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TheLoveBandit
03-11-2010, 22:00
It's that time again, SPRING CLEANING (if you're in the Southern Hemisphere). For reference on how this went down last time, check the old ANNOUNCEMENT (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=432513).

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Staff,

We appreciate all that the mods and members did with the last PRUNE we ran in mid-2009. However, we are due to go through it again. Luckily that last one was more painful due to several forums having not been reviewed in years and years....this time, we're looking at only trimming back threads without replies before 2010, which is only about 8 months of last years threads.

Stated more clearly - on the chopping block is any thread not replied to in 2010, but still floating in your forum.

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Based on our server stats, you'll notice the forums are ranked based on how much server space they take up:



Forum Posts % of database
The Lounge 441831 9.9882
Psychedelic Drugs 357909 8.091
Archive - The Lounge 248500 5.6177
Other Drugs 210065 4.7488
Archive - EADD 184515 4.1712
Archive - OD 171141 3.8689
European &amp, African Drug Discussion 152946 3.4576
Archive - Australian Drug Discussion 140427 3.1746
Archive - Australian Social 114252 2.5828
Basic Drug Discussion 113940 2.5758
Ecstasy Discussion 104233 2.3563
Archive - SLR 90863 2.0541
Sex, Love and Relationships 77063 1.7421
Archive - DC 76698 1.7339
Film &amp, Television 75305 1.7024
The Dark Side 74223 1.6779
Cannabis Discussion 73586 1.6635
Drug Culture 71415 1.6144
Archive - CEP 71393 1.6139
Archive - Words 70550 1.5949
Archive - TDS 69495 1.571
Archive - ED 67703 1.5305
Australian Drug Discussion 67171 1.5185
Advanced Drug Discussion 65968 1.4913
Australian Social &amp, Events 61499 1.3903
Archive - SO 56302 1.2728
Archive - CD 54062 1.2221
Current Events and Politics 51744 1.1697
Archive - TR 51247 1.1585
Archive - NEMD 49440 1.1177
Second Opinion 5454 1.0276


You'll notice half of our top 10 'fatty' areas are archives - fair enough, they were set up with the intention of holding key reference information good for years. However, of those fat archives, several are social in nature....which begs several questions, such as
Isn't 'social' content primarily transient and relative, such that it is important to those at the time, but not so much a reference needed forever?


If it *is* such an awesome social content thread that it ought be referenced forever....should it not be in BoBL?


How much of those social archive threads are ones that got filled to 1000 posts and archived? Are they really that valuable? Do the images and links in them still work? Is it feasible to either remove them wholesale or perhaps save the 50-200 good posts from each one and get rid of the rest?

I'm sure you can come up with some more questions of your own, including the counter question of - "so, why keep social archives at all?" There is still some merit on keeping local archives in social forums (ie, SLR or SO would have some threads good for reference within their archives, which are best kept in a sub-forum for UTFSE moments). But yeah, we're going to ask for a review of the archives as well.

Why? Why are we being so cruel and heartless to not only have you prune your forums, but actually review the archives as well? Because we're bored, and there hasn't been enough whinging from staff lately aside from a few isolated issues. This one can piss everyone off ;) No, seriously, you guys have probably seen the threads in SUPPORT regarding errors and slow loads, and you have probably experienced these yourself to some degree. We need to trim back the database to improve things, as we seem to be up against the limits of our hardware :\ But to go one further, we've discussed our pending upgrade(s) and these are much, much easier to do with a smaller database.

To improve our bang-for-the-buck, we'll attack forums according to that listing above on database size (this lets you know when your forum is due to be pruned), but in fairness ALL forums will be reviewed.

Per the process last year, we'd like to follow what worked well by posting notice in ANNOUNCEMENTS as well as forum specific headers when a forum is being pruned. We'll create a temporary 'PENDING DELETION' folder for each forum as it is under review, allowing for the members to pitch in and bump things or ask that they be saved (mods shouldn't have to do all the work).

This thread is here for any questions or feedback as we head into this. Your help and support is essential, so we thank you.



