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"Website Pushes Illegal Drug Use" - Sunday Herald Sun

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"Website Pushes Illegal Drug Use" - Sunday Herald Sun

Alarming article from the Sunday Herald Sun page 16 is pointing the finger at an internet site for the promotion of drug use amongst Melbourne clubbers!! These are a few quotes from the article.
"A controversial internet site is promoting the use of ecstasy, speed and other illegal drugs to Melbourne clubbers"
"The page is hosted overseas, but more than 700 Melbourne clubbers have posted reports since January, with thousands likely to have logged on."
"While the site's administrators claim not to condone drug use, controversial information available from the site includes a guide to intravenous drug injection, tips on how to avoid undercover police and methods of smuggling drugs into other countries."
"The Sunday Herald Sun has decided not to publish the address of the page"
"'There is no quality control on the internet and just because someone says a drug is safe you can't assume that it will be totally safe for you', Dr Libby Topp said."
"Federal Communications Minister Richard Alston spokesman Sasha Glebe said people could lodge conplaints about the site with the Australian Broadcasting Authority."
"Mr Glebe said the Office of Film and Literature Classification had the power to review complaints about websites and issue 'takedown' notices to Internet service providors."
People, read this article. Could this mean the end of Bluelight??
 
Can I borrow your time machine - it's still Saturday by my watch...
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But seriously, what can they do? - The OFLC has a hard enough time trying to control what we read, watch and listen to as it is without having to wage war on the internet too... from what I understand, short of government legislation there's not much they'll be able to do to us, and even then it's sketchy... the site has to be based in Australia for our authorities to have an influence I think...
Maybe they should take it up with the good people at the island of ".nu" and see if they can put a stop to this madness...
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{edit} Oh, and it might even be www.pillreports.com and not bluelight...
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For time warping, please click
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Paranoia is the unrelenting force behind this thread.
ps. Oh, and www.pillreports.com is a daughter site of bluelight.ru.......isn't it?
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eh... saw this one coming. no, it is by no means the end. i'll ring em tomorrow and see how far they want to take this, after i've read the story that is...
 
Sure sounds like BL, doesn't it? Re-assuring to know that we're being likened to peadophiles and granny-bashers.
BTW (sorry this is a bit off-topic) did anyone notice that the government spokesperson was called Sasha?
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Johnboy - do you think letters to the editor from BL members would be a good idea?
 
The server is in the Netherlands... Logically, they can stick their 'takedown notice' up their arses... This is the internet, and they can get fucked. Once again, thanks Mr. Harradine for our insane internet legislation laws!
 
Oh, secondly... I don't think letters are a good idea. We have enough publicity already...
Why didn't they publish the site adress? Afraid of condoning drug use or afraid of the potential libel suit thier fucked up article could potentiate?
 
fucking hell... why does the phrase "scare campaign" occur to me right now... bastards... honestly...
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plazma: "rectal dosage is similar to oral..."
sex: "its nature's cocaine, you can't just do it once..."
bluelight: "we are the viet cong of the war on drugs..."
 
This is fucked. Its one fucked newspaper report after another. Now don't let yourself believe its a coincidence.
I know the media like to sensationalise, but there's more of a driving force behind this.
Anyway, I think that were the government to choose to, all traffic from bluelight could be stopped from getting into australia.
 
I tells ya! They need to take a pill and chill the fuk out!
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Idoits....
 
Actually. I think tripped needs to relax too. *breath* *breath*
Dude, they wont shut down Bluelight. They Can't, because we are doing nothing Illegal. There is no selling, distributing, buying of drugs, child porn, beastiality or anything else that would warrant a site to be shut down.
As I said. COPS = BIGGER FISH TO FRY.
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Drug-Arm Victoria spokesman Graeme Rule likened the information on the site to pedophiles promoting their activities on the Internet.
"No-one has a right to promote pedophilia or bashing little old ladies, and people shouldn't be able to provide information on how to use drugs," he said.
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I take offence at this statement... In no way can bluelight or pillreports be likened to pedophilia or bashing little old ladies. Both of those are actively illegal activities which no-one would dispute is indecent and completely wrong, but bluelight and pillreports are not involved in any illegal activity, and promotion of drug use only takes place subjectively, there is no active promotion taking place, we don't say "Go out and take drugs!"
The statement made by Graeme Rule is baseless sensationalism...
 
