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Study finds link between Ecstasy and Parkinson's... NOT!

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(jb: scroll to the bottom for the retraction)

Thursday, September 26, 2002 Posted: 4:06 PM EDT (2006 GMT)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Partying with Ecstasy several times a night, a common practice among users of the illegal drug, may damage key neurons in the brain and perhaps hasten the onset of Parkinson's disease, according to a study in monkeys.

But some researchers were skeptical that the results from the animal studies translate to humans and said such studies discourage research that might lead to medical uses for Ecstasy.
A Johns Hopkins University researcher injected squirrel monkeys and baboons with three shots of Ecstasy, also known as MDMA, three hours apart, mimicking dosages "often used by MDMA users at all-night dance parties." He said the drug caused enduring damage to dopamine-producing neurons in the brains of the animals.

The damage was still evident two weeks to six weeks later, said Dr. George A. Recaurte, the lead author the study appearing this week in the journal Science. But he said it is not clear if the damaged neurons will repair themselves, a key factor in whether Ecstasy could cause Parkinson's disease.

Parkinson's disease is a brain disorder triggered by the permanent loss of dopamine-producing nerve cells.

"We already know from the literature that brain dopamine declines with age," he said. "A young individual who sustains injury to these dopamine cells and depletes their reserve may be at greater risk of Parkinsonism."

But Julie A. Holland, a psychiatrist on the faculty of the New York University School of Medicine, said earlier studies on humans have failed to show that Ecstasy causes permanent damage to dopamine neurons.

"It is a big leap to extrapolate what he is seeing in these primates and what you expect to see in Parkinson's syndrome," Holland, the author of a book on the risk and recreational use of Ecstasy.

She said Ricaurte's research has helped "demonize" Ecstasy and prevented studies to determine if the drug could be used to treat post traumatic syndrome.

Dr. Alan I. Leshner, former head of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, however, said the Ricaurte study shows "that even an occasional use of Ecstasy can lead to significant damage to brain systems."

Stephen Kish, a University of Toronto researcher studying Parkinson's disease and Ecstasy, said he analyzed the brain of a deceased habitual Ecstasy user two years ago and found no evidence of dopamine neuron damage.

"Ricaurte's findings do raise a concern that Ecstasy may damage the dopamine neurons and potentially cause Parkinson's," said Kish. But he said the current study "might not translate to humans" and has not proven a clear connection between the drug and the brain disease.

In the study, the animals were given six milligrams for every 2.2 pounds of their weight. One of five monkeys and one of five baboons used in the study died shortly after receiving the shots.
The brains of the surviving animals were examined microscopically and chemically after two to eight weeks. The nerve endings where the dopamine is processed were destroyed, said Ricaurte.
"There hasn't been a single animal that escaped the dopamine (cell) lesions," he said.

Ricaurte said the damage was not enough to cause Parkinson's symptoms, but there is "a clinical concern" that repeated use of Ecstasy will diminish the natural reserve of brain cells and lead to early disease.

Holland said Ricaurte's study in monkeys and baboons does not relate to the experience of human recreational users of Ecstasy.
"The dose that he gave killed 20 percent of the animals immediately," said Holland. "Clearly these animals reacted to the drug differently than humans because not one out of five Ecstasy users drops dead."

Also, she said Ricaurte's study injected Ecstasy, while most human users take the drug orally. Drugs taken orally are less concentrated in the body than drugs that are injected, said Holland.

The NYU psychiatrist said "there is a lot of politics involved" in Ricaurte's study because the government does not want to allow medical research with Ecstasy, even though it has been approved for study by the Food and Drug Administration.
Ricaurte's research has been funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, the agency Leshner once headed. Leshner is now chief executive officer of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the organization that publishes Science, the journal printing Ricaurte's current study on Ecstasy.
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Good Article,
Interesting to see who actually funded the research. This happens a lot in the dairy/meat industry as well, especially in the US, where the desired outcome can be "bought" by funding !!
 