PRUNE COMING NOW

EXPECT AN ANNOUNCEMENT

NOBODY IS EXEMPT






Cheers =D

TheLoveBandit
03-11-2010, 22:13
A few key pointers to have in mind as we approach this

Ensure your forum guidelines and other key threads of interest are preserved during the prune. Like, make sure you know where they are ahead of time, and that they don't get tossed out with the baby and the bathwater.


Use this to verify-fix your listings of mega-threads of interest for your forum. We've still got a few broken links in some forums due to losing threads in the last prune. Let's try to avoid this by checking every link in your index, then making sure those threads that still exist are preserved during the prune (we'll sort out how in a bit, but my gut is thinking to sticky them in the archive or in your main forum until the prune is done - this keeps them from getting deleted.


I like chocolate.


Don't freak over reviewing every single thread....we'll do it chunks at a time to keep the qty within reason. Also, we'll be doing this in a publicly viewable-accessible manner, so it is not solely on the mods to do the review .... members are asked to help out as well, and they bear the pain if things are lost.


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EDIT TO ADD THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE OUTLINE:


This is the procedure we used last go. Please, feel free to question or suggest alternatives. This isn't the law of how to do it, but what we did last time, and how we think it can best be approached with this go'round. I'll use TL as an example, since it's first up.

(The Sr. Staff will) Make an ANNOUNCEMENT and serve notice in SUPPORT, so the members are aware it's happening all over the site and why, and most importantly that we want their help with it.


(The Sr. Staff will) Make a forum NOTICE indicating *this* forum is now being pruned, how we plan to do it, and what the mods and members are being asked to do:


(The Sr. Staff will) Add a new sub-forum called "PENDING DELETION"
THE LOUNGE
- PENDING DELETION
- THE LOUNGE ARCHIVE


(The forum mods and members will) Give a run thru the forum guidelines, key thread index of links, etc and make sure ALL important threads are saved prior to moving stuff into the PENDING DELETION. I'll point out that if threads are stickied, it makes it a lot easier to ensure they don't accidentally get swept out for deletion. Yeah, it'll make a fugly large list of stickies atop your forum proper and-or your archive, but you can unstick them when we're done if you need. Just an FYI.


(The Sr. Staff will) Move about 400-500 threads into "PENDING DELETION" for a 4-7 day review. Members can bump threads for consideration of saving, mods can then make a decision and move saveworthy threads to BoBL or the THE LOUNGE ARCHIVE as appropriate.


(The Sr. Staff will) End of the review period, remaining threads are hard deleted by admin, and another 400-500 threads are moved in for review.


Rinse-Repeat until done, delete the forum NOTICE and the PENDING DELETION sub-forum, then sr. staff moves on to tackle another forum.

By using the PENDING DELETION area for review, it breaks the job into manageable bite-sized pieces. By having the reviewed threads visible and bumpable by all the members, nobody can come back later crying about losing something due to the whim of an admin with a fat finger on the keyboard and no appreciation for the content - this is their chance to speak up on such threads.

We will tackle the local archive (THE LOUNGE ARCHIVE) first, then the forum proper.- allowing you (the staff and public) a chance to save your recent faves first. Then in doing the ARCHIVE content, you'll come to have a better appreciation on what really does belong in BoBL, what belongs in local, and what shouldn't have been saved after all.

I should also point out that we will not be doing this ONE FORUM at a time, but will probably tackle 2-5 forums at any given time. This keeps it from stretching out forever, and there really is no reason not to tackle several at once, given the number of sr. staff available to assist the local forum mods and members with their pruning. This way, we should be able to wrap up in perhaps 4-8 weeks total? Then we can feed our server monkey and get him to do some upgrade work!

