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OxyMorph
28-04-2010, 04:11
I have sum lsd thats on paper and i want to try and shoot a little of it. how would i go about doing it?

LSDMDMA&AMP
28-04-2010, 04:14
not advisable, but, in theory, i would assume one would use a ML or two of DISTILLED water, NOT tapwater, and just soak the blotter in it for a period of time. Shooting acid isnt a smart idea...

jamaica0535
28-04-2010, 04:15
^^why is it any worse than anything else?

I would rather just use a vial and dilute a few drops with a couple ml of distilled water and just do that....

Delsyd
28-04-2010, 04:39
Shooting LSD in and of itself is not dangerous as far as i know.
Aldous Huxley took some on his death bed.

But it doesnt offer anything that would make it preferable over other ROA's.
(It still takes 30-60min to come up. The dose is the same)

Shooting LSD you get from blotter us not advisable though.

Just eat iit.

Shambles
28-04-2010, 04:44
^ That. The only reason I can think of to shoot a drug is for the rapid onset/rush/increased BA - none of those things apply to LSD ergo (=D) it's fairly pointless other than to say you've done it. Munch that paper down - it's subjectively all but indistinguishable from IVing it.

Delsyd
28-04-2010, 04:52
^^why is it any worse than anything else?

I would rather just use a vial and dilute a few drops with a couple ml of distilled water and just do that....

liquid is usually diluted in some sort of alcohol as well as the residue of the sweet breath dropper.
I wouldnt recomend IVing that.

poppywonderland
28-04-2010, 05:08
When I saw.this all I could think is why? Why? Would.you want to do that!

beagleboy
28-04-2010, 05:34
(It still takes 30-60min to come up. The dose is the same)
Delsyd
Anthony Kedis of the red hot chili peppers wrote in his book that when he injects LSD, he "immediately peaks". Is this crack head kedis a liar too?

Delsyd
28-04-2010, 05:37
i guess he is...

tribalDJ
28-04-2010, 05:47
I thought I read something about the onset being almost immediate too, might have been in the book acid dreams? Something about Huxley or one of the other early acid heads who IV'ed it on the deathbed. Maybe Leary? I'm no expert tho, if the mods say it doesn't work I'd bet it doesn't!

Anyway even with distilled water, who knows what kind of germs and crap are on that paper? Or how well it was synthesized and what other chems/byproducts are on it? Sounds like a horrible idea.

Shambles
28-04-2010, 05:51
Delsyd
Anthony Kedis of the red hot chili peppers wrote in his book that when he injects LSD, he "immediately peaks". Is this crack head kedis a liar too?

Yes he is.

In vaguely related RHCP news, some years ago my college psychology tutor who just so happened to also work on a national radio station at the time interviewed the Peppers on air once. They all got nekkid as was their wont at the time and Anthony Kiedis has an almost 90 degree kink in his cock. True story. I think they may have sobered up a bit since. But Kiedis remains the only one on that Abbey Road skit poster they did who didn't need anything but what he naturally has to keep the sock on.

Delsyd
28-04-2010, 05:52
It was Huxley. He had his wife administer it.

It didnt say anywhere that the onset was immediate though.

tribalDJ
28-04-2010, 05:54
^ Ok that sounds right, I bet I got confused because it's so unusual for something IV'ed not to take effect quickly.

Delsyd
28-04-2010, 06:01
One time while I was at the Outpost, I had been shooting coke and speed, and I ran out of everything. There comes a point when you want to keep shooting something, even if you’re high, just to get a new rush. Someone had given me a hit of acid and I had a bottle of vodka, so I took the acid, put it in a spoon, poured some vodka in the spoon, dissolved that blotter acid as best I could, and shot the LSD mixed with vodka. It was the first time I ever peaked on acid in one second.

--Anthony Kiedis, lead singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Ramirez
28-04-2010, 06:05
"I would never use a needle. I never have and I never will. You last about six months when you start shooting, whatever you shoot. Even tap water."

Raw Evil
28-04-2010, 07:06
"I would never use a needle. I never have and I never will. You last about six months when you start shooting, whatever you shoot. Even tap water."

I absolutely loved A Scanner Darkly. Great story. (The movie was pretty sweet too :) )

Ramirez
28-04-2010, 07:33
The book is even more strange than the movie, because you get to read more of their weird druggie conversations. The movie followed the book pretty well, too, with a few minor exceptions of course, like Freck's character being merged with Jerry Fabin.

