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xhead406
07-03-2010, 22:37
Okay, ths sucks and I know it happens to other people that on amphetamines guy ant get up. Doesn't it have something to do with blood pressure? Anyways, I am always with girls usually when I roll or am on adderall or something but in case me and somebody did something, would there be anyway to possibly get up? Because it would be VERY embarrasing to be about to fuck a hot chick and then you cant get up. Know what you can do? this happen to you? what cause this? thanks

pallidamors
07-03-2010, 22:43
I think it has to do with vasoconstriction and those capillaries closing up a little...less bloodflow to the happy pillar means temporary impotence. I have no idea how you could reverse this...maybe a vasodilator but I have no idea if its safe to mix the two.

tinmachine
07-03-2010, 23:53
Take L-Arginin.. Free base Arginin oder Arginin HCL. 2-3g over the day. The combo is no problem.

daddysgone
08-03-2010, 00:00
The obvious fix would be to take viagra or something similar if you wish to get an erection while on amphetamines. However, I CANNOT SAY IF THIS IS SAFE!!!

Do some research and talk to your doctor. This may be a safe combo, but I could also see how it could be extremely unsafe and worst case scenario, might induce a stroke. So check with a doc before even considering this.

Other advice would be take your stims earlier in the day so that by the end of the night it will have worn off for the most part, making attaining an erection easier.-DG

tinmachine
08-03-2010, 00:09
The obvious fix would be to take viagra or something similar if you wish to get an erection while on amphetamines. However, I CANNOT SAY IF THIS IS SAFE!!!

Viagra or other PDE5 Blockers aren`t safe. The risk is very high. Better use Arginin or Ornithin, well known aminoacids

Sahand
08-03-2010, 05:14
Its just tougher to get it up for me. Its impossible to fuckin cum, but i managed.

Captain.Heroin
08-03-2010, 05:17
Try taking less, or waiting until you come down to have sex.

If you are annoyed by how long amphetamine lasts, try the IR version. If the IR version lasts more than 3-4 hours, then my original point: try taking less.

LSDMDMA&AMP
08-03-2010, 05:19
be careful.ive cut my dick on speed (accidentally) before a few times. It HUUUUUUUURRRRTSSS

Captain.Heroin
08-03-2010, 05:22
be careful.ive cut my dick on speed (accidentally) before a few times. It HUUUUUUUURRRRTSSS

How did that happen, if you don't mind me asking???

low-dosejunky
08-03-2010, 05:41
I have heard that citrus-y drinks combined with amphetamines causes this. Try eliminating any from your diet when you know it's going to happen soon.

I had an unfortunate, very very unfortunate incident one time due to either this, or to large of a dose. Not only wouldn't it get up, but it had shrank! Temporarily of course. Few days later I was back to normal.

As for finishing, I can rarely finish on bupe/diazepam (clonaz.. when I'm out). It's a good thing my Lady and I are quite kinky, and are into all sorts of wild **** like chastity and other D/s games.

xhead406
10-03-2010, 02:36
yea the prblem is i have no access to any viagra or any of that other stuff so thats not really an option :/

dwright
10-03-2010, 04:16
bros its the only problem with speed same with crystal its like the same high just intensified but you know drink some beers and i guarantee you will fuck like a champ i made a porno after smoking a couple twentys of crystal and then beer bonging four beers and taking four shots of vodka i made a porno with my girlfriend she loved it, im sure yours will too if u follow that advice

Breathe
10-03-2010, 04:17
In my experience with Adderall, my libido was all over the place, a rollercoaster of sorts.. I could never pinpoint any combination of foods/drinks or whatever that would eventually raise nor lower my ability to get an erecticon. Anything with Vitamin C (in ascorbic acid form I guess) definitely caused some noticeable differences - it felt weaker, and I often got a foggy head/headachey feeling afterwards, if done with Vitamin C. I also noticed that if the liquid I used to wash down the pill was acidic in any way, it would take much longer to hit. If only water was used, and on an empty stomach, it would hit in a few minutes. But there was no single thing I could figure out that made my sexual ability go up or down, pun intended. I must admit - even during times where it was up, it still didn't feel normal. It felt kind of like the way it feels when drunk - a sort of numbness..but not in the sense of a lack of blood, but more like dulled nerve endings..

