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Minxy
08-04-2010, 23:16
I am interested to know because I often pull all-nighters on speed, sometimes staying awake for up to four nights. After the second night awake I start feeling dizzy when I stand up and after three nights im often hallucinating. The visuals and disorientation dont really bother me but I do get a bit worried that I am doing myself some lasting physical/mental damage. Obviously I lose my appetite but I always try to drink plenty of fluids. What do you guys think?

Sweet P
09-04-2010, 00:21
The longest I've been up was 5 days and 5 nights. That's around 120 hours. It ended with me going into a meth psychosis (actually I had already been psychotic for a few days - I seem to start hallucinating and getting delusional/paranoid on the third day mark) and spending some time in the psych hospital. But there's not specific amount of time that someone can stay awake before going loopy. It differs from person to person.

Askeladden
09-04-2010, 00:48
37 min

Violenza666
09-04-2010, 01:55
Have you ever seen the movie "the machinist"? lol

aushippy
09-04-2010, 02:03
Usually about the 3 day mark for me but I've done 5 days without psychosis before. Depends on alot of other factors as well like how much cones I'd been smoking also, how potent the gear is, stress plays a huge factor for me.

Minxy
09-04-2010, 02:05
No I havent seen The Machinist, I just looked at the summary on IMDB though, it looks interesting,

Do you think you can feel yourself losing it or would you just go onto auto-pilot?

Violenza666
09-04-2010, 02:07
^Interesting perspective on insomnia and going mad from not sleeping... I find if I stay up for 72 hours or more I am not "quite there" so too speak... I have stayed awake 7 days.. Now I try to force myself to sleep atleast 4 hours a night.. but if I am *that* tired once I pass out I am dead to the world until I rise.. lol

RedRum OG
09-04-2010, 02:39
depends how youre doing it. with drugs especially meth its probably a lot shorter. staying awake on pure will power probably leaves you mostly sane a little longer

flyinghighgirl
09-04-2010, 02:51
longest i stayed awake was 3 days, this was without taking anything though

sdripper
09-04-2010, 06:21
I thought I heard on an episode of House that the longest you can stay awake ( no REM sleep) before you die is 10 days. umm , it was because your brain needs REM sleep to heal and repair or something, and 10 days without it would cause brain death.

??hmm is it true?

Sweet P
09-04-2010, 06:38
Check out these videos:

The Secrets Of Sleep: Sleep Deprivation (Part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1WKj3vJPf8)

The Secrets Of Sleep: Sleep Deprivation (Part 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh6QFhKFFpc)

It was an experiment in the 50's to see if a guy could stay awake for 8 days, without the aid of stimulants. Very interesting.

footscrazy
09-04-2010, 15:27
There is a genetic disorder called fatal familial insomnia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia)that makes it impossible to sleep.

It is incurable, and leads to death in 100% of cases. These people hold on without sleep for between 7 and 36 months. What a terrible way to go...

paranoid android
09-04-2010, 15:45
^^^ Uh ive heard of that fuck that must be pure torture.

Ive stayed awake 4 days while manic (no stimulants where consumned) and 4 days with dextroamphetamine. I was batshit crazy after 4 days with no sleep while manic and i finally had the sense to knock it all out with olanzapine. 4 days with no sleep on dextroamphetamine didnt leave me quite as crazy though the shadow people where paying me plenty of visits :\

InsaneJane
17-12-2010, 20:49
Ive habitually been awake for several days at a time for the past year now. Even while in hospital and despite being given high doses of tranquilizers I was up without even an hour of sleep for 3 days. During my 3 months there it wasnt uncommon for me to sleep every other night, or less than 2 hours in a night. I should mention that they discontinued my clonazepam cold turkey, and I was on 8-12mg/day for 6 years. I was so anxiety ridden and my OCD was completely out of control which caused me to override the sedating effect of assorted neurolyptics they decided would substitute and i spent most nights in hysterics on my hands and knees trying to scrub the floors in the dark with the linnens id hoarded.