TheLoveBandit
08-11-2010, 19:29
Stats that are closer to home:



FORUM OLD:Threads_Posts

Support 785_13509

New Member Introductions 4,150_31,205
- NMI Archive 359_7,416

Ecstasy Discussion 7,634_168,702
- ED Archive 1,890_67,149
Cannabis Discussion 3,415_123,231
- CD Archive 375_51,282
Steroid Discussion 575_10,182
- SD Archive 59_2,925
Psychedelic Drugs 13,070_313,909
- PD Archive DNE
Other Drugs 22,265_369,102
- OD Archive 10,107_169,476

Drug Studies 141_1,853
Drugs in the Media 3,929_64,410
- The Front Page 84_3,686
- DITM Archive 1,266_33,042
Basic Drug Discussion 11,101_133,623
- BDD Archive 545_17,268
Advanced Drug Discussion 4,371_64,670
- ADD Archive DNE
The Dark Side 4,172_133,421
- TDS Archive 784_60,599
Trip Reports 6,430_70,697
- TR Archive 4,696_50,497
Drug Culture 1,624_144,825
- DC Archive 449_76,109

Healthy Living 1,729_37,981
- HL Archive 322_10,514
Current Events and Politics 3,447_121,879
- CEP Archive 1,662_70,930
Sex, Love and Relationships 3,957_157,693
- SLR Archive 1,586_87,873
Philosophy and Spirituality 1,126_44,517
- P&S Archive 369_19,179
Education & Careers 650_12,463
- E&C Archive 255_5,102
Legal Discussion 1,942_21,747
- LD Archive 1,034 _13,545
Second Opinion 2,485_101,459
- SO Archive 1,329_56,833
Science & Technology 1,257_17,978
- S&T Archive 171_4,345
The Lounge 4,538_673,897
- TL Archive 769_240,456

Electronic Music Discussion 944_40,331
- EMD Archive 194_22,622
Non-Electronic Music Discussion 1,036_81,078
- NEMD Archive 168_9,227
Words 15,487_77,550
- Words Archive 14,094_70,287
Film & Television 2,786_82,511
- F&TV Archive 27_7,852
Sports & Gaming 666_26,130
- S&G Archive 76_7,158

Australian Drug Discussion 11,200_202,459
- Aus PIR 82_634
- AusDD Archive 9,073_138,840
Australian Social & Events 2,313_199,663
- Aus Soc Archive 1,195_113,163
- Aus Events Archive 367_26,161

European & African Drug Discussion 3,245_316,293
- EADD Archive 525_173,745
European & African Events 166_992
- EAEvents Archive DNE

North & South American Social & Drug Discussion 893_61,839
- NADD Archive 86_13,248
- NASocial Archive 55_9,446
North & South American Events 1,439_48,951
- Northeast USA 507_1,817
- Midwest USA 417_8,314
- Other North and South American Regions 266_1,869
- NAE Archive 247_36,948



We'll add another column to indicate when a forum is done, and where it ended up.

TheLoveBandit
08-11-2010, 21:10
JUST a word of warning, you will find the server stalls a bit whenever we mass delete a bunch of threads. This won't be a scheduled thing, more an action when any given forum has reviewed it's content adequately. So the downside is, we should see several of these 'slow downs'; but the plus side is that they typically don't last more than 2-3 minutes and each one brings us that much closer to a healthy (ie, faster!) database :)





EDIT - these 'stalling' moments will delay your page loads, and will also cause frequent double posting (the server takes a submitted post and puts it in the thread twice). We will try not to do these deletions-stalls during peak online time for our members, but if you are thoughtful of others, you can EDIT->Delete when you create a double post ;)

anarchogen
08-11-2010, 21:23
Whawhat the fuck is going on?!??!?!

8L4YN3
08-11-2010, 21:34
It's nothing for anyone to complain about thats for sure lovebandit! And i agree theres no practical use in archiving social content.

atara
08-11-2010, 21:36
All I can say is that this thread (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=534193) better not get deleted.

Enki
08-11-2010, 21:42
Whawhat the fuck is going on?!??!?! Bluelight has to many threads and its slowing us down. To optimize Bluelights functioning threads no one cares about anymore are being deleted. The Sr Staff lets you look over what's being chucked in case you want to argue that a certain thread ought to be kept or in case you want to save it on your own computer or give it one last hug.

When a search or other types of function happens the server can have to look through every post even ones that have not held anyone's interest in years. Its like trying to find something in your closets when your saving all your kindergarten keepsakes, every package you have eaten from, every beer can, on and on. It doesn't work. You have to throw some stuff away to make other stuff findable in a reasonable amount of time.