I seem to remember a thread along these lines recently but can't find it.
I would like to know the details of the study. Not only do most people take their MDMA orally, but they also take pills not pure MDMA. As we all know pills contain many other additives, including speed, which is known to increase effects of parkinsons.
 
for fucks sake....
A Johns Hopkins University researcher injected squirrel monkeys and baboons with three shots of Ecstasy, also known as MDMA, three hours apart, mimicking dosages "often used by MDMA users at all-night dance parties."
In the study, the animals were given six milligrams for every 2.2 pounds of their weight. One of five monkeys and one of five baboons used in the study died shortly after receiving the shots.
So your typical raver who weighs say 150 pounds is going to inject over 400mg of MDMA (equivalent of 5 pills!) every three hours at an all-night dance party?!?
No wonder the monkeys were fucked up.
This study (like the rest) sounds like a crock of shit!
[edit: perhaps i mis-read the article... i suppose if the 400mg was spread over the three injections then it would be more realistic]
[ 27 September 2002: Message edited by: mashedpotatohead ]
 
^^^^
That is still a lot of MDMA. If I told you I had 5 pills over a twelve hour period you would think I'm crazy.
 
Last year a study was done in which people with progressed Parkinson's Disease actually benefited from taking MDMA due to te serotonin release in the brain affecting some small part in the brain - dont remember which thou.
Rigid movements became much more fluid as well as speech and daily tasks were easier to accomplish.
SBS doco. last year. I think it was written up here after.
 
Sllip. The fucked up thing is, i wouldn't think you were crazy for dropping 5 pills in a twelve hour period. Yeah it's alot (too much), but i used to do that on a regular basis and i know people who still do! I'm living in the UK at the moment... at £2-3 a pill what do you do? Drop 5 pills or have three of four drinks?!?...as a result, dropping 5+ pills a night is common place in certain clubs over here.
I also have a mate who dropped 15+ pills in one sitting!!... which would put him in the 1200mg range that the fucked up Monkeys received. And yeah he was fucked up for a good couple of weeks after (and arguably lucky to be alive) , but fully recovered now (and far more sensible these days).
 
I'm not a nurologist, so I'm not going to sit here and say that artical is bullshit... :)
Then again, everyone's an expert these days...
 
For more information/discussions about this topic, you may like to check out "Ecstasy discussion" which is located under the heading of Drug Discussion on the Forums page of Bluelight !
 
I guess the fact that NIDA funds most if not all of Ricaurte’s research doesn't really add to his credibility in presenting his conclusions. A number of his studies have been criticised by other scientists.
It is important to realise the potential of neurotoxins such as MDMA to affect DA and other neurotransmitter producing neurons. As mentioned, age sees a decline in the number of these DA cells. Alterations caused by subtle MDMA effects, could take 30 years to surface. Toxicology is full of such examples. The fact that exact MDMA mechanisms are not known, and those which are seem to be highly interdependent, should at least generate a cautious approach to use.
Keep an open mind, and don't set your beliefs in concrete too quickly. With some noteworthy exceptions, most of the current evidence is not beyond dispute. It's just that it costs big dollars to convincingly argue.
 
a much more balanced article here. it's just a shame they had to use that "agony/ecstasy" cliche... *sigh*

On Ecstasy, Consensus Is Elusive
Study Suggesting Risk of Brain Damage Questioned by Critics of Methodology

By Rick Weiss
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 30, 2002; Page A07

New research has escalated a decades-old scientific and political battle over the risks inherent in the popular street drug known as Ecstasy.

A synthetic chemical cousin of "speed," Ecstasy already had a rap sheet as long as its chemical name: 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA. Studies in animals have suggested it may be toxic to brain cells that help regulate mood. It's been linked to memory impairment in some users. And rarely the drug triggers a mysterious reaction in which the body becomes radically overheated, causing sudden death.
If that weren't enough to make potential users think twice, Ecstasy is highly illegal. The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) has placed it in its most restrictive "schedule 1" category, meaning it has no medical value and carries serious risks.

Last week, researchers added to the agony of Ecstasy by reporting in the Sept. 27 issue of Science that, in monkeys, at least, even one night's indulgence in the drug may increase the odds of getting Parkinson's disease. Yet despite all the evidence against it, Ecstasy's popularity has only grown in recent years, with about 10 percent of U.S. high school students saying they've tried it in the past 12 months. That pattern is testimony to the profound sense of peace and open-heartedness that Ecstasy users say the drug delivers. But it is also the result of a deep distrust of the evidence of Ecstasy's harm -- not only by youthful partygoers but also by a cadre of scientists and others who have been arguing with increasing fervor that much of the work, including the latest study, is flawed.

