PDA

View Full Version : first time shooter, questions about buying needles at pharmacies in ny



nyuser12432
18-03-2008, 09:50
i have never bought a syringe before and just have a few simple questions that i hope a few of you new yorkers can handle. i dont live by any needle exchanges so the easiest way is to purchase them from any of the 20 pharmacies nearby. i was just curious about what quantities you can buy? do you have to buy the 20-60 packs as shown on several popular pharmacy websites or can you buy a single syringe if you wanted to? also i'm slightly familiar with the gauges, but not with brands etc so what exactly do you do? just go to the back pharmacy and ask them for (insert popular brand name here) and then the gauge, which from what i've heard should be a 28 gauge needle. in a nutshell, just give me an idea of what to say including a popular brand and gauge because the whole thing just feels awkward for me to do and i don't want to walk in there and be like "hey i want some needles so i can shoot some dope, what do you recommend?!" sorry if this is a foolish question, i just am not certain if they'll ask any questions about it or if they aren't allowed to b y law etc. thanks for your time all, hope you can give me some answers bluelight heh

chinacat311
18-03-2008, 09:52
they are usually sold in 10-packs. i used to ask for a pack of "BD 1cc 28g x 1/2" tip insulin syringe". 30 gauge if you want will be a little thinner/more comfortable. i would always write it on a piece of paper and hand it to them just to make it easier.

sometimes theyll ask you about diabetes and hassle you, so just go to the next one if they dont wanna sell you anything.

(dont know how much of this is allowed, but clean needles has got to be harm reduction, right?)

if you are going to IV, be sure to read this whole guide (http://www.harmreduction.org/downloads/idu_manual.pdf) before you even buy the rigs.

nyuser12432
18-03-2008, 10:14
yes i've read numerous guides and know all about safety and proper techniques and all that, i've seen plenty of people shoot up in front of me and explain it as they go too just for extra reassurance to, i'm good to go on that front. i was just unsure as to how to go about it to produce the least amount of questions.

its legal to buy syringes otc in ny in any pharmacy, so i don't see how it wouldn't be allowed as it is harm reduction considering the alternative of buying some off a sketchy dope dealer.

thanks for your help!

chinacat311
18-03-2008, 10:34
some pharmacists just dont like selling to people without a script. regardless of the legality (its legal in my home state too) you will sometimes be turned away. i guess they dont want to "perpetuate" IV drug abuse. some of them think by refusing to sell a ten pack of rigs they will get some addict to quit heroin.8) it doesnt hurt to go in clean cut and well dressed.

Bavanai
18-03-2008, 10:43
it doesnt hurt to go in clean cut and well dressed.
And have some eyeglasses on. They work wonders for me.

Mr Blonde
18-03-2008, 13:56
This was posted by rave23 in another thread recently about buying needles. Timeless advice =D:


i get my needles from Shoppers or London drugs.
If they ask me what they are for, i say for injection purpose.
They usually give me a look and are like "For Drugs?" (Damn right for drugs, what else do you inject?)
then i'm like "FUCK YOU, I HAVE FUCKING DIABETES" (it's important that you say that really loud, and act upset) and show them my faked diabetis pass (you can make one yourself sooooo easy )
Then they are so embarased that they just give them to me without any further question. Haha i am a little mofo...
Then i usually talk to the manager, complain about being hasseld as a drug user, get a 25$ gift card, and leave the store with a fat grin on my face. And all that while being sky high on some smack...

If i don't use my fake pass, i usually start a moral discussion, if they'd rather have me tear my veins appart with used needles, and that usually works if i demand to see a manager. Just be polite in these situations, and you will get needles 9 out of 10 times. ("You know, next time i shoot i can be *wait a second, look sad, put on puppy eyes* dead... then i'm gonna be thinking about my angle of doom, *you*, cause you can't even get me a clean needle. I didn't choose this, ya know?How can you be so damn iresponsible *fake cry*..."; worked 8 out of 10 times, the other 2 times i got kicked out)

That is in canada though.

uncle-jimmy
18-03-2008, 15:38
getpinz.com

BlueEclipse
18-03-2008, 17:31
This was posted by rave23 in another thread recently about buying needles. Timeless advice =D:


yeah that was classic.=D

johanneschimpo
18-03-2008, 17:38
Don't know if its been stated yet, but I recommend trying the "mom and pop" pharmacies, if there are any in your town/county. I'm in California and the small ones (IE not walgreens, CVS, longs, riteaid) are always best for buying rigs.

chinacat311
18-03-2008, 18:12
^ i have actually had the opposite experience. the mom and pop shops always seem so protective of their image/reputation that none i have ever been to have even been close to providing rigs without a script.

