Sorry Lacey but I must disagree with you...although Jersey is dope as fuck for scoring good H, I must say Baltimore is the king of Heroin. It was recently released that 1 in 10 residents in Bmore was a current Heroin user....the highest of anywhere in the United States. Besides that Baltimore has in my experience, extremely high potency H available at the street level for very low prices. I've copped dope in NY, NJ, Philly, Bmore, and Miami and in my experience it went in order of Bmore, NJ(as a close runner-up), Philly, NY, and Miami definitely being last, with low quality dope for high prices in neighborhoods that were way too hot to be comfortable with.
yo, we cool n all that and u was respectful in ur post so dont take my post that Im bout to make as a personal thing, it aint. But Ima present my case, take wat you will from it folks.
EXHIBIT A - First of all, I know several people from bmore who would not agree with u. I know a girl who use to cop in Trenton (Trenton, not even where the best dope in jersey is at) and she moved down to bmore and lived with some longtime Bmore addicts who knew the game. she didnt only do the scramble, she was coppin "raw" too, so she was gettin the best bmore got to offer. But she got fed up, after a couple months she said fuck it cuz she missed the dope back home so much . And so Now she drives to jersey every few days to cop her shit cuz it just wasnt doin it for her down there. and l ike i said, she had local tour guides and a sample of the good raw not just the beat ass scramble. But it wasnt good enough for her. She said yall need like 80 units to mix up your shit down there. you can mix 10 bags of jersey powder up with 40 units of water. it all mixes up pure no left behind shit, its clean as hell like that.she was mad frustrated with the way shit she was gettin mixes up. And i mean if the dope is that good in bmore and its good enough why would you drive so far away? why wouldnt you jsut settle and be l ike shit this is almost as good Ima just chill instead o doin this shady interstate drug bringing. so it had to be significantly better in jerz for her to be willin to do that to get it, u feel me?
Now remember, The thing is too--with the point of this thread and how we measure it, I think some of yall gets it confused.
It aint "wat town can a person obtain the best quality heroin at"
Its the best place for dope, meanin that more than one thing goes into it, and the best place is the place that got the best of all those things.
You can get good dope anywhere if you kno the right people. Its about how good the dope that a person who DONT know the game, who DONT know wat they doin, can cop. When we decidin the winner here its the PURITY at RETAIL LOW STREET LEVEL, whether or not there is WIDE SPREAD AVAILIBILITY, how EASY it is to cop it, and the PRICE ....
So,
EXHIBIT B - You say BALTIMORE..... WE got the WHOLE STATE yo! How can you even compare one city to the entire state bein a heroin market? EVERY major, and even not major city in nj, you can easily easily cop FIRE dope at. Some places, like newark and paterson and camden, got the most firest dope, but you will still always find fire in any city when you look.
There might be like 200 cope spots in baltimore but...thats one city as opposed to jersey where you guaranteed to cop in
atlantic city, asbury park, camden, east orange, elizabeth, irvington, jersey city, newark, new brunswick, passaic, paterson, trenton.....And those is all just the main, major "big" cities that is well known for copping in. If i listed the "secondary" cities where there is open air copping, there would be 20+ places you can cop dope at...Lets see...Bayonne, Neptune, Plainfield, Belleville, perth amboy, union city, and by "cop" i dont mean a place u can buy dope. I mean a place u can go to buy drugs OPEN AIR. Lotta ppl consider a place a "dope" city if they can get dope there. But it aint even in the competition here unless its OPEN AIR, becuz the whole point is the shit need to be EASY- for somebody who aint got no connections to be able to get the shit.
So IDK how one city can stack up against all these cities here we got where you an be in and out in 5-10 minutes with good, CHEAP dope in your hand.
EXHIBIT C - Now, about the shit you said about 1 in 10 ppl in bmore being addicts. ok but that dont mean the dope is better. I aint sure exactly wat its suppose to mean, becuz its just a statistic. lotta ppl using dope. That still dont make it the best place for the dope. lot of shit can go into creatin that number. and jersey got more than twice the national average when it come to the rate of heroin addiction too. That maybe aitn 1 outta 10, i honestly dont know the numbers of the avg or the NJ ratio, coudnt find it, but that shows that we got high proportions of dope addiction rate here too.
This is from a DEA site, now Im tryna figure out wat a ED mention is tho, but maybeu can help me with that. they also talk about the purities aswell. ofcourse this is old data but it still interesting to me.
Newark had the highest rate of ED mentions (238) per 100,000 population in the nation in 2000.
Anyways.
EXHIBIT D - We dont name prices here, but from my ppls in bmore Ive talked to on here, yall is paying more per unit than we do up here. sstill cheap. but we just got it maddd cheap up here.
EXHIBIT E - Like I mentioned that girl before, i got a handful of ppl like her that i nkown. I know some of em who still mostly cops in bmore, but comes up here sometimes and started makin trips to jersey here and there becuz they preferred our shit up here and yes, that is the raw, to the stamp bags. cuz i know wat you gonna say--oh, well yea scramble is bullshit bla bla bla the raw is better than the jersey dope, etc....but this is raw that he was comparing...
