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Meth_Head
30-12-2001, 19:20
Ok I did a search and I didn't see one post on this. I have had many arguments with my friends over which side of the aluminum foil to use. I say that you fold your aluminum so that you have dull side up on both sides. then one of my friends said to put the meth on the dull side but have the shiny side on the bottom. Which one is correct?
Before any starts replying that I should just go out and buy a piece or use a lightbulb, I am in the process of getting a piece right now.

Aja909
30-12-2001, 19:46
Either way you smoke it off the foil it's bad for you..

Meth_Head
30-12-2001, 19:55
Ok Aja909 like that totally didn't answer my question. I know that smoking off foil is bad for me but so is breathing the air. I am just looking for an answer so I could either tell my friend that he ows me or that I owe him. So please don't try to lecture me on what is bad and what is good for me aiight. Sorry if I sound real pissy, but I haven't had any sleep in a while and am really irritable right now.
[ 30 December 2001: Message edited by: Meth_Head ]

TrippinTreeToker
30-12-2001, 21:16
the answer to your question is shiny side down. when the shiny side is heated you can accually see vapors coming off the shiny side. luckily you dont inhale these, unless of course you go dull side down. play with it youll see what im talking about. the only thing youll be vaporizing is the speed if you go shiny side down. oh yeah the alzhiemer myth is no myth ask your doctor. but you know whats worse than foil. POWDER deodorant. read the ingredients.

Deus121
30-12-2001, 21:23
Back when I first started smoking meth, and used aluminum foil, it always came the same on both sides. If your using foil that has a "dull" side, is this dull side coated with a paper? Or what makes it dull?

michael
30-12-2001, 21:23
the answer to your question is to either buy a pipe or use a lightbulb.

Meth_Head
30-12-2001, 21:28
michael if u read my post you wouldn't have posted that useless info u posted
Deus121 to answer you question, I just use regular Reynold's aluminum foil the "dull" side is not coated with anything to my knowledge.

Deus121
30-12-2001, 22:31
I just don't see what makes each side different then. There has to be something coating either side, thats probably something thats not all that good to heat up. So I'd try switching to a different foil. That, or put the flame against the coated side so as not to inhale anything that might be burning off it. Like someone else said, experiment to see which side heats best, and which side to have up/down so you don't inhale any crazy chemicals from a coating.

michael
30-12-2001, 22:34
well, to give you anther answer,
a) evidence that aluminum causes alzhimer's is ANECDOTAL at best.
and
b) you can see vapors coming up from either side. i just tested it with ghetto brand foil.
IN CONCLUSION:
how much fucking reasearch do you assholes think has actually been done on which side is better for you to smoke speed off of? THAT"S RIGHT! NONE!

Meth_Head
30-12-2001, 22:51
look man no need for name calling up in here. that is just uncalled for. it's like my mom always told me 'a stupid question is the one that doesn't get asked'. so michael leave the name calling out of here.

ReverendLenny
30-12-2001, 23:43
i don't approve of chewing aluminum foil

Bong
31-12-2001, 00:11
People are gonna smoke off of foil no matter what. I always was told to smoke shiny side down...and it seems to make sense.
RevLenny ownz.

lain
31-12-2001, 01:45
i never really gave any thought to what side of the foil to use, but then again i have only had to chase the dragon around twice before i decided it was time to invest the huge sum of $6 on a wonderful glass piece of my very own. good luck securing yours- it will fast become a cherished friend!
i do, however have a thought on folding the foil over. the few times i used foil were my firt times smoking meth, so i folded it over so that i would have more layers of foil between the flame and the product, the theory being that more layers=insulation against the danger of an inexperienced person (me at the time)scorching (oh, god noooo!) the meth.

MDMA desciple
31-12-2001, 03:21
yes, aluminum IS bad for you. it forms deposits in the brain which draw synaptic activity into them like little blackholes. but ya know what? it's EVERYWHERE! everytime you drink a can of soda, you're getting tons of aluminum which the carbolic acid in the drink has eroded off the inside of the can. fuckin' a, on the deodorant thing, and that's not NEARLY the only toiletry to contain aluminum. the fact is, the shit is everywhere, you cant escape it. it's just as much an infragable part of our society as lead was to the ancient romans, so just move on. besides, ya know what else is bad for you?.... the DRUGS YOU'RE SMOKING OUT OF THE ALUMINUM!!!!
disciple

PhreeX
31-12-2001, 07:05
Smoking off aluminum foil is NOT harmfull, it's an old pot smokers myth that your brain will melt or some shit if you smoke off foil ..
Sites like this bastard factory propagate the foil myth:
http://www.drugwarroom.com/marijuana.htm (they claim aluminum burns, everything will burn at a high enough temperature, but a lighter being briefly held under it won't do it)
I have been wrong before, so if someone can find a legit publication that warns against smoking from foil and gives a reason - again, that lame marijuana website is not considered "accurate" .. anything in medical journals, even government sites... if it's such common knowledge among the drug using community (which we have decided are, for the most part, clueless about the drugs they use) then SURELY there has been a study done..

