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Silenced
10-01-2011, 03:42
i cant figure out how to get to coating off to snort these dang opana its driving me crazy pls help

ER? razor blade and peel! they peel so easily.

Nexus298
10-01-2011, 08:09
From my experiences oxymorphone highs are more along the lines of an Heroin ,Diludid ,or Morphine high as apposed to the more stimulatory high of oxycontin.
Also I would range 10mg (snorted) opana about equivilant to 50 mg (oral) oxy.

arthunter888
11-01-2011, 02:23
^ Right but it has such clarity. It has the security blanket of morphine or heroin, yet the smooth clarity of mind as with oxy.

AgnosticBaptist
11-01-2011, 04:07
ER? razor blade and peel! they peel so easily.

Suck on the thing for a few seconds and the coating will wipe right off on a paper towel/shirt/toilet paper/back of someone's coat on the bus...:D

boyshoots2thrill
11-01-2011, 09:00
so this was probably asked somewhere in the thread but its like 20 something pages now..lazy, guilty.

anywho. i have access to opanas now and im really curious about trying them. i have a high tolerance to opiates. i bang about half gram to a gram of dope a day. pretty good tar. Would it even be worth trying? if so, how much do you think i should start with?

im 6 foot d00d around 250 pounds..(just throwing that in there, im a big guy)

I wouldl most likely be shooting these also

muvolution
11-01-2011, 20:46
you won't be shooting anything if they are ER's. Most abuse-resistant pill i've ever seen.
If they are IR's 10's or 5's try 10mg which will be equal to 100mg of morphine in efficacy. The dope you are shooting could be anywhere from 10-90% pure, so be careful. If you are shooting 500mg and it's 10% pure, then one 10mg opana would match that.

baschoen
18-01-2011, 10:22
has anyone ever tried to make a nasal spray w their opanas? If so could you outline the process? Thanks.

HT harm redux
18-01-2011, 20:29
I was wondering the same thing. I hope someone on here has the answers we are looking for. as of now i just crush it to a fine powder and run it up my nose. it seems to give me a decent buzz but when i blow it out later i get a nose bleed so i dont htink thats such a good idea. Ive heard of people spraying their noses first with saline then snorting their dose. claiming better absorbtion. but hopefully someone will answer this post.

muvolution
19-01-2011, 04:05
You cannot make a nasal spray with the ER's. The IR's are where it's at.

...well you can. Extract with sulfuric acid, precipitate out non soluble particles, filter finely, add water and ether, filter, draw off ether, precipitate the OXYmorphone withe baking soda, let evaporate, mix into a nasal spray bottle.

dokomo
19-01-2011, 04:33
You might want to check this (http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=430340) thread.

-->merged into Opana ER Mega-thread

SoFarAway
19-01-2011, 17:05
I was recently prescribed Opana ER and it does the strangest things to my body. I'd take it late morning/early afternoon and when I'd try to sleep at night I'd get these rushes of energy in my head over and over and over. My body would tingle, mostly down my arms into the fingertips. I'd also occasionally get these electric shock sensations in my head. I'd lie there not sleeping at all until I slipped into sleep paralysis.

It's incredibly frustrating because the drug helps my pain, helps my appetite, doesn't make me nauseous or too sleepy. But what on earth is wrong with my head? I refuse to take the pills because of the horrible symptoms when I try to sleep. I don't sleep.

I'm going to be having surgery in the next few months and it seems that all opiates hate me. Ugh. Recovery is impossible without them.

Does anyone have any idea what these rushes in my head could be? Electric shocks? Tingling? I mean, it can't be withdrawals from one pill, right?

=\

gatman
20-01-2011, 18:05
go on your p/c and read about opana er thay are not at all good to be snorting. fine dust from the pill gets into your lungs and will give you cancer nice right. now the round blue 5mil and round red 10mil you can snort and shoot these. but the 8 sided pills crush with your teeth and swpllow them.

SpunkySkunk347
21-01-2011, 00:48
Today I was lucky enough to obtain an Oxymorphone 20mg.
However, I made the mistake of eating the fuckin thing.
Right now, it doesn't even feel better than it would have to have eaten 30mg of oxycodone.
If only had read this thread beforehand, I could have had 10x more bang for my buck.

