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Darkprogramer
03-03-2009, 21:07
Hi everyone,

Does anyone know where I can purchase some saline solution
for injecting with? Must you have a prescription to buy it or
can you just walk into any pharmacy and get it?


Thanks,

Your friend - Darkprogramer

Darkprogramer
03-03-2009, 21:11
Does anyone know if saline solution for injecting is expensive?
Also, are there different types, must you get a certain kind?

Thanks

Damien
03-03-2009, 21:14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saline_(medicine)

BadHabbit
03-03-2009, 21:42
you can purchase sterile saline online without a perscription but I cannot tell you where, because that would be sourcing.. ;) and also if you want it for injecting you can buy water for that purpose also online just FYI...
peace love and light
Mat

phatass
03-03-2009, 22:24
over here they often give it out at big free parties.. otherwise you can buy packs of 50 in pharmacys but it says "not for injection", i dunno how seriously they mean this...

TheNod7783
04-03-2009, 03:43
you can use purified water I think, or yea just go to any pharmacy and ask,

dont encourage people to steal, especially when it's only saline solution - leftwing

ranunky
05-03-2009, 18:30
http://www.exchangesupplies.org/needle_exchange_supplies/water/water_intro.html

A mod linked to this site before so i'm guessin this is ok.

sixpartseven
05-03-2009, 19:00
^ Any source for legal, harm reduction related supplies (needles, filters, saline, etc.) is allowed.

But yeah, saline can be purchased off the shelf at any pharmacy or super-market with a pharmacy.

delta_9
05-03-2009, 19:13
NS(normal saline) is just water with 0.9% NaCl, making it the exact salt content of human blood. You can get it pretty much anywhere.

brutus
05-03-2009, 20:01
Wow, saline is salt water...

Of course you need a prescription to buy salt and water.

Seriously though, there's a brand called Simply Saline that is the right concentration for injection that is available OTC. It comes in a pretty damn big spray bottle.

phrozen
05-03-2009, 21:18
Simply Saline, as mentioned by wiggi. Right concentration, sterile, and in a convenient spray dispenser. It's sold at all the major pharmacy chains - at least in the US.

BoulderBob
06-01-2010, 22:03
Sorry for the bump, but I believe in the interest of harm reduction, it's fairly important.

If anyone is close to Chicago, you can schedule a confidential meeting with the Chicago Recovery Association(I just went to a nice couple's house). The explained everything and anything in a short session and I cam away with around 100 needles/syringes, sterile water/saline, sterile cookers/swabs, ten vials of narcan(the opiate overdose life-saver, literally...the most important medicine a user or group of users NEED to have around), and the phone number of the fine woman I was taking the session with.

Oxymorphone
06-01-2010, 22:27
Search for needle exhchanges around you and go to one. You get everything you need including sterile water tubes which have been great for IVing. As someone else mentioned they say 'not for injection' but I think that is a technical term since they are supplied for IVing and worked very well.

dokomo
06-01-2010, 22:49
Sorry for the bump, but I believe in the interest of harm reduction, it's fairly important.

If anyone is close to Chicago, you can schedule a confidential meeting with the Chicago Recovery Association(I just went to a nice couple's house). The explained everything and anything in a short session and I cam away with around 100 needles/syringes, sterile water/saline, sterile cookers/swabs, ten vials of narcan(the opiate overdose life-saver, literally...the most important medicine a user or group of users NEED to have around), and the phone number of the fine woman I was taking the session with.

I've been wondering, since narcan is prescription, how can these places just hand it out? Or do they all have docs to do it

Oxymorphone
06-01-2010, 22:54
I've been wondering, since narcan is prescription, how can these places just hand it out? Or do they all have docs to do it

They have doctors, most exchanges have a training program before giving it out or giving out an Rx.

rikerliker707
06-01-2010, 23:53
They may have something similar to our PGDs (Patient Group Directives) or the authorities may have agreed to look the other way in furtherance of harm reduction, as the UK government did for years with the supply of injecting equipment to heroin addicts, which was technically illegal until 2007 under Section 9 of the Misuse of Drugs Act which prohibits supply of objects intended for the administration of an unlawfully possessed controlled drug.

sixpartseven
07-01-2010, 05:41
Thread re-opened. Saline solution can be obtained legally without prescription.

Captain.Heroin
07-01-2010, 05:48
Thread re-opened. Saline solution can be obtained legally without prescription.

So can bacteriostatic water, which is 0.9% benzyl alcohol. This is more ideal (over sterile water) if you're planning on creating a solution which will be in use for 1-2 weeks. The benzyl alcohol should help prevent the growth of bacteria in the water.