I thought that was going to be the worst of it but now I think Ive really crossed into a whole new realm of sleep deprivation. Ive stopped taking all my medication and use cocaine almost everyday. Ive been awake for more than 6 days and I honestly dont know how I am even slightly cognitive but I am starting to wonder if I will ever sleep without going back on benzos and antipsychotics =/

Anyone care to weigh in?

InsaneJane
17-12-2010, 20:56
I thought I heard on an episode of House that the longest you can stay awake ( no REM sleep) before you die is 10 days. umm , it was because your brain needs REM sleep to heal and repair or something, and 10 days without it would cause brain death.

??hmm is it true?

Sort of- it depends how you define asleep and awake. Even if you appear to be awake for an extended period of time, its almost impossible to avoid microsleep. They can be fractions of a second to a minute or so and are usually only detected with brain wave monitoring. Im guessing this is whats happening everytime I blink or something cuz I dont know how I am still going!

rickolasnice
17-12-2010, 21:04
I am interested to know because I often pull all-nighters on speed, sometimes staying awake for up to four nights. After the second night awake I start feeling dizzy when I stand up and after three nights im often hallucinating. The visuals and disorientation dont really bother me but I do get a bit worried that I am doing myself some lasting physical/mental damage. Obviously I lose my appetite but I always try to drink plenty of fluids. What do you guys think?

Yeah if you carry on like that i'm pretty sure you're going to soon start gettin paranoia + stimulant psychosis on those benders. I used to do the same. Loved sleep deprivation at first. Then over time i got more paranoid. Didn't stop. Then i started getting stimulant psychosis at varying degrees pretty much everytime i took speed. Didn't stop. Had a few nasty stimulant psychosis break downs and am now pretty much constantly paranoid to some level. Hurrah!

rickolasnice
17-12-2010, 21:06
Ive habitually been awake for several days at a time for the past year now. Even while in hospital and despite being given high doses of tranquilizers I was up without even an hour of sleep for 3 days. During my 3 months there it wasnt uncommon for me to sleep every other night, or less than 2 hours in a night. I should mention that they discontinued my clonazepam cold turkey, and I was on 8-12mg/day for 6 years. I was so anxiety ridden and my OCD was completely out of control which caused me to override the sedating effect of assorted neurolyptics they decided would substitute and i spent most nights in hysterics on my hands and knees trying to scrub the floors in the dark with the linnens id hoarded.

I thought that was going to be the worst of it but now I think Ive really crossed into a whole new realm of sleep deprivation. Ive stopped taking all my medication and use cocaine almost everyday. Ive been awake for more than 6 days and I honestly dont know how I am even slightly cognitive but I am starting to wonder if I will ever sleep without going back on benzos and antipsychotics =/

Anyone care to weigh in?

Ask for some "z drugs".. Zoplicone, etc..

lordreven333
17-12-2010, 21:30
Jesus Christ .... WOH the longest Ive ever been awake would be 72 hours =3 days for those of you bad at math

gameace12
17-12-2010, 21:32
During opiate withdrawals I was up for around nine to ten days straight without sleep and went around seven without eating. Using drugs to do it makes it a hell of a lot worse though, also insomnia / opiate withdrawals and sleeping pills etc work you over pretty badly.

I would have to say it varies from person to person, I know some people who start getting weird as hell after only being up for two days or so. I also know some people like me who can go insane amounts of time without sleep and be the same.

A bit off topic, but any time I'm up for like four or more days I almost always watch the movie Spun it pretty much perfectly fits my mood after being up for numerous days.

bennoculus
17-12-2010, 22:05
While I was withdrawaling from opiates and benzos in an inpatient facility I was up for seven days.

Also used to go on four day crack/IV cocaine binges fairly often. At the end of day two is when the madness starts kicking in for me.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
18-12-2010, 00:03
I've stayed up for 4 nights from methamphetamine use. The third night is when I start seeing shadow people, become paranoid, think cops are coming and begin looking out the curtains and peep holes. I became confused on who is real or who is a shadow person by the fourth day.