IndustrialStrength
08-11-2010, 22:05
All I can say is that this thread (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=534193) better not get deleted.

Seconded. I've been curious to see the results of that thread myself. ;)

Regardless I just wanted to wish all the mods & admin the best of luck in this clean up effort.
A cleaner, more streamlined Bluelight awaits!
Here's hoping that this will be a smooth, streamlined process with no hiccups for everyone involved.
Thanks again to all those involved for there dedication to Bluelight & for your help in making Bluelight better!

Enki
08-11-2010, 22:12
^ Its all within 2010 and in no danger of getting pruned this cycle. :)

TheLoveBandit
08-11-2010, 22:22
All I can say is that this thread (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=534193) better not get deleted.


Let's see....

#1 - anything that has a reply in 2010 will NOT even be considered for deletion = your thread is safe

#2 - any thread that is up for deletion will be given a week in a holding bin where anyone (mod or member) can flag it and ask that it be saved = you have the chance to keep it safe even if #1 wasn't in effect



Regardless I just wanted to wish all the mods & admin the best of luck in this clean up effort.

Your thanks are appreciated, it's not a fun job - and while the staff (primarily mods) have the power to move threads from review into an archive and preserve it if needed, we really need the help of ALL THE MEMBERS to go through the "PENDING DELETION" folders each week to help ensure we don't toss out anything really important :\ So, pre-emptively, we (the staff) thank all of YOU (the members) for your help with this. :D



Keep watch for when a forum you frequent is up for review. Right now, we're focused on our largest sections (LOUNGE, PD, OD, ... etc). You'll see a thread appear in your favorite forums whenever their turn comes up. Your experience is needed!

anarchogen
08-11-2010, 22:23
Bluelight has to many threads and its slowing us down. To optimize Bluelights functioning threads no one cares about anymore are being deleted. The Sr Staff lets you look over what's being chucked in case you want to argue that a certain thread ought to be kept or in case you want to save it on your own computer or give it one last hug.

When a search or other types of function happens the server can have to look through every post even ones that have not held anyone's interest in years. Its like trying to find something in your closets when your saving all your kindergarten keepsakes, every package you have eaten from, every beer can, on and on. It doesn't work. You have to throw some stuff away to make other stuff findable in a reasonable amount of time.

well knowledge is power,
the prune thing tripped me out a bit though

HdoubleODeezy
08-11-2010, 22:23
couldn't all of say OD's socials and CD's socials be put in one big combined thread so that they are still saved but just in one big thread so that there isn't a bunch of threads for the search engine to search through and it would still make the site faster? or is it the fact of the space being taken up other than just too many separate unneeded threads sitting around?

TheLoveBandit
08-11-2010, 23:34
Posts are posts are posts - whether merged into a big megathread or scattered to various threads. They all carry the same server weight and search engine sluginess.

!_MDMA_!
08-11-2010, 23:41
how about getting the mods of each section to pick 1 or 2 threads to add to the best of bluelight from each archive and deleting the rest? i don't see much need for all these archived threads when most are out of date or are still being asked today

Inoxia
09-11-2010, 00:05
The very fact that Psychedelic Drugs takes up so much space proves (in my opinion) that this is a very pressing area of science. :\

Retoxification
09-11-2010, 00:16
The very fact that Psychedelic Drugs takes up so much space proves (in my opinion) that this is a very pressing area of science. :\

yes i appreciated this fact.

Regardless good luck mods/admins, this seems like quite the hefty task. Although I have to say the prospect of a faster server is nice. Besides most of the info of drug effects, short term and long are changing almost every semester of the year so no reason not to remove outdated info. Most of all good luck with all the "save my thread!!" messages.

