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- = Comedown Guide v1.1 = -
The dreaded comedown. It is an inevitable stage in the consumption of drugs. And with this guide hopefully you will survive it a little better.
There was a thread a little while ago on this topic and it seems many good suggestions came out of it. So I've decided to wrap it all up into a nice little guide for everyone to benefit from.
We've all seen and had nasty comedowns, but it doesn't have to be that way.
The comedown procedure can be divided into three elements:
* Mental State
* Medication
- Part 1
- Part 2
* Activities etc.
MENTAL STATE
We'll cover this first as this is something you will often have to face long before you get the chance to do anything else, this will often begin while you're still out.
Stay positive !
Its remarkable how far a little positive thinking will go. Remember when you take drugs you DO HAVE to comedown, I hesitate to use such ridiculous phrases as seen on that darned anti-drug ad. Its nothing you haven't done before (usually) and you will survive it. There will always be other times to party and take lots of drugs, but for now just accept that its over and move on. And most importantly; it doesn't mean the fun is over.
You will usually be tired, scatty and a little grumpy. So will other people so bear this in mind. Often people become very direct in the way they speak during this period of time, don't take offence and consider this when you speak to others.
The mental state provides a great source of amusement, laugh and joke at how brain fucked you all are, enjoy your stupidity and don't forget to talk UTTER SHIT for hours on end
Avoid stressful situations wherever possible. Avoid police and parents. Even if it isn't obvious you're fucked it is still safer not to have to worry about being confronted as you will no doubt be a little paranoid and are definately in no state to be taxing your mind trying to come up with excuses and half baked stories. Given that, there is a good chance that you will look very messy indeed which doesn't help matters. Also, if you can help it, try not to have anything to worry about during the next day, its not fun to have to chase things up or worse yet go to work
If you are simply TOO tired to stay awake then go to bed. However for sleep patterns and so forth you're better off trying to stay up until around about the usual time you go to bed (probably a bit earlier). Don't worry, apparently scientific tests report that humans can endure something near 2 weeks with no sleep, a few nights out isn't going to ruin your life - but that said, sleep is always fun.
Of all the sections, this is perhaps the most important. Your attitude will get you a very long way.
MEDICATION
This has been broken into two sections for the simple reason that it is a highly recognized fact that the best way to recover from drugs is to take more drugs
However there are a number of other meds which can really help a comedown, and do absolute wonders for feeling better over the next few days.
Part 1 - More Chemical Concoctions
More drugs can be great, they fill in time, are always good fun and are perfect for squeezing the last effects out of whatever you took the night before. Just remember they aren't so good on the old brain after a heavy night.
I consider weed to be an absolute must, its perfect, you can really feel the final effects of MDMA, you get giggly and feel a lot more comfortable, it can help you sleep when the time is right if you were feeling too amped before. Its great.
Other excellent selections include Ketamine, nangs (ahhh sweet nangs) and even alcohol.
IF you 're planning on taking more MDXX's be careful, not only is this neurotoxically unwise, if you're well and truly over your peak then you'll simply be wasting a pill.
Speed can really help a comedown if you're getting too tired. It is recommended that you eat the speed rather than snort it for optimal comedown effects. Smoking speed is reputed to be good for a comedown, I've personlly not experienced it. Speed can be a godsend if you have to travel any distance by public transport or by foot, or even if you need to remain alert when driving home. (Note: Driving under the influence of any drug is not recommend, however police concern for accidents involving amphetamines regards exhaustion rather than being tweaked up)
GHB - Perhaps the single best drug for tackling a comedown! With G your comedown will melt away into a floaty, wobbly, giggly cloud. It is so much damned fun.
But please excercise some caution:
Acid is another wonderful drug on the comedown. You should already be in a good state from the night before, so there's nothing like tripping hard into the next day. Acid should also help keep you alert if you're starting to tire. The optimal time to drop acid is really up to preference, however if you can time it so you're just starting to peak as the sun comes up you're in for a treat
Part 2 - Help your body recover
Your body will have lost alot of vitamins and whatnot during the evening's activities, your best advised to get some into you ASAP.
• Vitamin C is great, it will help your body kill bacteria and will help prevent you developing any colds.
• Multivitamins have just about everything you want in them. This is available in a water soluble form (eg. Berocca) which should take effect faster.
• Vitamin E helps your body restore cells, this can help heal those mouth wounds and is just plain good.
• Cod Liver Oil - get this in a capsule or you truly will be sick. This will help keep those teeth healthy after you've ground them down. It will also help manage nasty mucus.
• Echineta - This stuff is garuanteed to keep a cold away, available in many forms. The losanges are good as they help keep the mouth and throat healthy.
