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ifonly
15-06-2008, 07:37
if you have liwuid methadone from a clinic, just drink it. i have shot personally but not without putting all of it through a .22 micron wheel filter first.

also to designed reality, in my personal experience (and i have a lot) IVing methadone is one of the greatest things ever. the rush is amazing, it feels great, and its simple, easy, and clean. i would take it over good clean dope anyday.

then again, this is only if you know what you're doing. there is a lot mroe potential to fuck your shit up hard with methadone than there is with say, dope.

anyway just wanted to clarify that sometimes it most definately *is* worth iving methadone. dont make such large assumptions :)

designed_reality
15-06-2008, 20:17
you're probably the only person on this forum that will attest to it giving you a "rush" , which seems almost impossible considering methadone doesn't fit the 4th part of what i like to call rachamim's 4 part opiate guide;

you would take a methadone "rush" over good clean dope any day? Have you ever done dope? unless you have methadone ampoules, i'm afraid i'd have to believe the many many other qualified users that have done this multiple times and stated that there is little if any rush, regardless of the amount being shot, and regardless of the formulation.*

*the only exception being the overseas methadone ampoules that are made for IV usage.

i'm not making a "large" assumption, i'm going off an incredible amount of information from hardcore users.

my last comment to you, "ifonly" , is that if IV'ing methadone works well for you, then great. However, in the essence of harm reduction, you saying: (quote "that sometimes it most definately *is* worth iving methadone." endquote) is a poor message, because the benefits never outweigh the risks with this certain drug.

smackem
15-06-2008, 21:13
you're probably the only person on this forum that will attest to it giving you a "rush" , which seems almost impossible considering methadone doesn't fit the 4th part of what i like to call rachamim's 4 part opiate guide;

you would take a methadone "rush" over good clean dope any day? Have you ever done dope? unless you have methadone ampoules, i'm afraid i'd have to believe the many many other qualified users that have done this multiple times and stated that there is little if any rush, regardless of the amount being shot, and regardless of the formulation.*

*the only exception being the overseas methadone ampoules that are made for IV usage.

i'm not making a "large" assumption, i'm going off an incredible amount of information from hardcore users.

my last comment to you, "ifonly" , is that if IV'ing methadone works well for you, then great. However, in the essence of harm reduction, you saying: (quote "that sometimes it most definately *is* worth iving methadone." endquote) is a poor message, because the benefits never outweigh the risks with this certain drug.


He isn't the only one to attest to methadones rush. Negrogesic said he was receiving 260mg of methadone IV in the hospital and said the rush was great and lasted for hours.

HYDRO_CHRONIC
15-06-2008, 22:19
LISTEN I HAVE SHOT METHODONE 10MG TABDS WITH THE m ON THEM FOR A FEW YEARS,!!!

yea there have been breaks but i have gon 6 months banging 50-150mg a day ,i have found unless you have a reserve there is no rush !!!?? wtf and trust me there is a rush cause i hardly ever get high just by methadone alone anymore it just costs to much for me aroundhere

dont fuck with the orANGE WAFErs the generic whites are shootable without wasting your time

you will be doing MULTIPLE injections unless 7you have a 2-3cc rig ,its hard on your veins

i have found i can go 2-3 days before i feel the slightest W/d ,back when i was banging 100-150mg a day for like 3 months straight i got curt off and it took 7 days for me to get slightly sick and it was all IV use

my injections always look right damn clear ,but wirthout a micron filter there will be particles and i know my liver hates me wich reminds me i need milk thistle

so unless you get the 10mg tabs i wouldnt bother unless you a IV junky like me ,the round 10mg tabs arent very good imo i have alot of experience with this guys so ask away i strill have all my veins ,etc ewtc but i take care of them by bicep curls and forearm exercises,although i work everything but the bicep curl tricep /forearm workouts keep your veins rather healthy

if you got the wafers buy som micron filters

ifonly
16-06-2008, 05:34
you're probably the only person on this forum that will attest to it giving you a "rush" , which seems almost impossible considering methadone doesn't fit the 4th part of what i like to call rachamim's 4 part opiate guide;