Edit: now I'm reading that you can't even crush it and snort it. This sucks. Worst no prices I ever spent in my life. Fucking bullshit

verso
21-01-2011, 04:19
see, this is really .... IMPORTANT.. for me, and my life! I've been snorting them for almost two years. and I would LOVE to read some FACT-BASED, studies, of any kind, that indicate that the similar ingredients (in the pc, for instance, that you reference) if those are really truly just as bad as for you as when they use them in a apill

doesn't logic dictate to us (or me at least) that a pill company is going to ... make their pills as safe as possible? ad I dont even mean to say, that they want to let us snort them. But, just, thata.... they wouldn't want to put an un-safe ingredient like this in there.

because they can't predict what's going to happen years down th eroad, when drug interacts with who knows or or EVEN when addicts begin snorting them.

why hasn't there been ANY big time, professional literature, that suggests what so many of us here at Bluelight have already made decisions about? Is OPANA ER really truly going to kill you if you snort it??

I'm not sure anyone here can answer that for you. If there's no literature, no studies, then it's anyone's guess.

In my opinion, I just do not believe that snorting an ER every now and again will put an individual at any greater risk for developing silicosis or mesothelioma. But, on the other hand, snorting one or two regularly for an extended period of time? Yeah, that might do it.

muvolution
21-01-2011, 05:04
see, this is really .... IMPORTANT.. for me, and my life! I've been snorting them for almost two years. and I would LOVE to read some FACT-BASED, studies, of any kind, that indicate that the similar ingredients (in the pc, for instance, that you reference) if those are really truly just as bad as for you as when they use them in a apill

doesn't logic dictate to us (or me at least) that a pill company is going to ... make their pills as safe as possible? ad I dont even mean to say, that they want to let us snort them. But, just, thata.... they wouldn't want to put an un-safe ingredient like this in there.

because they can't predict what's going to happen years down th eroad, when drug interacts with who knows or or EVEN when addicts begin snorting them.

why hasn't there been ANY big time, professional literature, that suggests what so many of us here at Bluelight have already made decisions about? Is OPANA ER really truly going to kill you if you snort it??


they are designed to be ingested, not snorted. Endo has no responsibility to consider the needs or health of drug abusers or recreational drug users who use their medication in a manner inconsistent with the labeling.

If you use, lets say, a condom in a fashion inconsistent with it's labeling by trying to eat it, the manufacturer has no liability when you choke on it and die. Your choice, your fault, your responsibility.

muvolution
21-01-2011, 06:12
This is why I don't like megathreads... I can't get an answer when I need it.

it's because you annoy the shit out of everyone with multiple posts. there is an EDIT button.
and by looking at your post count, you should know that no prices are allowed.

....and it couldn't have been 10x stronger since you cannot shoot the ER's.

Alcohol increases the BA 270% over the indicated ROA which is oral - Opana has 10% BA orally, so 270% of that would be a BA of 27%.
I don't know what kind of math you are using to get those figures.
and I have no idea how much alcohol should be consumed with them or when to achieve the max BA boost.
I can tell you that the recommended amount of alcohol is none.

SpunkySkunk347
21-01-2011, 07:08
Prices? When I said "the worst cute, but no prices I ever spent", I was talking about these shitty ass shoes I bought! They're so uncomfortable!

I do apologize for the multiple posts, but I have to ask - are they really that annoying?

The reason I multiposted is because I'm posting from an iPhone, and I can't copy-paste things really, and many aspects of the forum interface simply wont work half the time, such as the edit function or the search engine. They just cause my browser to freeze up when I click on them the majority of the time

Jesus Christ, this forum would run smoother if there just WEREN'T any moderators.

"let's pile all the related threads into one big ass megathread with 5000 fucking posts in it!" yeah because THAT'S more organized, and makes it easier to find what you're looking for.... In this very thread even, there are people complaining that they can't find the post they're looking for because they don't remember what page it's on.

