we have any thought about it. Meth just take the inhibitions away, in many ways we become real. I am not a heavy user, but when I do I will get with anyone if I can, male, female, tranny...I think the earlier cultures were less inhibited about sexuality and may be a lesson for us to learn. I realize most great ancient empires crumbled, but I don't believe it has any thing to do with sex, but rather political ambition. America is on its way!! It would be nice to live in a world without labels, and where people just ARE!!!

Everything is cyclical. One day everyone will see things for how they really are.

augustaB
17-01-2013, 02:07
It makes you very horny and lowers inhibitions. It wont make you gay though, it'll just make you comfortable with fucking men if you were previously in denial, and then you will wish to do so. So basically its just you coming out of the closet to yourself. Not really that big of a deal. Gay and straight is a sliding scale, not a black and white thing.

I definitely agree. Mix in some E with the speed and you can have a really good time and never look back.

farfrmqitn
09-03-2013, 05:15
Does anyone else think that a straight man that desires prostate stimulation while on meth from a female is normal. My man would hide in the bathroom before comfortable enough to request anal play from me and give himself earth shattering orgasms shortly after doing meth. I was so excited to finally share the Experience. I do however think that this is normal heterosexual need for men heightened on meth. The placement of the prostate can't be accidental or why would it feel so good I guess is what I think

Pagey
09-03-2013, 13:29
^I think you could see it as normal even if he wasn't on meth really.

maniquan
15-03-2013, 00:00
I've done the whole prostate stimulation with with ex's of mine. Honestly just because I man is comfortable enough to know that this kind of stimulation feels good and is ok with it doesn't mean that he "desires" a man. Sexuality is the most relative thing in the world. I know dudes who are into real kinky shit like geting fucked by their girlfriends but they do not find the male body attractive. I just wish people would get over themselves, the only rule in the sex game is make sure there is full consent and prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancy by taking precautionary measures. Its 2013 people.

maniquan
15-03-2013, 00:01
In other words, I wouldn't worry about it farfrmqtn

aussie101
15-03-2013, 00:53
Fucking LOL. I have gay friends that do all kinds of strange things on meth. I smoked it with them a few times, but never got even a little gay.

I remember one night I took a couple of girls out to a gay club and the two girls were pashing each other... I am more familiar with girls getting gay/lesbian on meth. Especially in Thailand where there is ya-ba (meth pills) everywhere, the Thai chicks love that shit and fuck all night on it

michael6120
15-03-2013, 04:10
hasnt happened to me yet haha . . I get amazingly open minded and nothing grosses me out when tweeked but I cant ever see myself cross that line.

neversickanymore
15-03-2013, 04:24
IMO a person that does not have any bisexual in them would not be temporarily switched because of a drug.

neversickanymore
15-03-2013, 04:35
Does anyone else think that a straight man that desires prostate stimulation while on meth from a female is normal. My man would hide in the bathroom before comfortable enough to request anal play from me and give himself earth shattering orgasms shortly after doing meth. I was so excited to finally share the Experience. I do however think that this is normal heterosexual need for men heightened on meth. The placement of the prostate can't be accidental or why would it feel so good I guess is what I think

I think the big thing here is by a female.. I mean i guess that all lesbians that use dildos are really closet heterosexuals.. NO, they like a satisfying sexual experience with a woman and you satisfy a pussy with many things, thri most with a dick, finger, tongue, the pussy already knows what it needs just as the person knows who as well as what sex they love attached to these. Just like a strait man may like anal stimulation buy a woman.

DrunkardsDream
15-03-2013, 06:13
IMO a person that does not have any bisexual in them would not be temporarily switched because of a drug.

I agree these guys or men who have sex with other men while on drugs or alcohol are bisexual. I am gay and it's not like when I get drunk or have used drugs I somehow start craving women or get turned on by women since I'm not bisexual at all.

TheJasnSensation
18-03-2013, 00:38
I don't think drugs can make you gay

I don't think being high and experimenting with the same sex makes you gay.

I think being gay is when you are attracted to and would have a relationship with the same sex.

So I don't think there is anything to worry about

Morphling
18-03-2013, 02:32
I'm gay and made out with women under the influence of meth and booze, booze by itself, and nothing at all, but see, that's normal for me, I'm a makeout slut and love everybody. No amount of even massive amounts of drugs have ever made me sleep with anyone I wasn't already going to.

muschusl8r
25-03-2013, 19:39
Ok straight , very straight but meth makes me strangely attracted to hot Tranny's/Ladyboys!!! WTF, they must super feminine looking but it is a disturbing side affect, couldn't act on it but find em a turn on???

Captain.Heroin
25-03-2013, 23:06
Ok straight , very straight but meth makes me strangely attracted to hot Tranny's/Ladyboys!!! WTF, they must super feminine looking but it is a disturbing side affect, couldn't act on it but find em a turn on???