• A decent anti-bacterial mouthwash (Savacol etc) This will burn, but if you rinse your mouth and throat you'll be on the way to a good recovery and help prevent infection. If you wish to avoid the burn then you can get 'Betadine' from the chemist, it contains povidine which tastes alot gentler. But some people enjoy the experience of blowing their minds on the strong shit after a night out.
• A nose spray can also help keep bacteria levels down, especially if your nose has taken a beating the night before.
Other cold and flu tablets etc. should help, at the moment it is preventative.
• 5Htp - as has been discussed to death in this forum. 5HTP will really help you get those seretonin levels back up ASAP. Turkey and Bannanas are apparently other good sources.
• Magnesium tablets - these are better off taken during the night, doses from 450-800mg seem to be useful. But if you're still grinding away when you get home, best to have some more.
Remember to take in plenty of fluids as you'll no doubt be dehydrated. Gatorade (or equiv) will help get the salts up asap. Mixing it yourself from the powdered form is recommended.
And no matter how nasty you feel, your body needs some good food. Pasta is a good choice as it has all the goodness you'll need for energy etc. but is soft and easy on the mouth & jaw. Toast is good too, but often too rough and dry on the mouth.
Your best bet is to have an 'Up & Go' or other drink thingo's which have all you need in liquid form so you don't have to eat.
Fruit is also perfect, as it provides sustenance along with liquid - great on a dry mouth. Healthy too.
ACTIVITIES ETC.
First of all, if you have the opportunity to shower then TAKE IT. There's nothing like cleaning off all the grime and sweat. If you have access to them, clean clothes can be fantastic, you'll feel like a new person.
Now you safe and dry you need something to fill the time in with, take advantage of your enfeebled state and enjoy stupid conversations and odd interpretations of things.
Discussions always go well, this is a perfect time for philosophising and conspiracy theories.
Now is a good time to tell that amusing joke or story, it is NOT the time to resolve an issue you have with someone.
Videos and movies are great, comedies and warped strange viewing is good fun. Cartoons are awesome too. Don't forget music, more ambient, chill laid back, background music is usually more advised.
Get comfortable, blankets and fluffy pillows, soft toys etc. are perfect to cuddle up with.
Thats about it, feel free to make comments & suggestions.
Take care & have fun.
Plague
[ 22 November 2002: Message edited by: Plague Bearer ]
The dreaded comedown. It is an inevitable stage in the consumption of drugs. And with this guide hopefully you will survive it a little better.
There was a thread a little while ago on this topic and it seems many good suggestions came out of it. So I've decided to wrap it all up into a nice little guide for everyone to benefit from.
We've all seen and had nasty comedowns, but it doesn't have to be that way.
The comedown procedure can be divided into three elements:
* Mental State
* Medication
- Part 1
- Part 2
* Activities etc.
MENTAL STATE
We'll cover this first as this is something you will often have to face long before you get the chance to do anything else, this will often begin while you're still out.
Stay positive !
Its remarkable how far a little positive thinking will go. Remember when you take drugs you DO HAVE to comedown, I hesitate to use such ridiculous phrases as seen on that darned anti-drug ad. Its nothing you haven't done before (usually) and you will survive it. There will always be other times to party and take lots of drugs, but for now just accept that its over and move on. And most importantly; it doesn't mean the fun is over.
You will usually be tired, scatty and a little grumpy. So will other people so bear this in mind. Often people become very direct in the way they speak during this period of time, don't take offence and consider this when you speak to others.
The mental state provides a great source of amusement, laugh and joke at how brain fucked you all are, enjoy your stupidity and don't forget to talk UTTER SHIT for hours on end
Avoid stressful situations wherever possible. Avoid police and parents. Even if it isn't obvious you're fucked it is still safer not to have to worry about being confronted as you will no doubt be a little paranoid and are definately in no state to be taxing your mind trying to come up with excuses and half baked stories. Given that, there is a good chance that you will look very messy indeed which doesn't help matters. Also, if you can help it, try not to have anything to worry about during the next day, its not fun to have to chase things up or worse yet go to work
If you are simply TOO tired to stay awake then go to bed. However for sleep patterns and so forth you're better off trying to stay up until around about the usual time you go to bed (probably a bit earlier). Don't worry, apparently scientific tests report that humans can endure something near 2 weeks with no sleep, a few nights out isn't going to ruin your life - but that said, sleep is always fun.
Of all the sections, this is perhaps the most important. Your attitude will get you a very long way.
MEDICATION
This has been broken into two sections for the simple reason that it is a highly recognized fact that the best way to recover from drugs is to take more drugs
However there are a number of other meds which can really help a comedown, and do absolute wonders for feeling better over the next few days.
