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sfletch
18-12-2010, 07:29
My friend and I are on probation and he takes adderall and I do not and we were both thinking about shooting crystal meth and we have random UAs and he wants to know if he does meth if it will show up as amphetamine. We take 7 panel drug tests with oxycodone and ethyl alcohol added. I'm pretty sure it just says amphetamine and it didn't specify methamphetamine or some shit like that. But yeah since he is pretty much always testing positive (i think) for amphetamine. He takes 15mg twice a day.

fryingsquirrel
18-12-2010, 07:38
If that is really how the test they do works then he would be OK. But I think it a mistake to assume you fully understand their test. It only stays in your system for three days, so it shouldn't be that hard to schedule it around a UA.

sfletch
18-12-2010, 07:42
Yeah that's what i'm gonna do and i'm trying to tell him to just do the same thing and wait till right after a UA.

fryingsquirrel
18-12-2010, 07:44
Yeah that's what i'm gonna do and i'm trying to tell him to just do the same thing and wait till right after a UA.
That's what I do, so far so good...

Tickle My Pickle
18-12-2010, 08:45
I been smoking meth like once a month for yeeears. I have adderall script. I wonder if I'm safe.

Tickle My Pickle
18-12-2010, 08:48
If this gets closed pm me

sekio
18-12-2010, 08:59
Methamp is metabolized into amphetamine in your body.

Tickle My Pickle
18-12-2010, 09:04
So if I get addy can I smoke m amp? How long will it show

fryingsquirrel
18-12-2010, 09:05
Methamp is metabolized into amphetamine in your body.Not saying you're wrong, but people should not infer from this that it isn't possible to distinguish meth from amp given the right test.

Tickle My Pickle
18-12-2010, 09:13
So if I get addy can I smoke m amp? How long will it show

fryingsquirrel
18-12-2010, 09:29
So if I get addy can I smoke m amp? How long will it showDepends on the test they do. It's detectable about 3 days.

Tickle My Pickle
18-12-2010, 10:53
So if I smoke crystal like once a month I'm good?

opiatekrzy
18-12-2010, 13:39
they detect for Amphetamines and Methamphetamines on panel tests. my doc has a dip test and it tests for Amphetamine AND Methamphetamine , not to mention i have gotten copies of drug tests that were sent to quest labs and also on the list of drugs they test amph and methamph. same drug just a minor difference

TheFDA
18-12-2010, 23:36
Actually, drug tests can't differentiate between Amphetamine medications like Adderall & Meth. Years ago I had a really bad Meth problem & just so happened to be being prescribed Adderall the entire time as well, so I've had tons of doctors & tons of drug tests I "passed" confirm the fact that drug tests do not differentiate between Meth & Amphetamines.
However, having an Adderall 'script still isn't necessarily a "free pass" to do all the Meth you want & still pass drug tests. Since drug tests obviously report the exact amount of the substance that's in your system, & it's not incredibly difficult to tell a normal, "therapeutic" amount of Amphetamines that's in your system from an incredibly high amount of Amphetamines that's consistent with Meth abuse. Still, though, unless you're the biggest tweaker on the planet perhaps, all that would lead to is suspicions, since it can't be proven as a fact whether somebody with an Adderall 'script is using Meth or not based solely on the level of Amphetamines present in their system.

fryingsquirrel
18-12-2010, 23:50
Years ago I had a really bad Meth problem & just so happened to be being prescribed Adderall the entire time as well, so I've had tons of doctors & tons of drug tests I "passed" confirm the fact that drug tests do not differentiate between Meth & Amphetamines.

The key words here are "years ago". Today MANY tests can tell the difference. A 5 panel test won't, but that is the exception rather than the rule.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
19-12-2010, 00:22
Adderall will SOMETIMES show up as methamphetamine when I take my monthly drug test. It won't show up all the time which is weird. My Suboxone doctor will assume its just the Adderall.

HT harm redux
19-12-2010, 00:34
I would just stay away from crystal meth all together. that rubbish is rough on your body

TheFDA
19-12-2010, 02:39
The key words here are "years ago". Today MANY tests can tell the difference. A 5 panel test won't, but that is the exception rather than the rule.

Well, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have just solely referred to things from years ago... Just seemed like the most sensible "proof" to cite at the time.