Sergeant Opana1
21-01-2011, 07:29
So i just heard about this cancer shit right now. I've been snorting/smoking about 30 mg a day for the past month. I smoked a decent amount of it, and my lungs feel all fucked up from smoking. I smoke cigarettes and a shitload of weed. I know it was bad, and now im going to stop smoking it forsure. But i was just had a couple questions that i was wondering. Apparently i have the chance of dying in about 5 years? I was just wondering how long of constant damage about would it take for you to get unhealable affects and for it to develop for 5 or so years and the chance of me getting scilosis? If someone could help me about and give me some information so that i can know more about what kind of damage i've done. When I heard about this i just tripped the fuck, i could just be really high and paranoid, but i would just like to know so i can feel better. If i have the chance of dying i would like to know too.

muvolution
21-01-2011, 08:49
So i just heard about this cancer shit right now. I've been snorting/smoking about 30 mg a day for the past month. I smoked a decent amount of it, and my lungs feel all fucked up from smoking. I smoke cigarettes and a shitload of weed. I know it was bad, and now im going to stop smoking it forsure. But i was just had a couple questions that i was wondering. Apparently i have the chance of dying in about 5 years? I was just wondering how long of constant damage about would it take for you to get unhealable affects and for it to develop for 5 or so years and the chance of me getting scilosis? If someone could help me about and give me some information so that i can know more about what kind of damage i've done. When I heard about this i just tripped the fuck, i could just be really high and paranoid, but i would just like to know so i can feel better. If i have the chance of dying i would like to know too.

you have a 100% chance of dying. at what age and of what cause, none of us can elucidate on. If you really want to know, you will go see a respiratory specialist who will do x-rays, maybe a cat scan, and if you are looking real bad a biopsy.
There is a thread on BL specifically regarding silicosis, do a search for silicosis, then you can start to get a more specific idea of the risks and where you are at. good luck.

Spunky Skunk - Yeah, the multiple posts are annoying. Why can't you find anything in this thread? Oh yeah, there's a ton of unnecessary posts where there should be questions or answers to specific or general questions. Again, in your last post you failed to ask a question, or contribute useful facts.

A great idea though, no moderators, so when someone tries to source or sell or posts prices, Law Enforcement can swoop in a subpoena your own incriminating posts and shut down one of the most important HR resources in the world.

kanyeknievel
22-01-2011, 01:15
Im sure its said in this thread thousands of times, but I dont have the time right now to look through the whole thread. What is the Opana mg equivelence to oxycontin? Thanks

muvolution
22-01-2011, 01:52
Im sure its said in this thread thousands of times, but I dont have the time right now to look through the whole thread. What is the Opana mg equivelence to oxycontin? Thanks

Oral is 2:1
Intranasal is like 5:1
IV/ IM/ SC is about 10:1

Don't know about rectal, but I think I remember it being somewhere around 3:1

Oxycodone has a fairly constant BA which is high orally to begin with. Opana has a low oral BA, hence the amount of drug that comes in a pill (one Opana can be equal to an entire case of Numorphan ampules) so by using it intranasal (probably the best chance for low harm but a good high - as long as you stick to IR's) you are making the BA jump from 10% to 40-50%, whereas oxycodone doesn't have such a jump in BA regardless of the ROA because of it's already high Oral efficacy.
See my last post above yours on the dangers of snorting the ER's.

kanyeknievel
22-01-2011, 02:34
Oral is 2:1
Intranasal is like 5:1
IV/ IM/ SC is about 10:1

Don't know about rectal, but I think I remember it being somewhere around 3:1

Oxycodone has a fairly constant BA which is high orally to begin with. Opana has a low oral BA, hence the amount of drug that comes in a pill (one Opana can be equal to an entire case of Numorphan ampules) so by using it intranasal (probably the best chance for low harm but a good high - as long as you stick to IR's) you are making the BA jump from 10% to 40-50%, whereas oxycodone doesn't have such a jump in BA regardless of the ROA because of it's already high Oral efficacy.
See my last post above yours on the dangers of snorting the ER's.

Hmmm okay, thank you. I've been experimenting with Rectal Administration recently and have been liking it, and hope I've been doing it correctly. Don't see how you can get that wrong, u stick something up ur ass and squeeze out the water/drug haha. but my sringe is only 1mL. is that too little amount of water? I dont see how it would matter as long as all the drug is dissolved right?

