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OmarLittle
09-03-2009, 01:01
Is shooting heroin in a vein on the top of my hand safe? I'm having trouble shooting anywhere else and the veins on my hand are bulging and look like the best area to do it.

The veins on the top of my hand are really really visable, and look like the easiest place to hit. Has anyone else done this?

Note: I'm new to IVing and have messed up a couple shots on my inner arm, so I wanna give them a rest for a couple days and try and use the hand if it is safe. I'm just having a problem with my injection technique and could use some advice.
Alot of the time a stick it in, and have a hard time keeping it in while I register blood.


ALL that aside, Is it ok to shoot in the veins on the top of my hand?

Deez1234
09-03-2009, 01:12
I don't have any advice as i don't IV myself personally, BUT i do have friends who would only use the top of their hands so i can assure you that it works and i don't see why it would be any worse than any other veins. Hope i helped a littlle. %)

bow-viper1
09-03-2009, 01:18
Shooting into the top of your hand is as safe as anywhere, except for the fact that the veins are much smaller, thus the risk of slipping or missing is much higher.

Make sure you push the plunger down much more slowly to account for the size of the veins. And don't use the same vein over and over, you'll get some nasty scars that are a lot more noticeable than they are on other places on your body.

As for advice, the veins in your hand are much closer to your skin surface, so you have to angle it much closer to parallel with your hand than you would with your arm. The big risk is jabbing right through the vein.

TheDankaholic
09-03-2009, 01:42
When I sued to IV i hit my hand all the time. Just rotate spots to avoid nasty scars that are really noticeable and never go away. I have a full sleeve on my left arm so I always shot through my tattoo and I have no visible track marks because of it. Just be careful im lucky I quit when I did.

leftwing
09-03-2009, 03:01
i've never used my hands but i can imagine they would be a little more delicate to hit than the top of the fore arm and crook of my elbow where i'm used to hitting. the dorsal veonous network's main vein and cephallic vein look like theyre the easiest to hit in my opinion. the veins on the hand are smaller in size than the the inner elbow and very close to the surface so they're going to roll a little easier and you're going to want to have a steady hand so you don't go poking through.

have a look at some of the injecting guides that are linked in the directory and mega threads stickies. heres a pic to refer you to the vein networks
http://anatomyatlases.org/firstaid/images/injectionC.jpg

donkeyPUNCH
09-03-2009, 03:58
its a little more tender and delicate of a procedure, but it works fine. just be careful. if you're shaky I wouldn't recommend it really. but leftwing's image there is a good road map so to speak. I'd hit the cephalic vein if I were in your position.

'medicine cabinet'
09-03-2009, 04:34
The cephalic vein was always my fav when i had those little 1/3cc syringes. I have to admit, hitting on the tops of your hands hurts like hell. The cephalic not so much, its actually pretty painless. I overused the one on my left hand but i can still get at my right if i needed to.

Shovelist
09-03-2009, 05:14
The cephalic vein .


about 1/2" below my index knuckle worked when my veins kept rolling one night.

alexxlife
09-03-2009, 05:44
it is safe to shoot in your hand, I did it many times ,but these veins roll and you have to be extra careful not to miss- it will heart if you do.when inject do it very slowly and make sure you register by pulling the plunger and observing blood coming out of the vein. good luck

OmarLittle
09-03-2009, 08:37
Wow thanks for the wealth of information, really helpful.

I am skinny and have low bodyfat %, so my arms have lots of veins to choose from, but the ones on my inner elbow joint aren't that visable. Are the veins on my inner forearm ok to use?

The vein on the top of the bicep looks like a good injection site too, has anyone used that one with good results?

I'm new to shooting and if someone could link the "shooting/injecting/IV" thread that would be very helpful to me.