yes, dont flood them with angry letters to the editor, yet... i'll be ringing them on monday and seeing how farthey want to take this, if its one story then fine, fuck it, although the pedophilia thing is a bit much, might have to respond to that at least.
oh and here's the full text,as thoselinks have a habit of dissapearing...
Website pushes illegal drug use
By MANDI ZONNEVELDT
12aug01
A CONTROVERSIAL Internet site is promoting the use of ecstasy, speed and other illegal drugs to Melbourne clubbers.
The website encourages drug users to write about their "trips", describe their favourite drugs and give the illegal substances a rating out of 10.
The page is hosted overseas, but more than 700 Melbourne clubbers have posted reports since January, with thousands likely to have logged on.
Censorship laws relating to the Internet mean that the Federal and State Governments are almost powerless in controlling the website's potentially dangerous content.
While the site's administrators claim not to condone drug use, controversial information available from the site includes a guide to intravenous drug injection, tips on how to avoid undercover police and methods of smuggling drugs into other countries.
There are also forums to discuss medical and psychological problems stemming from drug use and a new-users' guide to ecstasy.
The Sunday Herald Sun has decided not to publish the address of the page.
Drug-Arm Victoria spokesman Graeme Rule likened the information on the site to pedophiles promoting their activities on the Internet.
"No-one has a right to promote pedophilia or bashing little old ladies, and people shouldn't be able to provide information on how to use drugs," he said.
Dr Libby Topp, a National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre spokeswoman, said drug users could not rely on the site to give accurate information.
"There is no quality control on the Internet and just because someone says a drug is safe you can't assume that it will be totally safe for you," she said.
Bill Stronach, chief executive of the Australian Drug Foundation, said information about drugs should be freely available on the Internet.
But he said the information needed to come from credible sources such as the Australian Drug Information Network.
Ilsa Colson, a spokes woman for Health Minister John Thwaites, said the State Government opposed anything that promoted drug use, but that censorship of the Internet was a matter for the Federal Government.
Federal Communications Minister Richard Alston spokesman Sasha Glebe said people could lodge complaints about the site with the Australian Broadcasting Authority.
Mr Glebe said the Office of Film and Literature Classification had the power to review complaints about websites and issue "take-down" notices to Internet service providers.
He said the laws gen erally related to sites promoting "illegal and highly offensive material", including pedophilia and instructions on how to make bombs.
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yeah... and "'Sydney' Clubbers" either:
--DONT do drugs.
--DONT exist.
or
--ARENT affected by the mass social media 'arm' that is, "the internet"...
No. no.. its only melbourne clubbers.
about 700 of them to be exact. *GASP*
...lets hope that nobody in Sydney ever gets a hold of this address...
 
*groans* and how about the pic they have, below it says, "Potent: Mind-bending ecstasy tablets."
idiots.
 
and i fucking KNEW that thread by infinity in main discussion was going to cause grief... i fucking knew it... why the mods let a fucking thread on how to smuggle drugs into another country stay on... i've no idea...
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plazma: "rectal dosage is similar to oral..."
sex: "its nature's cocaine, you can't just do it once..."
bluelight: "we are the viet cong of the war on drugs..."
 
Yah i waz pretty suprised to find the article in sunday's paper, i immediately made the connection to pillreports. Looks like media getting involved where they're not wanted - this site doesnt push drug use, its an information base.
People are always going to use drugs. Drug use is something that's built into our society. Having websites such as this only provides more comprehensive information. Sure, you can goto the government site and read that "extacy might have depression as a side effect" or that "extacy generally comes in the form of a pill" or some other general sweeping statement, but Pillreports provides more detailed information. This gives the occasional party goer a bit more detailed info to help them in making their decision. I dont think people will use this site and then decide that they want to take pills, they will go here when they want to get pills or have them and want to see if they are relatively safe or if other people have found problems with them.
Since ive have been using this site, we have not had any bad pills, and as a result, no negative side effects. If people are going to do it (drugs) anyway, why not provide them with as much information as possible, asn at least aim to minimalise drug usage harm.
 
ok picture your joe public
and you stumble on this website.....
As an outsider, I would be concerned.
I'm sorry, but bluelight has gone from a harm minimisation website, to a resource for people to maximise (and abuse) their drug use......
so lets be rational about it, and consider what we post......
 
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