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Phaemos
16-01-2011, 13:49
What can I use to slow down the heart rate ?

I need somenthing that can help me when I take some stimulants, I need also some to help me to sleep

What are the better things that I can use?

Is there something that I can buy without prescription?

AfterGlow
16-01-2011, 14:41
Stimulants stimulate. Why even bother taking them if you don't like the stimulation?!?!

Phaemos
16-01-2011, 14:43
Stimulants stimulate. Why even bother taking them if you don't like the stimulation?!?!

i like this, but if I need to take a pause what can I take? and after have party I need to sleep what should I take?

phatass
16-01-2011, 14:56
breathing excercises/techniques

Keif' Richards
16-01-2011, 15:13
Benzodiazepines right? Otherwise alcohol, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Phaemos
16-01-2011, 15:18
Benzodiazepines right? Otherwise alcohol, but I wouldn't recommend it.

what kind of benzo? is there some that i can buy without prescription?

3rd_I_blind
16-01-2011, 15:19
if I need to take a pause what can I take? and after have party I need to sleep what should I take?
Just get the decency to order a stimulant with the duration you are looking for.
Don't you think it is kind of amateur-ish to take something that lasts for 10 hrs, when you only need it for 6 hrs? :\

Best way to get your heart rate down is sitting/laying down and doing some meditation or breathing technique, as mentioned before.

Keif' Richards
16-01-2011, 15:22
Oh I guess that was kind of misleading, you're looking for a legal solution. The only good sedatives that I can think of that are OTC are anti-histamines. These won't help with your heart rate or blood pressure issues though, will probably just make them worse. Alcohol is probably the only sure fire thing you can just go pick up at the store and will slow your heart rate, it's obviously very bad for you though, especially in conjunction with stimulants though, so take it for what it is.

To answer your first question, they're all pretty decent for use after speed. My personal favorite is Xanax followed by Valium. And you're not gonna be able to get any of those without a prescription unless you're in Bolivia or something

3rd_I_blind
16-01-2011, 15:39
The only good sedatives that I can think of that are OTC are anti-histamines.
This would definitely not be a good idea.
BTW, they can lower your heart rate, so that's a wrong assumption in the post above.
But they would also cause vasoconstriction, leading to a rise in blood pressure.
Since most stimulants already have your blood pressure in the high range, this is a recipe for disaster.
Disaster as in cardiac failure.

That said, sedation is typically a side-effect of first and second generation anti-histamines.
They are still available OTC, but the third generation is more popular so you'll need to narrow your search for the old ones.
First generation has a lot of muscarinic activity, so is more likely to increase your heart rate.

Z Y G G Y
16-01-2011, 15:47
You asked for a legal solution but most stimulants are not legal anyways. Most of the time you can get xanax from a similar place you got your stimulant.

Without xanax I don't start any kind of stimulant because I wouldn't sleep for much longer than others. IT's never cause problems for me to mix it with stims. 1mg after a night of coke was all I needed to drift off to sleep nicely.

There is nothing better than xanax that I found and trust me I hate stimulants after tha initial rush so I tried things.

Phaemos
16-01-2011, 15:50
ok so where can I find xanax without prescription?
is there something bad about xanax?

StarOceanHouse
16-01-2011, 16:34
ok so where can I find xanax without prescription?


thailand ;)

Phaemos
16-01-2011, 16:47
thailand ;)

then can you send me a link please?

StarOceanHouse
16-01-2011, 17:41
http://www.thaiair.com/

Phaemos
16-01-2011, 17:47
http://www.thaiair.com/

thats funny :)

sorry for my stupid question ;P

treefrog
16-01-2011, 17:51
GHB/GBL good combo with cocaine too smooth out the roughness. Just don't binge on that too much, otherwise you'll get a rebound that makes you more wired than even coke can!! 8o

Phaemos
16-01-2011, 18:09
GHB/GBL good combo with cocaine too smooth out the roughness. Just don't binge on that too much, otherwise you'll get a rebound that makes you more wired than even coke can!! 8o

yeah thats right, ghb help to sleep too! thanks mate ill think about it

so should i take GHB or xanax? I think that ghb its less dangerous

treefrog
16-01-2011, 18:13
yeah thats right, ghb help to sleep too! thanks mate ill think about it

so should i take GHB or xanax? I think that ghb its less dangerous

In my view, GHB less addictive than xanax, AND more euphoric. Xanax kills off all the coke euphoria, GHB doesn't. It just synergizes with it and make you calm.