A close look at the evidence presented by both sides shows how difficult it can be to judge the long-term significance of drug-induced changes in the brain.

Ecstasy produces its pleasurable effects largely by making neurons secrete massive amounts of serotonin, the same chemical that is the target of some antidepressants. Studies in monkeys -- and less definitive studies in people -- have suggested that Ecstasy can damage the tiny branching fibers that allow those neurons to communicate with nearby cells, perhaps permanently.

George Ricaurte, a Johns Hopkins University neurologist who has led many Ecstasy studies, said the evidence is overwhelming that the drug is dangerous. "My belief and the belief of the vast majority of others is that the [serotonin-producing] nerve endings are destroyed by the drug. It is a pruning, if you will."

Others, however, strongly disagree. They say results in animals have varied so much from species to species -- and the doses given the animals have been so high -- that extrapolation to humans is unreliable. Moreover, they say, human studies have rarely controlled for concomitant use of other drugs (some scientists think the small memory decline seen in some Ecstasy studies is actually due to participants' use of marijuana). And the few human brain scan studies that have been published used old and untrustworthy imaging technology.

"In my opinion . . . these studies are so flawed in terms of the technology used that one cannot derive any conclusion from them at all," said Stephen Kish, another leading Ecstasy researcher and chief of the human neurochemical pathology laboratory at the Center for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto.
The newest study, led by Ricaurte and involving monkeys and baboons, sought to more closely mimic human Ecstasy use by giving three consecutive doses of the drug at three-hour intervals -- as if the animals were at an all-night "rave." In contrast to previous human studies, brain scans found evidence of damage not only to serotonin neurons but also to neurons that produce dopamine.

Dopamine levels were down about 65 percent six weeks after the test. If those reductions are permanent, Ricaurte said, users may be vulnerable to early-onset Parkinson's (which is caused by reductions of about 90 percent) when levels drop further as a natural result of aging. "The margin of safety for MDMA appears to be extremely small, if present at all," he said.
Alan Leshner, former director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and chief executive of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, which publishes Science, agreed. "This says even a single evening's use is playing Russian roulette with your own brain," he said.

Critics, however, noted that the drug was given in human-equivalent doses but was injected into the animals, a route that Ricaurte himself has shown to be twice as potent as taking the drug orally. Adding to evidence that the test involved overdoses, two of the 10 animals in the experiment died quickly after their second or third dose and two others became so sick they could not take the third dose.

"How come 40 percent of people who are doing this drug are not dying or almost dying?" asked Rick Doblin, president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, a Sarasota-based organization that funds research on therapeutic uses of mind-altering drugs.

Several experts said Parkinson's symptoms have never been associated with Ecstasy users -- even those who have been taking it regularly for years. Some called the new work the latest in a string of biased studies sponsored by the federal government.

Federally funded research on Ecstasy is "an egregious example of the politicization of science," said Charles Grob, a neuropsychiatrist at the University of California at Los Angeles School of Medicine, in testimony last year before the U.S. Sentencing Commission. "Much of the NIDA-promoted research record . . . suffers from serious flaws in methodological design, questionable manipulation of data, and misleading and deceptive reporting in the professional literature and to the media."

Kish of Toronto said the one serious risk clearly linked to Ecstasy is "malignant hyperthermia," an unpredictable onset of high fever and sudden death. He said New York, a city estimated to have thousands of users, experiences about one death a year linked to Ecstasy by itself and about seven a year involving Ecstasy with other drugs. Leshner's Russian roulette analogy only makes sense, he said, if one imagines a gun with one bullet and "thousands and thousands and thousands of chambers."
To be sure, Kish said, that risk is not zero and needs to be taken seriously. And the picture could get worse when definitive human brain imaging studies are completed in the next year or so. New, high-tech equipment being used in those studies should settle the question of neuronal damage.

But if the results amount to something less than an indictment, then scientists will have to consider whether the potential psychological benefits might in some cases be worth the risks. That will require a new batch of studies, looking not for damage but for evidence of healing.