Also, does anyone know where to find those rubber ties, like they use in the hospital? Do they sell those at the pharmacy?

rath
09-03-2009, 08:52
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=75897 Here you go.

hydrouser
09-03-2009, 14:52
I have shot in my hand, forearm, and crook of my arm. The only reason I haven't shot in my bicep is because I can't see the vein very well. I have seen others hit there.

alexxlife
09-03-2009, 15:10
Also, does anyone know where to find those rubber ties, like they use in the hospital? Do they sell those at the pharmacy?
belt will work just as good if not better as rubber tie

philly_philly
09-03-2009, 18:01
I also used to have problems finding veins in my forearm. I'd do my the back of my hands, try to get a big one on my inner wrist, or do certain places on my chest (I'm a girl.) I wouldn't recommend these places to anyone as being safe; I'm just saying that I did it and am not dead.

Shovelist
09-03-2009, 18:03
I've pushed in my wrist before. A bit difficult, but hit it with a smaller length needle.

yo_bot
09-03-2009, 22:10
i always go for that big long vien on the top of my fore arms mostly the right, it's easy and painless and it doesn't bruise as easy or badly.

i always use new or nearly new needles and where i hit jus looks like there may have been and old pimple scar, very unnoticed.

good luck, think safety

edarrin
09-03-2009, 22:41
The hand veins roll around a lot and are easy to miss. Make sure you register and if it starts to really sting you are outside the vein most likely.

Not a good place for a novice to start, esp. if you can't hit the crook of your elbow.

Be safe. If you can find someone to show you how.

iimsooflyxx
09-03-2009, 22:42
you can do it, its just harder to hit it cause the veins like to move around on ur hand

Fentanyl_Fiend
10-03-2009, 00:23
Ive been Doing heroin for 10 years . Ive only been banging herion (Slamming) for about 5 1/2 years . I know everything there is to know about mainlining any drug ... So when i tell you that you can use ANY vein that draws blood in your body Its because ive used every vein in my body and i know its safe . The problem with useing your hand ISNT that the vein rolls or that its small . The problem is only if you miss . When banging heroin especially is only if you miss . So make sure when your mainlining (Useing a vein and not a muscle) heroin You re-register about 3 times befor you put it all the way in . For instance . If your outfit (Needle) Is a 1CC 30 gauge needle That means that your needle width is a 30 gauge and the amount of liquid you can hold in the needle is 1CC Alot of people think that the numbers on the side of a needle represent 1cc per number . Thats ABSOLUTELY wrong . Anyways back to topic. If you have 50 units of Heroin/Water in your rig (needle) first register (Pull the needle back to check if your in the vein) Push in about 15-20 units , Check again for blood , Push in about 15-20 more , Check again then Push the rest in . NOW its not over yet . To prevent heroin from gettin out of the vein you need to "Jack off the rig" Which means after all the dope is in your arm Just Pull a little blood out and push it back in . This helps keep your vein and skin in good condition .
Also you need to make sure to tie off befor Pokin yourself (EVen if you dont have to) . This will keep your vein alive and usable . You only loosen your belt when you start to push your dope into your vein . DOnt loosen it too fast because your needle might 1) COme out of your vein or 2) Poke threw the other side . Also if your useing your hand its a good idea to hold your hand up afterwords and shake it a little to get the blood pumping (This isnt mandatory but i recomend it)
Have fun!

Fentanyl_Fiend
10-03-2009, 00:31
Wow thanks for the wealth of information, really helpful.

I am skinny and have low bodyfat %, so my arms have lots of veins to choose from, but the ones on my inner elbow joint aren't that visable. Are the veins on my inner forearm ok to use?

The vein on the top of the bicep looks like a good injection site too, has anyone used that one with good results?

I'm new to shooting and if someone could link the "shooting/injecting/IV" thread that would be very helpful to me.

Also, does anyone know where to find those rubber ties, like they use in the hospital? Do they sell those at the pharmacy?