Enki
09-11-2010, 00:25
Guys, pleeeezzze 8) I love BL, but Bluelight posting habits are not prime indicators of what is a pressing area of science. The lounge posts outweigh PD. What does that say about science? Does ADD's fewer posts indicate they are on the wrong track when it comes to science :) I mean this nicely, just am not in the right set, setting, or dose I'm guessing <3

187coopa
09-11-2010, 00:46
Tl:dr hide yo kids hide yo wife cause they rapin every1 down here O well find you

fizzle
09-11-2010, 01:05
^No Lounge talk in Support :p:|

Delsyd
09-11-2010, 05:51
Guys, pleeeezzze 8) I love BL, but Bluelight posting habits are not prime indicators of what is a pressing area of science. The lounge posts outweigh PD. What does that say about science? Does ADD's fewer posts indicate they are on the wrong track when it comes to science :) I mean this nicely, just am not in the right set, setting, or dose I'm guessing <3

you're thinking about it to much brah
just eat this acid and put on some grateful dead ;)

hydroazuanacaine
09-11-2010, 07:22
perhaps save the 50-200 good posts from each one and get rid of the rest?

....

We'll create a temporary 'PENDING DELETION' folder for each forum as it is under review, allowing for the members to pitch in and bump things or ask that they be saved (mods shouldn't have to do all the work)
^both good ideas.

still sad.

MrIbis
09-11-2010, 07:28
yeah just delete the whole site... that'd clean it up the mad ;)

just kidding ;)

Inoxia
09-11-2010, 12:59
Guys, pleeeezzze 8) I love BL, but Bluelight posting habits are not prime indicators of what is a pressing area of science. The lounge posts outweigh PD. What does that say about science? Does ADD's fewer posts indicate they are on the wrong track when it comes to science :) I mean this nicely, just am not in the right set, setting, or dose I'm guessing <3

It's not a perfect science. :\
Obviously I wasn't entirely serious but yeah, it does show that much less seems to be known about psychedelics compared to other drugs.

ChemicalSmiles
10-11-2010, 04:31
y0 thizzer, I wasn't around for the last one, so i'll do it together with you this time. posting this in the mdo thread too.

hobbes gobs
10-11-2010, 07:13
hey guys

i hope we have jovial discussions hurr

some of the finest accomplishments in life arise from self analysis

chainsawr
10-11-2010, 08:20
hey guys


i hope we have jovial discussions hurr


some of the finest accomplishments in life arise from self analysis


hobbes gobs
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hmmm.. with these three genius posts in a support thread, i can only speculate as to how awesome your 1st post must have been. 1/10 TROLL HARDER ;)

anyway back ontopic, why not condense all the 1000+ lounge ttys threads down to just image links that are still valid (relatively simple grep work) merge into mega-ttys imageboard thread or something/other and be done with them.

fizzle
10-11-2010, 09:15
hey guys

i hope we have jovial discussions hurr

some of the finest accomplishments in life arise from self analysis

I've merged your 3 posts into one post. Please just use the edit button next time if you have something to add to your original post instead of posting 3 in a row. Also, you are derailing this thread... but you are welcome to start your own thread. A good place to start is in New Member Introductions, which I see has already been suggested to you in the other thread you posted in :)

PriestTheyCalledHim
12-11-2010, 09:39
Can we have some of the old threads archived by replying "archive this thread" like we did last time there was a site prune?

Public//Enemy
12-11-2010, 12:13
My suggestions:

1. Get a faster server and keep more.

2. Split the data into two seperate DBs. Will take some work but the archives are exactly that, im sure they are not requested as much and as they are the bulk of the olds then maybe having it distribuited to a diff DB would speed things up. Would make searches more inconvienient.

Im not a DB architecht (well not a good one anyway) but im sure someone on the know can confirm/deny my thoughts.

TheLoveBandit
12-11-2010, 15:56
Priest - most archives are locked from getting replies, so bumps won't work. However, you can still use the REPORT POST function to flag them for moderator saving. That said, you'll most likely see the archive content being put thru the local 'PENDING DELETION' folders when we finish reviewing the forum proper....so hold off until the spotlight is actually on those particular threads, please.