OP: it doesnt really matter where you go, if they are legal in NY you will most likely get them within your first pharmacy or two that you try so it doesnt make much of a difference.

i have used two approaches; one: just waltz in and act like you have done this a million times. have everything you need memorized and have a story ready. or two: write the info on a slip of paper and act confused, like "do you guys carry these?" like you dont know anything about whats on the paper. tell them its for your sick uncle who is from out of town.

i use the latter most often when i am not near an exchange.. it has worked about 75% of the time for me.

btw, and this is really important, i read that you have done research already, but i really really recommend that you read the link i posted earlier in the thread. even if you think you know everything, it is really important that you learn as much as you can and know EVERYTHING there is to know before you even buy the rigs. (ie, where to shoot, how to shoot, veins vs. artery, staying clean/sterile, vein health, etc etc) there is a lot more to learn than just the straight up technique of shoving a needle in your arm.. a trained monkey could do that much. i dont know how much you know, but you can always learn more so check it out even if you just skim it and see if there is anything you missed in your previous research.

here it is again; Getting Off Right (pdf) (http://www.harmreduction.org/downloads/idu_manual.pdf)

johanneschimpo
18-03-2008, 18:59
Touche. Thats just my own experience. Not really mom and pop, with a little old lady behind the counter, but just a non-chain pharmacy.


i have used two approaches; one: just waltz in and act like you have done this a million times. have everything you need memorized and have a story ready. or two: write the info on a slip of paper and act confused, like "do you guys carry these?" like you dont know anything about whats on the paper. tell them its for your sick uncle who is from out of town.

Yes those are pretty much your only two options. Unless you just don't give a fuck and go in there and yell "I NEED RIGS!" but I don't think that gets you what you need...

I go for the first approach. Make sure you look nice, clean, and non-junkie-like. That should be obvious though. I used to sometimes put my hair in a nerdy ass way and wear a funky jacket, just something I could do to NOT seem like I slam heroin. If you have the confidence I recommend option 1 over option 2, although I've made them both work several times. The first one feels better once you've accomplished it, and also you can repeat it easily with the same pharmacist, once they think you have a legit need for them. With the second, that might be awkward when you go there a few weeks later and your uncle from out of town needs syringes again. I think I'm overthinking this though, its all good.

chinacat311
18-03-2008, 19:00
i just usually go with number two, because with number one, you kind of have to act like you are diabetic, and im always worried they would ask me some shit about my blood sugar or something to test me and i wouldnt know what to say. its ridiculous im sure but i just felt safer acting clueless... saying the rigs were for someone else.

johanneschimpo
18-03-2008, 19:13
Oh, another tip. Tear off the top flap from a box of insulin (find it somewhere).
It will say the brand name: novalog, humalin, whatever.
This works well with #2, say your uncle gave it to you, when you go to buy him syringes.
Now that I think about it, have him write what he needs "28g 1/2inch tip 1cc" or whatever ON the flap from the insulin box. BOOM! Guaranteed sale right there, I promise.

thujone
18-03-2008, 19:39
if they're legal then skip the story bullshit and go from pharm to pharm until someone sells you. better to not say anything and scowl than try bullshitting and get caught in the middle of your lie

and yeah go for the BD insulin ones, they're nice n small

chinacat311
18-03-2008, 19:48
i dunno man they are legal in my state but i still got hassled at some pharmacies. sometimes if i just stuck to my story i would get the rigs after answering a question or two about my "uncle". it was worth it to avoid the trip to another pharmacy.

Missykins
18-03-2008, 23:08
You MUST have a prescription to buy needles in NY, NJ, and PA. Some people have had luck buying them online without and rx.

yo_bot
18-03-2008, 23:27
where else would it be reliable to buy syringes online, for MY diabetes??!