Phaemos
16-01-2011, 18:23
In my view, GHB less addictive than xanax, AND more euphoric. Xanax kills off all the coke euphoria, GHB doesn't. It just synergizes with it and make you calm.

thats right, I thinks that ghb its one of the substances less dangerous :)

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
16-01-2011, 19:35
GHB less dangerous?? You can easily OD on GHB if you take a little too much. You'd have to eat prescription bottle after prescription bottle...after another prescription bottle to OD on benzodiazepines. Benzodiazepines are safer than most any drug on the market just as long you don't combine them with other sedatives. What dope said GHB was safer??

Depressicaa
16-01-2011, 19:41
Its safe in OD, rather than to OD on.

For the OP, heart medications are what you want if you want a non controlled substance. Something ending in lol tends to be what they're named, lol.

treefrog
16-01-2011, 19:49
GHB less dangerous?? You can easily OD on GHB if you take a little too much. You'd have to eat prescription bottle after prescription bottle...after another prescription bottle to OD on benzodiazepines. Benzodiazepines are safer than most any drug on the market just as long you don't combine them with other sedatives. What dope said GHB was safer??

You have a point, I was mainly talking about addiction. But, if you take the right dose of GHB, and don't add alcohol, then it is pretty safe. GHB is very dose-dependent.

M3L1k3s2G3tH1gh
16-01-2011, 23:54
Honestly, I wouldn't recommend all the other substances that others suggested. No sense in taking an illicit substance to counteract a side effect of a medication.
The safe way (in my opinion) would be to ask a doctor for Inderall (generic: propranolol). It's a beta blocker and its not a scheduled (controlled) drug so it shouldn't be too hard to ask for. Just say you get headaches a lot since that is one of the reasons it is prescribed.

BIGsherm7272
17-01-2011, 11:41
Honestly, I wouldn't recommend all the other substances that others suggested. No sense in taking an illicit substance to counteract a side effect of a medication.
The safe way (in my opinion) would be to ask a doctor for Inderall (generic: propranolol). It's a beta blocker and its not a scheduled (controlled) drug so it shouldn't be too hard to ask for. Just say you get headaches a lot since that is one of the reasons it is prescribed.

What medication are you talking about? The OP never mentioned what stimulant he was referring to, so it could also be an illicit substance, but this does not really matter......To the OP, benzos are probably your best bet because they help lower your anxiety and also lower your bp/heart rate.

verso
17-01-2011, 17:59
The short answer to your question is this: No. Your body chemistry is surely different from mine, but I can tell you that, in my experience, a benzo will not help to lower your blood pressure in any meaningful way. I love stimulants, but it was a romance damned from the very start. Because sooner or later, the rational person inside you will peer out from behind those tired eyes and shake his head at the ridiculously high numbers appearing on the blood pressure machine at Wal*Mart. It's scary, very scary...

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
17-01-2011, 22:55
Benzodiazepines are the best suggestion.

3rd_I_blind
18-01-2011, 08:57
Benzodiazepines are the best suggestion.
Have you even read all the other suggestions? :\
Always those fucking one-sentence-is-enough-'cause-I'm-the-fucking-professor responses.

It might be contrary to what you would expect (that's the fucking reason you should RTFM/UTFSE in the first place; expectations might be wrong) but benzo's do NOT lower your heart rate. [ARTICLE (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18175099)]
They might lower your blood pressure, which is desirable when using stimulants, but they actually increase your heart rate.

Although the above is concluded from trials in healthy subjects, there is no evidence it would be any different in someone on amphetamines.
Benzodiazepines inhibit the baroreceptor reflex, meaning the brain's 'thermostate' for blood pressure is off-baseline, to which the body responds by increasing heart rate to restore the blood pressure.
Since benzo's also cause your blood pressure to drop by other means, this paradoxically leads to an increased heart rate while the blood pressure decreases.

abracadabra girl
20-01-2011, 03:56
I was wondering if high blood pressure medicine would work (ACE inhibitor e.g. lisinopril), but I'm guessing it probably doesn't directly affect the heart rate.