But I would think the RA would be more effective than nasally. BUt i guess not? What happens if I get an ER instead of IR pill though?

muvolution
22-01-2011, 04:22
Well the ER pills gel in water. They CAN be insufflated (they can't be injected in any manner since they gel in water.) I would imagine that you couldn't push the gel through a 1mL syringe, so that could make admin. difficult. Just go to a pharmacy and get a 3 or 5 mL Oral Syringe, shouldn't have any problems getting that as it's mostly just a dental hygiene tool.

If you only use them occasionally, you should be fine snorting crushed up ER's (take the coating off first with a razor. Just see my above post about silicosis regarding what can happen with repeated heavy use.

wvdude
24-01-2011, 03:28
I've been doing Opana ER for several months. 20mg tablets 3xday.
My pain doc recently switched my dose to 30m tablets 2xday.
Is it just me or do the 30mg tabs seem equal or less potent than the 20mg tabs. I don't think tolerance is the issue since you can notice that happening gradually. I noticed the difference right off the bat when I first got the 30's.
Thanks

leftwing
24-01-2011, 04:08
Prices? When I said "the worst cute, but no prices I ever spent", I was talking about these shitty ass shoes I bought! They're so uncomfortable!

I do apologize for the multiple posts, but I have to ask - are they really that annoying?

The reason I multiposted is because I'm posting from an iPhone, and I can't copy-paste things really, and many aspects of the forum interface simply wont work half the time, such as the edit function or the search engine. They just cause my browser to freeze up when I click on them the majority of the time

Jesus Christ, this forum would run smoother if there just WEREN'T any moderators.

"let's pile all the related threads into one big ass megathread with 5000 fucking posts in it!" yeah because THAT'S more organized, and makes it easier to find what you're looking for.... In this very thread even, there are people complaining that they can't find the post they're looking for because they don't remember what page it's on.

1 - yes it is annoying having to read multiple posts from the same poster, almost as annoying as people who don't bother to use the search function or their own research before posting *cough*.

how hard is it to edit your original post and place it in there?

2 - it would be the end of this place if there weren't moderator to help weed and filter out all the shit you guys don't see and don't have to deal with.

having troubles navigating and finding something within a thread? here's an easy solution and in a few simple steps you'll be proficient in searching mega threads.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee178/left_wing/partone.png


at the top of page, when in a thread, there's the option to search within a thread. click the drop down menu hit the advanced search.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee178/left_wing/parttwo.png


option a - search for keywords
option b - search for a specific poster

you can even mix and match; search for a specific phrase by a member to help you find a post you remember reading.


jesus christ, this place would be soooooo much better if people followed, what i call, simple instructions and rules.

gosh.

opanaramic
28-01-2011, 01:28
can someone please leave directions for iv'ing the pink opana tens, pm or post.

oldkaw
28-01-2011, 05:09
I.V.'ing U.S. pills is crazy. Know you guys don't want to hear it, but blame the mom and pop meth cooks. They do not have to list everything in pills and these days its just not safe. You can't filter w/h microns or however else you think your being safe. You dissolve salt in water you can't filter the sodium separate from the chloride either so think about it, maybe crush it, wet in a spoon and come back in an hour and look ...

JessicaM
28-01-2011, 05:20
Hello everyone, longtime lurker here. I have a chance today to get Opana ER 40's and was wondering if anyone here has tried this stuff out yet. Can you rail this stuff out or can you only bang it or what.

You can't IV it, but you can rail it...I hated the stuff though, gave me horrible, vivid nightmares that would paralyze me in my sleep.