& if I hadn't had any experience with drug tests while having Amphetamines &/or Methamphetamines in my system for years, then I probably would have just shut up & not said anything.

However, I actually received my Medical Records in the mail yesterday from a pretty recent & pretty intensive ER visit I had, & they did an extended drug test on me (the five categories of drugs they always test for of course & three more that I'm guessing they chose at random)... I have a legitamite Adderall prescription, so of course the test showed up positive for Amphetamines, & of course they didn't care because I was prescribed to take Adderall. But various little side notes & whatnot in the ER report state flat out that, among other things, "the test for Amphetamine is designed to report as Positive, for urine samples containing Amphetamine, Methamphetamine, & their metabolites at a cutoff concentration of 500 ng/mL".

Correct me if I'm wrong (& I might be, my brain is definitely not tailored to comprehend scientific shit like a wiz or whatever), but I'm pretty sure that what that means is that drug tests still group "Amphetamines" & "Methamphetamine" together.

fryingsquirrel
19-12-2010, 03:15
It depends on the test. I got a look at the test my probation officer uses. It is an instant test, and amphetamine and meth were two seperate panels. But there are lots of tests, not all the same.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
20-12-2010, 00:11
Adderall on occasion will show positive for both amphetamine and methamphetamine on most tests, I don't think 5 panel tests for both.

AnyCouponWorks
20-12-2010, 07:03
one year ago i was seeing suboxone doctor and believe i was given a 5 or 6 panel test.

i at some point began taking adderall (scripted legally) and in fact forgot that i was newly on it when i went into my appointment.

doctor came in very concerned as i was regularly passing the test (save THC but he was ok with that%)) and said "youve tested positive for amphetamines. tell me about it - have you beeing using speed, meth?"

told him about the adderall and he said 'oh, ok. well be careful as youre in treatment for addiction'. so, in that case i would assume the test could not differentiate between the two.

i looked up 5, 6 and 7 panel - the 6 panel indicates it tests for amphetamines and then METHamphetamines. the 7 panel indicates it tests only for Methamphetamines specifically. in which case your friend should be testing negative, for just his amphetamine in adderall - but since you mentioned he tests positive, then it shows positive for both.

i think you should NOT take the chance.

by the way - whats the reason for the added 'oxycodone' panel - why doesnt it fall under opiate category? just curious - never heard of this before.

fryingsquirrel
20-12-2010, 07:29
one year ago i was seeing suboxone doctor and believe i was given a 5 or 6 panel test.

i at some point began taking adderall (scripted legally) and in fact forgot that i was newly on it when i went into my appointment.

doctor came in very concerned as i was regularly passing the test (save THC but he was ok with that%)) and said "youve tested positive for amphetamines. tell me about it - have you beeing using speed, meth?"

told him about the adderall and he said 'oh, ok. well be careful as youre in treatment for addiction'. so, in that case i would assume the test could not differentiate between the two.

i looked up 5, 6 and 7 panel - the 6 panel indicates it tests for amphetamines and then METHamphetamines. the 7 panel indicates it tests only for Methamphetamines specifically. in which case your friend should be testing negative, for just his amphetamine in adderall - but since you mentioned he tests positive, then it shows positive for both.

i think you should NOT take the chance.

by the way - whats the reason for the added 'oxycodone' panel - why doesnt it fall under opiate category? just curious - never heard of this before.I isn't metabolized to morphine, so it falls outside the standard morphine/heroin/codeine opiate test.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
21-12-2010, 02:26
I'm always given a 6 panel. The 6 panel tests for oxycodone.

opiatekrzy
23-12-2010, 20:48
where does hydrocodone fall under with these panel tests ?my sub doc tests for . OPIATES, Amphs.M-Amphs, benzos, barbs, MDMA, cocaine, OXY. and believe it or not a a seperate benzo test that only shows up for klonopin , as im on it, making sure i dont take other benzos..anyway, i know hydrocodone isnt an opiate as opiates are (morphine,codeine,heroin), and oxycodone shows as, well duh OXY, so where does hydrocodone fill in? im guessing same as OXY as they both r derived from thebaine?

leftwing
24-12-2010, 07:39
no drug testing questions of this nature.