Part 1 - More Chemical Concoctions
More drugs can be great, they fill in time, are always good fun and are perfect for squeezing the last effects out of whatever you took the night before. Just remember they aren't so good on the old brain after a heavy night.
I consider weed to be an absolute must, its perfect, you can really feel the final effects of MDMA, you get giggly and feel a lot more comfortable, it can help you sleep when the time is right if you were feeling too amped before. Its great.
Other excellent selections include Ketamine, nangs (ahhh sweet nangs) and even alcohol.
IF you 're planning on taking more MDXX's be careful, not only is this neurotoxically unwise, if you're well and truly over your peak then you'll simply be wasting a pill.
Speed can really help a comedown if you're getting too tired. It is recommended that you eat the speed rather than snort it for optimal comedown effects. Smoking speed is reputed to be good for a comedown, I've personlly not experienced it. Speed can be a godsend if you have to travel any distance by public transport or by foot, or even if you need to remain alert when driving home. (Note: Driving under the influence of any drug is not recommend, however police concern for accidents involving amphetamines regards exhaustion rather than being tweaked up)
GHB - Perhaps the single best drug for tackling a comedown! With G your comedown will melt away into a floaty, wobbly, giggly cloud. It is so much damned fun.
But please excercise some caution:
- Do not take G if you're planning on driving.
Do not mix with alcohol! (this can be fatal)
Ensure it is correctly labeled including its concentration.
Watch your dosage very carefully (G has taught be to use it with respect on a number of occasions)
Acid is another wonderful drug on the comedown. You should already be in a good state from the night before, so there's nothing like tripping hard into the next day. Acid should also help keep you alert if you're starting to tire. The optimal time to drop acid is really up to preference, however if you can time it so you're just starting to peak as the sun comes up you're in for a treat
Part 2 - Help your body recover
Your body will have lost alot of vitamins and whatnot during the evening's activities, your best advised to get some into you ASAP.
• Vitamin C is great, it will help your body kill bacteria and will help prevent you developing any colds.
• Multivitamins have just about everything you want in them. This is available in a water soluble form (eg. Berocca) which should take effect faster.
• Vitamin E helps your body restore cells, this can help heal those mouth wounds and is just plain good.
• Cod Liver Oil - get this in a capsule or you truly will be sick. This will help keep those teeth healthy after you've ground them down. It will also help manage nasty mucus.
• Echineta - This stuff is garuanteed to keep a cold away, available in many forms. The losanges are good as they help keep the mouth and throat healthy.
• A decent anti-bacterial mouthwash (Savacol etc) This will burn, but if you rinse your mouth and throat you'll be on the way to a good recovery and help prevent infection. If you wish to avoid the burn then you can get 'Betadine' from the chemist, it contains povidine which tastes alot gentler. But some people enjoy the experience of blowing their minds on the strong shit after a night out.
• A nose spray can also help keep bacteria levels down, especially if your nose has taken a beating the night before.
Other cold and flu tablets etc. should help, at the moment it is preventative.
• 5Htp - as has been discussed to death in this forum. 5HTP will really help you get those seretonin levels back up ASAP. Turkey and Bannanas are apparently other good sources.
• Magnesium tablets - these are better off taken during the night, doses from 450-800mg seem to be useful. But if you're still grinding away when you get home, best to have some more.
Remember to take in plenty of fluids as you'll no doubt be dehydrated. Gatorade (or equiv) will help get the salts up asap. Mixing it yourself from the powdered form is recommended.
And no matter how nasty you feel, your body needs some good food. Pasta is a good choice as it has all the goodness you'll need for energy etc. but is soft and easy on the mouth & jaw. Toast is good too, but often too rough and dry on the mouth.
Your best bet is to have an 'Up & Go' or other drink thingo's which have all you need in liquid form so you don't have to eat.
Fruit is also perfect, as it provides sustenance along with liquid - great on a dry mouth. Healthy too.
ACTIVITIES ETC.
First of all, if you have the opportunity to shower then TAKE IT. There's nothing like cleaning off all the grime and sweat. If you have access to them, clean clothes can be fantastic, you'll feel like a new person.
Now you safe and dry you need something to fill the time in with, take advantage of your enfeebled state and enjoy stupid conversations and odd interpretations of things.
Discussions always go well, this is a perfect time for philosophising and conspiracy theories.
Now is a good time to tell that amusing joke or story, it is NOT the time to resolve an issue you have with someone.
Videos and movies are great, comedies and warped strange viewing is good fun. Cartoons are awesome too. Don't forget music, more ambient, chill laid back, background music is usually more advised.
Get comfortable, blankets and fluffy pillows, soft toys etc. are perfect to cuddle up with.
Thats about it, feel free to make comments & suggestions.
Take care & have fun.
Plague
[ 22 November 2002: Message edited by: Plague Bearer ]