InsaneJane
18-12-2010, 00:15
Ask for some "z drugs".. Zoplicone, etc..

LOL, those lost any effect years ago. I still have some, took about 10, made me drowsyish for about 15 minutes and doesnt help the anxiety that overrides and sedation or compulsion to do wakeful activities such as scrub floors and do laundry repeatedly. Ive washed my bedding, including the comforters several times this week and the irony is that I havnt slept in my bed once. Aaaahhh yay OCD

Im more just wondering if I can wait this out or if I should just resign myself to benzos and neuroplytics

Depressicaa
18-12-2010, 00:29
It depends on the drug really. If you have stronger drug, it will be much less psychotic, but if you have a weaker one, then you will be more so. I think the world records is 27 days without sleep.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_Ngoc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Herpin
How about these people?

InsaneJane
18-12-2010, 07:49
I've stayed up for 4 nights from methamphetamine use. The third night is when I start seeing shadow people, become paranoid, think cops are coming and begin looking out the curtains and peep holes. I became confused on who is real or who is a shadow person by the fourth day.

LOL...I kinda wish I had shadow people. Its lonely here all night!

I got ridiculously paranoid when I first stopped the clonazepam and was having acute withdrawl. I actually caused a code white (violent patient) and a code yellow (missing patient- I stuffed myself in a locker and hid during the nursing shift change) on the psych ward =D I wish I could watch a replay of that it would probably be pretty hilarious to see a 70lb girl go apeshit on several large male nurses 8o

fryingsquirrel
18-12-2010, 07:55
12 days is my personal record. This was part of an experiment (that's my story and I'm sticking to it) on the affects of using DXM to reduce prevent methamphetamine tolerance. The experiment worked better than my wildest dreams

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
20-12-2010, 02:11
12 days is my personal record. This was part of an experiment (that's my story and I'm sticking to it) on the affects of using DXM to reduce prevent methamphetamine tolerance. The experiment worked better than my wildest dreams

Well your tolerance reduced because you stopped taking it for 12 days. Was it really worth it though, I mean 12 days is ridiculous. :\

fryingsquirrel
20-12-2010, 06:30
Well your tolerance reduced because you stopped taking it for 12 days. Was it really worth it though, I mean 12 days is ridiculous. :\That the weird part, I didn't even realize how long I'd been up until my wife mentioned it and I looked at a calender. No paranoia even though I was involved in some things which gave me ample reason to be. No increase in either dose or frequency.

But yeah, 12 days is pretty ridiculous.

InsaneJane
24-12-2010, 20:15
^^ fryingsquirrel, I've often been unaware of how many days have actually passed when awake for many days at a time. Its strange to come to realize that you have been awake for 4 or 5 days but it only feels like 2. I've stopped viewing time in terms of days- I tend to use terms like "before the last time it was dark out" instad of yesterday heh :/


ETA- Despite large doses of clonazepam, seroquel, and assorted sleeping pills (zopliclone etc) not having any affect on my insomnia...went back on my antidepressant and now Im sleeping fairly regularly. Even with heavy use of stimulants. Go figure

fryingsquirrel
24-12-2010, 20:20
^^ fryingsquirrel, I've often been unaware of how many days have actually passed when awake for many days at a time. Its strange to come to realize that you have been awake for 4 or 5 days but it only feels like 2. I've stopped viewing time in terms of days- I tend to use terms like "before the last time it was dark out" instad of yesterday heh :/lol, yeah I ordinarily don't pay much attention to time when i'm tweaking. my wife however kept very accurate count. One of hundreds of reasons we aren't together anymore.

phatass
24-12-2010, 22:09
4 days without sleep and i went into a pharmacy with a kitchen knife ;)... is he joking?

dildonian jr.
24-12-2010, 22:12
i stayed up for five days and went mad
i started hallucinating
i was skitzin out
there was a hell demon that followed me around >>>>
it scared the living shit out of me and i ended up at a mental hospital

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
25-12-2010, 00:34
I wound up at a mental institution also from staying up to long. I was up for like 4 days and I thought the neighbors to the left were plotting to kill me and neighbors on the right talking so much shit about me. I got so angered that I threw a rock in their pool and tossed all my garbage in their backyard. I was then taken to a psych ward, they drove up to my driveway and took me away.

scottishdnb
25-12-2010, 03:07
I got the first stages of stimulant psychosis after being awake for 5 days and 5 nights on Desoxypipradrol !