PE - Right now, we're struggling to meet the financial demands of our current hosting (server cost, bandwidth, etc). Ideally, yes, we increase those for better performance - but for now, we can't, so we reduce the bloat we've got and keep operating. Secondly, as a db worker, you are probably familiar with the amount of debris left all over the place as time goes on. This cleaning exercise is also beneficial for an information site like ours in that future users that search for data are provided a shorter list of more relevant discussions, as opposed to a funkton of discussions they have to sift thru to find useful data.

fizzle
12-11-2010, 21:43
My suggestions:

1. Get a faster server and keep more.

2. Split the data into two seperate DBs. Will take some work but the archives are exactly that, im sure they are not requested as much and as they are the bulk of the olds then maybe having it distribuited to a diff DB would speed things up. Would make searches more inconvienient.

Im not a DB architecht (well not a good one anyway) but im sure someone on the know can confirm/deny my thoughts.

My suggestions:

1. Donate.

2. You pay the difference from what its already costing us. =D

Enki
13-11-2010, 15:24
If someone has a subscription to a thread that is pruned does the subscription go into the nether world along with the thread? Does someone pruning their subscriptions help reduce that user's impact on the server load in anyway?

TheLoveBandit
13-11-2010, 15:45
Pruning your subscriptions will not make any noticeable impact on the server.

If you are subscribed to a thread that gets pruned, it gets removed from your subscription list (just tested to make sure). So, you wouldn't know it got pruned unless you happened to notice it was missing from that list. Point being (thanks for bringing this up, Enki) is that if anyone is subscribed to threads, it would be wise to bump those and make sure they don't get pruned. :)

Hammilton
14-11-2010, 10:15
Any chance ADD can be left untouched? It's a tiny portion overall but has some of the best information on the entire site. Unlike so many other forums, very little is social in nature and the vast majority is useful and will be useful a decade from now.

If something has to go limit it to all the crap that's been locked. Vecktor and Nuke are pretty good about locking nonsense.

I'd recommend keeping anything I've ever started. Seriously though, threads started by Nuke, Murphy, Vecktor, FnB, Pomzazed, Enkidu, Mad_Scientist and a half dozen others should be left alone for sure.

fizzle
14-11-2010, 10:29
^Thats why we have the whole "pending deletion" temp forums, where mods and users can bump or report things they feel are worth saving :)

Edit: I just had a quick look through there, it doesnt look like anything is at risk of being pruned anyway because everything has been responded to within 2010, so you should be fine.

Hammilton
15-11-2010, 10:38
Every thread worth keeping in ADD has a post in it within the past 11 months? Weird.

hoptis
15-11-2010, 14:57
My suggestions:

1. Get a faster server and keep more.

2. Split the data into two seperate DBs. Will take some work but the archives are exactly that, im sure they are not requested as much and as they are the bulk of the olds then maybe having it distribuited to a diff DB would speed things up. Would make searches more inconvienient.

Im not a DB architecht (well not a good one anyway) but im sure someone on the know can confirm/deny my thoughts.

Once it starts raining money, we'd definitely look at hardware options.

There are a lot of performance issues we can look at, hopefully one day, one (or enough) of these will mean we won't have to prune as often, if at all. Until then unfortunately, these are necessary.

Also, the day it starts raining money, you may have to find someone else to do all this because I'll be missing in action for a while.

TheLoveBandit
16-11-2010, 23:07
Fizzle posted this in another thread, but it ought to be in this one as well, given this is the one the site announcement keeps bringing people into:


Update: I just got a PM asking about pruning, I should have explained it here but I didnt even think about the fact that many of our members are new and have never experienced a prune, so I'll explain it here... most of you have probably been experiencing a lot of the slow downs and time outs that have been happening lately. A lot of that is due to server overload, a LOT of people use this site and it has tons of info stored on it. Every year or two we go through and do a hard delete of old threads earlier than a certain date, but that means we have to make sure our important threads dont get lost in the process. In this case our prune will be for anything that has not been replied to within the year 2010. If there is something you want to save, simply bump the thread (you can just say "bump to save from prune" or whatever, just something so that theres a response) And yes, you as members are encouraged to help. Just make sure its a thread of value, because if every thread gets bumped it sort of defies the point of the prune lol but we've never had a problem with that. This is also the first time we will be going through and pruning archives, so if theres anything in there you want to save be sure to talk to a mod (I dont think members can post in archives, but I dont remember for sure). Anything replied to in 2010 is safe, so dont worry about those.

