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US To Pay Millions To Afghan Poppy Farmers

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The U.S. and British governments plan to spend millions of dollars over the next two months to try to persuade Afghan farmers not to plant opium poppy, by far the country's most profitable cash crop and a major source of Taliban funding and official corruption.

By selling wheat seeds and fruit saplings to farmers at token prices, offering cheap credit, and paying poppy-farm laborers to work on roads and irrigation ditches, U.S. and British officials hope to provide alternatives before the planting season begins in early October. Many poppy farmers survive Afghanistan's harsh winters on loans advanced by drug traffickers and their associates, repaid with the spring harvest.

"We need a way to get money in [farmers'] hands right away," said a senior U.S. military official in Afghanistan.

The program replaces the Bush administration's focus on crop eradication, which "wasted hundreds of millions of dollars," according to Richard C. Holbrooke, the Obama administration's special representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan. Destroying the crops succeeded only in "alienat[ing] poor farmers" and "driving people into the hands of the Taliban," he told reporters last week.

Poor track record
But many previous U.S.-funded crop-substitution programs have failed as well, from Asia to Latin America. A similar plan in Colombia, begun in the late 1990s, has barely made a dent in the level of cocaine production, although the country began to stabilize in recent years as its U.S.-trained military adopted new strategies against armed insurgents and civil institutions were strengthened.

Officials maintain that the new Afghan plan differs from unsuccessful "alternative" plans because it is an integral part of a military-development strategy that includes tens of thousands of U.S. troops to keep the Taliban and traffickers at bay while Afghan security forces are being trained. Plans call for hundreds of U.S. and international aid experts to work directly with farmers and local officials until the Afghan government has matured.

"The way [the assistance] is offered is important," said the senior U.S. military official, one of several who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the program on the record. "We are not providing subsidies . . . we are not just handing out cash." Farmers will have a "stake" in the program, he said, buying vouchers for seeds and fertilizers for about 10 percent of their value. Cash will be distributed only as credit or for work performed, the official added.

The United States and its allies in Afghanistan have long debated whether they should simply pay farmers for not planting poppy, a short-term fix that experts have deemed counterproductive. Farmers probably would take the money and "grow it anyways," said another U.S. official in Afghanistan. "We would likely drive the price up," he added, "as there would now be competition between the narcotics trade and the government. More farmers would therefore plant more poppy next year."

The epicenter of the overlapping wars against opium production and the Taliban is southern Afghanistan's Helmand province, where more than two-thirds of the country's poppy is grown. Thousands of Marines and British troops are in the midst of a major offensive there against entrenched insurgent forces and are providing security in villages as they are cleared.

"By this time next year," the senior military official said, "what we want to see is decreased poppy harvest. For us, that will be a metric of success. If we don't get conditions set now, in the next 60 days, we're not going to get the results we'd like."

The timeline is daunting. A planned "civilian surge" of hundreds of U.S. aid officials and agriculture experts has been slow to arrive. A micro-finance loan program is in the planning stages, and although $300 million in aid has been set aside for "rapid response" initiatives, including voucher programs for seeds and fertilizer, distribution has been sluggish. Mohammad Gulab Mangal, the governor of Helmand, whom U.S. officials have praised for encouraging local communities to turn away from poppy, held the first of eight scheduled outreach meetings only last week.

The plan also includes stepped-up efforts to interdict drug shipments and destroy stockpiles. The Drug Enforcement Administration expects to increase its manpower on the ground from 13 agents in 2008 to 81 by the end of this year. The Marine assault in Helmand, a DEA official in Kabul said, has "greatly enhanced" the agency's ability to take action there, he said.

The DEA is also training Afghan police in counternarcotics investigations, and the Justice Department is developing a program for Afghan prosecutors, although those efforts are said to be moving slowly. Officials disagree over how much of the profit from Afghanistan's opium exports goes directly into Taliban coffers. According to Holbrooke, most Taliban funding comes from wealthy individuals in the Persian Gulf region. But there is widespread agreement among U.S. officials that drug traffickers, warlords, corrupt government officials and insurgents work cooperatively to continue cultivation, processing and exports.

