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Pantera
08-02-2011, 21:19
So i've tried hydrocodone and am curious as to what xanax is like. What are the differances? and also whats the same?

and how much is the recommended dose to start?

RandomGuy123
08-02-2011, 21:39
xanax is more of a lazy feeling, with a lot less euphoria than hydrocodone, you are also more likely to not give a fuck about anything.
Try 1-2Mgs first time.

Pantera
08-02-2011, 21:42
i feel lazy and dont give a fuck about anything on hydrocodone. so they are very similiar?

Whipped Dream
08-02-2011, 21:46
Xanax makes you extremely sleepy and stupid. Kinda like being drunk. It also has a reputation of zapping your memory. You'll wake up the next day after 2mg of Xanax and wonder what the fuck happened the night before.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
08-02-2011, 22:05
i feel lazy and don't give a fuck about anything on hydrocodone. so they are very similiar?

The only similarities of the two is that they are both CNS depressants that cause sedation. Benzodiazepines make you not give a fuck in a different way than opiates like hydrocodone. Benzodiazepines numb your emotions so that you don't feel anything which sort of includes pleasure. Benzos don't produce euphoria or give you a buzz. There isn't a "high". Basically benzodiazepines produce sedation and relax you, your mind and your body. They make you feel comfortable which means you can become lazy.

All Benzos have the following purposes:
1. Relief of anxiety (calm you down)
2. Induce sleep
3. Relax muscles
4. Anti-convulsants
5. Amnesiacs

Xanax kicks in very quick, like within 5 minutes and has a short duration of 2.5-3 hours You become very calm quickly, then you'll feel slightly sedated, maybe numb. You MAY feel some euphoria for a few minutes or so but don't expect to. You become relaxed and get lazy like you want to kick back on the couch and do nothing. You may fall asleep and forget about everything.

Unlike hydrocodone, you don't want to take benzodiazepines at school. It is a stupid idea and will probably get caught. You can tell when somebody is fucked up on them. You might stumble around and slur. They are tranquilizers. You don't want to be anywhere you can't sit down. School may have seats but you may just fall asleep and forget where you are when you wake up. Benzos make you very drowsy. You will have regret you took them, it will be no fun to do so. They don't make you really "high".

Pantera
08-02-2011, 22:11
really? taking xanax at school would make me that noticeably different?

Whipped Dream
08-02-2011, 22:11
The only similarities of the two is that they are both CNS depressants that cause sedation. Benzodiazepines make you not give a fuck in a different way than opiates like hydrocodone. Benzodiazepines numb your emotions so that you don't feel anything which sort of includes pleasure. Benzos don't produce euphoria or give you a buzz. There isn't a "high". Basically benzodiazepines produce sedation and relax you, your mind and your body. They make you feel comfortable which means you can become lazy.

All Benzos have the following purposes:
1. Relief of anxiety (calm you down)
2. Induce sleep
3. Relax muscles
4. Anti-convulsants
5. Amnesiacs

Xanax kicks in very quick, like within 5 minutes and has a short duration of 2.5-3 hours You become very calm quickly, then you'll feel slightly sedated, maybe numb. You MAY feel some euphoria for a few minutes or so but don't expect to. You become relaxed and get lazy like you want to kick back on the couch and do nothing. You may fall asleep and forget about everything.

Unlike hydrocodone, you don't want to take benzodiazepines at school. It is a stupid idea and will probably get caught. You can tell when somebody is fucked up on them. You might stumble around and slur. They are tranquilizers. You don't want to be anywhere you can't sit down. School may have seats but you may just fall asleep and forget where you are when you wake up. Benzos make you very drowsy. You will have regret you took them, it will be no fun to do so. They don't make you really "high".

I couldn't have put it more eloquently. VERY GOOD comparison. I get anxiety at work a lot. I popped a Xanax one day just before walking into an important staff meeting. I woke up with everyone around the table laughing at me. Xanax makes you non-functional.

