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spephspeph
22-08-2011, 14:59
I keep seeing references to them...Can anyone enlighten me here?

Is it something to do with a manifestation of paranoia?

gm777
22-08-2011, 15:49
Its the result that many amp users experience when sleep deprivation and lack of nutrition have triggered the beginning stages of methamphetamine psychosis. It is definitely paranoia manifested in HDTV quality.

Its not always at first though. Let's say you're maybe alone in your home after being awake for three days and nights and out of nowhere you catch someone walking behind you out of the corner of your eye. But you know there isn't a snowballs chance in hell of someone actually being there, but you can feel them there right around the corner spying on you. But you turn around and look anyway, but just to be safe you go ahead and lock yourself in your bedroom.

You start to brush your teeth, and you glance in the mirror at your bed and think you see 2 girls layin there. You quickly look after a 180 degree spin and its empty just a bit unmade. Then you slam the bathroom door and lock the deadbolt. Then you start hearing them (auditory hallucinations) speaking. Voices...conversations that make sense. Sometimes they're friendly, like your Mom... or maybe a couple friends from school that you haven't spoken to in years. And then other times they might be strangers with an agenda of some type or they might be there just to shoot the shit. But why are they in your home?

The longer that you stay awake the more realistic these people really get. Then you end up having full on conversations with people who aren't even fucking there. If you let your mind trick you into this nonsense, especially out in public, you might very well end up in the psych ward in a padded cell. In reality you shouldve just took your ass to bed days ago when that first mother fucker showed itself.

That's my interpretation anyhow. If you're loosing your grip on reality, its time to lay down and get some sleep. When I used to tweak hardcore, usually around day 5, shit started to get real weird and sometimes scary as hell escalating very quickly and usually out of nowhere...without warning. But everybody out there is different.

Hope this explains it a bit...

gm777

Orlando_Doom
22-08-2011, 16:38
The shadow people is the common name for all the hallucinations when binging on amphetamines (meth is notorious here) or actually being in the state of amphetamine psychosis.

There is always "someone" malicious moving always in the corner of your eye, and you can never catch them because when you look there it's gone. But also, shadows themselves actually start moving, shaking, and taking on shapes if you are awake long enough. It doesn't bother me the least anymore since I dropped acid for the first time because the acid somehow clicked my mind into a state of "self-awareness" that never wore off over the years and since then, no drug could overwhelm or instill fear in me, not even a 9-day-meth binge without sleep or food (only LOTS of ice tea and coca cola). Yes, the shadow people are there but I viewed it like I would view the distortions when tripping... I found it fascinating.

Well, gm777 explained it really nicely too, but the thing is: you can't describe it approprietly to someone who never saw them. Like you can never explain to someone how LSD feels. It`s just so far and away removed from everyday human experience, but just like acid, you will instantly recognize them when they come visiting you - this one I promise.

spephspeph
22-08-2011, 17:16
Can you make friends with the shadow people?

verso
22-08-2011, 18:42
I like your avatar, GM, and it's inspired me to change my own...

I had no idea that there was a name for this; I remember not sleeping for a few days and when I finally decided to give it a try, I thought that there was an old woman in front of my television. It was ridiculous and even after propping myself up to get a better look, I still couldn't make sense of the fact that it was merely a reflection and not really an old woman in front of the TV. I was so confused and scared... lol

ColtDan
22-08-2011, 18:56
that sounds fuckin weird, but very fascinating

LogicSoDeveloped
22-08-2011, 22:52
I never got hardcore into amph psychosis but there were days where I'd be awake for up to 48 hours. Around 36-40 hours, I'd start to notice shadows in my vision. Not quite shadow people yet, but I would always turn as there was something uncomfortable about feeling some sort of presence around you, even when you're alone. Luckily I didn't try to make it any farther cause at that point, I'd be so paranoid I thought I might die of exhaustion. I usually would pass out and wake up and eat quite a bit of food while laughing about the paranoia from the night before. Its not so funny when I was experiencing it though. I had never really felt crazy before I stayed up so long on amphs. I've never and never intend on doing meth but Adderall, Ritalin, Vyvanse were strong enough kept me awake for long enough so that I have an understanding of psychosis.