scottd420
28-01-2011, 22:40
For those interested, opana intake absorption orally is only 10%, when ingesting a fatty meal prior to use it's improved to 50% but much still doesn't get filtered purely into the bloodstream due to having to go thru the intestines and liver breakdown. **For experienced, high-tolerance users only** If you want the best experience eat a high fat/protein food 45 to an hour before snorting it. if you snort it remember you want it to be absorbed thru the mucus membranes so those of you who hauk it down your throat your wasting it, so snort somewhat slowly to avoid this. i suggest splittin the line evenly between both nostrils assuming they're both clear since the left leads to the bloodstream, the right tend to settle more in the uppersinus cavity closer to the brain. From here is my method, i have a Very High tolerance to all opiates, benzos & alcohol....that being said i follow with a 2mg clonopin as an added relaxant and it's a very acute dose so it doesn't take away from the better euphoria of opana & three shots of vodka over a span of 30 mins, adding a potentiation of about 170%. Again, i do not suggest this to anyone who couldn't comfortable snort 2-3 40mg opana in a sitting. The only other way to have the onset and absorption more prevelent would be IV, which despite the claims on here TimeRx is indeed breakable given you have time & experience in breaking abuse proof coatings of other pills. I think i've added enough information for the spectrum of users across this thread, plz take into account your own tolerance & experience with everything encapsulated in this post. I have no intent of harming anyone, this is in fact a website about staying ALIVE. I hope this is only beneficial to all & not detrimental. This was my first post here tho i've been a long time reader. Enjoy!be safe, be smart!

So, I just want to straighten this out for myself. When you say it boosts availability to 170% do you mean from the regular nasal dose, because that's damn near 100% absorbtion, such as IV. Obviously we all know we can't take anymore than 100% of the drug ingested. I am just curious, I'm new to this drug, I'm a hydromorphone guy; but would love to see how this works for pain.

muvolution
28-01-2011, 22:48
170% of a value is the original value plus 70% of the original value.

ie. 10.
170% of 10 is 10 x 1.7 = 17.

Alice_D
29-01-2011, 20:11
you can shoot up the pink instant release 10mg pills very easily. You just crush them, mix them in a spoon with 100 units(1mL) of water. Then stir it up.
Filter it with a micronfilter or if not a qtip, which IV'ing pills in not that safe without a proper filter.
Then suck it up into your rig, find vein, and fall in love haha

muvolution
29-01-2011, 20:56
the IR's are as easy as dilaudids to work up. the solution will be pink though.

MindFruit
29-01-2011, 22:28
I just barely went through some pink 10mg opana IRs. The pinker the solution is, the better the shot will be. Just be careful with this stuff.

chazz69amanda
30-01-2011, 00:10
How did the character of the high compare to oxycontin and/or heroin if you have the experience?

they gel up so? how is everyone doing opanas iv ?:\

muvolution
30-01-2011, 01:34
gotta get the IR's, not the ER.
better than any other RX opiate. H or Morphine are different, but just as good. Opana really is great, though.

oldkaw
31-01-2011, 05:41
I know I'm raining on your parade here, and you've done it plenty of times and can still see, don't need a kidney transplant yet, etc. so I won't go into the physics or US policy again. But ask yourself, if you guys dissolved some table salt in a spoon, do you think you could separate the sodium from the chloride with a micron filter? Just because its not jelled in the spoon does not mean there is not agglutination in the bloodstream. Go buy a bag of good dope if you've got to do a shot. Your eyes, kidneys, lungs, etc will thank you over time.

muvolution
31-01-2011, 05:56
I don't shoot em and I would say that based on the "Inactive Ingredients megathread", an Opana IR is perfectly safe to shoot when using a micron filter based on the particulate size and lack of solubility of all but 1 ingredient which is filtered out @.4o microns as long as it isn't heated.
I would say that's much safer than lots of street dope. From an HR standpoint though, I agree, you never know what's not getting filtered out.

baschoen
31-01-2011, 21:22
Saw something about the debate between OC's and Opana ERs.... For some reason Opana ER has a few negative side effects that I don't get from OC. 1. Oxy doesnt gel up like these opanas (The old oxy didnt at least) 2. The high is more Euphoric and stimulating with Oxy 3. Opana usage for a number of days in a row causes some weird things to happen to my body (Extremely black stool). 4. Oxy tastes better imo (This is assuming an ROA of snorting)

gatman
01-02-2011, 15:44
I was getting 60 opana er 20mil a mounth an and 90ir 5mil If you get the ones that have 8 sides and snort them you may wont to read up on them.Thay arnt good to snort thay have some shit in them that will give you lung cancer. Ow ya and thay do gel up but one good sniff and down goes a big bugger.If you have the round blue 5mil or round red 10mil you can snort and or shoot them its only the 8 sided ones that are bad read up on them. and be carefull I had to walk away from my scrips and get on methadon I got that bad. you will love them