Pantera
08-02-2011, 22:14
i really want to try some.

how commonly is it used recreationally compared to hydrocodone you think?

RedBaron
08-02-2011, 23:57
Both are well known and widely abused.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
08-02-2011, 23:59
i really want to try some.

how commonly is it used recreationally compared to hydrocodone you think?

Well hydrocodone is a more recreational drug and gets you higher.

Depressicaa
09-02-2011, 00:21
It feels like a blackout lol. Its just like drinking without any feeling in your body, which isn't really my kind of high.

Pantera
09-02-2011, 01:40
i need to find a way to get some. this would be great for school in my opinion

akdroid
09-02-2011, 01:59
To me it feels alot like being drunk. I am more aware of what goes on around me than when Im drunk, but my body gets that same lazy(as described earlier) relaxed feeling that I get when drunk. The first time I took xanax I made the mistake of taking a whole 2mg bar and I couldnt even stand up out of my chair without falling back into it after it kicked in lol.

If you havent taken xanax before, I suggest only using .5mg at first. Its also not a drug you want to make a habit out of. I hear of people dying on xanax than almost anything else. Many celebrities have died from mixtures of medications that always seem to include xanax, and if you ever watch Dr.G Medical Examiner, you will notice alot of her autopsies are of ppl who died as a result of complications taking meds including xanax. So just take it when you really need it, its a very dangerous drug to make a habit out of.

Downsey
09-02-2011, 02:08
You cannot compare the high of an opiate to a benzo...two very very different feelings. Opiates (hydrocodone) give you a peaceful warm blissful feeling. Benzos will give you some attributes of being drunk such as not giving a damn, saying whatever is on your mind and feeling tired, but without the "drunk" bodily feeling.

My benzo nights usually involve me getting into a fight, steeling shit and not remembering anything the next morning. I've learned that they are not my cup of tea unless i take a dose that's so minute it's not even worth it. I can't imagine being in school on 1mg+ of xanax, i would be kicked out in a heartbeat.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
09-02-2011, 03:26
I can't imagine being in school on 1mg+ of xanax, i would be kicked out in a heartbeat.

The OP thinks it would be a good idea to take at school LOL

If your looking to be thrown out of school for being drunk than go ahead, take it at school.

Pantera
09-02-2011, 04:08
The OP thinks it would be a good idea to take at school LOL

If your looking to be thrown out of school for being drunk than go ahead, take it at school.

i guarantee i wouldnt be kicked out. I know some people who actually come to school drunk. no ones ever been kicked out.

I'll start off with .5 mg and see how i react to it

im finding a way to do this

Pantera
09-02-2011, 04:10
I have hydrocodone now i need a benzo so my tolerance wont go up really fast. and i'll keep alternating

RandomGuy123
09-02-2011, 04:14
Wish I had some opiates :/.

DMTime_warp
09-02-2011, 04:19
Oh man I had quite a thing going on with xanax back when i was in highschool. I had a lot of anxiety and had been on various medications(ssri's) none of which seemed to work. One day I this girl I knew offered to sell me some. I told her I had never done them so she gave me 2 2mg bars for free to try. That night being anxious about trying it, I took a quarter of it. I noticed a subtle relaxtion 20 minutes later. I decided to take another .25. Felt even better, all my anxiety stopped, I felt normal and pleasantly relaxed. Took the rest of that one plus the other 2mg one, felt sedated and without a care in the world. This turned into an (luckily) moderate addiction fast, the odd thing was is i could remember what i did on them unless i ate more than 8mg or mixed them with alcohol. I'll never forget me and my friend taking 3 each and ending up at hiss place, him talking about wanting a surface piercing and me offering to give him one with a safety pin. We walked to the restroom and I stuck the safety pin through is arm and closed it... Under normal sober circumstances seeing that happen would have made me faint. Also, the withdraws from benzodiazepines are terrible, be careful!

psytaco
09-02-2011, 04:28
i guarantee i wouldnt be kicked out. I know some people who actually come to school drunk. no ones ever been kicked out.