Doctor X
23-08-2011, 07:13
I've seen them when driving severely sleep-deprived. They always remind me of the evil spirits in the movie "Ghost."
Definitely creepy...

verso
23-08-2011, 17:07
I like your avatar, GM, and it's inspired me to change my own...

I had no idea that there was a name for this; I remember not sleeping for a few days and when I finally decided to give it a try, I thought that there was an old woman in front of my television. It was ridiculous and even after propping myself up to get a better look, I still couldn't make sense of the fact that it was merely a reflection and not really an old woman in front of the TV. I was so confused and scared... lol

OK, so now my girlfriend tells me that she, too, has seen the "apparition" of an older woman in my house late at night. (She doesn't do amphetamines.) Now I'm seriously bugging...

purple_cloud
23-08-2011, 19:01
OK, so now my girlfriend tells me that she, too, has seen the "apparition" of an older woman in my house late at night. (She doesn't do amphetamines.) Now I'm seriously bugging...

I don't think drug culture has anything to do with that --- New England = haunted. ;)

Bearlove
23-08-2011, 21:09
They are not friendly 'people' and depending on how deep you are into your 'binge' then they can be quite malicious. I used to see them quite often as I was a heavy speed user - at first, as mentioned above they are just fleeting images and always out of the corner of your eye. As time progresses you can start to feel their presence around you and its just so creepy, if you don't take notice and sleep then it can get just scary. They can become solid forms and are normally out to hurt you - your mind then simply loses grip on what is normal and who is real / not real. If your indoors then you can hear people in the other rooms and they are normally plotting talking about you - running past your door etc. If your outside you will see people doing odd things, ducking into doorways when you look at them, hiding behind cars and stuff like that.

lilczey
23-08-2011, 21:16
doesnt disosictives do this also?

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D n A
24-08-2011, 10:09
doesnt disosictives do this also?

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I've never seen shadow people on dissociatives.
Only on methylenedioxymethamphetamine. I was at first going to say that it isn't only amphs that cause this.. but then I realised..

Anyways, I once encountered the shadow people while I was coming down off some good molly. I was walking home in the dark and there were all these people in the bushes, watching me. People of all shapes and sizes. Some of them just stood there, others shifted a little, and some would dart around the sides of the road. Needless to say I was a little freaked out. I got home, got changed, and jumped in my bed and turned out the lights. Once my eyes adjusted, I could CLEARLY see 5 people in my room. One extremely tall and gangly shadow man was lurking in the corner of my closet. Another was crouched on my desk, watching, while his friend sat in my chair, taking turns looking at the desk person and then me. One sat behind the end of my bed, popping his head up now and then to look at me.
The freakiest shadow person who terrified me the most was right by the side of my bed. He would pop right near my face, grin at me, and then pop down and dart around the room and hover near the other shadow people before hiding beside my bed again. It was horrifying. I shut my eyes as hard as I could and tried to ignore the fact that there were 5 fucking demons in my room. Somehow I managed to fall asleep..

sapphire life
24-08-2011, 10:37
yo FUCK shadow people hahahaa. after a hard ecstasy binge, i used to get these motherfuckers. have conversations with people that don't exist. all that good shit ahh

CuddleFairy
25-08-2011, 07:55
Just like most drugs, it may just be inner projections of yourself. just a lot more terrifying cause that shit is nuts. and they said e puts holes in your brains injecting meth into monkeys. tsk tsk

HYDRO_CHRONIC
25-08-2011, 14:57
this would fucking make me have a heart attack...
jesus christ

i would think demons or ghosts

silvercrimson
26-08-2011, 07:00
those are the guys who non chalauntly drop by to visit when youve been on or going into the 4th or 5th day. they are the ones who move shit around when you get up to do something. for example, you go to use the bathroom and your full glass of water is in the middle of the table. you come back the waters still in the middle of the table but its moved just a tad to the LEFT!! there sneaky little fuckers. on a personal note id be kind of upset and id feel left out of the loop if they WERENT there. you know the dopes good when they come around, because they want to steal it, they know they cant so they just fuck with you instead. ive grown to love to hate them. 8)8)8)8)8)8)