Search the internet for tips other people offer each other, to help this problem. I'm sure there is some kind of supplement, or combination of vitamins or something that could help reverse the effects of........

Amphetamines: The Libido Mosquito!

Here's some interesting feedback by people here on BL:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-199838.html

leftwing
10-03-2010, 05:20
Viagra or other PDE5 Blockers aren`t safe. The risk is very high. Better use Arginin or Ornithin, well known aminoacids

thankyou for pointing that out:)

generally viagra and uppers/stimulants aren't a very safe combo to take.


bros its the only problem with speed same with crystal its like the same high just intensified but you know drink some beers and i guarantee you will fuck like a champ i made a porno after smoking a couple twentys of crystal and then beer bonging four beers and taking four shots of vodka i made a porno with my girlfriend she loved it, im sure yours will too if u follow that advice

link please?

DynoSpec
10-03-2010, 05:24
maybe even natural aphrodisiacs, oysters and the such.

and lol, that must be one long porn

Shambles
10-03-2010, 11:32
I think it has to do with vasoconstriction and those capillaries closing up a little...less bloodflow to the happy pillar means temporary impotence. I have no idea how you could reverse this...maybe a vasodilator but I have no idea if its safe to mix the two.

Generally a bad idea to combine vadodilators and constrictors, I believe. Folks have been hospitalised combining vasodilators - including L-Arginine, despite the above post - with mephedrone (notorious for its vasoconstriction properties... and its "fuck like a pornstar (or wish you could)" properties). Related reading - Combating Severe Vasoconstriction encountered with Stims (Mainly Meph) (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=463624&highlight=vasodilator)


be careful.ive cut my dick on speed (accidentally) before a few times. It HUUUUUUUURRRRTSSS

I once snapped me banjo-string in similar circumstance. Fuckin' ow :!

DynoSpec
10-03-2010, 11:37
i caught in a zipper like 9 years ago... bruised up and couldnt fuck or masturbate for like 3 weeks , definitely the worst injury ever

scoxx
10-03-2010, 18:55
This shouldnt really be embarrassing...stuggling to get/stay hard is generally a given for most men I've been with on amphetamines...so if the women you're with are familar with drugs they will probably expect this! Dosage is definately the key though...just take it easy and you should be able to get hard (although probably not a chance in hell you'll come!).

I seem to find with guys I've been with, if they can't get hard while they're high they seem to get ridiculously, unrelentlessly hard for ages on the comedown - so just make up for it later!

Or, have some cocaine instead.. I have a pretty high sex drive...but guys on coke is just insane! Definately a better sex/drugs combo than speed in my opinion. Some drugs just arent designed with sex in mind (like acid...sex is just disturbing and weird on acid!)

xhead406
11-03-2010, 02:16
Some drugs just arent designed with sex in mind (like acid...sex is just disturbing and weird on acid!)

Yea i kno but this sucks because ecstasy would be the PERFECT drug to fuck on.damn, fml

Captain.Heroin
11-03-2010, 02:49
Some drugs just arent designed with sex in mind (like acid...sex is just disturbing and weird on acid!)

I disagree wholeheartedly. LSD + sex (or any other psychedelic) = WIN.

TheMaskedChemist
11-03-2010, 05:10
I have the exact same problem with pretty much any stimulant i've tried so far.

Usually I won't have any problem in getting and maintaining an erection for as long as necessary, but when I take some coke, amphetamines, mephedrone, etc. there is a "point of no return", meaning my dick will just play dead for a while (even hours, depending on the dose and drug) and then will slowly go back to normal. Taking less than the critical dose, I'm able to have an erection. It might not be as easy as when sober, but once achieved it lasts forever.

It really sucks because I've had that problem in several occasions in which I had been lucky with some chick. My only advice is to take some diazepam (to partially reverse vasoconstriction) and use your tongue for as long as it takes.

PS: I've been diagnosed with mild hypertension. It probably contributes somehow. Maybe you should check yours, too.

LSDMDMA&AMP
11-03-2010, 06:41
whacking it too hard, captain smack.

Captain.Heroin
11-03-2010, 07:11
whacking it too hard, captain smack.