Definitely my favorite drug movie.

beagleboy
28-04-2010, 12:55
Quote:
One time while I was at the Outpost, I had been shooting coke and speed, and I ran out of everything. There comes a point when you want to keep shooting something, even if you’re high, just to get a new rush. Someone had given me a hit of acid and I had a bottle of vodka, so I took the acid, put it in a spoon, poured some vodka in the spoon, dissolved that blotter acid as best I could, and shot the LSD mixed with vodka. It was the first time I ever peaked on acid in one second.

--Anthony Kiedis, lead singer of the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

how did you source the book? Do you own it? I did, got rid of the fuckin' thing. Made me want to go out and smoke crack on a motorcycle.

pacoperu
28-04-2010, 16:56
A Scanner Darkly

pacoperu
28-04-2010, 16:57
I missed that movie altogether, bluelight 'adds value' again! thanks

justalex
28-04-2010, 22:48
If you really want a more immediate reaction, i heard putting it in your eye creates pretty instant visual effects at least. but. i would agree, not to shoot it..

lightitup
28-04-2010, 23:28
If you really want a more immediate reaction, i heard putting it in your eye creates pretty instant visual effects at least. but. i would agree, not to shoot it..

Myth. And dirty/painful.

Just put it in your mouth. As said already, there are no benefits.

Feste
29-04-2010, 00:32
Shooting LSD in and of itself is not dangerous as far as i know.
Aldous Huxley took some on his death bed.

As he was dying I doubt it mattered too much if it was safe!

sixpartseven
29-04-2010, 01:25
As a long time IV drug user, I feel I should point out that if you do ultimately decide to IV it (I don't see a need to IV it, so would suggest not doing it), don't use "a ML or two" as someone suggested. Most syringes made for IV use do not hold more than 1cc (1ml), so anything more than that and you will have to do multiple shots, and it's best to put as little foreign fluid in your veins as possible.

ChronicHD
29-04-2010, 04:27
When I saw.this all I could think is why? Why? Would.you want to do that!

Agreed. WHYYY?

OP: If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

Shambles
29-04-2010, 15:53
If you really want a more immediate reaction, i heard putting it in your eye creates pretty instant visual effects at least. but. i would agree, not to shoot it..

Having done it, and knowing many others who have too, I can assure you that is a complete myth. It's also not good to drop alcohol (or whatever the liquid is) onto your eyeball. Let alone blotting paper. Or gels. Or microdots.

psychomimetic
29-04-2010, 20:06
It was Huxley. He had his wife administer it.

It didnt say anywhere that the onset was immediate though.

Huxley got an IM injection, not an IV, his wife gave him an IM shot of 100 mics followed by another shot of the same size an hour later. I bet that was pretty interesting for Huxley, it'd be cool to die tripping in my opinion.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/03/most-beautiful-death.html

beagleboy
02-05-2010, 07:17
Dos not what KING OF WOODSTOCK 99 sayeth the truth??
It would truly set my person free of a bad trip thats had happen at woodstock 99' freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Tricky Nicky Tricky Nicky.

If infact, what this crack head Anthony Kedis says in indeed a lie ( I'ving lsd provides an immediate peak) I would like an apology from THE WHOLE FUCKIN' WOODSTOCK NATION ie. You know who I am. I'm waiting in the cut wearing KJ's thong. Straight up. I've got some manual labor for you fools. Let's get it together. No hard feelings.

DexterMeth
02-05-2010, 07:37
"I would never use a needle. I never have and I never will. You last about six months when you start shooting, whatever you shoot. Even tap water."

Great book/movie but a complete lie.

green grow
03-05-2010, 08:39
I don't think there is any benifit at all to injecting LSD. It may be detremental, i.e. some lsd will get lost by stiking to needle, mixing container, etc.

Just no reason to do this. It will NOT cause a quicker peek.

homeydontplaythat
04-05-2010, 00:49
i have done it myself. it seems to increase the BA but not the onset. if i ever use drugs again i basically inject everything i can. the casualty of being an inactive IDU, sigh.

pheungies
18-10-2010, 06:42
Im about to do it and let u guys know a review. got everything i need if i dont reply, dont try it lol.

ganja god
18-10-2010, 07:05
Myth. And dirty/painful.

