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jake99
09-03-2010, 05:01
When a police officer pulls you over for a traffic violation and takes your license , do they run a check to see if yuo have warrants ? Isnt that what the NCIC system is , (i think they just put yuor license number in and it searches the databse they have to see if yuo have any "hitS" or warrants . Correct ? Someone told me that they dont do that at every stop if they dont have reason to but i figure when you are pulled over that is what they are usually waiting on before they give you a ticket or let you off with a warning............(i am asking because one time i thought i might have had old warrants i needed to take care of and i got pulled over and nothing came up so i assumed i was ok but not sure) Anyway i wanted to double check , so i went to my township court clerk and they ran my name and said i didnt have any warrants.............I wanted to know for sure because i had a trip to france coming up and althuogh i got my Passport with no problem , i didnt wanna have a old warrant for unpaid fines and get locked up at the airport or not be able to make it ti France......................

mark1966
09-03-2010, 05:07
The police almost always check for warrants. If they suspect anything they can they often take everyone in the cars Identification, even people who arent even driving just to try to catch some innocent bystander who has a warrant

Coolio
09-03-2010, 05:43
They don't do it at every stop, but they almost always do. Some police will look it up, and won't tell you that they saw the warrant, if it's marked as non-extraditable or out of state or whatever factors show up on their computer screen, because that means they aren't authorized to actually arrest you for the warrant from so far away.

is300ss
09-03-2010, 07:36
yeah man its just because you didn't have a warrant out.

your right they type in your number and theres everything for them to read. They defiantly take you in right away if you have a warrant. Shit my mom got a ticket because my puppy ran away. she didnt pay it on time, got pulled over for a tail light being out and she got arrested and brought to lock up.

Now I have a question though...

What if its just a stupid little warrant and your out of the state that you have the warrant in?

does it still show up on there computer?

Coolio
09-03-2010, 16:55
It shows up but they don't necessarily say anything. I had an out of state warrant for many years; some cops handcuffed me and threw me in the cruiser until they heard back from the county it was in, some asked me, "Did you know you had a felony warrant?", but didn't do anything about it when I said yes, and others didn't even MENTION it. It depends on the cop and the nature of the traffic stop, etc.

forgotten
09-03-2010, 19:21
Here is how a traffic stop happens in Florida (I only use this state as an example because I am familiar with it, but it is nearly identical everywhere).

1. An officer decides to stop a vehicle.
2. The officer calls dispatch to alert them that he is stopping a vehicle, provides the location of the stop, provides the tag number and vehicle description.
3. The dispatcher takes all the information and inputs it into the dispatch software.
4. The software automatically runs a query through NCIC to check for a hit on the tag number to see if the vehicle or tag is reported stolen. At the same time, a query is sent to the DMV to ascertain the registered owner of the vehicle and whether or not that person has a valid license. That information is then also sent as a query through NCIC to check if the registered owner of the vehicle is wanted. This entire process takes about 15 seconds.
5. The dispatcher will alert the officer if there is a possible name, vehicle or tag hit.
6. If there are no hits, the officer will approach the vehicle and determine the identity of the person driving. If it's not the registered owner, the officer will run the drivers DL number through the DMV system which will also trigger the same queries listed in paragraph 4.
7. If a warrant is discovered, it will be verified with the originating agency. Verification looks something like this:

http://bayimg.com/image/halmpaacb.jpg

With the age of technology, it would be foolish to assume that the police wouldn't check every person they come into contact with.

jake99
09-03-2010, 19:29
What if you had a warrant that you didnt even know you had (cops were after you for something you did) ? Would you eventually get a court notice in the mail or just never know abuot it if cops didnt try to come find you ?

ChemicalSmiles
10-03-2010, 00:14
They don't do it at every stop, but they almost always do. Some police will look it up, and won't tell you that they saw the warrant, if it's marked as non-extraditable or out of state or whatever factors show up on their computer screen, because that means they aren't authorized to actually arrest you for the warrant from so far away.

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jake99
10-03-2010, 02:06
SO chances are if you are pulled over for speeding and have a warrant most likely you are getting arrested (assuming it is in the state the warrant is for )
??

undead
10-03-2010, 02:52
It shows up but they don't necessarily say anything. I had an out of state warrant for many years; some cops handcuffed me and threw me in the cruiser until they heard back from the county it was in, some asked me, "Did you know you had a felony warrant?", but didn't do anything about it when I said yes, and others didn't even MENTION it. It depends on the cop and the nature of the traffic stop, etc.

i would add that it also depends on the nature of the warrant. though i suppose that could be included under "etc."

i was once playing pool while having a couple drinks at a bar. all the while my car was parked in the parking lot. two cops walked in and approached myself and my friends, we had no idea why. apparently the cops were running checks on license plates of cars parked in that lot and came across mine. i had a warrant for failure to appear in court. as it turns out, it was communication breakdown from a case i was involved in where my lawyer told me that i was not required to go to court for the finalization of the case as it was solely to see if i had paid my fines, served my time, etc. apparently i WAS required to be in court. so i was plucked from this enjoyable social setting and spent the remainder of the night and all day the next day in jail.

moral of the story. you don't even have to SEE a cop. if you or anything identifying you are in a public domain and you have a warrant... you're at risk to serve your penalty for that risk.

is300ss
10-03-2010, 09:08
this

yeah but what about when you in your town? they must then

how about if your state? still depends on what it is and the cop?

thats cool about the out of state thing. especially on a felony warrant

ChemicalSmiles
10-03-2010, 09:12
Could you re-write that post, I didn't really understand it....