:\

Get some lube next time! The exchange I go to hands it out.

Cloudburst
11-03-2010, 07:43
There can be an increase or decrease of sexual interest on speed. I jack on speed personally, effects would be delayed orgasm and longer length of masturbation. I've heard around the grapevine that ladies love the fact you can last longer. Have you had a full blown sexual experience on speed yet? The overflow of the stimuli there might help you get it up, maybe not fully hard, but enough to last and make her enjoy her time in bed. ;) I tend to hear more good things about amphetamine sex than bad.

There is also taking into the fact that you just haven't had enough experience (not that I condone overuse here!) to explore all the ranges your libido can go through. Or you're just naturally impotent on it somehow, wouldn't have any proof to back up the validity of that theory though.

If not, what I've done every time I've taken speed (consistently) was take daily multivitamins. I have no idea if this is a factor in my arousal abilities but hey, who says a daily dose of vitamins can't hurt?

Careful with long-term dick shrinkage though.

splenda
11-03-2010, 10:06
L-Arginine is known to be very useful in treating 'speed dick' and is overthecounter in most places since it is an amino acid supplement. Much 'safer' than Viagra with a psychostimulant, although there are still some inherent risks with taking L-Arginine, a vasodilator, with a psychostimulant (which is a vasoconstrictor, as mentioned above.) Be careful and take it slow either way.

Psychostimulants, namely amphetamines, are notorious for increasing sexual drive quite high. There have been many anecdotal reports of couples on amphetamines having sex for days on end (literally), only pausing their sexual interactions to use the bathroom. On the contrary, lots of people, especially men, masturbate for hours upon hours (some days upon days), strung out on amphetamines watching porno because of amphetamines' ability to keep one's sexual interest high and its ability to inhibit the final 'orgasm'/semen production/etc.

Psychostimulants and sex is quite a weird topic to be honest... lots of (meth)amphetamine addicts tend to use (meth)amphetamine for its sexual (side)effects as described above. Note that places frequented by (meth)amphetamine addicts (such as bars, shops, motels, etc.) tend to have lots of sexually-enticing material (porno, etc.) in its environment. lulz

pallidamors
11-03-2010, 10:22
Generally a bad idea to combine vadodilators and constrictors, I believe. Folks have been hospitalised combining vasodilators - including L-Arginine, despite the above post - with mephedrone (notorious for its vasoconstriction properties... and its "fuck like a pornstar (or wish you could)" properties). Related reading - Combating Severe Vasoconstriction encountered with Stims (Mainly Meph) (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=463624&highlight=vasodilator)



I once snapped me banjo-string in similar circumstance. Fuckin' ow :!

yeah...i mean vasodilators came to mind just because theyre sometimes used to combat panic attacks, but i also remembered reading something that said they weren't safe to use to treat coke/amphetamine overdoses, so mixing the two is probably a no-no.

xxl
11-03-2010, 11:25
Only Viagra (or one of the analogues) can help, but it will do so only for a limited time (a few hours), after which nothing can be done any more.

P.S. I'm sure some posters will now chip in with the bullshit that Viagra is dangerous on stims.

Shambles
11-03-2010, 11:44
Viagra is potentially dangerous on stims. Doesn't mean everyone who combines them will have any problems but some will. Cos it's dangerous. Both put a lot of strain on the heart plus you're combining a dilator with a constrictor. Which is dangerous.

Makes me feel very uncomfortable when I've combined them so I don't find it helps that much anyway. I know some folks find it useful and notice no problems... but it's still dangerous.

scoxx
11-03-2010, 12:28
I disagree wholeheartedly. LSD + sex (or any other psychedelic) = WIN.