PhreeX
01-01-2002, 02:43
Alright, the straight dope on this issue.. the following was in response to a question about the myth that the shiny side is coated with some deadly chemical and that you should always cook with the shiny side out, dull side toward the food.. the official response from the mfgr. [quote]The truth is that the shiny side is not treated with a dangerous chemical. Mineral oil is used as a lubricant during the rolling process, some trace of which may remain on the finished foil--but it's not dangerous. The shiny side is shiny because of the way foil is made. During the last pass through the rolling mill, a double thickness of foil is run between the rollers. The side of each sheet that comes in contact with the polished steel rollers comes out shiny. The other side has a matte finish.

Deus121
01-01-2002, 02:55
Nicely done PhreeX.

PhreeX
01-01-2002, 05:21
It's good we finally put this one to rest.. it's one of those dreaded myths that FUCKING DRIVE ME NUTS!! Stuff like "an air bubble in the syringe can kill you" (not true, it would take more then a full CC of air injected VERY QUICKLY before you run the chance of that air causing heart problems).. or "if you hold your hit (of methamphetamine) it will re-crystalize in your lungs" (again, it's just bullshit but it sounds good)..
So, what have we shown:
1) Foil is not coated with anything that will burn off and contaminate your smoke..
2) Foil can "burn" like most any substance, however, a bic lighter isn't hot enough, even those butane "torches" ("crack lighters") don't offer enough heat to burn the aluminum (the flame will blacken the foil but thats fime)
3) Foil is safe to smoke from, there is no risk of getting any poison or anything .. anyone that says it's bad to smoke from foil doesn't know what they are talking about...

Aja909
01-01-2002, 05:47
you know all I wanted was a funny reply anf I got it? :D

Deus121
01-01-2002, 06:10
[quote]
2) Foil can "burn" like most any substance, however, a bic lighter isn't hot enough, even those butane "torches" ("crack lighters") don't offer enough heat to burn the aluminum (the flame will blacken the foil but thats fime)
I disagree, you *can* burn holes in aluminum foil.

TrippinTreeToker
01-01-2002, 07:44
ya they obviously didnt get those foil-hits as a newbie

Meth_Head
01-01-2002, 10:58
[quote]Originally posted by Deus121:

I disagree, you *can* burn holes in aluminum foil.
^^^ I totally agree with this because when I first started smoking meth off foil I burnt holes in the foil. They weren't like big holes or anything, just real small annoying ones that you have to be careful and not hit them or the meth flames up. When it flames and someone is hitting it and sucks up the flames, they are usually not the happiest of campers in the world.

PhreeX
01-01-2002, 13:51
Yeah, the little holes are a problem, especially with drugs such as heroin where the flame will simply destroy the drug - but, if you use multiple layers, change your foil now and then (not every other hit, but like after 30-50 passes with the flame, replace it), and use a regular lighter, not one of those hand-held plazma cutters - sounds easy? It is, and I only had those little holes *once* before I relized foil was a lot cheaper then heroin.. my point was that the foil wont burn up producing deadly aluminum smoke that turns to aluminum when it hits your lungs.. you can burn little holes in it from chronic heat-stress, but the foil wont burn like paper does..

Chainy
03-01-2002, 09:21
aluminum is horrible for you. use a lightbulb or snort the shit.

