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dreamchaser
03-01-2011, 08:58
What should I do with them? Last time i snorted 3 and popped one and i barely felt anything. if i plugged 2 of them, would i feel good?

Starshowers
03-01-2011, 09:34
I hope you know that plugging entails stirring the hydromorphone in water and using one of those oral syringes, don't just shove the pill up your ass, haha.

Hydromorphone is a tricky one. You really only get good bioavailability if you IV it. Personally, I need to snort like 15mg+ to get high (I have moderate opioid tolerance). Never eat it though, I think everyone would agree that's the worst thing to do with it.

dreamchaser
03-01-2011, 09:39
yea i crushed 3 pills up and dissolved them. then i put it in a syringe and shot them up my ass. but i didnt feel anything. i just took 10 vicodins now. hopefully i'll feel those..is there any risk mixing opiates?

amapola
03-01-2011, 09:43
Oral to IV for hydromorphone is high, like 4 to 1 at least. Plugging would probably get you to 2:1 or better I think? All off the top of my head at least.

The only risk mixing opiates is that they compliment each other so you will get higher. 10 vicodins ES is also a ton of acetaminophen which is going to fuck with your liver. I hope you did a cold water extraction on them.

edit:
So to sum up you took 12mg hydromorphone rectally, 75mg hydrocodone orally, plus maybe 7.5 grams of paracetamol.

12mg hydromorphone plugged =~ 30mg of hydromorphone oral = 180mg of morphine oral
75mg of hydrocodone oral= 45mg of morphine oral

So I'd say you took about the equivalent of 225mg of morphine orally or 55mg of morphine IV

lman_15
04-01-2011, 00:09
everyone on this website is gunna say to IV it or plug it.. snorting and poppin is a waste

wickedgarden
04-01-2011, 00:19
Yes, I believe that snorting them is definately a waste. I snorted several once and didn't feel a thing. When I rigged it up however I got a pretty good rush from it. Dilaudid and hydromorphine are the same things, right? The problem with dilaudid and just plain morphine both though is that the high never seems to last as long as I need it too. It's like chinese food, lol, I'm always wanting another an hour later!

amapola
04-01-2011, 00:20
^^Whew. You guys got him the answer just in time.../sarcasm 8)

wickedgarden
04-01-2011, 00:32
I hope that it does you right!!! I don't really have too many people that I know around here that I can trust with questions like that. I really don't need them though because I have all the wonderful people on bluelight that I can turn to with any question I may have. No matter how stupid! I've never been turned wrong yet on here, and I doubt that I ever will be!

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
04-01-2011, 01:17
Sniffing is better than oral but IV is what you want. Taking hydromorphone orally is a complete waste.

doIhavePotential
04-01-2011, 01:58
eating a fatty meal before snorting can help with the BA i believe.Though it may be only for opana.

amapola
04-01-2011, 02:09
eating a fatty meal before snorting can help with the BA i believe.Though it may be only for opana.
^Do you know the mechanism behind this or why you believe it?

BrainstormWithJace
04-01-2011, 05:30
oh i miss those.... oral waste.... sniffing a little less of a waste.... plugging a little better... I would suggest IV if youve already shot up before if not i would advise to probably just plug and smoke a bowl. cheers

dreamchaser
04-01-2011, 06:24
Someone I know insists that I smoke them. He said he tried doing that and he got fucked up off one 4 mg pilil. I researched smoking pills and it doesn't seem like many people suggest you do it, because of binders or something? Can someone explain please? And I tried plugging three yesterday and didn't feel anything. Did i do something wrong? I dissolved them in a few mL of water and used a syringe to pump it up my ass. Isn't that what I do? Thanks for all the help guys!

rearranged
04-01-2011, 06:44
Maybe It's just me but I'd rather stick a needle in my arm than stick a syringe up my ass.

jamesmartin
04-01-2011, 15:10
Op- depends if you have an opiate tolerance .

I have a low one and taking just 2Mg orally gets me high.

wickedgarden
04-01-2011, 16:41
I wonder why eating and sniffing doesn't really get you off, but rigging it blows your head off for a little bit. The rush with this one is something else, and in my opinion worth the little extra trouble to IV it. This is the only drug that I know of like this. Anyone know the answer? I've tried sniffing it and didn't feel anything, but when you IV it's like doing a whole different drug. Weird huh?

dreamchaser
04-01-2011, 20:00
I'm sure it's much better to IV it. But I have no experience with shooting up. I understand it's not very safe, but I can't seem to feel opiates any other way. What would be the safest and best way to set up a rig?

amapola
04-01-2011, 23:42
I wonder why eating and sniffing doesn't really get you off, but rigging it blows your head off for a little bit. The rush with this one is something else, and in my opinion worth the little extra trouble to IV it. This is the only drug that I know of like this. Anyone know the answer? I've tried sniffing it and didn't feel anything, but when you IV it's like doing a whole different drug. Weird huh?
It has to do with how it get's into your blood stream. Whether directly (IV), through a membrane (Colon/Nasal) or through your digestive system where it also get's quickly processed by your liver.


I'm sure it's much better to IV it. But I have no experience with shooting up. I understand it's not very safe, but I can't seem to feel opiates any other way. What would be the safest and best way to set up a rig?
Read the megathread on it.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=487276

wickedgarden
06-01-2011, 19:03
I do not want to encourage you to do this if you are quesy or unsure about it, but using syringes can be safe if you are clean and careful. After all, syringes are the perfered way to give people medications in the hospitals. If you are clean you can avoid all the diseases and infections that are assoicated with IV use. If you are careful you can avoid scarring and absesses. As Amapola referenced the link, it will give you all the information that you need.