I'll start off with .5 mg and see how i react to it

im finding a way to do this

Famous last words buddy. Don't take drugs at school. I don't want to sound like a parent, but not only will you get kicked out if you get caught, but you won't learn shit. This might not seem like a big deal, but if you don't do anything in school then you really shut alot of doors for your future. Like college, which isn't all about study. If you like getting drunk, high and fucking alot of hot girls then college may be for you.

At least try the drug at home a few times so you know what to expect.

Also, research more. Xanax can be very addictive, and getting addicted to it and having to give up is not a fun experience.

The high isn't that great. You'll feel drowsy, out of it, any anxiety you have will be gone. You feel relaxed (but not like on opiates), there is very little euphoria. Walking might be a bit difficult, as will talking. There is a good chance you will forget most of what you do while on it. also, be warned you might do alot of odd shit you don't remember, I used to do this when I had a valium addiction (valium is another type of benzo), and I'd wake up the next day and be like 'what the fuck happened' with all these weird text messages or phone calls made.

Pantera
09-02-2011, 04:32
i will make sure to start very low. Dont worry i am VERY cautious about taking drugs at school. I remember the first time i took hydrocodone it was at school and i asked here how much i should take. K'd-OUT-in-AZ told me to take 15mg and i took 5mg lol

whats more addictive, xanax or hydrocodone?

Whipped Dream
09-02-2011, 06:57
whats more addictive, xanax or hydrocodone?



6's really. To some its opiates to others its benzos. Its different for everybody.

shady4091
09-02-2011, 09:41
Wow OP, you have to be one of the most immature, irresponsible people I have ever seen on this forum. Why bother coming here if you're not going to listen to what anyone has to say. Three people now have told you that taking drugs in school is a BAD IDEA. I don't give a shit if you haven't been caught yet. Either you will be caught, or your behavior and use will catch up to you in the long run; and like someone pointed out, you won't learn shit.

I hope you do take a bar in school. I hope you stumble around like a retard, pass out in class, and wake up with authorities standing all around you while you fumble your words trying to recall what the fuck happened. I guarantee if you don't get kicked out of school and continue on this way, you'll become addicted and fail all of your classes anyway. You'll wonder "what could have possibly gone wrong in my plan to alternate between two highly addictive drugs to prevent addiction?" But I guess you're too cool for school anyway...

Sorry I'm being a bit harsh but I have a weak spot for people who have too bad a case of the "it'll never happen to me"'s

Bitter and Tainted
09-02-2011, 11:36
Xanax isn't something to fuck around with.

There's lot more (safer) options out there if you're hellbent on experimenting.

Whipped Dream
09-02-2011, 17:14
I guarantee if you take Xanax at school you won't remember ANYTHING your professors told you during class. It's not a functional drug. It's good for times when you have a lot of spare time to wind down and do nothing. Good for weekends and evenings just a few hours before going to bed.

Xanax during school = poor performance. Don't go there.

pally pete
09-02-2011, 18:29
Famous last words buddy. Don't take drugs at school.

Sound advice.

I made the mistake of taking lsd at school once......big mistake! 8o

highhooked
09-02-2011, 19:05
I think if he starts at .5 he should be alright dont you think?

Not suggesting that he take them at school but since he is anyway that sounds like a pretty good dose.

Just be fucking careful dude xanax is a crazy ass drug if you decide ahh ill take .5 more that could be teh difference between not being all fucked up and being FUCKED UP

Its pretty powerful stuff especially if never used before

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
09-02-2011, 19:47
Xanax fucks with your coordination, speech & memory. But don't expect to feel "high" as in intense pleasure or "feeling good". The only people who feel euphoric from them are those who suffer from really bad anxiety because to these people the relief is a great feeling. If you don't suffer from anxiety then chances are you won't feel euphoric. High doses are kind of like getting drunk without the euphoria. But don't expect to feel great.