Yes , Actually Almost every vein in my body is gone Except a few in my hands and the one that goes from my elbow to my hand on the inner side of my forearm . It was hard for me to hit at first but with some practice its actually very easy , The bad part about this location is that the skin there is much more tough then the skin in your ditchs or your hands (Ditchs - the little areawhere your forearm and bicep meet) .. My ditchs have been shot out for like 4 and a half years lOl ... The ties are called ... Umm i cant spell it .. Its something like turnaquit Its pronounced Turn-a-kit .. Lol im chewing a 100 mcg fentanyl patch right now .. Lols You can PM me or AIM me if you have anymore questions
AIM - Diluted10x

Psychlone Jack
10-03-2009, 00:59
I've used the hand before, it's safe, but tricky to hit because the vein rolls. Easier to hit with a short tip rig though.

Yanno, I just checked out that cephalic vein around my wrist, and that son of a bitch is lookin ripe... now if I only had some dope. :(

dieselbaby
12-03-2009, 09:51
Cephalic vein is my #1 spot for life. That, and the one that Fentanyl Fried talked about that runs along the inside of your forearm from your hand to your elbow. That vein on my arm is fuckin' huge, like a quarter inch in diameter and bulges up like a motherfucker when I wrap that tourniquet tight.

golfer27
16-03-2010, 08:17
If you are new to shootin, i learned the hard way that the best thing to do when your first startin out is to start low and work ur way up the arms i.e. like hit urself in ur hands as much as u can then once those are gone move up to ur fore arm then ur bicep etc.

The reason for this that is that if u start up high, u could possibly poke holes through ur upper arm's veins, thus resulting in dope leakage, which is painful just like if u were to miss completely. You will shoot in ur hand and as it travels up u will begin to feel a burning pain in a completly different spot than where u r injecting. For me when this first happened i became very confused, until i asked a buddy of mine what the deal was and he explained to me that i had a hole in my vein, which then reminded me of the first or second time i was shootin and he suggested starting low and working my way up, but at the time i was just worried about hitting the easiest spot i could. Now i wish i would have listened it would have saved me alot of trouble, and veins. Hope this helps.

brittjosh4eva
14-11-2010, 13:05
What do u do if u shoot up in ur hand and you miss the vein and have a big bump? Is there any way to retrive what you just shot? Can u just stick the needle back in,then pull to suck it back in,then re shoot it?

IzaBadger!
14-11-2010, 20:06
I tried one in my hand with no luck, and then the area kept swelling up really badly, had to keep pressure on it for ages before it would stop swelling right up again..same thing as happened when I was in hospital and they took blood out of my wrist. Very wierd and a bit disturbing..does this not happen to anyone else?

chuchu
14-11-2010, 20:14
Not such a good idea what with the vein roll and all. there are alot of places to shoot esp on your arm not just the crook. i used to have problems getting a shot mostly due to the eagerness in finding a vein but some warm up(yes!) before shooting up works wonders in getting out those shy bastards.

Brightonhead
15-11-2010, 02:31
I've been through every single vein in both hands, even the capilleries on the inside of my finger joints. There's nothing left now. I had really usable veins until a few years ago when I started shooting snowballs, the shaking hands made me miss so many times I shot out every vein in my body, including neck and groin within four years. Once in a while I'll be able to catch a little vein but I IM now. The only veins ive ever not managed to use are on my palms: those fuckers HURT!

candycandy
15-11-2010, 04:24
The inner arms are the easiest veins to shoot for most people - if you can't do that, I personally would NOT try hand veins as they are much trickier. So easy to blow and end up w/ a VERY visible bruise. The wrist vein ("Cephalic vein" in the diagram) is thicker & easier, though on some people it can be tough to find...

Call Me"PRIEST"
15-11-2010, 21:19
it shore does work, just be careful not to get track marks. also when you miss a shot a large lump can appear and your hand can swell. much more noticeable as well.

when i was into shooting coke i had to use my hands because my other sites were poor. one time i missed a large coke shot and my hand swelled up like a balloon.

titicaca2
17-01-2011, 18:26
In the getting off right manual and several other Publications from trusted medical sources say that jacking blood back into the needle is absolutely horrible for you it only causes unnecessary damage to the vein. Thee is no gain to the user, unless you are trying to get that last drop of dope out of the rig.