Some of the greatest challenges to the new strategy are at the level of farmhouse economics. More than 365,000 Afghan farm households earned about $730 million from poppy last year — a fraction of the $3.4 billion earned from opium exports, according to the United Nations, but an amount nearly equal to the national government's $750 million in official revenue.

"The average annual cash income of opium-poppy growing households in 2007 was 53 percent higher than those of non-opium poppy growing households," the U.N. 2008 Afghanistan Opium Survey reported, and "farmers in Helmand reported the highest cash income," 70 percent of which came from poppy.
****The average Helmand farmer cultivates less than an acre of land, with about half an acre planted in poppy yielding a gross income of about $2,000. After paying 45 percent of that in production costs, and 10 percent in local taxes, he nets about $900, more than twice what he would earn from wheat at current, albeit rising, prices.

Spring opium is harvested in May, after the plant flowers and seed capsules develop. The capsules are lanced and a latex-like opium gum oozes out and is gathered by hand. In Helmand, where production per acre is highest, capsules are lanced an average of four times in a labor-intensive process.

Extra workers travel from all over Afghanistan for the harvest, and the pay is higher than it is for virtually all other forms of unskilled labor. The average daily wage for construction work, the United Nations reported, is $3.60. Wheat harvesting earns $4.40, and opium "lancing/gum collection" pays $9.50. Wages in Helmand for lancing, $15 a day, are the highest in the country.

"What we're looking for is a way to compete with that," the senior military official said of the opium economy. "This is not easy. . . . There is no silver bullet."

Correspondent Pamela Constable in Kabul and staff writer Greg Jaffe contributed to this report.

MSNBC

08/08/2009

By Karen DeYoung


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32339723/ns/world_news-washington_post
 
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I don't see how this operation differs from similar past ones that were epic failures...
 
I don't see how this operation differs from similar past ones that were epic failures...

It allows our military to occupy Afghanistan for the year of 2009, and at least for the next few years. Because obviously if we can't do anything productive now, we can't do it for the next four years!

It isn't any different from the similar past ones that were epic failures. The availability of street heroin in essence proves this.

What the US doesn't realize is when drugs are illegal, that's where they pay the highest dollar for the commodity in the first place, so even if global heroin production was down by 25%, 50%, America wouldn't be effected at all. Some 3rd world country which pays next to nothing for heroin might be effected...but the US will still be full of dope.

Don't worry junkies, your dealer isn't running out any time soon.
 
This isn't going to work, they will never be able to compete with what the farmers make off poppies, maybe for a short while they could but as if they can afford to just endlessly give handouts to poppy farmers.
 
I wonder how low they would have to cut Opium production in Aghnistan/the 3rd World before prices were so high that people in the 1st World would risk growing it and manufacturing diamorphine/Heroin?

I know fentanyl deriatives are already being made in the US or Mexico, but that doesn't seem to be happening in Europe, or here in the UK.

I guess here people would turn to morphine deriatives synthesised from OTC Codeine.
 
It allows our military to occupy Afghanistan for the year of 2009, and at least for the next few years. Because obviously if we can't do anything productive now, we can't do it for the next four years!

Is this the main reason the US are so adamant to wipe out the afghan poppy production? To help their imperialist objectives?

I'm still trying to figure what exact benefit this gives to the US government. Because we all know its not to save the heroin addicted population. Why the hell are the DEA even allowed to work in Afghanistan in the first place?
 
Is this the main reason the US are so adamant to wipe out the afghan poppy production? To help their imperialist objectives?

I believe that there are corrupt politicians that are making a killing on the way the system is the way it is. There are obviously drugs coming into the states, and it is obvious that it is almost as if people in the government are assisting the drugs getting here.

