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TheTwighlight
29-03-2011, 06:35
^ Yeah, it's crazy, the 450mg pregabalin + the 3,600mg gabapentin I take every day would have gotten me TRASHED without a tolerance back in the day. Now, it sometimes makes me feel a little "off", but nothing much. My short-term memory is fucked. But that's small price to pay for what it does for my fibromyalgia, migraines, and anxiety. Seriously, I've been off benzos and opioids for a while now, and those two together cannot even TOUCH what the Lyrica/Neurontin do for me. Shit is amazing. Hopefully they are working on a super-pregabalin now. I consider pregabalin to be super-gabapentin. However, they both have their similarities, yet they have their own individual benefits as well. I wouldn't mind being on these two the rest of my life.

And I totally agree with the whole things being clearer and more colorful on pregabalin, for sure. Almost like "mushroom come-up" type shit.

comatoserct
29-03-2011, 07:30
My insurance covered it and I'm on it for anxiety.


what? Pregabalin? Isn't that because you have fibromyalgia?

Zarathustra1313
01-04-2011, 07:48
Just got done reading this thread. Lots of Info for sure.

I was prescribed it a couple years ago (gabapentin/neurontin, orange guys not sure if theres powder in them or capsules or what) for back pain. Still have a S load. What would the dose be for helping opiate WD's and are there any I'll effects mixing gabapentin and adderall? I have been taking 2 or 3 30mg addys a day the past couple to get through.

Thanks.

Zarathustra1313
02-04-2011, 06:08
Sooo I took 1200mg gabapentin this morning and about a hour after that took 60mg of addy. The gab kicked in first and gave me some slight euphoria and was pretty decent. Then the addy kicked in. For the next 4-5 hours I felt weird. Speeding but also sedated feeling and my vision was really streaky and plain strange. I also could barely feel my face/mouth, not tingly numb or anything just very low feeling for the 4-6 hours. I may try it again at 600mg gab dose but I doubt it. Not the best feeling out there.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
02-04-2011, 06:12
what? Pregabalin? Isn't that because you have fibromyalgia?

Well I do have fibromyalgia but I was originally prescribed if for anxiety.

chromedreams
04-04-2011, 05:38
(sorry if too long) hi everyone....1st post hope not a drag......been a long time user (dont yet know abreviations).....opiates, meths, benzos,weed and everything else dabbled in...I preface that because I love neurontin more than any drug in the world...honestly..sometimes.....thats the problem...right now I take no illegal drugs went to detox/rehab and used neurontin to get me through benzo/opiate withdrawel and it saved my life....great for w/d

Now I am using neurontin to feel good with (get high)....sometimes it works well, really well...sometimes not......I could take 800 mg one day and feel so eurphoric and one day take 3000 and feel stupid...of course ive tried any and all combonation upside down and backward...
with soda..without soda..empty stomach/full stomach..

does anyone know how to use this and get the best out of it....some comments here make me wonder if any chemists are on board cuz i would love some help...I have much more i could say of N but post is too long but would love this topic to not fade away too fast...thanks

fryingsquirrel
04-04-2011, 05:49
Neurontin works best if you take it over time, like if you take 3000 mgs take 600 mgs an hour for 5 hours rather than all at once. Naproxyn (aleve) is supposed to potentiate it, although I never notice much difference. The main thing is you can't take recreational doses daily or you will buid tolerance very quickly.