If you leave the needle in for second after the shot, and immediately apply firm pressure with your finger from your other arm while you are withdrawing the needle, this should aid in preventing blood to leak out under the skin, which is what caused that bruising.


But who knows, I've only been IVing for one month.


Ive been Doing heroin for 10 years . Ive only been banging herion (Slamming) for about 5 1/2 years . I know everything there is to know about mainlining any drug ... So when i tell you that you can use ANY vein that draws blood in your body Its because ive used every vein in my body and i know its safe . The problem with useing your hand ISNT that the vein rolls or that its small . The problem is only if you miss . When banging heroin especially is only if you miss . So make sure when your mainlining (Useing a vein and not a muscle) heroin You re-register about 3 times befor you put it all the way in . For instance . If your outfit (Needle) Is a 1CC 30 gauge needle That means that your needle width is a 30 gauge and the amount of liquid you can hold in the needle is 1CC Alot of people think that the numbers on the side of a needle represent 1cc per number . Thats ABSOLUTELY wrong . Anyways back to topic. If you have 50 units of Heroin/Water in your rig (needle) first register (Pull the needle back to check if your in the vein) Push in about 15-20 units , Check again for blood , Push in about 15-20 more , Check again then Push the rest in . NOW its not over yet . To prevent heroin from gettin out of the vein you need to "Jack off the rig" Which means after all the dope is in your arm Just Pull a little blood out and push it back in . This helps keep your vein and skin in good condition .
Also you need to make sure to tie off befor Pokin yourself (EVen if you dont have to) . This will keep your vein alive and usable . You only loosen your belt when you start to push your dope into your vein . DOnt loosen it too fast because your needle might 1) COme out of your vein or 2) Poke threw the other side . Also if your useing your hand its a good idea to hold your hand up afterwords and shake it a little to get the blood pumping (This isnt mandatory but i recomend it)
Have fun!

tarStar
17-01-2011, 18:55
Wish I could still hit my hands...Fingers constantly cold, turn blue when it's windy out. Used left and right hands for a few months straight. Now I've found a couple hidden ones below the top of my wrist and elbow area...If I want to find a vein anywhere on my hand I'm aiming between knuckles and fingers.

I suggest keep trying other places. It's a slower rush when you start going after the smaller veins, but a rush nonetheless...

edit: re: "jacking off the plunger" is NOT good for your skin nor your veins, don't spread false information. That does more harm than good, it is actually hard on your veins. When you pull your plunger back it creates suction in the vein pulling the vein walls together. Every time you puncture your vein wall your body creates blood clots in that area...I don't know about you, but injecting a blood clot or even injecting downstream of a bloodclot isn't good. If you're worried about any leakage just pull back the plunger as you slowly pull out & it will suck up anything that leaks. Don't attempt to re-shoot this, any extra high you get is placebo. If yer that concerned about the extra heroin, squirt the rest into your mouth.

MaLfUnCtIoN5
17-01-2011, 19:59
i use my hands quite frequently when i have overused my arms. its a little trickier because as mention they are smaller and roll. but if you can hit them they work like any other vein. just go slow like someone else mentioned cause its possible to blow them with them being so tiny.

ErikTheRed
18-01-2011, 00:10
Make sure you use the finest gauge possible for hand veins. I only used 31 or 32 gauge for my hands. With these thinner neeedles I didn't get much bruising or highly noticeable track marks and I was injecting into my hands for a good month and a half straight. This was just my experience, it may not be the same for you.