Dizzler
26-08-2011, 10:26
fuck.... you guys really scared me i havent been asleep the whole night and im feeling well disturbed about this i really dont want it to happen to me.
I've hit Mdma 2 days ago, I've been doing it for a long time now and felt absolutely fine the next day, but this time it was different. I've hit 20 pounds worth of it and it was the version that comes in pure mdma crystals. I was out with everyone watching the fireworks everything felt better and more intense then the last time i've done it (probably cause i'v had a long brake since then). When i got home i layed on my bed with my laptop and everything was fine but when i've turned off the laptop and the light, and tried getting some sleep weird shit started happening. (At this time i wasnt thinking straight my mind went into like a day dream mode but i can still remember everything fine).
A man appeared on the floor, I kept on thinking it was my brother i couldn't really see properly because the only light i had was coming from a lamp post outside my house. Then out of no where hundreads of little rats came out and started jumping and playing with my things. At the time i thought this was all really because i was persuaded that mdma under no circumstances will make you hallucinate. I looked at the man again and found out that there is another man laying next to him with a deformed face when i stared at them they looked so really their faces were detailed and clear for me to see , I realised its not my brother laying down but two strange people. I panicked, i thought this was all real, I turned on my lamp and got up , i was gonna run out my room but as i got up everything disapeared. THen I realised its just a hallucination and was calm watching my room as weird shitt happend. For example later on there was a half human half dog pointing a slingshot at my getting ready to shoot me. What i noticed is that when you get close to anything that's a dellusion it disapears. Them people were talking to each other but i couldnt understand what they were saying. At least i slept for few hours that night. The next night which is the night just gone i havent slept at all. I sat on my bed with the light on. I had my laptop so i wont get bored but every few seconds i was laying my eyes on the far end of my bedroom ,where the people kept on appearing, just to check if they're not there again. I feel really paranoid and dont think I will get any sleep this night aswell. I just dont want the thing that you lot described to happen to me :(

by the way this is so hard to describe how it felt and what the people were really like because i never experienced something like this before. This was the first time It happened.

gm777
30-08-2011, 08:42
I like your avatar, GM, and it's inspired me to change my own...

I had no idea that there was a name for this; I remember not sleeping for a few days and when I finally decided to give it a try, I thought that there was an old woman in front of my television. It was ridiculous and even after propping myself up to get a better look, I still couldn't make sense of the fact that it was merely a reflection and not really an old woman in front of the TV. I was so confused and scared... lol

Thanks verso, I actually discovered it while browsing an old art thread in the last version of BL. I assume yours is buy the same artist?

And to clarify something on fear. Its not so much the shadow people that can get scary in prolonged periods of sleep deprivation, its the unbelievably intense paranoia that manifests itself while going along hand in hand with these types of hallucinations. This often times produces high levels of anxiety which causes panic and fear. It can get really intense, really goddamn fast. I don't think I'm above loosing my mind, and it could've happened, but I never let it escalate any further than a few hours past the fun zone. I would always go straight to bed and end it then and there.

Methadone84
30-08-2011, 11:36
Its the result that many amp users experience when sleep deprivation and lack of nutrition have triggered the beginning stages of methamphetamine psychosis. It is definitely paranoia manifested in HDTV quality.

Its not always at first though. Let's say you're maybe alone in your home after being awake for three days and nights and out of nowhere you catch someone walking behind you out of the corner of your eye. But you know there isn't a snowballs chance in hell of someone actually being there, but you can feel them there right around the corner spying on you. But you turn around and look anyway, but just to be safe you go ahead and lock yourself in your bedroom.

You start to brush your teeth, and you glance in the mirror at your bed and think you see 2 girls layin there. You quickly look after a 180 degree spin and its empty just a bit unmade. Then you slam the bathroom door and lock the deadbolt. Then you start hearing them (auditory hallucinations) speaking. Voices...conversations that make sense. Sometimes they're friendly, like your Mom... or maybe a couple friends from school that you haven't spoken to in years. And then other times they might be strangers with an agenda of some type or they might be there just to shoot the shit. But why are they in your home?

The longer that you stay awake the more realistic these people really get. Then you end up having full on conversations with people who aren't even fucking there. If you let your mind trick you into this nonsense, especially out in public, you might very well end up in the psych ward in a padded cell. In reality you shouldve just took your ass to bed days ago when that first mother fucker showed itself.

That's my interpretation anyhow. If you're loosing your grip on reality, its time to lay down and get some sleep. When I used to tweak hardcore, usually around day 5, shit started to get real weird and sometimes scary as hell escalating very quickly and usually out of nowhere...without warning. But everybody out there is different.