Warm'nFuzzy
09-02-2011, 19:49
i will make sure to start very low. Dont worry i am VERY cautious about taking drugs at school. I remember the first time i took hydrocodone it was at school and i asked here how much i should take. K'd-OUT-in-AZ told me to take 15mg and i took 5mg lol

whats more addictive, xanax or hydrocodone?

hey man i really think you should try some klonopin instead of xanax. itll last you the whole day through shool, youll feel fucked up stiill but you wont act as fucked up like stumblin and stuff.

i had to make this decision last night actually. it was 5mg xanax or 16mg kpins. im like ehhhh ive never heard anyone ii know talk about kpins but ill get em to test. i took 8mg and it had me feelin like i was on about 5mg xanax ecxept it lasted a loooott longer. i actually chilled smoked 2 blunts went to the movies and came on BL when i got home and was stilllllll fucked up hahah.
btw sorry for the spelling i cant be bothered to fix it

Alex000
09-02-2011, 21:23
Okay, well I have to say that unlike opiates to an opiate-naive person, benzos CAN be okay in setting like school, and still be enjoyed. I wouldn't say benzos get me high, but they can fuck me up if I take enough. A word of advice, with benzos you might not actually be aware of how "fucked up" you are while you are on them, and that might lead to the urge of re-dosing. If you want to use a benzo, especially Xanax, in school I advise a low to moderate dose, and put the rest somewhere else. I would recommend 0.5 mg - 0.75 mg Xanax for someone with no benzo tolerance in a public setting. Often those out to get high off of benzos take much higher doses, and Xanax is very popular in recreational use in the US compared to other benzos. The effects of 0.5 mg - 0.75 mg for you would probably include anxiolysis (anxiety relief), disinhibition, maybe a mood lift, sedation, and possible impairment of motor skills. Also some amnesia is quite possible, say you take a Xanax at school, you might look back on the day as a blur. Opiates and benzos are VERY different. Both are great, both are very addictive (in sort of different ways). I advised in your other thread NOT to take opiates at school, but lowish doses of benzos make a stressful day at school easier, and time seems to speed up a little. Opiates cause true euphoria, benzos don't really do the same, but their effects might be percieved as euphoric by some. I enjoy my benzo most in social situations as it helps with my social anxiety, and if I am up, and about I can "feel" the effects more than I would if I were to just watch television or whatever around the house. Seriously, though only low to moderate doses at school. Too much Xanax, and you will look fucked up, you will be stumbling, bumbling, and it won't be good. A 0.5 mg dose of Xanax I would think perfect for a day at school for someone without any benzo tolerance. NO MORE THAN 1 mg, at school, that just wouldn't work out well.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
09-02-2011, 21:28
Well some people who go to school are prescribed them and get around without stumbling over themselves. I have this feeling you will take it and report back you didn't feel anything. I don't know why, I just have that feeling. But then again, if you were able to get high off 5mg of hydrocodone...

Alex000
09-02-2011, 21:30
Yes, I am prescribed Xanax, and get around just fine, but do have tolerance. I wasn't saying 0.5 mg Xanax would have him stumbling. I really doubt it would. But, if he were to pop a bar or something, I think he would have a number of falls, not to mention all sorts of other trouble.

Ms.NeonLightsxx
09-02-2011, 21:41
Good old znx as i call it lol. As far how xanax makes you feel well that all depends on your dose of xanax. There are several different kinds of xanax out there, peaches, footballs, french fries, all different mgs. I wouldn't recommend taking xanax for the first time in school as you might get extremely sedated, TRUST ME. My first time taking xanax i took a whole bar and a half and could not remember anything that had happened the next morning, including a missing side mirror on my car. Do NOT compare hydrocodone with xanax, completely different substances. Hydrocodone is not as merely as strong as Xanax is and xanax is a benzo which is a totally in return gives u a totally different feeling. Taken in low doses such as a .25 you will feel peaceful, a bit sedated, and less anxiety then you would normally feel. Generally the effects from xanax are the same taken in low doses and high doses, the only difference is taking more will enhance the effects and typically cause you to slur, loss of balance, loss of inhibitions etc. So yea, do not take in school :).