Yeah I have heard other people say this but can never figure it out!...think it's a love or hate thing. For me I just get far too distracted. I think any kind of physical contact feels a bit bizarre on psychs (kissing especially)...I kind of get that 'not sure where my body starts and theres begins feeling'. However, I think lsd can emotionally bring you really close to someone. But sex drive nonexistent!

rolleey
11-03-2010, 12:45
lol it's not that embarassing, just laugh it away and find a good excuse... personally I had the same problems with several drugs, and it has to do with the blood flow, I dunno for sure but amphetamines I think they kinda form small things in your blood that cramp up the veins and bloodflow is not as good as usual

phatass
11-03-2010, 13:06
for me it takes quite a long time for me to be able to cum after taking amps... but whe you're peaking it's pretty much impossible... try timing it different, or get some viagra

poppyplanet
11-03-2010, 14:31
Opiates always make me unable or make it very difficult to cum. It's good for the girl, but sucks for me. :/

Shambles
11-03-2010, 14:42
... it has to do with the blood flow, I dunno for sure but amphetamines I think they kinda form small things in your blood that cramp up the veins and bloodflow is not as good as usual

It does have to do with blood flow but amphetamines definitely don't form "small things" in your blood - they cause vasoconstriction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasoconstriction).

xxl
17-03-2010, 11:15
Both put a lot of strain on the heart plus you're combining a dilator with a constrictor.But how much of a vasodilator is Viagra on part of the body away from the genitals and the nose? Not a big vasodilator. A big vasodilator (like phentolamine) would trigger an immediate and scary tachychardia. Most importantly, the small vasodilation caused by Viagra will cause a small decrease in blood pressure, which should diminish the risk of a hypertensive stroke. I think at the very least it's a tie between both effects, one offsetting the other in terms of risk.

By the way, Viagra is also OK with magic mushrooms, so I guess it should be OK with LSD. Whether you can have sex on these psychs without laughing all the time is another matter.

leftwing
17-03-2010, 11:47
yeah...i mean vasodilators came to mind just because theyre sometimes used to combat panic attacks, but i also remembered reading something that said they weren't safe to use to treat coke/amphetamine overdoses, so mixing the two is probably a no-no.
copy/pasta from another post i made

yeah, you want to avoid taking beta blockers if youre having an amphetamine, cocaine or other alpha adrenergic stimulant overdose - it will only increase hypertension


Beta blockers must not be used in the treatment of cocaine, amphetamine, or other alpha adrenergic stimulant overdose. The blockade of only beta receptors increases hypertension, reduces coronary blood flow, left ventricular function, and cardiac output and tissue perfusion by means of leaving the alpha adrenergic system stimulation unopposed. [14] The appropriate antihypertensive drugs to administer during hypertensive crisis resulting from stimulant abuse are vasodilators like nitroglycerin, diuretics like furosemide and alpha blockers like phentolamine.

xxl
17-03-2010, 16:18
Quote: "Beta blockers must not be used in the treatment of cocaine, amphetamine, or other alpha adrenergic stimulant overdose. The blockade of only beta receptors increases hypertension, reduces coronary blood flow, left ventricular function, and cardiac output and tissue perfusion by means of leaving the alpha adrenergic system stimulation unopposed. [14] The appropriate antihypertensive drugs to administer during hypertensive crisis resulting from stimulant abuse are vasodilators like nitroglycerin, diuretics like furosemide and alpha blockers like phentolamine."

Wouldn't this quotation indirectly support the use of Viagra since Viagra is a no-no together with nitroglycerin (because Viagra and nitroglycerin synergize)? However, regarding phentolamine, I warn people not to use it while on coke. I had the scariest tachychardia of my life when I took an erection-enhancer containing phentolamine while doing crack. The drug was called "Vasoviril" in Brazil where I was (in the US "Vasomax", FDA approval refused). I thought Vasoviril would work smoothly just like Viagra. I was wrong. This goes to show that coke-induced hypertension is very difficult to control in a safe way. Even the recommended hypotensive (phentolamine) is risky.

Here's the egregious Vasoviril. On the packaging you can just read "Mesilato de Fentolamina" (phentolamine mesilate):
http://www.drogariaminasbrasil.com.br/Imagens/produtos/46/4446_0_Ampliacao1.jpg

tranquill
17-03-2010, 16:39
i'd bet on viagra (http://rxgeneralpharmacy.com/item.php?id=188) 'couse it WILL WORK11.
though yep, it needs certain carefulness

Roger&Me
20-03-2010, 20:57
If you can't get it up, it means your dose is too high.