Many experienced opiate users just like myself can attest to the great rush that methadone provides. just because you havent experienced a rush doesnt mean that it's impossible. this is starting off to be one of the more ignorant posts i've seen, and i've been around here a while.



you would take a methadone "rush" over good clean dope any day? Have you ever done dope? unless you have methadone ampoules, i'm afraid i'd have to believe the many many other qualified users that have done this multiple times and stated that there is little if any rush, regardless of the amount being shot, and regardless of the formulation.*

*the only exception being the overseas methadone ampoules that are made for IV usage.


yes i've done dope before. your question actually made me snort at my keyboard. i wont go any furthur there. You talk about the statements of many 'other users'? you can't be telling me that your posting in an IV methadone thread without having IVed methadone yourself? i hope not, because the irony would be unbelievable.

as for the other statements, you say that they are 'regardless of the formation'? Please, find me someone that has used physeptone pain management tablets IV and says there is no rush. After that, find me "many many" other qualified users that say the same thing, and then get back to me. please dont make such pathetic claims in your post without thinking it through first.

additionally, difference in formation is vitally important.
"The diskettes are designed to stay bound to an insoluble matrix until the acid in your stomach hydrolyzes it (frees it)"

- from http://www.methadone.org/namadocuments/es05basic_pharmacology_2.html

this is exactly why IVing doesnt work with many of the methadone maintenance formations - which is what the huge majority of methadone comes from. I get pain management pills, which dissolve in 30seconds and filter to a consistancy and colour indistiguishable from water. I have said this many times, but it does not seem to sink in. what is wrong with you?




i'm not making a "large" assumption, i'm going off an incredible amount of information from hardcore users.


incredible amount of information from hardcore users? Your information has completely inconsistant variables - you do not seem to realise the difference in medication formations, and thus your 'information' is invalid.
As for hardcore users, i pity your logic. Some of the most 'hardcore' users ive met were also the most worst informed. experience means nothing if you have always had a certain belief - because you will always assume that you are right.

I am currently studying in the medical field and have recently began my unit on pharmacology. I also work in the medical field in an area that uses one of the largest amounts of pain medication anywhere. I am not just hypothesising here. Even if your users were knowledgable, it is still pointless because they're probably using different formations. and even if, by some wild stretch of the imagination, you had somehow valid reports from other people, the fact remains that people react to different drugs differently, and making idiotic claims like "almost impossible to get a rush" is still just that - idiotic.

for the record also, every person i have known in real life that has IVed the methadone formation that i use, has reported an identical, euphoric rush. Some say they still prefer the dope rush, but that is just personal preference.



my last comment to you, "ifonly" , is that if IV'ing methadone works well for you, then great. However, in the essence of harm reduction, you saying: (quote "that sometimes it most definately *is* worth iving methadone." endquote) is a poor message, because the benefits never outweigh the risks with this certain drug.


You have no idea what you are talking about, and have only served to make a complete fool of yourself here. I stand by what I said, and would advise you to please apply at least some intelligence to your posts on this board before pressing the submit button. It will same me a whole lot of time next time, as i dont like seeing morons roam free on bluelight.

peace

HYDRO_CHRONIC
20-06-2008, 20:36
i wouldnt exactly call the rush from methadone great ,dont get me wrong i look forward to it every day but it isnt no different than most rushes ,they all have a certain characteristic thast affects people with heroin and oxy my knees tingle wildly then my stomach the i get goosebumps


methadone is a rush i have just grown to like i can only remember it bing OVERBEARING a few times and yea i have to say it was rather strong as in felt like i was gonna pass out kinda fealing but all my joints tingle with methadone IV my stomach growls no kidding !!! and i feel a slight rush in the head and most of the time goosebumps ,but mostly my stomach feels really weird when it hits

i cant tell you how much makes me feel like what cause i stick like 50-10 10mg tabs in a big spoon filter and draw with a 1cc rig so the dose is split up and i still get a rush,but i would take morphine or heroin or oxy over it if i could afford the amout it takes of those drugs to keep me satisfied ,

ifonly
22-06-2008, 05:57
yeah chronic the methadone rush is definately rougher than other rushes. its less pure euphoria and more just physical fucking. its a very physical rush; its hard to explain. but its there. the fact of the matter is that methadone in many forms is simply not suitable to inject.