Alex000
09-02-2011, 21:48
I think school would be fine if he reacts normally to a small-ish dose of Xanax. He insisted on doing hydrocodone at school, which I advised against as he has no opiate tolerance, but like you said they are two completely different substances. Maybe the OP should do a test run with the Xanax at home, but I don't think 0.5 mg Xanax is too much. Xanax allows me to function, without it I'd be a nervous reck.

Ms.NeonLightsxx
09-02-2011, 21:48
Oh i also forgot to mention that as a first time user you are unaware as of what to feel coming up on xanax, it doesnt necessarily hit you right away. This is not weed, people. Xanax actually takes anywhere from 15-20 minutes to feel its real effects. You might feel the effects start trickling in the first 10 minutes but remember this is a pill, and it needs to be broken down before you feel anything. With that said, do NOT go thinking it is not working and eat more. Have done it before, and it is not worth it unless you want to be fully incapacitated. Just looking out!

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
09-02-2011, 21:48
I wouldn't recommend taking it at school either because you never know how it may affect you but believe me this kid is stubborn and will take it at school lol. Everybody recommended not to take the hydrocodone at school also but he didn't listen so there is no use in telling him not to take at school. No intention of dissing you Pantera

Azatos
09-02-2011, 21:51
Imo its pretty boring compared to most benzo's but its cool sometimes. When I feel real stressed and can get one or two I'll just kick back play some xbox or chill with friends.

Xanax isn't that great beause it doesn't really have strong muscle relaxing property's aka no body high, all it does is cause sedation and cure anxiety.

Now eat 20-30mg of Valium, smoke a couple bowls or blunt or something. It's the floatiest high I've ever had. Reminds me of coming out of dental anesthesia but a lot more pleasant.

Alex000
09-02-2011, 21:52
I think opiates at school for someone with no tolerance = dysphoric mess. Worst case scenario with benzos would be well pretty bad at school, but not if the doses aren't large, I don't see the issue. Not to advocate he use Xanax everyday, or make a habit out of it, but he is looking for a drug he can use at school. I don't think hydrocodone was a good choice, Xanax however could work. Benzos get a bad rap because those with no tolerance just pop a bar or two, and not think much of it. A quarter of a bar (0.5 mg) is likely to be just fine IMO.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
09-02-2011, 21:53
My benzo preference is Klonopin. If you have a choice go with that. Xanax is overrated and Klonopin is underrated.

rxking377
09-02-2011, 22:02
i've taken xans fo 10 years for anxiety, panic attacks, and seizures. it is a very effective drug if taken correctly, but in high doeses it can make you forget your damn name if you take to much. it is very fast acting and can cause loss of motor functions, slurred speech, and a distorted perception of time, just to name a few. it also has bad withdrawal symptoms if you are a constant user. do not underestimate the potency of this drug, it can make you wake up and and have no recollection of what occured the day before

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
09-02-2011, 22:05
Yeah, blackouts are common if you take too much.

The hardest part is trying to figure out your starting dose if you haven't taken it before.

Pantera
10-02-2011, 01:27
ok, yes i am set on taking it at school if i can even get some.

I will only take .5mg to see how i react to it first. I am very cautious about this. Trust me i wont go and take too much than requested no matter what.

and about taking hydrocodone at school i think its great. Im sure you guys are right about it being better when laying down at home. but taking it at school is great too imo. as soon as you take it the school day is over.

Alex000
10-02-2011, 01:38
Hydrocodone or any opiate has the potential to induce euphoria in any circumstance, but I think the effects of opiates in general can be enjoyed better in a restful, comfortable enviroment. An opiate-naive individual could experience quite unpleasant effects if moving about like one would in school. But you did what you wanted, and that is that. Xanax will be great at school however, but I don't mean more euphoric. What I mean is that the school enviroment is an okay one for low dose benzos, but I would never waste an opiate at school. Opiates and benzos are very different, and I mean very different. Just because they both can cause sedation, doesn't mean they are similar.