SackFromTheBack
21-03-2010, 04:54
nobody likes adderall wiener.. just gonna have to live with it

xhead406
26-03-2010, 05:25
Alright yeah im gonna have to try l-arginine. But where would I get it? is it in any foods? I figued it was in a regualr multi-vitamin but its not

tinmachine
26-03-2010, 19:46
Alright yeah im gonna have to try l-arginine. But where would I get it? is it in any foods? I figued it was in a regualr multi-vitamin but its not

It`s available at any pharmacys or good drug stores. Arginin is an amino acid used by bodybuilders or runners, too. It`s available as free base, HCL or AKG. I prefer the free base.
It works only if taken regular! 2-3 g daily.

xhead406
29-03-2010, 03:45
alright well how many mgs of it should i take?

tinmachine
29-03-2010, 04:20
alright well how many mgs of it should i take?

I take 2-3g . 4 times 750mg

xhead406
29-03-2010, 06:57
alright cool im gonna try that next time

vvViolet
02-06-2010, 04:35
i have an RX for Adderall and have frequently mixed various doses of it with every PDE5 inhibitor. first off, according to both my GP and Psychiatrist, there is no contradiction between the two. to boot, the only shitty feeling i've ever had while mixing the two is when i realize i've taken too much Adderall for the PDE5 to stand a chance. lastly, if i am a little AMP'd up and require a little pharmaceutical assistance, i've noticed that Levitra works better than Cialis and Viagra even though it doesn't do shit for me normally. go figure.

TheZombieKing
02-06-2010, 06:39
It's called "Crystal Dick". When you take amphetamines, such as adderall or meth, your circulatory system is affected, which will constrict capillaries, including those in the penis, making it difficult for men to achieve erection.

As far as mixing amphetamines with viagra with the intention to "cure" your crystal dick I think is not very wise. Here's why:

Amphetamines can cause a decreased ability to reach and sustain erection because it constricts capillaries, therefore, constricting blood flow to the penis (like when your fingers or toes feel cold or kinda tingly after taking amphetamines). Amphetamines also increase blood pressure and heart rate. Viagra works by dilating the capillaries and therefore, allowing for increased blood flow to the penis.
The danger herein, is with the possibility of priapism. Priapism is an erection sustained for a period greater than 4 hours. Afterwords, the ability to achieve erection becomes exceedingly difficult or impossible.

Long story short, if you want to get hard and have sex, temporarily abstain from amphetamines (or at the very least, don't take so much that you can't naturally achieve erection) and definitely don't mix the amphetamines you've already taken with something like Viagra unless you want to risk losing your dick.

fm1983
02-06-2010, 06:43
Yeah I have heard other people say this but can never figure it out!...think it's a love or hate thing. For me I just get far too distracted. I think any kind of physical contact feels a bit bizarre on psychs (kissing especially)...I kind of get that 'not sure where my body starts and theres begins feeling'. However, I think lsd can emotionally bring you really close to someone. But sex drive nonexistent!

I only tried having sex on LSD once; and it was on a water bed. I was melting into the bed and I had no idea what was going on or where my body began or ended. (If you ever get the chance, lay on a waterbed when tripping, you truly are melting) Needless to say, the act was never completed, we just ended up with about 15 opened & un-used condoms all over the floor at the end of the night.

Psychonauticunt
02-06-2010, 07:42
Lower your dose - I've always noticed some shriveling, but it's only really been to a large extent when I've been really fucking amped, or then it's been tiny flaccid but has grown to fairly normal size in erection. Being with someone you're committed to helps, since there's no huge embarrassment/"first time it's happened, I swear!" or any of that, and you can try again as many times as you want. You should probably also be more comfortable with such a person. But then again, these chicks should know that speed does this to men.

Also, if you're with your significant other you can leave out the condoms - I stand no chance whatsoever of reaching orgasm with a rubber on while on speed or rolling, but without one it just takes a while longer.

LonE1
02-06-2010, 07:45
Just do a little forplay and making out and you should be able to get it up.

Its worked for me, but sometimes takes alot of work on strong beans or adderall.

Just dont expect to cum.....

Eight0Eight
02-06-2010, 11:35
I disagree wholeheartedly. LSD + sex (or any other psychedelic) = WIN.

Are you fucking mad?!

The last time I tried to fuck on acid I completely wigged out, then almost vomited.

I reckon smack is the best drug for sex - you can go for hours..