Hope this explains it a bit...

gm777

this happens to me without drugs!

skankzilla
04-09-2011, 00:18
Have seen shadow peeps on high doses of Ketamine...they don't seem to be as aggressive, more like just walking around.
I had a major speed binge before my gcse exam and was in the school hall seeing them coming out of the corners of the ceilings. Was fucked up. Still managed to pass though somehow.

Brian242
07-09-2011, 07:13
Diphenhydramine. MotherFUCK.

Rolling Sly
07-09-2011, 12:57
If you have done psychs before and hallucinating weeeiird shit doesnt seem to bother you, then shadow people might not frighten you to death. But I can still definitely say no matter how comfortable I am hallucinating sleep depreivation adds a something a little extra and it still bugs me out. Half the time im like "Im only seeing shit cos im sleep deprived". Then I see a shadow move and that thought goes to the back of my head and then its "Oh shit who the fuck is watching me".8o

Am I the only one that kinda likes getting sleep deprived on a big weekend of amps? Like if the option of sleep is there I just power through to get to that 3rd day where shit gets weird. I dunno, it fascinates me and keeps me on my toes:\

psychomimetic
07-09-2011, 21:12
doesnt disosictives do this also?

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No but deliriants do. Datura, diphenhydramine, etc. Not pleasant but not as shitty as the meth psychosis shadow people.

gm777
10-09-2011, 02:46
If you have done psychs before and hallucinating weeeiird shit doesnt seem to bother you, then shadow people might not frighten you to death. But I can still definitely say no matter how comfortable I am hallucinating sleep depreivation adds a something a little extra and it still bugs me out. Half the time im like "Im only seeing shit cos im sleep deprived". Then I see a shadow move and that thought goes to the back of my head and then its "Oh shit who the fuck is watching me".



Exactly, if it were just hallucinations of people accompanied by euphoric bliss and a sense of well being the shit would be enjoyable. But that's not what happens, (to me). Hearing voices and being paranoid in my own home isn't exactly a my idea of a good time. Definately not fun types of hallucinations. Fear=not fun...


Wikipedia's definition:


Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion.

Folley
10-09-2011, 07:14
My most vivid person was when I was in the car (not driving) coming down of a drug I dont remember and high as shit on weed. Out of the corner of my eye I see a guy in a tuxedo and a small top hat walking in the middle of the freeway.... going 60. He was only there for like a second and when I go to look at him he was gone....
fucking Illuminati man

Kooter
10-09-2011, 07:55
Wow, this thread is making me remember all those crazy times I saw those fuckers. They are always in the shadows too. What gives? Can't they just be in the light sdo I know they are real? Can't they just be cool and not scare the shit out of me?

botfly
10-09-2011, 17:26
I've seen them after a few days on mephedrone. First time I was just lying there watching TV then saw an outline of a man popping out from behind the TV. To me they look like heatwaves in the form of a figure. I live in an old house so just though it was a spirit. Shit me up at first then got used to it afetr a while by telling myself they're harmless. After a while I had loads of them walking around my house, I could even feel them, was like your hairs standing on end when they walk up to you. Crazy stuff, you only get freaked out when you start to comedown. I was looking down my garden and could see them running round my garden, thought they were stealing stuff from my shed lol. The really strange thing was that my dog could see them as well and would make strange noises and look where I was looking and get freaked out. Really fucked up.
I got another symptom where I was walking up the stairs at night and each step would light up as I walked on it. There were these spinning lights right in front of me trying to communicate it seemed. Was cool at the time when I was buzzing but the comedown was hell.
Also had another wierd thing happen where I was lying in bed and held my arm out and it seemed to be getting pulled and moved around by something. Was like the Ouija board thing you get. Very stange indeed.
I also got the bug thing where you see things crawling on your skin. I sort of rationalised it at the time by saying the resident spirit was playing tricks on me. Couldn't see of feel them in the light but when they were covered by clothes or a duvet then they'd appear.

Renz Envy
10-09-2011, 17:41
The sky was full of millions of bats. Possibly miles away. They assumed random shapes. Synchronized.

The road had strange animals crawling into it, in front of my moving vehicle. On either side, people were walking, but they were not there.