TheodoreRoosevelt
18-03-2008, 23:32
Always know exactly what you want - what gauge, what CC, what length needle, and how many you want (10 packs usually, but you can ask for singles or the 100 pack).

If they ask what for, say insulin. If they ask what type, say Lantus. If they ask how many units, say 20.

Have a solid government issue ID on you to, such as a drivers license. Most require that you have an ID like a license, because they write all your info down. Don't worry, they won't call home or anything like that. Don't give a fake address or anything like that either, they'll see it on your ID...

Pharmacies at grocery stores are great places to pick them up.

Some require a prescription to be shown. Just say you don't have it on you, and you use lantus and whatever.

Don't have to pick up any set amount, just get what you want.

Dress nicely.

gothood?
18-03-2008, 23:38
I'm a New Yorker, grew up in around NYC/Long Island and yes it legal to buy rigs in NY. U shouldn't have a problem getting them as long as u spit out what gauge and cc and whatnot u want with confidence. Trust me i was freaking mad nervous asking the pharmacist and had no clue what "gauge" i wanted and what cc. She ask for gauge size and i studdered something i had no clue about. In the end she said she needed to know the "gauge size sir" so i was just like...um the smallest size gauge, cause my grandma can't take large gauges anymore.....
As long as u know what u want just say it to them and I will almost garauntee they'll sell you a ten pack...cheap too in NY for a 10 pack 28 gauge 1cc rigs......
Then just keep going back to that one

GlassAss420
19-03-2008, 02:05
I'd go for 1 cc, 1/2 in tip, 29 gauge. The 1/2 tip is important, its hard to hit some deep veins with a 3/8, near impossible for me. The 1cc part is about as important, the 1/2cc ones don't hold enougth liquid and its hard to register without the plunger slipping out the back, also the 3/8 in tip ones tend to have a weird needle on them that clog easier and are known to pop out when you push down to unplug them. The 29 ga dosen't matter that much, just preference, if they offer you 28 or 30 ga cause their "out" of 29 just take them, but insist on the other perameters.

since your not in a rush or sick, (its your first time eh?), go to a diffrent store if they don't have 1cc and 1/2 tip rigs, whATEVER about the ga, 1 up or down dosen't matter too much. 29 is my prefence tho, small enougth to not gouge your arms too much and big enougth not to be pronwe to clog.

Good luck with hitting a vein your 1st time too, suggest you read and re read those how-to linked above, or even better get someone with expierence to help.. just don't give em too much dope for helpin,, lol that wAS my 1st expierences..

GlassAss420
19-03-2008, 02:10
So yeah just say
I need a 10 pack of 1cc, 1/2in tip, 29ga insulin syringes..

You don't need to mention a brand name, they should just give you what they stock. I guess you could ask for bd if theirs an option, I usually just get whatever generic Walgreens ones.

Someone above said needles are illegal without a script in NY, you could still try it. Check online for needle xchanges by you, I KNOW they must have them in NY, that states huge with dope. It'd be criminal if they didn't have needle exchanges to reduce HIV and Hep and the like.

sixpartseven
19-03-2008, 02:11
I buy mine at walgreens and cvs all the time. Its different state to state, but around here they have no problems selling them. No questions asked.

It might by different in NY, but our cities (ny and detroit) have similar policies on the subject, so youll probably be good.

Just do what JC said though. Try the small pharmacies first, or if you can, order off the internet.

sonic
19-03-2008, 02:40
they are usually sold in 10-packs. i used to ask for a pack of "BD 1cc 28g x 1/2" tip insulin syringe". 30 gauge if you want will be a little thinner/more comfortable. i would always write it on a piece of paper and hand it to them just to make it easier.

sometimes theyll ask you about diabetes and hassle you, so just go to the next one if they dont wanna sell you anything.

(dont know how much of this is allowed, but clean needles has got to be harm reduction, right?)

if you are going to IV, be sure to read this whole guide (http://www.harmreduction.org/downloads/idu_manual.pdf) before you even buy the rigs.

