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shamus
30-08-2010, 01:15
I've noticed recently, after a little more publicity surrounding Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome (CHS), that many more anecdotal reports are hitting the forums (I've also noticed my symptoms worsen, meanwhile).

Who here wakes up in the morning, feels nauseous and/or vomits, & attributes this to weed?

More information: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=426434


If so please describe your experiences to the best of your ability below (everything about the nausea & your weed habit), & hopefully we can get a little closer to understanding the effects of cannabis on the digestive tract.


Thanks peeps %)



ps. how do I include a poll here?

Sega420
30-08-2010, 03:44
only mods can add a poll to a thread. PM and ask a mod.

Volcano
30-08-2010, 06:35
Strange.

I seemed to get this randomly, not recently mind you, not in the past couple of years but there was plenty a morning where I'd wake up and get in the shower before work and get sick and throw up in the shower.

Could've been other drugs but I'm 99% sure that on many occasions it happened after I had smoked weed only.

Been a smoker for 10 years, 8 of them heavy


Now this part, I've NEVER experienced:


In the US case, the sufferer had been smoking marijuana daily and in heavy doses for six years. This eventually led to bouts of vomiting lasting two to three hours daily, and this was worse after meals.

As with South Australian cases, the young man initially turned to "compulsive hot bathing behaviour" to relieve the symptoms but he was not cured until he gave up smoking cannabis altogether.


My bouts of vomiting were limited to once or twice in the shower and maybe once in the sink after I got out. I NEVER felt sick throughout the day and IMO vomiting helped relieve pressure in my stomach.

Coolio
30-08-2010, 07:42
Wait, I'm a little confused. Do they mean you feel nauseous and throw up before you've had your morning cannabis? Isn't that normal in a cannabis addict? You wake up nearly sober, so you need to toke to get rid of the nausea of your cannabinoid-deprived digestive system?

jamesmartin
30-08-2010, 07:48
I get nauseaus in the mornings .
Almost feel like I'm going to vommit but never do.

It's calmed down a bit now . My weeed tolerance has gone wayyy up which may be why. Who knows.

DeucalionAH
30-08-2010, 08:13
This is the first time I've heard of CHS. I think it's rather interesting that people experience it in the morning. The only people that I have known to get sick simply from pot usually started with the spins and ended up near a trash can or toilet.

Now, I smoke marijuana several times a day on most occasions, except for when my pain management appointment is coming up because they require the dreaded urine GC-MS. I don't want to take your thread in a different direction, however, I feel this could be an analogue of what the OP mentioned. If I'm way off, then I apologize because I haven't yet read up on CHS. On several occasions, after a night of pretty heavy smoking, if I go to bed high then I often wake up with the feeling that I've pulled nearly every muscle in my arms, legs, and neck. Is this something that any of you guys have had similar experiences?

Newbierock
30-08-2010, 14:19
I Also smoke several times a day, it's not happened recently but I had a good patch of about 2-3 months where every morning i'd have mega shits and feel sick for a few hours. Neve thew up fom it I don't think though and it doesn't happen anymore - pobably totally unelated for me hah.

k.kat
30-08-2010, 14:36
ive never had nausea/sickness off of weed /hash, only had bowels moving
never heard of anyone else having it either
only time ive had morning sickness was when i was pregnant

deez_nuggs
30-08-2010, 18:20
This whole syndrome sounds like BS to me. I wake up feeling nauseous in the morning, but i attribute that to poor diet, lack of heavy sleep, and moderate binges with alcohol. I'm willing to bet anyone with "CHS" is either extremely mentally dependent on weed or, like i said, poor diet, sleep, or drinking problems. Cannabis should not cause problems.

psychomimetic
30-08-2010, 20:31
I've been waking up feeling fairly sick almost every morning for many months now, I've smoked pot daily for a few years and almost daily for a year or two before that, I currently smoke 1-2 grams of low grade mexican weed through a bubbler daily. It's never made me throw up but I often feel very sick to the stomach in the morning. Then I smoke some weed and eat some food and it goes away. I've always attributed the sick feeling to sinus drainage. Which is still what I think it probably is, but hey, it could be this other thing too. I worry that it might be because of pesticides used on the pot or some other impurity, it seems like it would have come up already within the last 20 or so years if it was caused by cannabis alone, because the claim is that 6 years of smoking can cause it.

dcraver877
30-08-2010, 20:46
jesus. everything is considered a "syndrome" these days. fuckin bs.

Jibult
30-08-2010, 21:12
I can't have any milk in the first 3 or 4 hours after I wake up or else I'll throw up pretty violently. Sometimes it's anything grain- or milk-based (normally after drinking), but I know that every single day I can't have any milk early on without getting sick.