Pepito
01-02-2011, 18:22
they gel up so? how is everyone doing opanas iv ?:\

I saw this in one of the archives. I also read that using 91% iso works too.
Seems like after reading a couple of posts, people are suggesting basically the following:
1) scrape off coating & crush up (don't use water it will gel)
2) add alcohol
3) filter out sediment through cotton or filter
4) let alcohol evaporate
5) you will end up with a whitish substance being the leftover medication, add a measured amount of water and filter into syringe

Anyway, here's the copy paste from the other post I found, don't know if anyone tried it, but the guy seems to know a bit about chemistry, so he seems pretty knowledgeable.:

"Opana Extended Release contains these chemicals—
See (http://www.endo.com/pdf/Opana_ER_PI.pdf)

Lets talk some really basic chemistry—solubility.

Here’s where the problem happens— (remember, this is all room temperature)

Oxymorphone – freely soluble in water, slightly/partially soluble in ETOH.
TIMERx® -N: (The hard one RIGHT?)
Locust Gum: freely soluble in water (gels up), INSOLUBLE in ETOH
Xanthan Gum: freely soluble in water (gels up), INSOLUBLE in ETOH

You mix opana with water first, you get a spoon full of cum.

Here’s where we can build a plan of action:

Here are some other things that are insoluble in ETOH:
TIMERx® -N: (The hard one RIGHT?)
Locust Gum: freely soluble in water (gels up), INSOLUBLE in ETOH
Xanthan Gum: freely soluble in water (gels up), INSOLUBLE in ETOH
hypromellose: insoluble in dehydrated ethanol
The 5 mg, 10 mg, 15 mg, 20 mg, and 30 mg tablets also contain
Macrogol: freely soluble in water, practically insoluble in ETOH
Oxymorphone – freely soluble in water, slightly/partially soluble in ETOH.
Other TIMERx ingredients:
Dextrose: doesn’t matter because its harmless
Polysorbate: freely soluble in water and ETOH, but harmless (used in eye drops)
methylparaben: soluble in ethanol and H2O, but is a preservative and, IMHO, harmless
sodium stearyl fumarate: Practically insoluble in water, slightly soluble in Ethanol.
Insoluble\poorly soluble in Water:
titanium dioxide: insoluble in water
Calcium Carbonate [chalk, TUMS] poorly soluble in water (47mg/liter) and harmless also.
triacetin: soluble in ETOH, slightly soluble in water, insoluble in benzene

SO—since oxymorhpone is partially soluble in ethanol (about .25-.5 grams per liter) you are going to need a nice amount of pure ethanol here. Four a 40mg pill—I would go use at least 50 milliliters since it evaporates so quickly. Crush up very finely the pill. Mix this in with at least everclear (preferably >99% ETOH). Let sit for a while. Sediment at the bottom will include TIMERx and hypromellose. Filter the sediment out.

Now have ETOH containing your oxymorphone, very little macrogel, dextrose, polysorbate, sodium steryl fumerate, methylparaben, titanium dioxide, calcium carbonate, and tums.

Now find a flat easily scrapable glass or pyrex dish. Let the alcohol evaporate.

Afterwards mix the left over powder in the plate with cold/lukewarm water.
Sodium steryl fumerate isn’t soluble in water—neither is titanium dioxide, for the most part calcium carbonate and triacetin. Oxymorphone is freely soluble, along with dextrose, polysorbate, the residual macrgel, methylparaben. a little bit of triacetin.

So What does this mean?

After you filter off the sediment that isn’t soluble in the water, you have a aqueous solution of oxymorphone, and a few other harmless substances (preservatives).

(If you want to go all crazy, Triacetin is insoluble in Benzene, but I think that’s going overboard. Just be careful with dosing—also, use ETOH, and not rubbing alcohol. It you get to fiending out, injecting etoh (while it burns) will not harm you like isopropyl alcohol will… just a thought.)