When I got home, people appeared in front of me. People with faces. They stepped out from the darkness and would immediately dispense and fall back into the abyss. A man learned into my doorway and kept getting closer and closer to my face until he finally vanished. The whole night, a shape was standing there in the entryway- staring at me.

But somehow I wasn't the least bit frightened!

gaktattack
10-09-2011, 23:07
I call them the shadow-men. My first experience was about 36 hours after a really stupid binge on some dudes barn cooked annie. It was white and was amphetamine not meth. I noticed out of the corner of my eye a shadow sitting at my kitchen table looking at me. He disappeared every time I tried to look at him directly. At the time I saw it as a demonic/negative sign. I wasn't scared of him, he was simply there observing. It felt like he was like "you're my possession now".

I was feeling really horrible at the time, i always start to feel toxic about 8 hours after a speed binge. My speed binges usually were doing a teenth in about a 4 hours. At first all I have to do is eat a little to get high again, and I just continually feel worse and worse. Its impossible for me to sleep for about 3 days after my 4 hour binge and thats with no redosing. Its a terrible strung out feeling, its why I hate speed aside from using mini amounts to simply fight fatigue. Binging on it is no fun for me. I saw them maybe 3 or 4 times on speed.

I used to be a severe alcoholic, perhaps it was a slow form of suicide. I would drink a halfgallon of rum a day with a few beers. Each day I would do this my hangover/toxicity/body death would compound. Id have to quit after about 5 days because it felt so indescribably horrible. When I would close my eyes and rest my head there would be pressure on my eyes from my arm and I could see into a shadow world. My point of view was through the tv mounted on the wall of a shadow bar. There were about 5 people in the bar, and 3 of them standing close to the tv shouting at it but I couldnt hear any sound. It was like they were trapped in there and were pissed at me for trapping them. I saw this maybe 3 times.

I hope this helps. Terrible memories...

BananasAndOranges
11-09-2011, 05:30
this shit is the worse. It gets alll ate up.


I remember one night I even had to ask people around me several times if they were fucking with me. Out of nowhere came a feeling that I was being on camera by someone, watched. I ran to my car as I was not home. I fucking drove. I got home. I heard people yelling my name. I heard people at my window. I sat in a corner for hours knowing not until I locked myself in my Room for those hours it was my being awake so long. It is very realistic. There are other times but thats off my head. It can get reallllllyyyyyy terrifying almost as one would call a Really bad trip, but its was more mind fuck than a bad trip imho. Ever happens, stop what your doc is pronto. It only gets Worse and one thing that would just suck is being spun and sent to a ward. You will feel crazy if it does happen just remember its NOT real. Put headphones on close your eyes, and just TRY to remember its nootttt real. Sounds stupid, but its sooo true.

Folley
11-09-2011, 06:33
The sky was full of millions of bats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8gAtTxWhUY

I think shadow people are real... people from other dimensions...

DJHENRU
11-09-2011, 09:07
Don't forget of the shadow side of the psyche

In Jungian psychology, the shadow or "shadow aspect" is a part of the unconscious mind consisting of repressed weaknesses, shortcomings, and instincts. It is one of the three most recognizable archetypes, the others being the anima and animus and the persona. "Everyone carries a shadow," Jung wrote, "and the less it is embodied in the individual's conscious life, the blacker and denser it is."[1] It may be (in part) one's link to more primitive animal instincts,[2] which are superseded during early childhood by the conscious mind.

Renz Envy
11-09-2011, 22:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8gAtTxWhUY

I think shadow people are real... people from other dimensions...

Haha, that's seriously what I felt like too.

And to your comment, yeah, they're basically like spirits.

StrutterGear
13-09-2011, 21:25
I always see them when on alot of ketamine.... Go outside, to find zulu warrior-lookin' fuckers with spears looking at ya. I look at my friend (heavily tattooed arms) and he sprouts wings, satan style... Joker makeup, the lot. Fucking weird, but on ketamine I know it's not real...

Tenchi
13-09-2011, 22:20
Hell, I can see one out of the corner of my eye right this second. Just hit hour 56 without sleep due to amphetamine base paste. Staying awake until a sensible hour that will be conducive to sleep, and right now, this ain't it.