AChemicalLife
10-03-2010, 10:13
Police can look you up on a traffic stop, that happens all the time.

They punch in your license plate on their laptop, get owner's info, felonies, rap sheet, bada bing warrants right there baby.

so yes. they can...

sourcE: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=6759,6128839

(Lodi is a city near Sac, the capital in Calif... if you were wondering...)

jake99
10-03-2010, 15:27
so they have to put in your info to give ticket , right ?

AChemicalLife
11-03-2010, 07:30
next weekend, remind me to punch in some stuff on a cruiser and ill have photographic evidende (privacy ensured of course) of the answer to this question. Any volunteers with warrants? XD
My criminal charges show up, but as ongoing/pending so I don't get them mentioned much by traffic cops etc..

jake99
11-03-2010, 16:56
HOw are you gonna punch in the stuff ? if you call courts they can run your name and tell you if you have any warrants

Johnny1
11-03-2010, 19:30
remind me to punch in some stuff on a cruiser

It would be best not to run anyone's info but your own, I think. Otherwise, I can see a scandal brewing... ;)

Nice that you have a good relationship with law enforcement!

forgotten
11-03-2010, 20:10
It should be noted that NCIC data does not qualify as a public record and is strictly confidential.

AChemicalLife
12-03-2010, 00:40
HOw are you gonna punch in the stuff ? if you call courts they can run your name and tell you if you have any warrants

Don't you worry about that. I'm sure I can find somebody with warrants on teh g00g

jake99
12-03-2010, 05:26
lol not me

jam uh weezy
12-03-2010, 07:28
around here any encounter with the police involves a quick swiping of your id credit-card style that brings up anything they would want to know about you.

AChemicalLife
13-03-2010, 05:05
^ do you know if that card swipe just looks up your DMV records? Where are you? If you don't wanna say, rural or medium or large city etc?

jake99
13-03-2010, 06:49
Well how could they pull you over and run your license and it not check wanted criminals ?

SimplyOwnage
13-03-2010, 11:03
If you're walking in a neighborhood at 6PM on a weekday they can stop you and get your id and they WILL look for warrants.

[ACL NOTE]Mod note: You do not have to show your ID for walking down the street. You are not operating a motorized vehicle and have no obligation to stop for or even have a conversation with, much less show an officer your ID for "walking down the street"

jake99
14-03-2010, 07:13
walking in a neighborhood at 6PM on a weekday

WHAT ??!!!!

ChemicalSmiles
14-03-2010, 14:53
its happened to me my friend ^ ^

jewbyrd
14-03-2010, 19:14
The man can do all,don't doubt it or take a chance.

SimplyOwnage
15-03-2010, 08:36
walking in a neighborhood at 6PM on a weekday

WHAT ??!!!!

yeah, I know right, supposedly walking in the street in a subdivision is enough to get your id checked.

AChemicalLife
15-03-2010, 22:53
Didn't have any opportunity to run a check in the car this weekend.
Sorry!

AChemicalLife
21-03-2010, 03:04
Police in the USA (at least the ones I am connected to) can choose to run the following at any time (including a traffic stop):
-Driver's License Lookups
-Current Warrants
-Criminal History

It would have info such as past, current addresses, aliases, and also things such as PENDING CHARGES, but it depends which query is run.

The standard is just to run your driver's license and a warrant check. They might look at criminal history if they are doing an investigation and/or you do something suspicious.

Police may run all 3 queries, neither, or any combination thereof.

I believe I have answered this question, and if OP wants more info, please PM me.

dapperdave
02-04-2010, 18:30
on traffic stops what happens if you have a 'new identity' iwht diffrent name, dob etc ? Thre is no record of anything. do you just get a driving without license ticket? If you have alicense from some remote third workd countyr then what happens ?

AChemicalLife
17-04-2010, 00:53
on traffic stops what happens if you have a 'new identity' iwht diffrent name, dob etc ? Thre is no record of anything. do you just get a driving without license ticket? If you have alicense from some remote third workd countyr then what happens ?

Firstly, there are legal implications of having a "new identity", unless you're in some kind of witness protection. If you legally changed your name, it will be known and cross-linked to your original name. One cannot change their birthday.
If you have a license from another country, it's likely the police will call the station and ask what the rules are regarding that. Some countries (such as the UK) have very similar driving rules to that of the states, and you can still get a ticket if you drive badly. If you have one from "some remote third world country"[ed], you will probably get a ticket for driving without a license. If you have never had a license, you will probably get your car towed because you are not authorized to operate a motor vehicle in the USA.