Again---I talked with my friend and wrote this in two hours. I have high hopes and would try it myself if I have one on hand. Should anyone find this works, please let me know. I have high faith in the process. It is after all just a matter of patience and science.

so to summarize:
1. scrape of coating with sandpaper preferably
2. crush pill and mix in glass with 50-100ml of >95% ETOH (5-10 min)
3.Let sediment settle then filter out ETOH
4. Let ETOH Evaporate.
5. Add water to solution.
6. let sediment settle, then filter off H20.
7. MEASURE DOSAGE.
8. Enjoy Responsibly.


Be well- be safe.

pragma."

Hope that helps. Be safe.

Silenced
02-02-2011, 00:01
I know I'm raining on your parade here, and you've done it plenty of times and can still see, don't need a kidney transplant yet, etc. so I won't go into the physics or US policy again. But ask yourself, if you guys dissolved some table salt in a spoon, do you think you could separate the sodium from the chloride with a micron filter? Just because its not jelled in the spoon does not mean there is not agglutination in the bloodstream. Go buy a bag of good dope if you've got to do a shot. Your eyes, kidneys, lungs, etc will thank you over time.

Because you always know what dope is cut with, eh? :) ...even your 'good dope'

sillydreadhead
02-02-2011, 01:17
They gel up in your nose, but not bad at all. Definitely worth it. Opana is the only opiate i can get that can easily give me a nod still...

i roll balls
02-02-2011, 08:13
Hey, sorry i'm somewhat of a oxycodone noob..
but is a OP 60 an opana 60 mg?

muvolution
02-02-2011, 09:13
Hey, sorry i'm somewhat of a oxycodone noob..
but is a OP 60 an opana 60 mg?

they don't make Opana (which is oxymorphone) in tablets above 40mg in Time-Release and 10mg Instant Release.

an OP80, OP60, etc... is just a Purdue Pharmaceuticals new Oxycontin Plastic. Different drugs, different tablets, different manufacturers.

i roll balls
02-02-2011, 19:46
they don't make Opana (which is oxymorphone) in tablets above 40mg in Time-Release and 10mg Instant Release.

an OP80, OP60, etc... is just a Purdue Pharmaceuticals new Oxycontin Plastic. Different drugs, different tablets, different manufacturers.

ah, ok thanks for the help :)

gigolo
08-02-2011, 01:43
I think thats^^^^ a great idea.

I also think the drug company's should stop putting these deadly materials inside their medications in order to prevent people from using the meds the way they want to. All medications have to have come from some natural source at some point or another(even fully synthetic drugs are created by using natural substances) ...so why make it so hard to enjoy the benefits(and problems) of all that is natural and given to us by the earth?Please stop with the fear mongering. Instead, get the facts. Read the MSDS handling for SMCC. It's considered a "nuisance dust". Not a mention of dire damage to lungs. Keep it real.

Harrisment
10-02-2011, 04:11
What about plugging the ER's, is that even possible since they gel? I've railed them a few times and while I enjoy it, I'd be lying if I said the possibility of lung problems later isn't worrying me a bit.

Alice_D
10-02-2011, 08:17
I have heard of ways to extract the oxymorphone out of the pill so you end up with almost pure gel-free 'pana powder. I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it was in this megathread. Regardless you can try the search engine. Because I don't know if plugging gel would even work.

WeJamminn
10-02-2011, 15:29
id love to know how to IV the opana ER cuz when i just hold it n my hand and put it to a ped egg i can feel it getting sticky just from the moisture in my hands. It wants to gel up just from that so i would imagine IV'ing this would b very difficult but if anyone knows please share you wisdom. i got an opana 40mg sittin n my pocket right now bout to take it to the dome! at 9 30 am this is wonderful.

muvolution
10-02-2011, 19:40
There really is NO way to defeat the anti-abuse mechanism, sorry. You can snort it or put it in your butt, however it still gels resulting in a somewhat slow release.
The only thing you could do would be to have enough pills to make at least a gram of oxymorphone and do an A/B extraction on them which would break the ER mechanism, separate with ether, precipitate, wash, etc... A pain in the ass, and probably is considered manufacturing so add 10 years in jail and I doubt it's worth it.