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Xan_Bar_Man
08-12-2009, 07:31
Tomorrow when i wake up im eating these 2 acetaminophen hydrocodone and taking 3 butalbital. ive heard it was a nice combo. leave some info ill be back tomorrow evening to talk about it

blau1005
08-12-2009, 15:44
Hydrocodone isn't codeine...

Xan_Bar_Man
08-12-2009, 22:38
sorry meant to say hydrocodone in the heading, anyway, was quite a pleasant buzz. When to school, felt great was talking to everyone very friendly like. then around 4 hours later it started to fade :( so i crashed. good experience noit worth the APAP imo but wasnt that bad.

Pillthrill
09-12-2009, 01:16
I've been known to take about 6 at a time. It's interesting. If you like it, you might like Tramadol. The combo of the caffeine and the codeine and barbs in the mixture I find to be a less pleasing but similar high. But it lasts about 8 hours and coming off it has never been any trouble. And Tramadol isn't regulated.

swpk
12-12-2009, 11:53
I have easy access to a medication under the name of Fiorinal, containing 50mg Butalbitol, 325mg Asprin :/ 40mg Caffeine, and 30mg codeine.

Being a tall guy, 220lbs+ (99.8Kg) and having a small tolerance, I usually dose around 6 of them to get a good high.

The butalbitol gives a good numb feeling, especially in the face, and the codeine gives a lovely opiate buzz.

I've even ventured to take as high as 12 of these capsules before - VERY numb and high, but still functional.

Duration: Opiate high wears off around 5 hours, but the butalbitol seems to keep me numb/high for at least 8 hours.

Cloud_9
12-12-2009, 21:01
As far as I am concerned Butalbital is pretty damn unpleasurable. Unless your idea of a great time is having all the physical effects of being drunk without the mental inebriation. :\

tiahooker
06-01-2010, 04:57
would anyone ever snort butalbital????? i have a capsule called zebutal used for like migraines or something.... and i would like to know would it be better just to release the powder and sniff or does it really matter? would it hurt to try or just swallow??/ im still on would like an answer..

tiahooker
06-01-2010, 04:58
:o i just posted somethin g... i new to this ... trying to see what the advanced post means.. =)

SteeleyJ
06-01-2010, 06:15
When i first read this i thought you were talking about Fioricet w/ codeine.

I don't see why this is a particularly bad idea, it'd be a hydrocodone buzz with a little extra sedation and some caffiene. Normal Fioricet, the one without the codeine, has Butalbital 50mg ( a barbiturate ), acetaminophen 325mg, and caffiene 40mg.

Things to be cautious of with this combo - Since butabital is a barbiturate, it's a CNS depressant. To what degree i'm not exactly sure ( it didn't seem very strong, but thats subjective because i have a tolerance to downers ), but since it's a babiturate i would be careful. Barbiturates are notorious for being dangerous in combination with other CNS depressants.

Also, watch your acetaminophen intake. The hydrocodone has apap in it and so does the Fiorcet, be careful not to exceed 4 grams ( 4000mg ) of apap.

Robtuse
24-01-2011, 20:52
^ 4 grams total in 24 hours, right?

What is the threshold per dose? Around a gram?

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
24-01-2011, 20:56
would anyone ever snort butalbital????? i have a capsule called zebutal used for like migraines or something.... and i would like to know would it be better just to release the powder and sniff or does it really matter? would it hurt to try or just swallow??/ im still on would like an answer..

You'd be consuming acetaminophen and caffeine.

StaySedated
24-01-2011, 21:03
barbs and opiates is nice.

Psychedelic Jay
25-01-2011, 05:18
As far as I am concerned Butalbital is pretty damn unpleasurable. Unless your idea of a great time is having all the physical effects of being drunk without the mental inebriation. :\

That sounds like some real fun...

Robtuse
26-01-2011, 10:23
Yeah, its unfortunate that some don't get positive effects from the weaker, more readily available (in my case anyway) substances. Although, once you step up to the big boys these are pretty much useless - except maybe as potentiators. I'll count myself as lucky :) ...until I develop a tolerance, that is.

Psychedelic Jay
26-01-2011, 21:05
Yeah, its unfortunate that some don't get positive effects from the weaker, more readily available (in my case anyway) substances. Although, once you step up to the big boys these are pretty much useless - except maybe as potentiators. I'll count myself as lucky :) ...until I develop a tolerance, that is.

I think that is how the OP is using them in the first place...

NeighborhoodThreat
26-01-2011, 21:09
Don't waste your time snorting them, theres lots of APAP in there as well as caffeine, as K'ed out said.

