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Local sheriff says Mexican drug cartels now control some parts of the state AZ.....

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The federal government has posted signs along a major interstate highway in Arizona, more than 100 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border, warning travelers the area is unsafe because of drug and alien smugglers, and a local sheriff says Mexican drug cartels now control some parts of the state.

The signs were posted by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) along a 60-mile stretch of Interstate 8 between Casa Grande and Gila Bend, a major east-west corridor linking Tucson and Phoenix with San Diego.

They warn travelers that they are entering an "active drug and human smuggling area" and they may encounter "armed criminals and smuggling vehicles traveling at high rates of speed." Beginning less than 50 miles south of Phoenix, the signs encourage travelers to "use public lands north of Interstate 8" and to call 911 if they "see suspicious activity."

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu, whose county lies at the center of major drug and alien smuggling routes to Phoenix and cities east and west, attests to the violence. He said his deputies are outmanned and outgunned by drug traffickers in the rough-hewn desert stretches of his own county.

"Mexican drug cartels literally do control parts of Arizona," he said. "They literally have scouts on the high points in the mountains and in the hills and they literally control movement. They have radios, they have optics, they have night-vision goggles as good as anything law enforcement has.

"This is going on here in Arizona," he said. "This is 70 to 80 miles from the border - 30 miles from the fifth-largest city in the United States."

He said he asked the Obama administration for 3,000 National Guard soldiers to patrol the border, but what he got were 15 signs.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer condemned what she called the federal government's "continued failure to secure our international border," saying the lack of security has resulted in important natural recreational areas in her state being declared too dangerous to visit.

In a recent campaign video posted to YouTube, Mrs. Brewer - standing in front of one of the BLM signs - attacked the administration over the signs, calling them "an outrage" and telling President Obama to "Do your job. Secure our borders."

BLM spokesman Dennis Godfrey in Arizona said agency officials were surprised by the reaction the signs generated when they were put up this summer.

way more at the source:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/31/signs-in-arizona-warn-of-smuggler-dangers/
 
He said he asked the Obama administration for 3,000 National Guard soldiers to patrol the border, but what he got were 15 signs.

Was this a joke?
 
BlowinKush32 said:
He said he asked the Obama administration for 3,000 National Guard soldiers to patrol the border, but what he got were 15 signs.

Was this a joke?
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Joke or not, I laughed anyway

It is kinda worrying though ..
 
Ya gotta feel bad for the smugglers, carryin pounds and pounds of stuff through a hot desert for like a week and a half...gah
 
Unbreakable said:
"Mexican drug cartels literally do control parts of Arizona," he said. "They literally have scouts on the high points in the mountains and in the hills and they literally control movement. They have radios, they have optics, they have night-vision goggles as good as anything law enforcement has.
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How is that controlling parts of Arizona? You can find drug dealers with high tech gadgets and heavy firepower in any American city of certain size.

Sounds like AZ is trying to jump on media concerns in hopes of increasing its budget. Crimes rates are dropping nationwide, they don't need it.
 
Bingo.

I cant hear u?
Gimme the drug money.
What was that???
Gimmme the drug moooooooooooooonnnnnney!
 
i find the rhetoric they use in the article absolutely ridiculous....i must have read "ceded the land" like ten times...fucking stupid
 
Unbreakable said:
The federal government has posted signs along a major interstate highway in Arizona, more than 100 miles north of the U.S.-Mexico border, warning travelers the area is unsafe because of drug and alien smugglers, and a local sheriff says Mexican drug cartels now control some parts of the state.

The signs were posted by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) along a 60-mile stretch of Interstate 8 between Casa Grande and Gila Bend, a major east-west corridor linking Tucson and Phoenix with San Diego.

They warn travelers that they are entering an "active drug and human smuggling area" and they may encounter "armed criminals and smuggling vehicles traveling at high rates of speed." Beginning less than 50 miles south of Phoenix, the signs encourage travelers to "use public lands north of Interstate 8" and to call 911 if they "see suspicious activity."

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu, whose county lies at the center of major drug and alien smuggling routes to Phoenix and cities east and west, attests to the violence. He said his deputies are outmanned and outgunned by drug traffickers in the rough-hewn desert stretches of his own county.

"Mexican drug cartels literally do control parts of Arizona," he said. "They literally have scouts on the high points in the mountains and in the hills and they literally control movement. They have radios, they have optics, they have night-vision goggles as good as anything law enforcement has.

"This is going on here in Arizona," he said. "This is 70 to 80 miles from the border - 30 miles from the fifth-largest city in the United States."

He said he asked the Obama administration for 3,000 National Guard soldiers to patrol the border, but what he got were 15 signs.

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer condemned what she called the federal government's "continued failure to secure our international border," saying the lack of security has resulted in important natural recreational areas in her state being declared too dangerous to visit.