Pantera
10-02-2011, 01:42
Hydrocodone or any opiate has the potential to induce euphoria in any circumstance, but I think the effects of opiates in general can be enjoyed better in a restful, comfortable enviroment. An opiate-naive individual could experience quite unpleasant effects if moving about like one would in school. But you did what you wanted, and that is that. Xanax will be great at school however, but I don't mean more euphoric. What I mean is that the school enviroment is an okay one for low dose benzos, but I would never waste an opiate at school. Opiates and benzos are very different, and I mean very different. Just because they both can cause sedation, doesn't mean they are similar.

yeah i have pretty bad social anxiety so i think xanax at school would be great. and yeah i was throwing up in the school bathroom when i took 15mg at school. i felt sooo good before that though. Now i am just doing 10mg. Now whenever i take 10mg though i have a HUGE headache after the good effects go away.

Alex000
10-02-2011, 01:48
Opiates can cause headaches. It isn't unheard of. Benzos at low doses almost certainly won't cause any unpleasant physical effects, except for maybe slight impairment of motor skills. So be careful on the stairs. If you have bad social anxiety, Xanax will help. I might avoid the hydrocodone if I were you, some people don't do well with opiates just because they don't. Benzos pretty much effect everyone the same, not to say that there aren't exceptions, but their effects are pretty predictable for a given situation.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
10-02-2011, 01:49
If you have social anxiety then it may make you feel good taking it at school.

Pantera
10-02-2011, 01:55
the hydrocodone relaxes me at school which without it is completley impossible. it makes me feel better than ive ever felt in my life. Yeah it is very addicting though. yesterday was the first time i took it two days in a row. before that i took it once a month.

Im thinking about getting more for tomorrow. my depression right now is just worse than its ever been and i need something even though i know it can actually make you even more depressed in the end.

i just care too much what people think and im too sensitive. today i was crying in the school bathroom because i was too stressed out. sometimes i act like a complete girl. but theres nothing i can do about it. I dont want to act like a girl i just do lol

Alex000
10-02-2011, 02:07
Okay, Pantera, don't develop an opiate addiction. Easier said than done, but completely possible to prevent an opiate addiction if you aren't yet addicted. That being said, I advise you use the hydrocodone on occassion, taking it several days in a row is asking for addiction. Perhaps, and this is just a perhaps, you might consider seeing a therapist and/or psychiatrist. You sound to be in a hard situation with a lot of anxiety and stress. In the name of harm reduction, I advise you don't self-medicate day to day especially with opiates. Also, Xanax will help with how you're feeling, if you do get access to it, use it sparingly. I wouldn't take Xanax everyday either unless prescribed to you and directed for daily use, even then a benzo habit isn't something you want. Wasn't something I wanted, but it happened. Granted mine isn't large, it is still a potential issue. Whatever you use, use sparingly. Not everyday. And therapy can work wonders, so like I said give it a thought.

Pantera
10-02-2011, 02:13
i cant go to a psychiatrist. im 18 and would have to tell my parents about my problems which i cant do.

this is why i need some xanax. cuz then i could switch on and off them and wouldnt be really addicted to one. like lets say i can do hydrocodone once a week and xanax once a week. this would help so much but honestly i cannot see myself getting any xanax.

Alex000
10-02-2011, 02:20
Why can't you get Xanax, I thought you could? You can tell your parents about your issues, and see a psychiatrist if you want, and they are willing, which they should be. You don't need to go into details, just explain how you have been feeling. A psychiatrist will script you meds, and you could take them if you feel you need meds. A therapist might be something else to consider. I am not saying you absolutely shouldn't self-medicate, but be aware that you are truly playing with fire especially with the opiates. If you can keep it to once a week, great, but everyone says that to themselves at some point.