PhreeX
03-01-2002, 10:30
[quote]Originally posted by Chainy:
aluminum is horrible for you. use a lightbulb or snort the shit.
You idiot greenlighter... I mean, I know we are supposed to be accepting and help those that are new, but DID YOU EVEN READ THIS THREAD OR JUST LOOK AT THE TITLE AND THEN HIT THE REPLY BUTTON ON YOUR iMAC MOMMY BOUGHT YOU SO YOU CAN GET "AN AOL" AND TALK WITH ALL YOUR IDIOT FAG FRIEND ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE A COMIC BOOK WITH TRENT AND KURT FIGHTING EVIL FORCES! GOD DAMN YOU'RE STUPID, I MEAN, JUST READING YOUR INANE DRIVEL MAKES ME WANT TO GO SPLIT SOMEONE DOWN THE CENTER WITH A TRAFFIC SIGN POST! THERE SHOULD BE A TAX ON PEOPLE LIKE YOU SO THAT THE REST OF THIS WORLD THATS SMARTER THEN A POTTED PLANT DOESN'T HAVE TO SUFFER FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOUR KIND THAT ARE NOTHING BUT A WORTHLESS DRAIN ON THE INTELLIGENCE OF THIS WORLD! YOU ARE LIKE A BIG, BLACK HOLE OF STUPIDITY AND YOU SUCK OTHERS INTO IT.. EVERYONE THAT HAS READ YOUR REPLY IS A LITTLE DUMBER FOR HAVING DONE SO! I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU GET RAPED IN THE ASS WITH A BASEBALL BAT, OVER AND OVER YOUR COLON WOULD GET POUNDED AND YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN BECAUSE YOUR ASS WOULD BURN WITH THE FIRE OF 7 SUNS! I WOULD ENJOY DRIVING A WEDGE INTO YOUR CHEAST THEN HOLLOW YOU OUT, YOU COULD THEN SERVE A USEFULL PURPOSE BY BEING A SELF-CONTAINING UNIT FOR PEOPLE TO BURN THEIR GARBAGE IN! IN SHORT, READ THE FUCKING THREAD BEFORE YOU REPLY YOU GOD DAMN WASTE OF FLESH!
[EDIT - oh, you're female ... GET IT THROUGH YOUR DADDY-MOLESTED SKULL THAT OFFLINE YOUR TITS AND WARM HOLES WILL GET YOU BY, BUT ONLINE YOU NEED TO BE A LITTLE SMARTER THEN A JAR OF SAND.. AT LEAST PAY ATTENTION, THIS ISN'T LIKE SUCKING A COCK, YOU CAN'T SUCCEED BY DOING IT WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED AND YOUR HANDS AROUND THE SHAFT OF SOME GUYS COCK! DID YOUR BRAIN BLEED OUT DURRING YOUR LAST PERIOD OR HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN SO FUCKING STUPID? -]
[ 03 January 2002: Message edited by: PhreeX ]

Meth_Head
03-01-2002, 16:10
^^^^LMAO...Damn PhreeX that's harsh but funny as hell.

ILLUSION
03-01-2002, 16:44
That was the funniest fucking thing Ive read on here in a long time.

AdditionMan
03-01-2002, 17:02
hey phreex, i thought we werent suppose to write in all caps and flame other people, or is that another forum, oh well, you can do whatever you want

Lingo
03-01-2002, 18:59
It would have been even funnier if I saw one of those [macro close.stupidgreenlighter] tags at the end...
Adios,
Steve

PhreeX
04-01-2002, 04:30
[quote]Originally posted by AdditionMan:
hey phreex, i thought we werent suppose to write in all caps and flame other people, or is that another forum, oh well, you can do whatever you want
There are exceptions to every rule.. and the caps indicated I WAS YELLING ...

AbraMontague
04-01-2002, 10:17
You should know that PhreeX is yelling...that's more capitalized words in one post than in all of his posts combined since the creation of Other Drugs.

Meth_Head
04-01-2002, 14:11
I'm just glad that he wasn't yelling at me :) :) :) Thanks to all who replied with some answers to my question.
[ 04 January 2002: Message edited by: Meth_Head ]

bornThird
06-01-2002, 08:29
just random information -
consumption of aluminum is linked with causing alzheimers disease, but i wouldn't be worried about smoking it - beside the fact you probably aren't ingesting any noxious gases - the average person consumes 30-50 mgs of aluminum a day, so we're getting it anyway. thus, lots of stoners think that smoking out of tin-foils bowls causes alzheimers = dumbfucks.

-tRiXiE-
06-01-2002, 23:21
I belive the shit aluminum is coated in is called alum. It coats both sides, so the risk of alzheimers disease is minimal. Personally, i dont find smoking off either side to make a difference.

PhreeX
07-01-2002, 00:49
[quote]Originally posted by -tRiXiE-:
I belive the shit aluminum is coated in is called alum. It coats both sides, so the risk of alzheimers disease is minimal. Personally, i dont find smoking off either side to make a difference.
WTF? Don't you people READ the fucking threads before you post replies?
[quote]The truth is that the shiny side is not treated with a dangerous chemical. Mineral oil is used as a lubricant during the rolling process, some trace of which may remain on the finished foil--but it's not dangerous. The shiny side is shiny because of the way foil is made. During the last pass through the rolling mill, a double thickness of foil is run between the rollers. The side of each sheet that comes in contact with the polished steel rollers comes out shiny. The other side has a matte finish.
From the mfgr... it's not coated with anything, it's aluminum ... enough of this...