Did not know I was consuming this substance.. fun times

Thomas29
25-12-2010, 03:52
I suffer from extreme insomnia and for more than a SOLID year. Yes literally 365+ Days I have been getting anywhere from no sleep to 7 hours a night and I do not take ANY STIMULANTS what sooo ever except some MDMA recently or maybe some green tea every now and then but Caffeine never did shit to me. I know for a fact that the reason I do not sleep is 80% to blame on stress. I did not sleep for 5 straight days and this was with intense physical exercise. Seriously the worse most cruel painful form of torture known to man kind. The only thing that is worse than extreme sleep deprivation is maybe Kidney stones and or child birth.

ugly
25-12-2010, 04:13
I do not know how long I might be able to force myself to stay awake but I do know that I do meth for three days so that I can go slightly nuts and get all twisted the third day. Never been out of control, I just have really learned that it's all about the third day for me, and enjoying feeling really REALLY high.

the outsider
25-12-2010, 04:29
My personal best is 4 days & nights on desoxypipradrol (shitty, shitty stimulant btw). Night 3 is when things get weird. I felt pretty crazy by night 4, took a bucketload of diazepam to calm me down.


I thought I heard on an episode of House that the longest you can stay awake ( no REM sleep) before you die is 10 days. umm , it was because your brain needs REM sleep to heal and repair or something, and 10 days without it would cause brain death.

??hmm is it true?


No it's not. Look up fatal familial insomnia; it's a rare condition wherein you lose the capacity to sleep entirely. Takes a couple of months before you slip into coma & die.

the outsider
25-12-2010, 04:30
I got the first stages of stimulant psychosis after being awake for 5 days and 5 nights on Desoxypipradrol !

Did not know I was consuming this substance.. fun times

Ooooh I didn't see this before I posted! Yeah great fun isn't it :\

ugly
25-12-2010, 04:30
^ well there's worse ways to die than that.

InsaneJane
25-12-2010, 12:47
lol, yeah I ordinarily don't pay much attention to time when i'm tweaking. my wife however kept very accurate count. One of hundreds of reasons we aren't together anymore.

Heh, the scariest part is that it wasnt correlated with my coke use. Seemed not to make much difference. I was in hospital for a few months in the summer, a locked ward which I wasnt allowed to leave untill I slept for 2 consecutive nights. Didnt happen the entire time. They would come with a flashlight and log my sleep every half hour. That made me more paranoid than Ive ever been when Im cracked out in my apartment lol. I spent most of the night under my bed with a flashlight cuz I thought they were watching me from some secret hidden camera LMAO Poor nurses!!

Anyway... now Ive gone from sleeping 10 hours/week to sleeping 10+ hours everyday. Im becoming a narcoleptic, sleeping all the time, any time, at random despite increased use. Fell asleep halfway through cooking the other day, woke up on the floor with the stove on fire 8o I cant win....middle ground? Whats that?8)

InsaneJane
25-12-2010, 13:08
[QUOTE=the outsider;9145439]My personal best is 4 days & nights on desoxypipradrol (shitty, shitty stimulant btw). Night 3 is when things get weird. I felt pretty crazy by night 4, took a bucketload of diazepam to calm me down.
QUOTE]

7 full 24 hour periods (lost track of night and day) and part of the 8th. Then passed out in the middle of attempting to eat cereal, only to wake up 4 hours later rolling around in said cereal. Talk about waking up on the wrong side of bed =D

I recall at one point believing it was necessary to wrap my head in saran wrap...wish I could remember why hahaha. It wasnt very funny at all at the time tho :(

Cohesion
25-12-2010, 14:58
Jane-> Sucks to hear about some of your extreme states. So did you take the benzo? What's so bad about benzo (other than tolerance) if it was working?