however, in the forms that are appropriate, it's just another opiate and thus provides a rush and all else that comes with injecting opiates.


xeracismx how did it go?

HYDRO_CHRONIC
23-06-2008, 03:24
well me and alot of people on here can attest that ,well let me take that back for me there is no rush till i get a reserve built up a "reserve" wich took bout a good week or so

now i wish i could get back on bue(ifwishes were quarters though ,huh?)

ifonly
24-06-2008, 05:57
^^ if only ;)

negrogesic
24-06-2008, 06:45
Injecting the oral solution, even if filtered, is very unpleasant (burning at injection site). Plus, if you have any kind of tolerance you will need very large syringes with butterflies. Also, there can also be a rather pronounced burning under the tongue when injecting any quantity of methadone oral solution. I truly hate thinking about injecting that shit (or anything for that matter). Its is also quite impractical to use the 10mg tablets, unless your tolerance is very low.

Again, the rush was good at very high doses, but far more suprising was the incredibly long duration of the peak. However, even intravenously, it still takes a few minutes to truly peak, but once it does, it stays there for hours.

Nothing even remotely similar occured when injecting the oral solution, but then it was never feasible to use massive doses, as who wants to IV 20ml+. Don't try it...

Ifonly, what doses are you using?

leftwing
24-06-2008, 06:51
he's said to me he's used up to 70-80mg, distributing the tablets and solution in a few spoons for prep, for practical reasons. sorry to stomp on your words B-man, but you went offline. :)

negrogesic
24-06-2008, 08:11
^^^All these online bromances get confusing....

leftwing
24-06-2008, 08:18
we live near each other and talk over i.m. im confused to how it's a bromance.

ifonly
24-06-2008, 13:08
maybe its all those circlejerks we get into leftwing? oh wait

anyway necro what is this burning you speak of? i have over 6 months of heavy IV methadone experience and nothing ever came remotely close to a burning sensation or feelings under the tongue. i didnt even get the taste in my throat like i did with nice heroin. ( :( )

with a lowish tolerance i could fit 70mg into a 5ml syringe (actually fits a little over 6ml of liquid), which is easy to use. above that i have used up to 120mg in one of two ways. first is a standard 10ml syringe, with a 25 gauge tip. this was ok but pretty cumbersome, and u shudnt use needles that big unless your very confident. i am studying iv use etc so i know my stuff, and it was ok, but still squeezing 10ml out of a 25gauge tip takes a long time and a fair bit of force. otherwise yes a butterfly can be used, which is fine cause i like butterfly spikes anyway. they are very very practical and easy to use. (a partner or medical tape helps tho)
*also you could just do two shots with a 5ml barrel but why when butterflies are so fun?

read this thread. ive already posted it many times but nobody reads it and then asks questions which are all answered in this thread. its not too long. its a good read. read it.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=368292

TripleG
26-06-2008, 00:01
I'll throw my 2 cents in on this topic..
Yes, I've IV'd Methadone, several times, and while the rush isn't great, there is a Rush. I'm talking the white 10 mg rectangle shaped tabs with M on one side, etc.

I never do more than 10mg at a time.. any more and the solution seems to get 'thick' (clear, but thick, think thin corn syrup). I learned this once with 15mg.

My method.. Obviously sterilize, use clean equipment...
Crush 10 mg, cover with hot water, stir with plunger. Filter twice with qtip cotton tops, and the result is a very clear liquid(just like water). Draw up, register, and release. Also lick/suck the remaining filter and residue from the spoon.