You can't cover up track marks on your hand, so that should be some added incentive to be careful :)

robatussin
18-01-2011, 05:11
i personally prefer the spot on the top of your hand between the pinky and ring finger where veins intersect (see the hand diagram). if you are missing a shot stop shooting

Captain.Heroin
18-01-2011, 05:18
Make sure you use the finest gauge possible for hand veins. I only used 31 or 32 gauge for my hands. With these thinner neeedles I didn't get much bruising or highly noticeable track marks and I was injecting into my hands for a good month and a half straight. This was just my experience, it may not be the same for you.

You can't cover up track marks on your hand, so that should be some added incentive to be careful :)

This is exactly what I try to tell people who ask about IVing in hand veins.

I never had to rely solely on my hand veins, so I don't have the same experience as you. Plus, I have never tried a 32G before, though I know where to buy 32 and 33 gauge 1/2" luer lock tips.

nvan7891
18-01-2011, 05:27
I know people that shoot there. even tho they are easy to see they can still be hard to hit. try and shoot as small a volume of solution as possible and push in slow so u don't burst a vein.

HT harm redux
18-01-2011, 20:33
I always shot in my hand, i could never get another vein to come up. i did it for about 2 years. i do have a scar now but it doesnt look like anything involving a needle caused it and its going away 2 years later. so the hand is def a safe bet if youre like me and cannot find any other veins. i did in my hand also to avoid having those "heroin" marks on the inside of my elbows that make it obvious what a person is doing. no one here has a clue about how i got my scar on my hand. I tell them i was petting a dog and it tried to bite me and i yanked my hand out and its tooth snaged my hand

andrikos1977
02-03-2011, 05:38
im 34 and im on and off smack since 1996.i shoot 1/3 of all times i use.i have shot a hundred times in the upper side of my hand.it definetely works and these particular veins look tough!i have used my cephalic veins in my thumbs for nymerous shootings and even they look and are smaller if you shoot with caution and parience you ll have them for many shootings.one thing i prefer about upper hand shootings is that the marks dont look as bad as the ones in your inner arms which shout "junkie!".
from my 14 year experience i know that junkies ruin their veins from numerous unsucccesfull tries.they are anxious to shoot and nervous so we see people poking their skin 10-15 times untill they find a stream.
i also use the a tiny vein in my index finger and upper side of my feet.they work too but i use smaller needles.

affasd
02-03-2011, 20:44
The first time I ever shot up I did it on my hand for precisely the same reason and I hit it first try. Just make sure you go in basically parallel to your hand and with the hole facing up because they are very close to the surface and you don't want to poke thru it.

BrokedownPalace
02-03-2011, 21:13
Although I am on methadone currently, I still take a couple days off here and there to shoot a little dope. today is one of those days. =D %)

Haha sorry. Anyways, in my experience the hand veins are quite easy to hit. My arm veins are pretty shot, with the exception of 1 or 2 that I can still hit with a little effort. My hands are still good though, with 4 or so spots on each hand I can hit every time without even tying off. My favorite one is on my right hand; the one that kinda runs from in between your pinky and ring fingers down to the outside of your wrist.

I do find though that shooting in my hands kinda delays the rush by a little bit. It isn't a huge deal though, but it really seems like when I do shoot in the crook of my arm it does hit me a bit faster. I'm talking seconds here, not a huge margin but definitely noticeable.

If you are inexperienced I would try and avoid your hands, though, since if you miss it is not good at all. It will swell up big and moving your fingers will hurt. Also you'll have a huge funky looking bump on your hand that you can't hide. When you miss in your hands, especially with something non sterile like heroin, or worse, pills, it is harder to fight off an infection. This could lead to abscesses or infections which would require medical attention.

andrikos1977
02-03-2011, 23:58
If you are inexperienced I would try and avoid your hands, though, since if you miss it is not good at all. It will swell up big and moving your fingers will hurt. Also you'll have a huge funky looking bump on your hand that you can't hide. When you miss in your hands, especially with something non sterile like heroin, or worse, pills, it is harder to fight off an infection. This could lead to abscesses or infections which would require medical attention.