Welcome to BL, BTW

TheTwighlight
07-04-2011, 20:50
I can understand, man, because I am dependent on both gabapentin and pregabalin. However, I do not abuse them and I take them as prescribed. They really have no "high" type effect on me anymore. I've been on gabapentin for 7 years, and pregabalin on and off for about 4 years. The thing is, they work for their intended purposes...fibromyalgia, migraines, and anxiety. But I have abused both extensively, on their own, as well as in any combination you can probably name. They are a bitch and a blessing. Getting off them is harder than probably every drug I've ever been hooked on - which is pretty much everything. Good luck to you. Just watch out, the shit will catch you off guard.

pr0d1gy
07-04-2011, 22:08
Gabapentin is quite nice. I find it much more euphoric and less sedating then benzodiazapine. Its a very good anti-anxiety drug but its like pulling teeth to get prescribed it for that. My psychiatrist was willing to prescribe daily xanax but not neurotin which is arguably much safer and less addicting.

chromedreams
08-04-2011, 04:15
Neurontin is great for social anxiety...4me anyway....I notice how I make causal conversation with people in the most unusual places....I am witty , quick on my feet...even charming..4real....my friends , family have noted this and often seem/look astonished at me.......very intersesing drug...i LOVE IT..

little to no withdrawel....Was taken approx 3000 mg day to cold turkey...was very irritable...which to me isnt signifacant after gg through many opiate WD's and a benzo WD

but it is weird and cant always get the same affect....soda helps...dosing is important.. easy to obtain...easier than lyrica i would imagine

clayden
16-04-2011, 21:01
Gabapentin highs vary from person to person. I love the high personally and it has a psychedelic like effect for me. I take 1.2gs and feel like I just toked a bowl of chronic. Its like a head high for me, but mixed with a body high. The first time I popped two 600mg pills (1200mg or 1.2gs) I felt very happy and talkative. Music sounded better, colors were brighter, my thought process was altered.... it feels almost exactly like a pot high for me. It lasts a long time, and the high is more controllable, you can talk fine if you want.... balance is messed up however. Anyway, after the euphoric feelings started to leave I began to feel drowsy. Sleepy, and I wanted to crash. I forced myself to stay up though and then the high turned psychedelic (approximately 4 or more hours). I was talking to my reflection in the mirror, laughing to myself, and when I laid down in my bed I let my mind wonder. I saw blue lights in the shape of dolphins coming down from my ceiling, I saw an upside down Christmas tree when I closed my eyes. Use gabapentin with pot and for me it is much like a dreamy high. Incredible experience for me, but after a few hours I began hallucinating and losing touch with reality.

SinisterMuffin
03-06-2011, 01:42
Well, this is disappointing. I wish I had checked into this/heard of this about a month or so ago. Back in February I was given a prescription for Gabapentin (to help my recently diagnosed fibromyalgia) - one 100mg capsule, twice a day. I'd take one as soon as I got up, and take one just before going to bed. I never got a euphoric feeling or anything from it, just lagginess and a bit of vertigo...but I wonder if that only developed because I was on a daily dose.

Unfortunately, I cannot try a higher one-time dose or something to see if there would be a difference because my doctor took me off of it (because of the side effects) a month or two ago and I got rid of the bottle since I "had no more use for it." Oh, boy, do I regret that now! Especially since I've heard/read that its effects can be similar to MDMA...

Has anyone else experienced dizziness, vertigo, or a sort of brain/cognitive lag? If so, did you only notice it after prolonged or daily use? I think that I may have only developed the side effects after being on it for an extended period of time, so if I could get nice and euphoric effects from it once a week or something, I might try getting my doctor to prescribe it to me again.

Oh, and does anyone know of any interactions it may have with a low dose of Nortriptyline at its (Gabapentin's) higher doses? My doctor prescribed the two together before, but both at relatively low doses. Now she just has me on Nortripyline at >50mg a day, so I don't know if there would be any difficulties if I did try taking a large dose of Gabapentin with it...

Thanks for anything you're able to tell me!

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
03-06-2011, 01:46
Well, this is disappointing. I wish I had checked into this/heard of this about a month or so ago. Back in February I was given a prescription for Gabapentin (to help my recently diagnosed fibromyalgia) - one 100mg capsule, twice a day. I'd take one as soon as I got up, and take one just before going to bed. I never got a euphoric feeling or anything from it, just lagginess and a bit of vertigo...but I wonder if that only developed because I was on a daily dose.