I doubt it's related to Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome, but ya never know.

FacedAgain
31-08-2010, 14:05
When i was yonger (16-20) if i woke up early in the morning (before 8am ish) i would feel really nauseous and often throw up one or many times. I used to think it was because i worked in a photolab and was exposed to the chemicals...

But it wasnt weed. I didnt start smoking till 23.

IMO if u are going to flood your cannabinoiodal system consistantly for many years, then u gotta expect some effects, right? IMO the most logical explanation is that these stoners didnt maintain a healthy diet. Or they smoked chemically tainted (unflushed) bud. Or both, or other things.

What really shits me about these hypothesis is that people have smoked weed for centurys and there is actually alot of scientific data out there, they just dont bother to listen! Case and point as the Indian Sadhus. These holy men only eat vegaen food and often only consume cannabis for long periods as holy acts. Doctors can study and HAVE studyed this population for a very long time. And there are about 5million of them, so its pretty easy to gather some statistics about cannabis that way.

For interests sake, a doctor in a doco i watched recently described the most prominant long term effect is a mental degradation or physcosis after 20-30 years of heavy smokeing.. Not everyone, but its a definate observation... And if u have seen these guys toke, you would understand why.

radric davis
31-08-2010, 15:56
This is interesting. I have been a heavy smoker for 4 years and never experienced anything remotly similair to this. cannabis only destroys my naseua and has never contributed to it. Only drug that has destryoed my gag reflex is suboxone:p

TheAetherealMeadow
31-08-2010, 22:13
It seems to me as if the mechanism behind this is that since cannabis is an appetite stimulant/anit-emetic, people who experience this are having "rebound nausea". However, to my knowledge cannabis is not physically addictive enough to cause such a dramatic syndrome. The worst I feel after I stop smoking after a period of regular smoking is a slight loss of appetite, and certainly not to the point where it impedes my ability to eat. I think diet is probably a factor here. These people may be eating an unhealthy diet, and they may be getting the munchies and eating massive amounts of junk food, which is what may be causing these GI symptoms.

Coolio
31-08-2010, 23:19
Cannabis is definitely physically addictive enough to cause rebound nausea.

deez_nuggs
03-09-2010, 07:55
The way I see it, youre either physically addicted or you aren't. That's like saying I'm not pregnant enough to have a kid, but im still pregnant.

ComradeR
03-09-2010, 09:56
have all the people in such study posted everything they do? such as their diet, any work outs they may do? any other drugs?
I do get this feeling but it is not because of bud but of a messed up diet. plus other things like dxm... or beer.
eating a lot of munchies at night can make one wake up feeling crappy as well

Outta Pocket
03-09-2010, 17:48
I have experienced this but I attribute it more to anxiety and only happens if I smoked heavily the night before.

HINT: the cure is more weed

Chainer
03-09-2010, 19:07
oh no not this again...


just quit if you seriously smoke so much you get nausea. turn it down a level.

Cheechy
03-09-2010, 20:27
i've experienced this in the past, and did often attribute it to cannabis. More often then not though i wouldn't be suprised.

I would smoke 4-5 cigarettes, 4-5 bowls, and drink a beer within an hour or two before sleeping, and often binge eat food. in this sense it wouldn't suprise me waking up to a nauseous stomach.

deez_nuggs
05-09-2010, 18:29
dude, it sounds like you definitely have cannabis hyperemesis syndrome!

socalthizzn
05-09-2010, 18:42
Eat food.

chompy
06-09-2010, 06:49
how many people drink alcohol and smoke? low blood sugar may be the problem in the morning, the weed just masks the nausea for a little bit until you really need to eat.

dankstersauce
07-09-2010, 02:05
Whenever something like this comes to light I don't know what to think. I've smoked nearly daily for a decade and never felt anything like this. And none of my friends (heavier smokers than me) have ever mentioned anything like this.

I kind of wonder if this is legit or if it's just a susceptible mind running wild. Because while I've never had anything like CHS, I've definitely definitely had my mind run wild during periods of heavy cannabis use.

Captain.Heroin
07-09-2010, 03:08
The way I see it, youre either physically addicted or you aren't. That's like saying I'm not pregnant enough to have a kid, but im still pregnant.

Except, you can be pregnant, but not have a kid from it. Ever heard of an ectopic pregnancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectopic_pregnancy)?

Sadly the world is not as black and white as you may think it is.