SnailS1904
17-04-2010, 06:34
If you're walking in a neighborhood at 6PM on a weekday they can stop you and get your id and they WILL look for warrants.

[ACL NOTE]Mod note: You do not have to show your ID for walking down the street. You are not operating a motorized vehicle and have no obligation to stop for or even have a conversation with, much less show an officer your ID for "walking down the street"


just to clarify this, if im walking down the strip downtown, just walking, and an officer asks for my ID, i do not have to give it to them?

AChemicalLife
17-04-2010, 10:34
just to clarify this, if im walking down the strip downtown, just walking, and an officer asks for my ID, i do not have to give it to them?

You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car.

That's it. Refusing to show your license when not operating a motor vehicle is not illegal AFAIK, except in critical situations where it might somehow be necessary to identify people...You may be detained while your identity is verified, as I'm sure they can think of some bogus reason to hold you at the station for giving them a hard time.

But let's say I don't drive a car? But I'm also a shady looking character? Driving is a privilege not a right...etc etc., they can't make it mandatory to have a driver's license, which is what being required to hand it over on demand would imply...

But no, you don't have to.

Just say you lost it, or you don't have one, sorry. that's what you're walking down the strip, instead of rollin' down it in a Caddy.

Actually, check your state laws. Some states have vagrancy laws, but that's targeted more toward drifters and homeless, I think...
Some states may require that you identify yourself. But not produce ID. So, majority, no, unless you live in alaska, arkansas, or another odd state. Even so, they're just BS tickets from local small town police

Unbreakable
17-04-2010, 12:25
Around here the cops have couple cars with computers on top of their cars... that scan plates for stolen, warrant and such... and than find a reason to pull you over

AChemicalLife
18-04-2010, 01:25
Around here the cops have couple cars with computers on top of their cars... that scan plates for stolen, warrant and such... and than find a reason to pull you over

You mean like, they can physically "look at" the plates with the camera/computer? Without typing..?

Maybe I misunderstood...sounds crazy and i don't want to believe it yet..

Unbreakable
18-04-2010, 03:49
You mean like, they can physically "look at" the plates with the camera/computer? Without typing..?

Maybe I misunderstood...sounds crazy and i don't want to believe it yet..

Yes its this satellite looking think on top of the cop SUV's(around here at least) than they drive around and it scans the plate and give the cop info on the car registered driver.. and spits out info the cops would find Important " " and than they pull you over for some b/s traffic violation and you get locked up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENGY1CD9y_4

example from a system in Canada...

Methlehem
18-04-2010, 04:47
Rofl.

They don't run checks if you live in Mayberry. ;)

ChemicalSmiles
18-04-2010, 16:50
nice ^

Coolio
18-04-2010, 20:01
You mean like, they can physically "look at" the plates with the camera/computer? Without typing..?

Maybe I misunderstood...sounds crazy and i don't want to believe it yet..

Lots of cities have this now. Yes, a camera scans and recognizes license plates within a large viewing area, and automatically checks for warrants and such.

ChemicalSmiles
19-04-2010, 03:47
Definitely ^ ^

AChemicalLife
19-04-2010, 04:17
Lots of cities have this now. Yes, a camera scans and recognizes license plates within a large viewing area, and automatically checks for warrants and such.

wow, that's pretty crazy and i suppose the yay area is not gonna be the first to adopt such 1984-esque technologies...

The notion that that exists scares me...(Not because I don't believe it, it's really not that hard to make something like that, but because it's acceptable and legal to use...How come wide-band IP/port sniffing is illegal but wide-band police-take-you-to-jail crime sniffer is not? I might have to start a separate thread on this device and the legality of it...or illegality for that matter.

Thanks for the responses guys

severely etarded
20-04-2010, 01:01
Here in Texas they can stop you anywhere in public (yes even standing in your front yard) and ask for ID. If you don't have ID they can detain you and take you to the station for fingerprints if they want to be assholes. In south padre island they have an ordinance where they fine you for not having one. They use these laws mainly against illegal aliens.

Unbreakable
20-04-2010, 03:14
Where are your papers boy!
damn didn't know that shit happens;
it will only be due time till they use it on us
for our "Safety" of course , they think we all fools...

AChemicalLife
22-04-2010, 05:25
Here in Texas they can stop you anywhere in public (yes even standing in your front yard) and ask for ID. If you don't have ID they can detain you and take you to the station for fingerprints if they want to be assholes. In south padre island they have an ordinance where they fine you for not having one. They use these laws mainly against illegal aliens.

Yea...vagrancy laws, right?


Where are your papers boy!
damn didn't know that shit happens;
it will only be due time till they use it on us
for our "Safety" of course , they think we all fools...

:! = Hahaha...quick, stockpile all the aluminum, we're going underground...