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(I thought about this when I was thinking about certain aspects of substance legalization. Once again, this is long, but please dont respond without reading it in its entirety.)
Why do human beings need to have a government? If I were personally asked this question, I would respond with many Biblical references about how mankind is merely mimicing and emulating observed behavior and that the need for government is merely an illusion. Thats just my extremely opinionated opinion. I believe that the human instinct to create a form of government is merely the desire to have an authorotative figure to make rules and limitations for society. Sort of a subconscious-laziness. Personally, I view government like a baby sucking its thumb: its always been there and weve always had it, its almost impossible to just get rid of it without a painful 'weening' process. On to the topic...
I believe government does not need to exist. I believe that it is both the result of humanity's laziness and desire to have subconscious authoraties, much like in the way a child 'needs' a parent. (JUST AN EXAMPLE-not the topic at debate -> ) Government produces nasty things like wars (which include innocent participants) and prisoners (which are just victims of the government, in a way). Anyways, Ill look through two common world views to prove my point. Im thinking on a very fundamental level with this, but complexity starts with fundamentals.
Religious (and even to say Spiritual type) world view:
Do religious believers need government at all? For an example I will discuss the manner with wich Christian government evolved (in a very fundamental way).
The followers of the entity known as "God" needed no government. God gave very basic rules, which pretty much stated 'just be nice to each other and gimme respect and life on earth will flow smooth.' But, as we all know, we are prone to societal emulations. Neighboring civilizations had 'governments.' They had kings. The followers of the entity known as 'God' said, 'God, all those guys have kings! Can we have one to?' God said, 'Na beatches, im yo king!' They replied, 'To damn bad, were gonna make one.' So began the enslavement of humanity to government. God tried to help the people make it easy by picking their kings and such for them, but nope, the followers of the entity known as 'God' chose to do it like everyone else. God tried one last attempt to simplify life for everone on earth, he sent the entity known as Jesus, an incarnation of himself, to tell the people that the only rule we really need is 'Love your neighbor as yourself. Do onto others as you would have them do to you. This sums up all law.' People still rejected this simple, easy method of living and chose to delve forever into the infinite and endless evolution of what we call Government. Other religions follow a similiar pattern. Just about every world religion has a very VERY basic set of rules for the individuals to follow, making government by man completely worthless. Basically, if we follow a fundamental rule of 'live and let live' we dont need government.
An athiest view:
Why should government exist? Government is the result of millenia of religious control, and only exists today because it has so for centuries. It has evolved to a much more mature state, and will continue to evolve into a perfect form. This perfect form may simply be, human beings getting along simply because the invert is useless. We as singular beings are but a moment in the body that is our race's never-ending evolution, why not skip to that moment of perfect government, when we all just 'get along' for the benefit of our race. Our inefficient way of governing ourselves has slowed our evolution in some ways. The increase in certain areas of our evolution is due to governmentational (or societal) focus on that area (ie - intellectual expansion). But what are the limitations put on that expansion without the presence of a governing force? Aside from contributing to further evolution through reproduction, what else is the purpose of our existence? Does government need to exist, or does it exist because of behavoiral emulation?
My own thoughts are that government does not need to exist, and that for the most part, it just gets in the way. THe human population is far, far to large for universal rules to be set. Think of something liek this: what is the goal of a government? Is the goal of the united states to spread our political beliefs across the globe, so that everyone had the same government as us? What for communism? What if the entire planet was a communist state? A fascist state? Would the rules in one part of the globe pertain to the other? Could a few select individuals contend with the desires and wants of the entire human race? Could a few individuals actually hope to represent the entire human race?
Perhaps governments only exist because other governments exist. Perhaps they exist just so some few humans can exert control over others. Perhaps they exist because we are a primitive and unverdeveloped race of beings. Perhaps they exist because we have lost a sight of what was ment to be.
I think if humanity as one big whole, the entire population of earth, were able to 'step outside' the big picture and take a look, we would see that we dont need others to make the rules for us. We dont need 'things' to survive. We dont need simple pleasures to survive. We dont need a government to manufacture, or aid in the manufacture of things for us. We could just get along. The big picture is, that in the end it doesnt really matter. That in mind, conflict needs no outside force. Chaos and order are one in the same, and will resolve each other. Government is not necessary. Perhaps the primitive really wasnt so primitive.
I think the closest thing to a real government was the greek democracy, in that small towns of people decided what was best for themselves. It is in large populations that government because more of a depressant rather than a guide to humans.