.Lucid.
07-09-2010, 03:13
fuck man, i use to wake up everyday in high school and puke my guts out until i took a hit. i would tell people and they wouldnt even believe me.. theyd be like "from weed? no way." my parents even thought i was addicted to oxycontin because i would wake up so sick (i would later become addicted to oc's and heroin, but at this point i was only smoking weed.) so yea this is definitely a real thing!

deez_nuggs
07-09-2010, 07:42
Ok bad example. The point I was trying to make is that cannabis is in no way physically addictive.

shamus
10-09-2010, 06:50
Ok bad example. The point I was trying to make is that cannabis is in no way physically addictive.

Except you didn't even nearly approach that point. More trite babble from the mushy brain of a stoner.

The fact that a sweeping extent of this forum's contributors understand the world in these nonsense half-sentence adages reveals far more of the perils of weed than any direct reports of icky-tummy syndrome.

Although it's not the main source of worry amongst users, cannabis is physically addictive. Chronic exogenous supplementation of endogenous-like neurotransmitters will downregulate receptors/gene expression etc., Neuroscience 101.

There are millions of case studies on the net of physical withdrawals from weed, & I can name you a handful of my own friends who looked far more fucked up after a few days off than I have ever seen them whilst on the chron.



oh no not this again...


just quit if you seriously smoke so much you get nausea. turn it down a level.

Sage advice Master Chain, yet your pearls of wisdom don't preclude any investigation into the physical side-effects of weed.

I haven't seen you inject any positive contribution around here at all. seriously, who the f**k made you mod? & can I please have some of what they're smoking?

mutnat
31-12-2010, 15:35
This whole syndrome sounds like BS to me. I wake up feeling nauseous in the morning, but i attribute that to poor diet, lack of heavy sleep, and moderate binges with alcohol. I'm willing to bet anyone with "CHS" is either extremely mentally dependent on weed or, like i said, poor diet, sleep, or drinking problems. Cannabis should not cause problems.

you sound like BS

mutnat
31-12-2010, 15:38
The way I see it, youre either physically addicted or you aren't. That's like saying I'm not pregnant enough to have a kid, but im still pregnant.

the way I see it you don't know shit!

mutnat
31-12-2010, 15:40
oh no not this again...




Please do not talk shit about my fellow mods who spend a LOT of time and effort keeping this forum running neatly.

mutnat
31-12-2010, 15:42
Ok bad example. The point I was trying to make is that cannabis is in no way physically addictive.

maybe not, no name calling - p_c

mutnat
31-12-2010, 15:45
I have been smoking abusively for 10 years. None of this has ever happened to me. I only vomited once or twice from eating too much in a munchy frenzy in the old dayz.

But that gives me not the right to dismiss what other people experience.

I am lucky to have a superfast metabolism. I could binge eat after a serious pot session and then fall to bed and sleep with no problems during or after sleep.

This seems like a very real thing, for abusive users with weak stomachs.metabolism and/or bad diet . Psychological reason probably do their part I reckon...

YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

hardcheeba
31-12-2010, 19:25
lol this is a bunch of bullshit... learn how to hold your fucking smoke.

childofthenight
31-12-2010, 20:53
one time I smoked a lot one night ..I mean ALOT of nasty beasters out of a massive glass bong. My friend just kept packing it I we just kept smoking it for hours . I remember not wanting to smoke any more cuz I was so high but I just kept taking rips..Well I woke up the next day and felt like shit of course and threw up all morning !!! hhaa that was a couple years ago and I had been smoking heavily every day for about 3 yrs then..never got sick again tho....before I started smoking weed I would wake up and be very sick and sometimes throw up. I usually could not eat in the morning either before I started smoking...

mutnat
31-12-2010, 22:08
lol this is a bunch of bullshit... learn how to hold your fucking smoke.

[No - Chainer]

hardcheeba
01-01-2011, 00:26
No

I don't do drugs. i only smoke weed. toke the fuck up and hold your hits you bitches. lol @ throwing up because of weed. train your lungs betta.

deez_nuggs
01-01-2011, 16:50
hey mutnat, how about instead of sounding like an uneducated nark, maybe suck it up, smoke another joint, and, oh yeah-change your username cause its fuckin [No - Chainer]. no one goes into withdrawls from not smoking weed.. you sound like a paranoid soccer mom, dumbass

mutnat
01-01-2011, 16:59
hardcheepba>

of course you are a druggie. wtf r u doing in BL anywayz?

Unless you are here doing a case study on druggiez, but I bet the rest of my pot stash you have no brainz to do a case study. Therefore you make stupid comments in a serious thread.

fucker

deez_nuggs
01-01-2011, 20:08
only someone as ignorant as you would quote a stupid japanese video game and attempt to use that as their side of an argument..have fun "withdrawling" from something my 8 year old cousin couldnt get addicted to

Chainer
01-01-2011, 23:00
Way to ruin a thread.

I'm glad you did, this thread was shit anyway.