I also got a good friend who reps bmore to the fullest and will never say a bad word about it, so he refuse to say jersey is better and thats cool I understand that a hunded percent, you gotta love your home town, but he DOES say that jersey is for sure no question about it just as good as yall bmore dope, and this is a kid who baltimore is ALLLLWAYS better than anywhere else for anything in his mind.
EXHIBIT F -
Now, on to the shit you said about the potency on street level, etc==You sound like you describin jersey yo. Its the same shit here.
from that same DEA report:
According to DEA, all the heroin purchased under the auspices of the Domestic Monitor Program (DMP) in Newark in the first half of FY2002 was identified as South American heroin and had an average purity of 78.6 percent. This is the first time that Newark reported higher purity levels than Philadelphia, which previously had the highest purity levels in the country.
Baltimore still wasnt mentioned in that ...maybe number 3, hey thats like bronze medal right ?
jk. but sure, Yall got good potency at low prices (apparently not as low as here, but still low compared to anywhere else), available in extremely large amounts and its always there, even at low street level where you can get high quality/purity shit. And we got extremely high potency dope at extreemly low prices all over the place here too. The only difference bein i think that in general yall get the scramble as a good 50% of the market as my very rough estimate from the posts I seen here. from wat ive read the scramble is a good size chunk of the dope market out there and the "raw" aint as wide spread but for the ppl who knows how ti get it, it is easy to get , right? Now let me ask you a heroin new user who never copped before, how likely would it be for them to come upon caps of 'raw' and go home with that, if they did not know about it or ask for it first?
They would prolly copp scramble am i right? IDK, IM asking you, but it sounds to me like the ppl who dont know no better cops scramble and the junkies in the know cops raw.
My point is that out here while you may not know the best spots to go to as a out of towner or new user so u maybe aint gonna get the fire fire fire thats out , there is still a great chance that you will. I remember some of the first times i copped, on some totaly random shit and came home with straight FIIIIIRE, and that was before I even knew wtf I was doin, u know?
I think its easy to say that as far as quality goes, even tho IMO it is better, I will say that we can call it a tie for quality when its raw-to-bags and we aint comparing scramble to bags. Keep in mind in jersey you can also buy grams too, and that shit even purer than the shit in the bags obviously, but the point is that the shit in bags is already pretty clean for the most part, when you buy the grams you are gettin it fairly uncut. If you read the posts ive made thru the thread explaining the way that the "bricks" system keeps the potency up, u will realize that in order to get grams u got to go higher up, and becuz of that and the fact that u gotta get it from the distributors who is making the stamps, you get it before it gets the chance to pass thru all too many hands, and of course it will be cut but it is a extremely high purity product
But the point is that, that aint on the street corner for a out of town user. you need to know your connect to get that kinda shit. And so i dont compare the purity of the G's we can get here becuz that aint fair, it aint at retail street level, bags are. so I feel like its more fair to compare scramble when u talk about bmore dope if it is the most pre dominate form of dope that you would b most likely to get. But if the raw is just as available then its fair to use both as the standard IMO.
Anyways tho Im gettin off track.
Wat we have here, is
PURITY LEVELS ON LOW STREET RETAIL LEVEL
Jersey=1
Bmore=1
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--TIE--
AVAILABILITY (EASE OF GETTING IT)
Jersey=1
Bmore=1
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--TIE--
PRICE ON AVERAGE WITHOUT "DEALS"
Jersey=1
Bmore=0
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-JERSEY-
WIDESPREADNESS (HOW MANY PLACES TO GET IT AT)
Jersey=1
Bmore=0
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-JERSEY-
So we got Jersey-4 and Bmore-2....So, winner is...? See wat im sayin?
Becuz they seem to be pretty much equal in all other areas, but baltimore is just one city and jersey got allllllll these cities, thru out the state, jersey gotta take it.
And straight up, if you say oh jersey a state bmore a city, yes that is true, but the thing is if you take MARYLAND and compare it to JERSEY.....You aint gonna have nothing close to a fair fight. The entire state of jersey mightaswell be one bigass city cuz its so overpopulated, and all the major cities, as well as the smaller ones, got open air heroin markets. And then in seriously ANY town or boro or w/ever in the state, i GUARANTEE you there is at least one person who is using and distributing heroin. There is a enormous addiction problem here too just like yalls 1 in 10.
And I doubt that you can cop GOOD, CLEAN dope as easy as snappin your fingers in any other city in MD that aint bmore. The point we makin here is that in jersey, its every city, not just one, and its just so easy to find and get it , in any one of the cities, that its a sin, where as in bmore it might be just as easy to find, but when you take it to the rest of the state all the real activity is in bmore and the rest of the state just in the dust.
Seriosuly, we just swarming with dope here, its outta control and it aint confined to the hood or here either , its everywhere, and becuz its all these things that goes into determine the best place for heroin, jersey got to take the crown here, I think its plain to see we got the advantage when it comes to how plentiful and widespread the shit is and the purity is on lock like always, so its a close fight but i think for sure jersey take it.
So. how do yall like my full long persuasive essay on jersey dope lol. My thesis paper on the shit. enjoy n let me no wat u think if u had the time and attention span to bother eading it...LOL!