If you have a thread that you arent sure about, just link it here rather than bump it, that way you can get feedback from others as well. However if a forum doesnt have a thread like this and there is a thread you arent sure about, just ask the mods of that forum. If there is a thread that you just MUST save, or are pretty sure others would want saved, go ahead and bump it :)

If anyone has any more questions you can ask them here.

watsons torment
18-11-2010, 20:12
Hiro ladies/fellas

I know there is a thread about slow response times but i can't find it.

I've noticed the past couple of nights at around 10pm(GMT) the site pretty much crawls to a halt, pages take ages to load and sometimes don't load at all, this also happens on pillreports.com at the same time which i assume runs on the same server?

is this going to be an ongoing issue until the prune is complete?

cheers

WT

TheLoveBandit
18-11-2010, 20:44
I know there is a thread about slow response times but i can't find it.

A whole EIGHT threads down from yours :| Your answer is in post #4.


JUST a word of warning, you will find the server stalls a bit whenever we mass delete a bunch of threads. This won't be a scheduled thing, more an action when any given forum has reviewed it's content adequately. So the downside is, we should see several of these 'slow downs'; but the plus side is that they typically don't last more than 2-3 minutes and each one brings us that much closer to a healthy (ie, faster!) database :)





EDIT - these 'stalling' moments will delay your page loads, and will also cause frequent double posting (the server takes a submitted post and puts it in the thread twice). We will try not to do these deletions-stalls during peak online time for our members, but if you are thoughtful of others, you can EDIT->Delete when you create a double post ;)




Fwiw, we're going to do our best to avoid this problem. Instead, the admin are stockpiling ALL the threads we've cleared from review and will take the server offline for 5 min whenever we have a large enough number to delete. This means anyone accessing the site for those 5 minutes will get a 'Server Mtc' screen. It also means that when we do remove those threads, it won't effect anyone for those 5 minutes and we can run it more cleanly and effectively. These 5 min outtages won't be announced, but won't be long either. We'll probably see our first this weekend, but it also will b aimed for times of low server demand as best we can.

watsons torment
18-11-2010, 23:26
A whole EIGHT threads down from yours :| Your answer is in post #4.

ya i knew all about that i just wanted to waste some of your time :D

MISSION COMPLETE!!

cheers for the response :-)

shake
22-11-2010, 18:53
so nsadd isnt affected by this till next year

TheLoveBandit
23-11-2010, 23:48
So...NASDD is effected, perhaps affected as well, when we get to them ;) You'll have word in your mod thread and we (the admin) will help get public notice going int o your forum when it comes. We can't pin a date, because it depends on how quickly we can get thru the other forums that are fatter than yours. We're pushing do get the whole site done ASAP, but with an understanding of the seasonal holidays and people's availability on a volunteer website. :)

lostNfound
25-11-2010, 03:44
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=9024994&postcount=42 - member mentioned a drop in post count by at least 70 or so posts.

nolys
26-11-2010, 12:11
could you not delete my thread on shrooming in ireland because i want to keep the infor for next years season, i didnt get a chance to use it this year

fizzle
26-11-2010, 19:37
^You need to talk to the mods of the forum that its in. You should also find a link to it because people arent going to want to go searching for it themselves.

nolys
28-11-2010, 00:33
no probz mate thansk for ettingm know

im drunk by the way so my post is fuckedk :)

Enki
28-11-2010, 00:43
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=446206 If this is the thread it has a 2010 reply and is safe from pruning. If you click on your name where it says 'Welcome nolys' you can click on the statistics tab of your profile and choose 'Find all threads started by nolys' Things responded to in 2010 are ignored in this prune.

nolys
28-11-2010, 00:46
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=446206 If this is the thread it has a 2010 reply and is safe from pruning. If you click on your name where it says 'Welcome nolys' you can click on the statistics tab of your profile and choose 'Find all threads started by nolys' Things responded to in 2010 are ignored in this prune.

Oh, thanks alot mate i didnt know that :)