It's all allowed. We aren't strict about needle sources. It's one of the few exceptions we make for the sake of harm reduction.

l Caution l
19-03-2008, 09:01
I live in Atl so i just go down to little 5 points to the pharmacy and say i need a 10 pack, don't even have to say what they always know what u mean. they just hand em to you and look at u like get the hell outta here junkie.. its hard to get get a regular pharmacy to sell em to you around here though...

TheodoreRoosevelt
19-03-2008, 09:11
^
That story reminds me of those glass crackpipes and choreboys they sell at the gas station. I always refuse to smoke crack, been like 5 years since I did it and never want to touch coke again, stuff is gross, but sometimes my connect will want to and I have to buy the pipe for him. It's so awkward, and obvious.

I always give him enough shit to make it all fun though. If I'm buying your crackpipe I'm gonna make fun of you till you cry.

r007ph07oN
19-03-2008, 09:12
I live in Atl so i just go down to little 5 points to the pharmacy and say i need a 10 pack, don't even have to say what they always know what u mean. they just hand em to you and look at u like get the hell outta here junkie.. its hard to get get a regular pharmacy to sell em to you around here though...


same here in tn. just walk in to a particualr few independent pharmacies and ask for a ten pack or a hundred box, hand them the cash, and leave. done.

RIGHTEOUS1
19-03-2008, 14:12
It is legal to buy syringes in NY. Just go to any Duane Reade or Rite Aid and ask for a few. You can Purchase 1 or 101, it's best to know what CC you need and the diabetic talk for they all have attitudes well most.

GbizzleMcGrizzle
19-03-2008, 21:53
I've bought rigs all over new york state, from NYC to bumfuck nowhere, easter, western. And i've never been denied a pack of rigs no matter how small the shop is. you have to buy a minumum of 10 though even if they come in singles

uncle-jimmy
19-03-2008, 21:56
another one theneedlebeast.com:)

smackem
19-03-2008, 22:02
It is legal in Texas, but from what I hear, you can't buy them in dallas, houston, or maybe san antonio. I live in a smaller, west texas town, and I can get needles whenever I want from a local 24 hour pharmacy. Walmarts will always sell them, Walgreens, and cvs shy away from it, although there is this one CVS that is SOLID. Mom and pops don't sell em, united pharmacys sell them everytime. Just clean youself up a bit, jeez.


Although you can see a littlebit die in the pharmacists eyes when he sells 100 needles to an 18 year old.

Missykins
19-03-2008, 23:33
In NY, you can buy up to 10 syringes w/o a prescription at pharmacies participatating in the ESAP program:

www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/ conditions/diabetes/about_esap.htm

Everyone's right--make sure you know what you want when you go. Only U100 syringes are available in the human trade. I think they are available in 0.3 ml and 0.5 ml sizes--am I correct?

It is really important not to reuse syringes. Make sure you have taken the advice given by the more experienced list members and educate yourself first.

DemonXstreeM
20-03-2008, 00:36
I like 1cc 29/30g 5/16in or better 1/2in needle BD Ultra Fine II

I also think writing it down and handing it to them is a good start for first time purchasing. Should make it go smoother.


I was just thinking, if you are new to shooting go with the 5/16in needle

rave23
20-03-2008, 01:43
fuck with buying needles these days.
Nothing but a shitload of predjudice and hassling people while they could just make money off you. Fuck that. Selling Cigs to anybody (yea right... a pharmacy...) but not giving needles to honest, paying, friendly, legal-age customers is... well... fuck.

I almost got arrested today. For buying needles. I took a fresh, sealed brand spanking new rig, put it on the table, and asked politely if i could get 10 more of these. That fucking chick paniced so badly when she saw the needle lying in front of her that she called store security and they said i was gonna stab her with it and inject something and some shit. Right. With a new sealed needle on the counter... Get a grip!

Well, i walked out of the store with a gift card again (dunno how much), a free 10 pack of needles and a fucking huge appology. Can't wait till i go in there again and see the cick, making some stabbing moves with my arms or some shit =D. That's great, i love London Drugs and Canadian Wall-Marts. I shot up in the bathroom just out of protest, put a 'thank you' sticky note on the shaprs container and walked out. They care, giving me gift cards 'n shit all the time, saying sorry for being presumptious and shit... You just gotta play your cards well, always realize that you are doing nothing illegal at any point, and don't be affraid to call for the manager. If you are a 15 year old baggy pants wearing rap-fanatic though, that's gonna be mildy pathetic, and you get kicked out for sure. Like everybody else said, looks really mater.