Can't comment on your questions but the reason you never felt anything was because you were taking 100mg x2 a day. That is INCREDIBLY low. You could of had a better judgment if you were to try 600-900mg

SinisterMuffin
03-06-2011, 06:16
Yeah, I figure part of not feeling the euphoria or anything was the low dose... but I also had that vertigo and everything, so I don't know if I should risk taking more in case that sort of side effect also increases without knowing more, as I'm pretty sure it'd be too unpleasant for me to enjoy it otherwise. :\

whitemilk661
03-06-2011, 08:19
I"m just starting to peak on 30 mg of hydrocodone right now - wondering if anybody has any knowledge on the effects of gabapentin + opiates?

Is this i a dangerous combo or should I try it?

shpongle1987
03-06-2011, 09:38
adderall and neurontin go together like two peas in a pod :)

laCster
03-06-2011, 21:51
I"m just starting to peak on 30 mg of hydrocodone right now - wondering if anybody has any knowledge on the effects of gabapentin + opiates?

Is this i a dangerous combo or should I try it?

yess, it will synergize with your hydrocodone and increase the pain relief and euphoria. this is one of my favorite combos... i like to add in some kpin or xanies but thats sketch and you have to be careful!!


adderall and neurontin go together like two peas in a pod :)

im on 30mg addy right now (insnuf) +400mgs lyrica + a coupl ebong hits of hash + 1mg klonopin (potentiated by tagamet) and its really euphoric. no worries in the world, im pleasantly far away %)

laCster
03-06-2011, 21:51
edit: double post sorry!

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
03-06-2011, 22:02
I"m just starting to peak on 30 mg of hydrocodone right now - wondering if anybody has any knowledge on the effects of gabapentin + opiates?

Is this i a dangerous combo or should I try it?

Gabapentin/Pregabalin with opiates is a good combination if you are seeking euphoria. Have fun and be safe.

SinisterMuffin
04-06-2011, 07:41
I've never done opiates, so I don't really know how to guesstimate this... but is the euphoria one gets from the gabapentin/pregabalin + opiates anything like the euphoria from MDMA or is it completely different? If it's different, is there any possibility you could try to explain how it feels? (I know that last question is a super hard one to answer...)

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
04-06-2011, 21:25
I've never done opiates, so I don't really know how to guesstimate this... but is the euphoria one gets from the gabapentin/pregabalin + opiates anything like the euphoria from MDMA or is it completely different? If it's different, is there any possibility you could try to explain how it feels? (I know that last question is a super hard one to answer...)

No, the high from opiates is NOTHING like MDMA, if you take opiates expecting it do be like MDMA or any other amphetamine drugs you will be disappointed. Opiates provide pure, and what I believe to be, true euphoria. Its a different high, that's an understatement. They can also be an acquired taste so you may need to try them more than once to catch the true feeling of an opiate. Pregabalin can feel somewhat similar to MDMA. Sort of like MDMA without the stimulation and pure euphoria.

TheTwighlight
04-06-2011, 22:41
Dude, I had been sober 6 days shy of 5 months, and I smoked a shit ton of chron last night and was tripping my fucking balls off. It was awesome.

Today I've taken 1.05g of pregabalin thus far + 2.4g gabapentin. I'm feeling pretty good, and a little dumb. But I'm still feeling the weed from 12 hours ago! I got stoned as hell. Lyrica feels damn good, man. Damn good. Wonderful mood.