Anyone up for a revolution? Life is so boring nowadays anyways.
Why do human beings need to have a government? If I were personally asked this question, I would respond with many Biblical references about how mankind is merely mimicing and emulating observed behavior and that the need for government is merely an illusion. Thats just my extremely opinionated opinion. I believe that the human instinct to create a form of government is merely the desire to have an authorotative figure to make rules and limitations for society. Sort of a subconscious-laziness. Personally, I view government like a baby sucking its thumb: its always been there and weve always had it, its almost impossible to just get rid of it without a painful 'weening' process. On to the topic...
I believe government does not need to exist. I believe that it is both the result of humanity's laziness and desire to have subconscious authoraties, much like in the way a child 'needs' a parent. (JUST AN EXAMPLE-not the topic at debate -> ) Government produces nasty things like wars (which include innocent participants) and prisoners (which are just victims of the government, in a way). Anyways, Ill look through two common world views to prove my point. Im thinking on a very fundamental level with this, but complexity starts with fundamentals.
Religious (and even to say Spiritual type) world view:
Do religious believers need government at all? For an example I will discuss the manner with wich Christian government evolved (in a very fundamental way).
The followers of the entity known as "God" needed no government. God gave very basic rules, which pretty much stated 'just be nice to each other and gimme respect and life on earth will flow smooth.' But, as we all know, we are prone to societal emulations. Neighboring civilizations had 'governments.' They had kings. The followers of the entity known as 'God' said, 'God, all those guys have kings! Can we have one to?' God said, 'Na beatches, im yo king!' They replied, 'To damn bad, were gonna make one.' So began the enslavement of humanity to government. God tried to help the people make it easy by picking their kings and such for them, but nope, the followers of the entity known as 'God' chose to do it like everyone else. God tried one last attempt to simplify life for everone on earth, he sent the entity known as Jesus, an incarnation of himself, to tell the people that the only rule we really need is 'Love your neighbor as yourself. Do onto others as you would have them do to you. This sums up all law.' People still rejected this simple, easy method of living and chose to delve forever into the infinite and endless evolution of what we call Government. Other religions follow a similiar pattern. Just about every world religion has a very VERY basic set of rules for the individuals to follow, making government by man completely worthless. Basically, if we follow a fundamental rule of 'live and let live' we dont need government.
An athiest view:
Why should government exist? Government is the result of millenia of religious control, and only exists today because it has so for centuries. It has evolved to a much more mature state, and will continue to evolve into a perfect form. This perfect form may simply be, human beings getting along simply because the invert is useless. We as singular beings are but a moment in the body that is our race's never-ending evolution, why not skip to that moment of perfect government, when we all just 'get along' for the benefit of our race. Our inefficient way of governing ourselves has slowed our evolution in some ways. The increase in certain areas of our evolution is due to governmentational (or societal) focus on that area (ie - intellectual expansion). But what are the limitations put on that expansion without the presence of a governing force? Aside from contributing to further evolution through reproduction, what else is the purpose of our existence? Does government need to exist, or does it exist because of behavoiral emulation?
My own thoughts are that government does not need to exist, and that for the most part, it just gets in the way. THe human population is far, far to large for universal rules to be set. Think of something liek this: what is the goal of a government? Is the goal of the united states to spread our political beliefs across the globe, so that everyone had the same government as us? What for communism? What if the entire planet was a communist state? A fascist state? Would the rules in one part of the globe pertain to the other? Could a few select individuals contend with the desires and wants of the entire human race? Could a few individuals actually hope to represent the entire human race?
Perhaps governments only exist because other governments exist. Perhaps they exist just so some few humans can exert control over others. Perhaps they exist because we are a primitive and unverdeveloped race of beings. Perhaps they exist because we have lost a sight of what was ment to be.
I think if humanity as one big whole, the entire population of earth, were able to 'step outside' the big picture and take a look, we would see that we dont need others to make the rules for us. We dont need 'things' to survive. We dont need simple pleasures to survive. We dont need a government to manufacture, or aid in the manufacture of things for us. We could just get along. The big picture is, that in the end it doesnt really matter. That in mind, conflict needs no outside force. Chaos and order are one in the same, and will resolve each other. Government is not necessary. Perhaps the primitive really wasnt so primitive.
I think the closest thing to a real government was the greek democracy, in that small towns of people decided what was best for themselves. It is in large populations that government because more of a depressant rather than a guide to humans.
Anyone up for a revolution? Life is so boring nowadays anyways.