^ live your life bro, nothing to be ashamed of

HarrytheHead
30-03-2013, 16:10
Go to a gay bar problem sovled

Bearlove
30-03-2013, 16:30
I was really high on MDMA - don't know what the hell happened but I touched a woman's breast. It did feel pretty good at the time, did MDMA make me straight?

Captain.Heroin
01-04-2013, 14:25
I was really high on MDMA - don't know what the hell happened but I touched a woman's breast. It did feel pretty good at the time, did MDMA make me straight?

Sounds like it lowered your inhibitions, that's all.

smutt butt
07-11-2013, 14:14
When on meth I feel the same. I think about sucking a dick. Dont want no hugging or kissing just the cock.
Only with Meth

sirnatural
07-03-2014, 06:47
Look meth floods your brain with a highly unnatural dopamine and lowers I habitations almost to a disasoative state. Let's see high dopamine low inhibitions I believe you could be 100 str8 and may find bi exciting . I've had these thoughts high but never for a long enough to act on them. I met a couple who wanted me to come fuck her and he'd get to suck my cock, bit he wanted me order him to suck my cock balls and lick my ass while I was fucking her. He wanted me to laugh and make fun of how small and weak he is. I agreed when I was on stimulants but when time to meet I could not do it I had sobered up was think who the fuck agreed. Your like in an anything goes pleasure state when high on meth. I've had thoughts of being gang raped by uneducated dark skin black me who all had to have between 10 and 15 inch thick cocks . And we're mean kinda a prison thing. Not once sober or high have I thought of love or never even remote thought of kissing or affection, that weirdos me out . What I'm getting at is if you've done gay shit while on meth that you would never do sober your probably not gay. But acting on this time after time will eat your masculinity, little by little.. Come on guys there's more to life than drugs . I'm 38 drank hard for 20 and dabbled in every drug you could but I. Every bi or gay thought I've never acted on because they only lasted long, till usually black women that I can't get out of my head for days. I'm afraid I've acted on these so many times I count. Not that I'm ashamed of seeing me with. I feel guilty about multiple sex partners I'll sex with Any Not in love and a committed relationship . You'll sleep better a d treat her with love tolerance and kindness . Guess I've been around the block .

omnipresenthuman
07-03-2014, 16:40
my 2c because I don't think I've seen this point brought up in this thread yet:

if you get extremely horny off of amps and you want to get laid, it's, socially, much easier for a guy to get with a gay guy...with girls, there's just a ton of foreplay, conversation, blah blah blah blah blah, before you can actually get to your place and get it on

I have a lot of experience with being horny as fucking shit while on amps...the craziest shit I've done was masturbate for 3-4 hours (yes...hours) to transsexual porn...that being said, it never made me actually want to go out and have sex with a guy

I am differentiating between transsexual and 'gay' porn here by the way - try to find a regular gay guy who would like transsexual porn - it doesn't turn them on because the tranny is trying to take on the role of a woman

also may as well add this: Freud said it was completely normal for heterosexual males to have fleeting gay fantasies - this literally happens in everyone, even if you would never actually go through with the fantasy in real life...I had to read about this one time in a class where we were talking about how Freud was propositioned by the mother of a gay guy in Germany or something to help 'cure' her son's gayness - Freud said this was impossible to do, and then said this tidbit about how same-sex fantasies are just a fact of life, and, also, that same-sex preferences in real life are just another fact of life for some people...sort of like the Kinsey scale before that shit became invented

Brittyluff
11-03-2014, 03:09
Well my ex..who is now in prison for meth..would get VERY high and lock himself in his bedroom and umm..insert objects that he made into sex toys up his butt. I wasn't aware of this till after moving in with him.

YaBa
15-03-2014, 23:23
I've done the whole prostate stimulation with with ex's of mine. Honestly just because I man is comfortable enough to know that this kind of stimulation feels good and is ok with it doesn't mean that he "desires" a man. Sexuality is the most relative thing in the world. I know dudes who are into real kinky shit like geting fucked by their girlfriends but they do not find the male body attractive. I just wish people would get over themselves, the only rule in the sex game is make sure there is full consent and prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancy by taking precautionary measures. Its 2013 people.

Sounds exactly how I found prostate simulation. It's completely normal and every man enjoys prostate simulation if they just let themselves. I was actually bit confused about my sexuality earlier in my life and tried to have sex with shemale only to find out that actual dick turned me off completely even I'm usually really open minded. After that I still enjoy receiving anal with women very much. There's nothing weird about that, it's the way men are build.

twinn
30-05-2014, 15:53
Not getting why males turn to males. Where im from my homeboys get high and chase females. Lame excuse if you ask me. The gay community is disgusting when they bring meth into their lives. We all know the ending... Not biased just sitting back seeing this shit