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
04-06-2011, 23:30
Lyrica seems to prolong the effects of the other drugs that you take. For instance, the effects of opiates last longer when you combine the two. So do benzodiazepines. I don't really know about stimulants. My Adderall XR still lasts 8 hours whether I'm on the Lyrica or not. But marijuana, depressants & opiates have prolonged & enhanced effects when combined. Good stuff. Pretty expensive though. I know someone who was selling his 300mg capsules at $8 each

Ninae
05-06-2011, 23:23
Now I am using neurontin to feel good with (get high)....sometimes it works well, really well...sometimes not......I could take 800 mg one day and feel so eurphoric and one day take 3000 and feel stupid...of course ive tried any and all combonation upside down and backward...
with soda..without soda..empty stomach/full stomach..

does anyone know how to use this and get the best out of it....some comments here make me wonder if any chemists are on board cuz i would love some help...I have much more i could say of N but post is too long but would love this topic to not fade away too fast...thanks

Yea, I think this drug is a nice suprise to anyone who tries it. For my first time I'd come across a box of 100 600 mgs (i.e. stole them from a pensioner who had a shitload they weren't using anymore and were expirering soon). Took five of them, after a few hours felt a pleasent euphoria and had to lie down on the coach, then in not too long fell asleep for 5 hours or so (seems to be a feature of high dose gabapentin). Tried it again the next day but got next to no effects so concluded it was something that only worked the first time (guess I was expecting it to work like opiates).

Same thing happened with Lyrica, wasted loads of pills feeling no effects trying to make it work, then accidentally discovered you NEED TO LEAVE SOME DAYS IN BETWEEN (at least one day for Lyrica and two for Gabapentin), at least for the most of us, when I tried it again after a week's break. I would take ten at a time (300 and 600 mgs) trying to make it work. Remember the first time I got Gabapentin to work again, got up early and took 6000 mgs, didn't expect anything, forgot about it, then in 4 hours it hit me like BAM! and I was incredibly stoned. Never been that out of my head on it, maybe 1-2 times, and unluckily for me my landlord had to come for some stuff and I was unable to string sentences together or even come out with the words I was trying to say. Total cognitive impairment, and was swiftly kicked out of that apartment, but had a great time.

Then used it recreationally every 3 days for 3 months or so, after learning it takes two days in between to really work. I would take 10 600 mgs then top up the dose with maybe five more so I could feel it hit again when the first started to decline, it's not really as long-lasting as Lyrica. This was great, but tolerance steadily grew and at the end of it I could barely feel the effects. And now I've been regularly using Lyrica I can't get high on it anymore. The only use I have for it is to potentiate opiates, as an anti-depressants taken every other day, or for detoxing/maintaining when I'm addicted to Lyrica, which it is very effective for.

So, yes, it can be abused, when spaced out. I think doctors count on that you won't find out it's abusable, by starting you out on a low dose and making you take it every day, and most probably won't. I have read in medical journals they have little potential for abuse because recreational effects of both stop after a few days. Shows how much they know, but it's more for those who like to experiment with their medication, I guess, and most they'd be prescribed to still have no idea. So counting on most people's ignorance they're not abusable.

This shouldn't last long, though the name Neurontin just isn't catchy enough, I think, and Lyrica just doesn't sound like a drug (Valium rules there, though does nothing for me personally).

Ninae
05-06-2011, 23:52
I don't find gabapentin addictive at all, since it doesn't make me high, which is why i like it so much for my anxiety

Pregabalin is like a different creature tho. It feels like a narcotic, whereas gabapentin is quite subtle, like a nootropic


This is completely dose-dependent, as well as dependent on tolerance - see my report below.

A FIRST TIME user of Gabapentin who had never tried Pregabalin could certainly get high on it on a 3000-6000 mg dose (which I personally needed to get what I would call a high), and if they made sure to space their doses out a few days in between instead of taking every day. As many don't follow this route they might never discover the real potential of Gabapentin. And although the Lyrica high is certainly better and stronger at equal tolerance, you will be much higher your first few times on high-dose Gabapentin than you can get from Lyrica once tolerance over extended time has set in, no matter what dose. When real tolerance to the effects of Lyrica has set in 3000 mgs would be a good dose, but really expensive.