If you watch American Gangster or Cocaine Cowboys, you get the feeling that everyone was using and that the war on drugs is a way of displacing money out of the hands of drug users into the hands of the drug cartel. And the money that comes from drug users comes from nearly everyone, users or not.

There are politicians linked to drug cartels. I mean, there have to be; there have been in the past, why wouldn't there be now? There are still corrupt cops being arrested day in and day out. I have seen my fair share of them. If you were in their shoes - you'd do the same thing. If you did business with the cartels, you would get a super padded over seas banking account, you would have a nice home, a nice car, plenty of drugs, whereas what's the objective to not doing business with them? You say "no" and then they are like "OK" and then they still bring drugs into the country. Another politician makes that sweet deal, and you're left in the dust. Hell, maybe to ensure you won't speak to feds, they'll kill you.

When the stakes for drug distribution are so high, it's only a wonder why people still do it - because the potential gains are so high as well.

Another reason the US gov't makes money the way it is now is due to the pharmaceutical industry. If heroin was legal, who would pay $100's each month for OxyContin when you could just get heroin which would be much, much more affordable? If cocaine and methamphetamine were legal, who would be getting adderall or ritalin? If MDMA was legal, who would seek out alcohol as their social inebriation of choice? If marijuana was legal, who would seek out tobacco (which IMO delivers absolutely no high compared to marijuana)?

Big business and the government are hand in hand on this one.
 
So wouldn't they want to protect the poppy fields in afghanistan? If there are no poppy fields and no heroin, they wont make any cash?
 
Dude if they somehow shut down the Heroin production in Afghanistan then the people that make up the operation of making H will just move to another place...
 
Eliminating supply Doesnt Work! Obviously. The war on drugs make other wars (not that I agree with those either) worse, because there's so much money to be made producing/selling illegal drugs. The US government, the corrupt politicians and the pharmaceutical companies make too much money from the way the current f*'d up system is. One more farm will pop up somewhere else...spreading the influence of drug cartels into previously unadulterated areas....way to go idiots...not that it hasn't happened before. It's stupid. I want to move to Canada.
 
Fuck heroin, fuck heroin producers, and most of all, FUCK HEROIN JUNKIES!!!!
 
Fuck heroin, fuck heroin producers, and most of all, FUCK HEROIN JUNKIES!!!!

I don't use Heroin anymore, but have in the past and also in the past have had your attitude. It's shallow and ridiculous to say such a blatantly retarded statement. Especially on a website that's promoting harm reduction and is very tolerant of people of all walks of life.

I don't do Heroin anymore nor do I really care about it, but I do care about ignorance and comments that are way to vague and generalize a whole group of people when heroin addicts come in all kinds of shapes and sizes. I was never a crazy junkie, I held a job, a fiance, house, and a large junk habit of a gram or more a day.

Every heroin addict isn't a psycho homeless junkie, some people you know are probably addicts and you just don't know it. Functioning addicts are hard to pick out at times. Although I will say unlike other drugs. It was only a matter of time before heroin makes you dysfunctional no matter how hard you try for it not to.

As far as this plan goes, our government in the US is just dumb and this isn;t going to work. Were just going to waste more money. That's just what we need in a recession.
 
Fuck heroin, fuck heroin producers, and most of all, FUCK HEROIN JUNKIES!!!!

Fuck pot, fuck pot growers, and most of all, FUCK STONERS.

Ok, I don't really hate weed, growers or smokers for that matter.
Seriously though, do you really think you are making a valuable statement?
Only an idiot goes on a drug site to insult drug users. Grow up.
 
I like Captain Heroin's point of view on all of this. It's always made perfect sense to me that the government is all lies and money. I wish more people knew of this unfortunate fact, it would give the gov less power.
 