Fioricet with Codeine is a nice buzz, if you get the version without caffeine its even better.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 21:14
Yeah, its unfortunate that some don't get positive effects from the weaker, more readily available (in my case anyway) substances. Although, once you step up to the big boys these are pretty much useless - except maybe as potentiators. I'll count myself as lucky :) ...until I develop a tolerance, that is.

Butalbital is nice to increase the effects of opiates. Its also nice to combine with benzodiazepines for a great release of GABA but you got to be careful, make sure you've got a tolerance because even though Butalbital is weaker than say Secobarbital, it still IS a barbiturate

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:14
Don't waste your time snorting them, theres lots of APAP in there as well as caffeine, as K'ed out said.

Fioricet with Codeine is a nice buzz, if you get the version without caffeine its even better.

i'd think the formulation without caffeine would be a nice "little helper". ;)

what would awesome is a pill with oxymorphone(or oxycodone) and secobarbital instead of codeine and butalbital. :D

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:17
Butalbital is nice to increase the effects of opiates. Its also nice to combine with benzodiazepines for a great release of GABA but you got to be careful, make sure you've got a tolerance because even though Butalbital is weaker than say Secobarbital, it still IS a barbiturate

barbs + benzos = getting thrown out of a bar or club because you're getting in fights or coming on to every chick in the place or you took your pants off or you simply passed out.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 21:17
i'd think the formulation without caffeine would be a nice "little helper". ;)

what would awesome is a pill with oxymorphone(or oxycodone) and secobarbital instead of codeine and butalbital. :D

You mean Fioribarb oxymorphone formulation? I've got 5 left.

Psychedelic Jay
26-01-2011, 21:20
Butalbital is nice to increase the effects of opiates. Its also nice to combine with benzodiazepines for a great release of GABA but you got to be careful, make sure you've got a tolerance because even though Butalbital is weaker than say Secobarbital, it still IS a barbiturate

Even still this is a rash overstatement.


Butalbital is so weak, you have to take 20+ pills to overdose on it and any of the other substances in the Fiorcets alone...

Less if you have excretion problems. Even a little less if you have metabolism problems.

But this is in the gram and up category. You will likely pass out before you can hit a lethal dose, unless you randomly decide to pop 25 pills all at once. (God Forbid)

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:23
You mean Fioribarb oxymorphone formulation? I've got 5 left.

wait what?...

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 21:25
wait what?...

Never heard of them. 100mg Secobarbital with 20mg Oxymorphone

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:28
Even still this is a rash overstatement.


Butalbital is so weak, you have to take 20+ pills to overdose on it and any of the other substances in the Fiorcets alone...

Less if you have excretion problems. Even a little less if you have metabolism problems.

But this is in the gram and up category. You will likely pass out before you can hit a lethal dose, unless you randomly decide to pop 25 pills all at once. (God Forbid)

butalbital being a barbiturate is still pretty dangerous, they're not as dangerous as reds or yellow jackets but i'm sure it would take less 25 or 20 pills to kill you.

*although if you're pretty tolerant i guess you could take huge amounts, Sid Vicious from The Sex Pistols once took over 30 Tuinals and survived(although he woke up on the floor with his girlfriend stabbed to death and no memory).

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:30
Never heard of them. 100mg Secobarbital with 20mg Oxymorphone

that sounds like something straight out of heaven...

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 21:32
butalbital being a barbiturate is still pretty dangerous, they're not as dangerous as reds or yellow jackets but i'm sure it would take less 25 or 20 pills to kill you.

*although if you're pretty tolerant i guess you could take huge amounts, Sid Vicious from The Sex Pistols once took over 30 Tuinals and survived(although he woke up on the floor with his girlfriend stabbed to death and no memory).

How the fuck do you take 30 Tuinal and survive??? That's crazy. 10-15 is enough to kill

Psychedelic Jay
26-01-2011, 21:35
butalbital being a barbiturate is still pretty dangerous, they're not as dangerous as reds or yellow jackets but i'm sure it would take less 25 or 20 pills to kill you.

*although if you're pretty tolerant i guess you could take huge amounts, Sid Vicious from The Sex Pistols once took over 30 Tuinals and survived(although he woke up on the floor with his girlfriend stabbed to death and no memory).

It's listed clearly on the Fiorcet PDR...

Tuinals are way stronger....

It's still blown way out of proportion...

I'm sorry, there is just no way to compare the two...

It's like codeine being compared to fentanyl... It's crazy...

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:37
How the fuck do you take 30 Tuinal and survive??? That's crazy. 10-15 is enough to kill

how do you take over 30 Tunials and survive?

only Sid Vicious could tell you and he OD'ed on smack in the 80's.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 21:39
It's listed clearly on the Fiorcet PDR...