In a recent campaign video posted to YouTube, Mrs. Brewer - standing in front of one of the BLM signs - attacked the administration over the signs, calling them "an outrage" and telling President Obama to "Do your job. Secure our borders."

BLM spokesman Dennis Godfrey in Arizona said agency officials were surprised by the reaction the signs generated when they were put up this summer.

way more at the source:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/31/signs-in-arizona-warn-of-smuggler-dangers/
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lol

This whole border war is nothing but control over the drug trade. The whole war on drugs is bullshit, does nothing but make more profits for bankers. All this BS is a big front to regulate prices by controlling supply coming in.

The answer is clear - legalization, but that will never happen while corporate America's in charge. :\
 
rincewindrocks said:
i find the rhetoric they use in the article absolutely ridiculous....i must have read "ceded the land" like ten times...fucking stupid
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This is not rhetoric, the cartels control the entire border, but where the big shit comes in it is hushed. Most of the violence in the drug war is along the Rio Grande. I live on the Rio Grande, and politicians and constables, sheriffs, etc are always getting busted dealing drugs, and are all influenced by the cartels/Mexican mafia. They have controlled the region for about 15 years, and that's why they set up these checkpoints along every highway going northbound from the border, about 90-100 miles inland. These checkpoints are staffed 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, with an entire staff of US Customs Border Patrol division federal agents, and they always have several canines stopping sniffing EVERY single car that passes through, no exceptions (unless maybe someone has an agent working for them, which you know the cartels do)
 
I'm going down there in the wintertime when it cools down to learn combat techniques from the Nam vets. Fucking serious. Anyone want to come with me you have to have your own weapons and ammo.
 
Drug Cartels now control some.....

When one says control an area, what is implied is the infrastructure has been infiltrated by what you say are the cartels. This is never going to happen. What goes on in the Rio Grande Valley is simple drug activities by low level authorities. I do not see how their involvement at such low levels will affect regions outside of those pockets. The truth to the matter is the Mexican govt. is backing the Sinaloa cartel to rid itself of the others involved. Notice how many soldiers have died in proportion to civilians. Seems the soldiers always arrive just after an incident happens.
 
+1 on the Rio Grande area AKA the valley, austinslacker. The area is too important to too many commercial and therefore political interests in the USA for it to be taken over by cartels. But nobody seems to be fighting too hard to 'control' otherwise worthless stretches of desert.

I know people with large ranches close to the border, between the ~100 mi. in border check stations and the border and they've reported seeing an increased number of people walking north on remote parts of their land in the past 10-15 years, but the trespassers/smugglers/cartels aren't trying to control or intimidate the ranchers I know, they seem to just want to go unnoticed and more importantly undisturbed. Plus Texans have this way of owning lots of guns and shooting them at bad guys... It'd be war if cartels tried to take over the Rio Grande valley and other areas along the river, it'll never happen.

Cartels might control some individuals, households, or even living quarters or businesses in the valley and elsewhere far from the border but they seem totally disinterested in 'civilians' and 'control' as it's being used in this article. Cartels usually act like businesses; Walmart and other businesses that aren't tied to a particular plot of land, like the big agriculture companies, don't want to truly control large parts of any state as it doesn't make fiscal sense. What's happening in Mexico won't easily jump the border IMO, lots of sensationalistic stuff about that these days it seems.

But I used to be able to go to Mexico regularly and feel comfortable there, now San Antonio or Corpus Christi are the closest I'll get to Mexico in this area. It's a shame.

This article could read "Local citizens say no-good bureaucrats and corporations now control most of the USA"...
 
sirmoonie said:
Sounds like AZ is trying to jump on media concerns in hopes of increasing its budget. Crimes rates are dropping nationwide, they don't need it.
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^^^totally. Spend a couple thousand bucks on a couple signs.....scare the shit out of everyone living/visiting the area....and use the fear to get billions from the federal government. Oh yeah and completely ignore the fact that prohibition doesn't work.
 
I know rannchers in western Texas that have seen mexcian military vehiclesa rmed with machine guns on top on there land "escorting " some "other vehicles" through his ranch,and he turned quickly and went the opposite way from them as he like to live.This guy does not call the cops or would not call the cops either way ,as he thinks and knows how stupis this war on drugs is,having lived on the border his whole life.I will not say where in Texas he is except it is a remote area ,with nothing much of value on either side except rural land to cross over from Mexico and back..But he does not care as long as they do not kill him or his family ,but worries that they might decide to do that and take his ranch just in case.Although after decades of them using it for crossing and him never even calling the cops,who are working for the people from south of the border,they know he keeps his mouth shut.But it would still be a bit nerve racking to hav ethat shit going on on the edge of your ranch even if it is very large in size and you rarely see or hear anything and like it that way...
 
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