And again: Do cry for the manager if you are at places like Wall-Mart or other big chains. They most likely give them to you.
Actually, buying in bigger quantities (like 100pc.) is *way* less expensive, and you don't have to run to the pharmacy every week.

Oh, another good thing (and forgive me for being a pig here ;)) to have is a girlfriend with big boobs. You can send them, and in 99% of all cases they come back with needles. Or take your arm candy with you or something. Sorry girls, but it works =D

PS: Can someone find the thread about the makeshift syringe =D?

rave23
20-03-2008, 01:52
...the 1/2cc ones don't hold enougth liquid and its hard to register without the plunger slipping out the back...


Ahhh... Take a deep breath *inhales*... Then i stick the needle in my niceley popped out vein, pull back to register, and *flup* the plunger slips out :X :X

Oh god, some of my worst rages have been about a slipped out plungers. Nothing like loosing a shot of smack because the fucking rig is to small and in your arm already when the plunger slips out. What a fucking tease :!

Khadijah
20-03-2008, 01:52
You MUST have a prescription to buy needles in NY, NJ, and PA. Some people have had luck buying them online without and rx.


This is blatantly, completely, 100% wrong in every way. New york aint included in those states. It is true for NJ and PA, but NY aint a part of that group.

Ima repeat it. The quoted post is dead-azz wrong about the legality of buying rigs in NY. It is completely legal without a prescription. Look it up, see for yourself.

GbizzleMcGrizzle
20-03-2008, 01:56
Ahhh... Take a deep breath *inhales*... Then i stick the needle in my niceley popped out vein, pull back to register, and *flup* the plunger slips out :X :X

Oh god, some of my worst rages have been about a slipped out plungers. Nothing like loosing a shot of smack because the fucking rig is to small and in your arm already when the plunger slips out. What a fucking tease :!

Never in my life have i come across a rig that was too small, there are some which are too small for my liking but never so small that i'm putting close to 100 units in it. with 1cc the most you need is 20 units

chinacat311
20-03-2008, 02:02
Ahhh... Take a deep breath *inhales*... Then i stick the needle in my niceley popped out vein, pull back to register, and *flup* the plunger slips out :X :X

Oh god, some of my worst rages have been about a slipped out plungers. Nothing like loosing a shot of smack because the fucking rig is to small and in your arm already when the plunger slips out. What a fucking tease :!

just cause the plunger pops out doesnt mean you automatically lose all the dope. this happened to me and i lost about 5 units tops. how did it all come out?

rave23
20-03-2008, 02:02
well, i gotta admit i was pretty wrecked by the time i tried to shoot up already, so 8) My bad i suppose. Can't get enought of something, BAM, you pay the price!

// it ran over my inner thighs, while the needle was kinda upside down. And i was quite far gone already (Ket IM), so getting the plunger in wasn't the easiest thing to do. But still, even if you don't loose dope, it's a fucking buzzkill ;)

LightTrailz
20-03-2008, 02:56
Both of the times ive used 30ga 1/2 cc short needless they didnt slip out at all neither did the plunger . the only thing i didnt like about them is they had no lubricant on the needle.

rave23
20-03-2008, 02:58
everybody i know of licks their needle before sticking it in there... I don't know why they do it, i never felt a difference. Is it maybe because it always stings cause i use alcohol swabs?

chinacat311
20-03-2008, 03:12
please do not like your needle or lick the blood at the injection site.

your mouth is a breeding ground of bacteria, and all of that shit goes right on your syringe when you lick it. there is no benefit and the risks are enormous. most rigs are lubricated to begin with, and you probably lick a lot of this off when you do this, not to mention all the bacteria that you introduce directly into your bloodstream.

licking it will not make it sting less. you should always use alcohol swabs and they will not make it hurt more or less.

rave23
20-03-2008, 03:15
well, i agree! Don't lick needles.

but i have to say, i feel a pinch more when the site is still wet with alc, so yes, you feel a tad more. If that bothers you though, i call you a big PUSSY :p

// sorry, this is not meant to be a personal attac :)