Tuinals are way stronger....

It's still blown way out of proportion...

I'm sorry, there is just no way to compare the two...

It's like codeine being compared to fentanyl... It's crazy...

I don't think he was really comparing them but saying that they both have a high chance to overdose from. I mean a close LD50 range.

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:40
It's listed clearly on the Fiorcet PDR...

Tuinals are way stronger....

It's still blown way out of proportion...

I'm sorry, there is just no way to compare the two...

It's like codeine being compared to fentanyl... It's crazy...

well of course Tuinal is stronger than butalbital, it is a mix of two potent barbs.

but still butalbital(or any other barb) could easily kill you if you're not careful, thats like rule #1 of recreational barbiturate use.

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 21:42
I don't think he was really comparing them but saying that they both have a high chance to overdose from. I mean a close LD50 range.

^this

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 21:46
Some people like poison...some people like tea
Some people like toxics, some people like me
Some people inject it, shoot it up in their arm
Some people they got the track marks, they don't want to feel harm
Yeaaaaah, some people like poison, some people like poison...people like meeeee -Rancid

Psychedelic Jay
26-01-2011, 21:50
well of course Tuinal is stronger than butalbital, it is a mix of two potent barbs.

but still butalbital(or any other barb) could easily kill you if you're not careful, that's like rule #1 of recreational barbiturate use.

It would be painful and shear uncomfortable effects from the other two substances to pop anywhere near an OD on Fiorcets alone... It's just not something big time druggies want to use... (Or, for the most part, ever use...)

Plus, the more you take, the less enjoyable it is...


The chance to OD on Fiorcets is ridiculously low...

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 21:52
It would be painful and shear uncomfortable effects from the other two substances to pop anywhere near an OD on Fiorcets alone... It's just not something big time druggies want to use... (Or, for the most part, ever use...)

Plus, the more you take, the less enjoyable it is...

That's because of the caffeine content. Taking more pure Butalbital is enjoyable...I would imagine.

Psychedelic Jay
26-01-2011, 22:04
That's because of the caffeine content. Taking more pure Butalbital is enjoyable...I would imagine.

That formulation is just a rare as Seconal and Nembutal with us here in the U.S. bro...

Anything besides slow and low Phenobarbital is just out of reach for the average Joe...

You see what I'm saying, man?

Even then, you would still have to take massive amounts of pills, as they still only come in 50 mg doses... And its weakness makes it just that much safer as a Barbiturate...

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
26-01-2011, 22:08
That formulation is just a rare as Seconal and Nembutal with us here in the U.S. bro...

Anything besides slow and low Phenobarbital is just out of reach for the average Joe...

You see what I'm saying, man?

Even then, you would still have to take massive amounts of pills, as they still only come in 50 mg doses...

I can find Phenobarbital anywhere but pure fast acting barbs are impossible. Still can't find Seconal anywhere, I loved that shit. 2 or 3 would do it for me, very nicely. Damnit, I would love to black out from some nembutal, seconal, tuinal...

StaySedated
26-01-2011, 22:10
That formulation is just a rare as Seconal and Nembutal with us here in the U.S. bro...

Anything besides slow and low Phenobarbital is just out of reach for the average Joe...

You see what I'm saying, man?

Even then, you would still have to take massive amounts of pills, as they still only come in 50 mg doses... And its weakness makes it just that much safer as a Barbiturate...

even though i can still get reds(illegally), i miss the days when i was Rx'ed Seconal and Nembutal(i was 16 and was given them to me for insomnia).

phenobarbital and butalbital just don't measure up to the king barbs... :|

Psychedelic Jay
26-01-2011, 22:50
even though i can still get reds(illegally), i miss the days when i was Rx'ed Seconal and Nembutal(i was 16 and was given them to me for insomnia).

phenobarbital and butalbital just don't measure up to the king barbs... :|

I like Phenobarbital. Not for recreation, but more for anxiety.

Although, I do like to be sluggish for long periods of time, then a little extra comes into play.

Robtuse
27-01-2011, 09:06
^ Yes, yes it does... K'd out where do you live? :D


oops, was replying to this...

Originally Posted by K'd-OUT-in-AZ
Never heard of them. 100mg Secobarbital with 20mg Oxymorphone

Originally Posted by StaySedated
that sounds like something straight out of heaven...

jstudly07
17-02-2012, 02:12
I have Fiorinal packaged by generic Lanett in split capsul form and I just pop open the capsul for a more rapid absorbtion and onset.

Tripman
17-02-2012, 02:15
Old and unnecessarily bumped thread.

If you have a question about Fiorinal please feel free to start a new thread.

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