Why you ask? Well, I have access to it for one. I have no access to regular dope (this is small town Montana mind you)... and I'd done Dilaudid several times a while ago and LOVED that rush, and just tried the same/similar method with the Methadone with no ill effects.

I am in NO WAY saying this is safe. I'm either lucky, or my method has worked for me.
2 Cents.. and out

Ham-milton
26-06-2008, 00:38
you really don't want to shoot up take homes!

Tchort
26-06-2008, 01:43
There are a lot of people who shoot the 5mg and 10mg Methadone tablets, and those that shoot the 40mg wafers and various orange/red Methadose brand liquids.

Britain, Holland, and other European countries and possibly elsewhere in the world you can be prescribed Methadone ampules for either IM or SC injection (everyone IV's it, the doc's prescribe it for SC or IM on paper). Some patients are maintained on injectable Methadone for years.

So, Methadone is shootable, and plenty of people worldwide do it. As far as safety and comfort go, pure Methadone ampoules still produce a burn at the injection site most of the time, as well as irritation and possibly redness and swelling. Methadone pills are some of the most unsafe pills that are regularly shot. Lets say OxyContin and Dilaudid are the easiest/"safest" of the RX pills to inject, Methadone is on the bottom (shooting pills is never safe). There are those that rank IV Methadone pills (5mg/10mg) as their drug of choice. Read up on the Diconal phenom in the UK back in the 70s. Dipap is almost identical to Methadone, chronic IV use leads to gangrene, amputation, collapsed veins, severe abscesses, etc as a regular occurance. Shooting Diconal into the femerol vein on the top of the penis became extremely common among male Diconal addicts, as they ran out of veins everywhere else.

The only thing less safe for addicts to shoot is Suboxone pills (which is also widespread, look at India and France).

leftwing
26-06-2008, 01:43
maybe its all those circlejerks we get into leftwing? oh wait

must be hey man. i got first dibs in a few weeks for reach around

BingeBoy
26-06-2008, 02:10
There are a lot of people who shoot the 5mg and 10mg Methadone tablets, and those that shoot the 40mg wafers and various orange/red Methadose brand liquids.

Britain, Holland, and other European countries and possibly elsewhere in the world you can be prescribed Methadone ampules for either IM or SC injection (everyone IV's it, the doc's prescribe it for SC or IM on paper). Some patients are maintained on injectable Methadone for years.

So, Methadone is shootable, and plenty of people worldwide do it. As far as safety and comfort go, pure Methadone ampoules still produce a burn at the injection site most of the time, as well as irritation and possibly redness and swelling. Methadone pills are some of the most unsafe pills that are regularly shot. Lets say OxyContin and Dilaudid are the easiest/"safest" of the RX pills to inject, Methadone is on the bottom (shooting pills is never safe). There are those that rank IV Methadone pills (5mg/10mg) as their drug of choice. Read up on the Diconal phenom in the UK back in the 70s. Dipap is almost identical to Methadone, chronic IV use leads to gangrene, amputation, collapsed veins, severe abscesses, etc as a regular occurance. Shooting Diconal into the femerol vein on the top of the penis became extremely common among male Diconal addicts, as they ran out of veins everywhere else.

The only thing less safe for addicts to shoot is Suboxone pills (which is also widespread, look at India and France).

Suboxone doesn't exist in france there is onlt subutex which is considerabkly safer to inject (the generics are smaller than s novsrtis ritalin 10 mg) and doesn't contain naloxone


oh and methadone even ampules is not 100% safe to inject because there is something in it which attacks red blood cells and it makes the blood clot so there is always a risk of thrombosis

I used to get my methadone syrup in 5 mg per ml with no colouring and no sugar added , i have to admit that when you don't have anything else it's quite a nice fdeeling injected no big rush ime but still nice warm feeling