I think both can work as a kind of nootropic at lower doses. Mainly, they have an anti-depressant and stimulant effect without really getting you high, which can be very valuable for some, and they help you sleep. I don't really need to take any sleeping medication after a day of Lyrica. Low-dose Gabapentin I need to combine with Seroquel, while large enough doses can put me to sleep on their own. I find them to be far more valuable to help you sleep than anything from the benzo or z-drug family. On these, you'll have to wait to fall asleep more naturally, and can wake up before you've had enough sleep. L/G are just stronger Gaba drugs and FORCES you to fall asleep. If you don't want to go to sleep you literally have to fight it. So they are more effective.

laCster
07-06-2011, 16:21
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=470294&page=2

this is a good thread talking about gabapentin....most of the people who post in here agree that doses should be staggered to get the maximum effect. i suggest 100-150mgs every 45mins-1hr

Fixed5217
04-10-2011, 22:06
after reading alot(and experimenting) I understand the divergent nature of people's opinion on this particular substance.

It can be euphoric, or just plain blase. It has to do with dose and combinations mainly.
By itself, a rather high dosage is needed to feel anything really, though lower doses are good to combine with benzos etc.

weed does go rather well with this--and probably is the only thing that has brought it close to helping me understand the comparisons to mdma. It brings you from a near baseline, slightly off feeling to one that would accompany a very low dose of mdma, but without jaw clenching, stimulation or euphoria really (minus what weed would bring you already).

alcohol can be interesting in combination. the general consensus is that alcohol should be avoided when taking gbp--I have mixed feelings about this. In low doses of each, it's rather nice. However, the other evening after dosing gbp during the day (1200mg around noon) drinking 12 hours later really wasn't a great idea. I didn't notice anything different, till i awoke the next day to find the kitchen trashed in some sort of weird "step-brothers-esqe" sleepwalking incident. It appeared as if i had started to prepare about 12 different items, to cook or to bake--and then opened two boxes of cheerios to put into the toaster oven. I found some basil in the fridge nearly a week later. Don't remember any of it. I'm usually neat when i cook, even at blackout point. And this:http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/574800-%28GHB-Phenibut-Gabapentin-Alcohol-...%29-Experienced-Heavy-Metal-Salad.

i don't think i'll take any more by itself or in combination with anything as i don't find it very worthwhile--I will save it for any sort of withdrawal symptoms i may encounter in the future as that has been pretty universally verified as effective.

Swillyboy
05-10-2011, 00:38
I slugged some Niquil, took 2000mg of GABAPENTIN first then after 1 hour a Roxy (30mg =of oxycodone).

Feel good, enjoying my puppy and doing dumb ass chores. Really hard to focus my eyes on anything. Double vision & trippy effects are amusing.....

Swillyboy
05-10-2011, 00:58
It basically fells like drunk opiate ride...... not sure if adds to the opiate in a positive way but its definaltey different. Certainly a stay at home combo .... loopy doopy dooo

laCster
05-10-2011, 03:29
how much nyquil did you take? nyquil contains APAP, DXM, and doxylamine succinate. apap and doxy are drugs that you do not want to abuse. if you took the recommended dose than yah whatever, but chugging nyquil is a big no-no.

Fixed5217
05-10-2011, 04:27
how much nyquil did you take? nyquil contains APAP, DXM, and doxylamine succinate. apap and doxy are drugs that you do not want to abuse. if you took the recommended dose than yah whatever, but chugging nyquil is a big no-no.

i was not aware that nyquil contained doxy, i thought it was just a dxm product people used for robo-tripping; the formula with doxy would knock someone out way before a trip could start, that stuff is definitely a potent sedative, and not a good idea to combine with gabapentin at high doses

effie
05-10-2011, 13:52
^ yeah, and you don't want to be swigging something containing APAP either..

This is an old thread and doesn't really fit with the way we try to run BDD now (take a look at the "state of BDD" sticky at the top of the forum) so I'm going to close it. If anyone has a specific question relating to gabapentin, or Nyquil, or anything then please feel free to start your own thread. PM me if you have any questions :)

Closed.

Mugz
05-10-2011, 17:13
Thanks for closing this one effie, there is a decent amount of information in this thread so I am going to shove it in the archive rather than let it die.