Thanks for re-opening the thread, 6/7.

sixpartseven
07-01-2010, 05:53
No problem.

Just so it's clear to everyone, I didn't close it.

That is all.

Captain.Heroin
07-01-2010, 05:55
No problem.

Just so it's clear to everyone, I didn't close it.

That is all.

Neither did I.

However, I have found that it is harder to find bacteriostatic water on sites like GPZservices. So, try to shop around for bacteriostatic water online. Some sites sell it cheaper than others.

Buying a case is probably the most affordable option.

sixpartseven
07-01-2010, 05:58
The amount of benzyl alcohol in it seems low, so I assume it's safe for IV use, yeah? I've never heard of it being used for IV, so this is all totally new to me.

And is it only better if you're making solutions that are supposed to sit around for a while? For a one off shot, would saline still be the better choice?

Captain.Heroin
07-01-2010, 07:05
The amount of benzyl alcohol in it seems low, so I assume it's safe for IV use, yeah? I've never heard of it being used for IV, so this is all totally new to me.

And is it only better if you're making solutions that are supposed to sit around for a while? For a one off shot, would saline still be the better choice?

It may seem low but I think it's safe for IV use. Here's what it says in the tray that I got (sorry for any neonate junkies that are out there reading this ;)):


BACTERIOSTATIC WATER
for Injection, USP Rx only
Multiple-dose Plastic Vial
Warning: Not for use in neonates
Description: The following preparation is designed solely for parenteral use only after addition of drugs that require dilution or must be dissolved in an aqueous vehicle prior to injection.
Bacteriostatic Water for Injection, USP is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water for injection containing 0.9% (9mg/mL) of benzyl alcohol added as a bacteriostatic preservative. It is supplied in a multi-dose container from which repeated withdrawals may be made to dilute or dissolve drugs for injection. The pH is 5.7 (4.5 to 7.0).
Water for Injection, USP is chemically designated H20.
The semi-rigid vial is fabricated from a specially formulated polyolefin. It is a copolymer of ethylene and propylene. The safety of the plastic that has been confirmed by tests in animals according to USP biological standards for plastic containers. The container requires no vapor barrier to maintain the proper labeled volume.

As for if saline is better for shots not sitting around (for use now), I have no idea. Sorry. I'm assuming either is fine, but I am not 100% sure.

If you are doing test shots (water only) then ONLY use saline.


Intravenous injection of Bacteriostatic Water for Injection without a solute may result in hemolysis.

OXY_Chronicles
07-01-2010, 14:18
So can normal saline be injected with the 0.9% NaCL

Shambles
07-01-2010, 16:05
Yup.


Drugs which must be injected to have the usually sought effect include ketamine, fentanil (fentanyl)-class opioids, and many other are much weaker and/or very different by mouth than by injection (or other rapid methods like smoking or insufflation, which are often intermediate betwixt injection and other methods rather than being just like injection), e.g. some groups of opioids, cocaine, &c. In many cases with opioids and some depressants, IV administration is the only route that causes the "rush" or "bang" 100 per cent of the time mutatis mutandis.

All of these drugs need to be dissolved in a vehicle, usually either water or 9‰ (0.9 per cent) saline.

linky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_injection)

OXY_Chronicles
07-01-2010, 16:55
The reason I ask is I have some saline thats for wounds and it say not for injection, do they just put that on all saline or is there a difference in saline for wounds and injection saline?

sixpartseven
07-01-2010, 17:35
There might be a difference. Some brands of saline have other things in it besides .9 percent NaCL. Check the back of the bottle or on the box it came in it for the ingredients list and make sure there are no other chemicals/drugs in it.

Eight0Eight
07-01-2010, 17:40
Whats the advantage of using saline to inject over regular water?

sixpartseven
07-01-2010, 18:19
Saline is purified and clean. Tap water has all kinds of additives in it that aren't necessarily good to be putting in your veins. Plus, the salt content in saline is exactly the same as the ratio of salt in your body, so there is no risk of putting too much in.

johnny911
16-02-2011, 03:04
I know this thread is old, but swim just went out and just dropped $20 on some simply saline to use based on recommendations from this thread. He's pretty pissed since it tastes like nasty chemicals. Clearly not appropriate for doing what people in this thread might want to use it for. How could no one notice this?

Strange, chemical taste huh? Must be from the AEROSOL DELIVERY SYSTEM! They should call it simply saline and aerosol.

SWIM even tried making some of his own saline to be sure, and the homemade stuff tasted perfect. Don't buy this for that.