Last fall, the Food and Drug Administration gave the green light to the first such study, which would test Ecstasy's usefulness as an adjunct to therapy for people with post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of sexual or other violent assaults.
That study, sponsored by Doblin's organization and set to take place in Charleston, S.C., is awaiting approval by the DEA.
Marsha Rosenbaum, a director at the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance, warned that anti-drug advocates could harm their own cause by just saying no to the possibility that some illicit drugs might be therapeutic.

"Like everyone, young people stop trusting you when you bend the truth to scare them," Rosenbaum said in a statement. "Good science, not misguided fear, is what helps us talk honestly and effectively with our teenagers about drug use and their safety."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A14627-2002Sep28?language=printer
 
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these are good figures to have handy;

In the United States, Baggott et al. estimated that the number of Emergency Department (ED) visits by Ecstasy-users is currently between 2.9 to 3.6 per 10,000 ecstasy-use sessions (Baggott 2001). These are 3 in 10,000 emergency-room visits, not deaths. An Australian study estimated that there were around 11 ED visits per 10,000 use sessions. According to Baggott, "Deaths relating to ecstasy use are poorly documented in the US. Gore (1999) estimated that 0.21 ecstasy-related deaths per 10,000 illicit users occurred annually in England from 1995-96 and 0.87 ecstasy-related deaths per 10,000 illicit users occurred annually in Scotland from 1995-97."
 
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And now comes the retraction....
Will be very interesting to see what happens now, given how this study has been bandied round.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/health/AP-Science-Retraction.html

Scientific Journal Prints Retraction
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A prestigious scientific journal is retracting a study about the effects of the drug Ecstasy on the brain because the animals used in the research were given a different drug.

The researchers blamed the error on a labeling mix-up.

Previous studies had reported on the brain hazards of Ecstasy, and the researchers said the problems with their study did not call into question the earlier ones.

Scientists at Johns Hopkins University reported in September 2002 that key neurons in the brains of squirrel monkeys and baboons were damaged when the animals were given doses of Ecstasy that mimicked those often taken by users of the drug during all-night dance parties.

The researchers said the study raised questions about whether Ecstasy -- also known as MDMA -- might hasten the onset of Parkinson's disease, a disorder triggered by the permanent loss of dopamine-producing nerve cells. It was those nerve cells that were reported to have been damaged by Ecstasy in the Johns Hopkins research.

In retracting the story, the journal Science said Friday that the researchers discovered that labels on drugs supplied to them by an outside company were incorrect and the animals had actually been given a different drug, methamphetamine.

Methamphetamine would be expected to produce the brain damage seen in the animals, the researchers said in their retraction.

Ecstasy is methylenedioxymethamphetamine. Both are forms of amphetamine but with different added chemicals and chemical action, said researcher Dr. Una McCann.

She explained that a bottle of MDMA and a bottle of methamphetamine were delivered to the lab the same day, from the same supplier, for different research purposes.

When the researchers had trouble duplicating some of their work they began to suspect problems, she explained. They had the bottle labeled methamphetamine analyzed by three labs and all reported it was pure MDMA -- and the brains of two animals that had died following the experiment were found to contain methamphetamine, not MDMA.

``It's a difficult situation ... We pick up where we left off and see what we can do to prevent this from happening again, and we correct the record,'' McCann said.

She said the laboratory has developed a test for use in future studies to make sure it is using the actual drug that the research calls for.
 
phase_dancer: Sorry, I couldn't resist editing the first post. ;)
 
bwahahahhah

Researchers at the VERY PRESTEGIOUS John Hopkin's Medical School administered the wrong drug because of incorrect labelling?? Yeh right. Call my cynical but... well... call me cynical... :)
 
She explained that a bottle of MDMA and a bottle of methamphetamine were delivered to the lab the same day, from the same supplier, for different research purposes.

You know... two drops of Marquis reagent could've saved academic reputations here.

BigTrancer :)
 
^^
=D

But will this make a difference? Here's hoping. :)
 
Needed to be done

That's fine JB. I was concerned when the thread reappeared that the title was misleading in light of what's now known.
 
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