______

On a completely different note:

Thanks everyone for the hope! Today is my 3rd morning and spent 2 nights awake. I was a little worried about the holiday gathering today but based on the testimony here, I'm good to goooo. Gettin psyched. Need to wrap gifts and set up some more frames.

BL, you are a double edged sword. Addictive as hell, but oh so stimulating what with the endless bits of information inside.

dboi92
14-03-2011, 03:43
it depends on the person. It was always around the 6th day that the auditory hallucinations would start to get a little out of control. When me and my friend were cleaning in the morning after about a weeks time as well, there was only 2 of us there, but while I was sweeping the carpet(yes, thats right), I was somehow having a conversation with our friend, except for the fact that he was in merced, not with us. The point I was making is that it depends on the person, but its usually around the 5th day is when it gets harder. I've had a friend that was hearing shit in less than a days time though too, she was trippin me out haha

Sweet P
14-03-2011, 04:23
I've pretty much stopped staying awake for days on meth binges like I used to. I still use meth a lot, and sometimes I'll still have one or two nights without sleep, but any longer than that becomes uneconomical as I need to use larger and larger quantities to stay awake and fight off the fatigue. I find it better to take a short-acting anti-psychotic (for me, Seroquel works a charm) each night to force myself to sleep, and then have another hit when I wake up the next morning. I find I suffer no psychosis whatsoever as long as I get some sleep, which leads me to think sleep deprivation is the main factor behind meth/stimulant psychosis.

DrugstoreCowboy83
14-03-2011, 22:56
There is a genetic disorder called fatal familial insomnia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia)

Wow. I just read all the wiki stuff and that is the worst thing I could imagine. What a terrible disorder. Puts my problems in perspective. I've been having a terrible time sleeping due to alpraz. weening, but jesus, I'll think twice before I complain next time.

Methadone84
14-03-2011, 23:17
i heard somewhere that after a certain amount of days without sleep it stays as bad as what it is. Like after 10 days without sleep it will be the same as 20 days without sleep.

Not sure if its true just heard it somehwere.

GlassAss420
14-03-2011, 23:56
"70lb girl" here there sxy..

Charles Ferdinand
14-03-2011, 23:57
There is a genetic disorder called fatal familial insomnia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia)that makes it impossible to sleep.

It is incurable, and leads to death in 100% of cases. These people hold on without sleep for between 7 and 36 months. What a terrible way to go...

The death is most likely caused by the prions and not for not sleeping per se.
Being sober, you will probably get psychotic after 4~5 days.
The most I went without sleeping was 4 days when I quit benzos cold turkey, after that I passed out for about 3 hours.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
15-03-2011, 05:41
I've worn myself out so much during my years that now just 24 hours will make me start to go a little crazy. 48 hours and I'll be completely losing it. I don't think my body will let me go more than a few days.

NeighborhoodThreat
15-03-2011, 05:48
^I think 48 hours is about right for people without either tolerance to amphetamines or something "abnormal" about their sleep-wake cycle, so your mileage may vary. The first time I took a high dose (and by "high dose" I mean 60mg) of Adderall I ended up staying up for two and a half days and I was starting to see things moving in the corner of my eye and thought people were following me, etc. I was also extremely paranoid about the police following my cell phone around on a computer screen at the end of that.

I've stayed awake for longer and it wasn't as bad but it wasn't due to amphetamines, so I think that dopamine push brings you closer to psychosis when combined with lack of sleep compared to just not sleeping for a while.

It's different for a lot of people though, just like some people can do six hours of sleep a day their whole lives and other people need 10-12 hours a day.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
15-03-2011, 06:02
See, that was what used to happen to me but no longer can I stay awake that long. Recently I just went 48 hours and was FUCKED. On an amphetamine binge, about 200mg a day. I'm still currently on that binge but got a few hours of sleep. That is generally what happens now during binges. My body just won't let me go longer than a couple of days but I've gone almost as long as a week years ago. When I used to binge it would be several days.