i remember missing a couple of times and my hand literally transformed completely!a huge bright-white bump formed and the rest of the hand turned as red as Danny Bonaduce's head.it also brought me a burning feeling.

everytime the bump and the discomfort dissapearred after 45 minutes or so.

p.s. from the inside of your hands,right where the wrist meets the palm and to the thumbs side there are some veins also.I once spiked one of them and when i drew some blood my syringe filled with it.so i went on and pressed a good amount inside.my hand swallowed like a ballon and the pain was the worst i have ever experienced in my life.for about 3 to 5 minutes i was screaming like a bitch.I dont know what the case was but some old timers told me that i hit a "negative" vein.anyone knows anything about this situation?it was worse than hell

BrokedownPalace
03-03-2011, 00:11
^There is an artery in your wrist on the inside, near where your thumb meets the wrist. Turn you hand over and put your fingers on your wrist, and you'll feel your pulse. That is where the artery is. If you hit an artery with your syringe, the force of the blood will shoot up into your syringe, sometimes even without registering. Arterial blood is also really bright red. Shooting into an artery is not good at all. It hurts like hell and can cause massive complications. You are lucky that you recovered without medical attention.

Also I have never heard of a "negative" vein.. These "old timers" were just spewing un-educated bullshit, like most other drug users you'll come across.

Kurrupt
03-03-2011, 04:24
They probably meant an artery and used negative as slang. Makes sense since they move blood away from the heart.

Warped Reality
03-03-2011, 04:52
When I use to bang Ketamine I used the veins in between my toes lol... worked like a charm xD


edit... and i just got curious and just read now that IVing Ketamine is extremely dangerous to your health... I wish I knew that earlier... You're supposed to IM it...

Captain.Heroin
03-03-2011, 06:00
i remember missing a couple of times and my hand literally transformed completely!a huge bright-white bump formed and the rest of the hand turned as red as Danny Bonaduce's head.it also brought me a burning feeling.

everytime the bump and the discomfort dissapearred after 45 minutes or so.

p.s. from the inside of your hands,right where the wrist meets the palm and to the thumbs side there are some veins also.I once spiked one of them and when i drew some blood my syringe filled with it.so i went on and pressed a good amount inside.my hand swallowed like a ballon and the pain was the worst i have ever experienced in my life.for about 3 to 5 minutes i was screaming like a bitch.I dont know what the case was but some old timers told me that i hit a "negative" vein.anyone knows anything about this situation?it was worse than hell

It sounds like you hit an artery. Arteries carry blood to the extremities, whereas veins carry blood away from the extremities.


i just got curious and just read now that IVing Ketamine is extremely dangerous to your health... I wish I knew that earlier... You're supposed to IM it...

I doubt that is true. I have IV'd ketamine plenty of times.

edarrin
04-03-2011, 22:19
when i was into shooting coke i had to use my hands because my other sites were poor. one time i missed a large coke shot and my hand swelled up like a balloon


Ha!ha!~

Done that one before. My right wrist and hand are completely frozen now.

Gets to be a drag when it gets to the point of using your hands IMO.

As mentioned...rotate sites.

littlesparkle
08-03-2011, 20:36
sure you can use hands.be gentle and slow,register again halfway to be sure yu're still in

murphle
09-03-2011, 07:55
Wow, lotsa good info in here. Thanx y'all!

BanginMyLifeAway
09-03-2011, 09:12
u need to know what u doing to do it that way but i used to do it when i was living that life its easier if u got big veins there..be careful tho if u do it alot ya hands can look bad

HdoubleODeezy
09-03-2011, 09:16
i used to be able to shoot in my hands when i first learned to IV but with short tips but now i use 1/2" tips and i tend to go through them since they're so close to the skin, and sometimes i cant even see my hand veins and other times they're bulging out and i say i wish i had a loaded rig right now lol.