Renz Envy
13-09-2011, 23:11
Hell, I can see one out of the corner of my eye right this second. Just hit hour 56 without sleep due to amphetamine base paste. Staying awake until a sensible hour that will be conducive to sleep, and right now, this ain't it.

Amphetamine base paste...? Do inform me.

Tenchi
13-09-2011, 23:23
Quite a bit stronger and more pure than Amphetamine Sulphate, which is just your regular street speed, normally powder that's cut to bits. Base tends to be quite a considerable amount stronger (and as such can leave painful burns on the tongue if youi're not parachuting or dissolving it. It has a consistensy akin to window glazers putty. It's gooood. =D

epiks
14-09-2011, 00:10
Hahah, I remember telling my friends "Look..The shadow people are back. And they're dancing all over the walls"

I didn't know this was a common term!

Tenchi
14-09-2011, 00:23
Yup, and not just common within the confines of your country. Although, I think the symptoms of my sleep deprivation are increasing. Shadows are now purple, and my couches are breathing, lol.

BananasAndOranges
14-09-2011, 01:38
Dont forget the light ghosts. Ever look at a light and watch a light shadow swirl around the lights? These are not like spirits. Theyre like demons that want to bring you down. I hate when it happens. Its scarier than a bad trip.

Tenchi
14-09-2011, 19:06
Things did get a bit more weird before I had to concede defeat and pass out. 3 shadow people of varying heights in my kitchen, and a rather vivid delusion of an elderly woman sitting on my living room floor. I was looking at the rug, lol. After that one, I had to throw in the towel, heh.

EndlessSummer
15-09-2011, 02:37
I've spent a night on a well-drawn pentagram inscribed with the names of God, the element symbols, and zodiacal symbols awash with candlelight, chalices, athames, and scrying simulatenously into a broken mirror and a black mirror while high and did not see any shadow people. I was half expecting my countenance to start getting all black-eyed and start mocking me in Latin, but did not expect nor did I see any shadow people.

I was very disappointed. :(

Maybe next time I'll aim for summoning a demon.

freemind
15-09-2011, 23:48
I've seen them when driving severely sleep-deprived. They always remind me of the evil spirits in the movie "Ghost."
Definitely creepy...
Is it possible to see them without using amps, only with sleep deprivation?

my name?
10-06-2012, 07:42
These things are real.i saw one when i was 7.i was fuckin traumatised.i think when people tweak it somehow tunes them into the spirit world.

g0to
10-06-2012, 08:14
I think its just people staying up for a while their mind gets tired and starts to lose the plot a bit, ie: they start seeing things arent there; figments of their imagination. Can be cool or scary depending on your outlook, when I started seeing shit around day 3 of the stim binge it was always a sign of "you need to get some sleep for real" and "dang my brain is cool".

3,4-dihydroxyphen
10-06-2012, 08:20
I've had some crazy ass experiences with this shit. Fortunately I learned my lesson quick and stopped binging for 5 days or more after my second run-in with amphetamine psychosis. Due to having used lots of LSD and assorted hallucinogens, the hallucinations don't really bother me, until day 5 comes around and I become so delusional that I begin talking to completely imaginary people while alone, or worse yet, begin projecting imaginary traits on to real people and have conversations that go beyond fucked up. Nobody likes to have crazy, nonsensical paranoid accusations thrown at them.

I also ran into some imaginary people during an 8 day brief psychotic episode, except I was in imaginary places as well. So not cool.

My binges go no longer than three days anymore (usually including comedown time, provided I stop at the right time), 4 isn't even worth it. Actually more like 2 days lately, but three is the absolute limit. The moment I can't concentrate on reading a page or doing relatively simple math anymore, shit has to end.

drdoctor
10-06-2012, 08:22
You want shadow people, and other persecutory delusions, look no further than MDPV or a-PVP. Doesn't take days or even any/much sleep deprivation before dopamine imbalance causes one to enter a state mimicking paranoid schizophrenia. This state becomes remarkably easy to achieve after a few heavy periods of abuse. Despite the occasional novelty of encountering beings and hearing things that seem absolutely impossible to be originating from ones own brain/psyche, the experience is usually truly miserable and is likely quite damaging (organically and/or psychologically) .

Not recommended.

Al64
10-06-2012, 09:00
benedryl??

eldub v7.0
10-06-2012, 11:48
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peduncular_hallucinosis

good fun.