Just put it in your mouth. As said already, there are no benefits.

actually its not. It does twinge a bit but you will be peaking within ten minutes and you'll feel it in five. If you do this though be confident in its purity.

pheungies
18-10-2010, 07:28
i did shot hit, started comin up, and shot another. im startin to trip rather hard and its been about 20 mins since the first shot and according to most it takes 30 to peak so in 30 from now i should reach my full peak. but it feels just like i took it except that slow up-coming is shortened into 10-15 mins rather than 45mins-1hr. so far so good. itll take a full trip to say if it was worth it or not so ill give another review, way later.

pheungies
18-10-2010, 22:14
It was beneficial in my opinion. The onset was increased drastically, i think, maybe it was just the BA because it still climbed for an hour. looking back its a little hard to tell as twisted as i felt all night. definitely DOESNT shorten the duration but i had a very pleasant come down without help from benzos, which i rarely find in psychedelics.

SKL
19-10-2010, 00:49
IV LSD causes the "weirdness" that is part of the come up to hit more or less immediately, but other than that the time frame stays the same. 30-45 minutes up or so.

psilocybonaut
19-10-2010, 00:55
IV LSD causes the "weirdness" that is part of the come up to hit more or less immediately, but other than that the time frame stays the same. 30-45 minutes up or so.
Yeah, that's what I thought. I heard it comes on almost instantly, but it still takes like 20-30 minutes to peak.

nopipesdfw
19-10-2010, 03:37
Munch that paper down - it's subjectively all but indistinguishable from IVing it.

I know somebody who said John Lily strongly stated otherwise.. but I am still siding on your side of the page.


Anybody know about this claim?

chronic bubonic
19-10-2010, 03:53
I used to know a guy who used to shoot LSD.... He's dead now, but I have to say, i saw him do it one time, and the effects seemed pretty instantaneous...

8L4YN3
19-10-2010, 04:47
Delsyd
Anthony Kedis of the red hot chili peppers wrote in his book that when he injects LSD, he "immediately peaks". Is this crack head kedis a liar too?

I have a good friend of mine who has injected what was apparently LSD on blotter, he just put some saline in the bag and left it for a minute and let it dissolve then drew the shit and slammed it, he claimed it also peaked instantly...

Which made me assume it wasn't LSD... Does anyone have any proof that LSD does infact still have the same onset time injecting and eating?

psilocybonaut
19-10-2010, 04:54
Here's a page of an article that says effects were noted 'within minutes' after administration intravenously, not instantaneously. Also notes that intraspinal is instantaneous.

http://books.google.com/books?id=3s5vkfmXKNUC&pg=PA149&lpg=PA149&dq=intravenous+lsd+onset&source=bl&ots=SdR6VrbdQ3&sig=ZKOdV9dJQwnBCq5iyj-F4AD8gNc&hl=en&ei=d_m8TNjNKozungeAn-iJDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAg

SKL
19-10-2010, 05:15
Instantaneous as in what, though? Full on tripping, or feeling "something?"

psilocybonaut
19-10-2010, 05:17
Probably feeling something, I don't know. Can you get to the article from that link?

Detrevni
19-10-2010, 05:29
I would think that it would increase the onset slightly, maybe cut off 20 minutes or so because it's gonna take time for the L to go through your tongue and into bloodstream. IV would get there in less than a minute. So as a few others have said it'll decrease the first alerts by half an hour or less but the peak will still take a little time due to its mechanism of action. Even if the peak goes from 1.5 hours to 0.5 hours I don't think it's worth the hassle to prep for IV IMO. That is all based on my speculation though as I have not tried it personally. I'd just say wait the extra hour honestly.

Detrevni
19-10-2010, 05:31
Also notes that intraspinal is instantaneous.


If that doesn't work I would just go with the spinal tap route to be on the safe side :p. /sarcasm

CaseFace
19-10-2010, 05:44
I would think that it would increase the onset slightly, maybe cut off 20 minutes or so because it's gonna take time for the L to go through your tongue and into bloodstream. IV would get there in less than a minute.


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And i never understood why people were so inclined to inject shit even when they knew it wouldn't be beneficial. Like shooting benzos. They aren't water soluble yet people talk about it all the time in OD...

raver2008
20-10-2010, 22:54
Same way you would inject anything really. Add water, filter, inject. But it wont make a difference really, just like u could snort lsd if u wanted, there just isnt much point in doing either. It would be amazing if you could go from sober to instantly tripping but sadly that wont happen, maybe its possible with a different pyshc though

johannes kreisler
20-10-2010, 23:34
smoked DMT is what I would call instantaneous...

Detrevni
22-10-2010, 08:36
^+1

SKL
22-10-2010, 08:40
To touch on that I prefer my DMT intramuscular, for a gradual, slow come up, and a more prolonged peak, and a gentle comedown.

IV DMT is more or less the same as smoking but has the advantage of not having to smoke that horrible shit, and being able to be sure of your dose