As if pouring millions of dollars into trying to eradicate poppy production is gonna suddenly make people stop taking drugs
poeple have been using opiates for 2-2500yrs and its only become a problem (in polite societies eyes) in the last 110yrs.

no-matter how many billions of dollars eventually get thrown at this laughable "war on drugs" will only ever achieve nothing because as long as people wanna get high there will be people who will cater for their needs, wherever the poppies end-up being grown

all these wasted millions of dollars are just for one thing and one thing only- to get people to vote for their party
surely it would be cheaper and easier(because it saves alienating citizens of another country)
at campaign time it would be easier for canvasers to go round to their constituents and offer them like 50quid to vote for them instead of telling them "vote for us and we will get rid of all those evil junkies"

i know that i will never see the day that government and society finally see the plainly obvious and realise that instead of fighting the drug war but to make money offa it

until that day, all goverment are doing is throwing millions at an unsolable "problem" PLUS allowing their own citizens to line the pockets of the very people they are fighting against, thus loosing double
all this in the persuance of votes...

so in 2500 yrs people have consumed opiates and in another 2500 yrs people will still be using substances to make life more bareable no-matter what other people think

i just wish i was there to see the day that people are allowed to do what they want and just because someone else doesnt like it doesnt mean that i couldnt do it


-sim
 
I didn't think I made an important statement, I just think smack is whack!
 
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So wouldn't they want to protect the poppy fields in afghanistan? If there are no poppy fields and no heroin, they wont make any cash?

Doctor Robert, if by "they" you mean the US government, then by no means do they want to destroy the poppy fields of Afghanistan. Oh sure, some "well-meaning" naive people in the gov't may have honest intentions, but they don't make any policy decisions. The Taliban did a MUCH better job of getting Afghans to stop growing opium poppy than our foreign soldiers ever could. At first, the Taliban let farmers grow opium poppy (but not marijuana) because Muslims/Afghans smoked hashish but opium was for Westerners only (death to us from all angles!). Then in July of 2000, Mullah Mohammed Omar banned the cultivation of opium, and within 6-8 months Afghanistan went from producing over 75% of the world's supply of opium to producing nearly NOTHING. They literally arrested thousands of farmers until they agreed to destroy their crops (reluctantly, as opium is MANY times more lucrative). One province planted 12,600 acres of poppy the prior year, but after the ban only planted 17 acres, all of which were destroyed. A group of 12 UN inspectors (yes, the Taliban's drug eradication program had help from the UN) surveyed the country and at the October 2001 UN General Assembly announced that the Taliban had reduced opium production by 94-97%.

Their motivations were either religious and they simply didn't want any opium/drug on their land based on their faith, or as some people speculate, they were preventing the next year's crop being planted so that prices would rise and they could use that extra tax money to fund their activities (or so I understand it).

Regardless of which assertion is correct, after the Taliban were "ousted" by the U.S. in 2001, opium production sprung to life again, and by 2006 Afghanistan was (and is) growing 90% of the world's opium supply. What leads me to believe the Taliban originally banned it for religious reasons is because AFTER essentially running to Waziristan (in Pakistan) in 2003 they forbade opium production there as well. Seems to be legit religious fundamentalism to me...

PS Sorry if the "they" you were referring to was the US Gov't.... if so, then the answer should be obvious that yes, we want to keep the opium fields running. For major power players (governments, banking institutions, etc), the drug trade is third worldwide only to oil and arms. Controlling the area where 90% of the world's opium is produced is almost as lucrative and empowering as controlling the flow of oil out of the Middle East and other regions, or the exchange of arms between two nations at war. There's a large sum of money going through peoples' hands in this business, and often times it ends up being laundered in Western international banking institutions. There are a lot of powerful interests who want to keep the opium trade running and under their control, just as there have been for hundreds of years. Let's not forget that the British had to sneak opium out of China in the 1800s (it was legal in England but prohibited in China) in order to sell it in European markets, and opium became very popular for a while. Same old hustle, right?
 
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