Is l-tyrosine available OTC in Aus?

I know 5-htp isn't, which is why I haven't gotten around to using it yet (though I know I should), but is l-tyrosine, it's equivelant for dopamine, available OTC down here?

Thinking about picking some up if so, I've been getting some rather shitty meth crashes lately, and it's an unpleasant experience I'd much rather avoid if at all possible.

Crankinit said:

I know 5-htp isn't, which is why I haven't gotten around to using it yet (though I know I should), but is l-tyrosine, it's equivelant for dopamine, available OTC down here?

Thinking about picking some up if so, I've been getting some rather shitty meth crashes lately, and it's an unpleasant experience I'd much rather avoid if at all possible.

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it comes in protein shakes and stuff. it should be

Ok cool.

Hopefully this will mean an end to spending sunday & monday staring blankly at a computer screen, bouncing from forum to forum not posting or really taking in much of what I read, listening to depressing metal music from my highschool years all day.

hate to tell you, but no, it does very little for meth comedowns.

^basically effect seems to vary from person to person. I bought some after reading some glowing reports here on BL - I found it to be a good mood stabiliser, but more from taking the recommended dose every day for a while, rather than just necking a few tabs the day after a night on the wizz.

On the other hand, I gave some to a friend - he said that it gave him a cracking headache so no good at all for him.

Worth a go at least - easily obtained too.

It gives me flu-type symptoms.

Crankinit said:

I know 5-htp isn't, which is why I haven't gotten around to using it yet (though I know I should)

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I got 5htp OTC in adelaide at a small health store, it was with the antidepressants... If I wasnt supposed to I dont think Ill tell my friends or anyone where incase I cease to be able to get them there any more

5htp is also available otc at health stores in Queensland.

Numeron said:

I got 5htp OTC in adelaide at a small health store, it was with the antidepressants... If I wasnt supposed to I dont think Ill tell my friends or anyone where incase I cease to be able to get them there any more

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I would 'really' love to know where you got it, any chance you could hit me up with a PM or whatever?

L-Tyrosine is to dopamine what tryptophan is to serotonin. It is L-Dopa that is to dopamine what 5-HTP is to serotonin.

This is one probable reason why L-Tyrosine's utilty following meth use is minor when compared with 5-HTP following MDMA use.

You are unlikely to come across L-Dopa in pure form unless you know someone with Parkinson's disease, where it is given in conjunction with carbidopa which inhibits the conversion of L-dopa into dopamine outside the brain and allows more L-dopa into the brain where increasing dopamine levels are needed.

I understand L-dopa is now available in a number of herbal "preparations" but I doubt with the inhibitor included which limits its effectiveness but also probably lessens some of the side effects of l-dopa/carbidopa when taken together.

5htp is allowed to me prescribed by naturpaths anywhere i believe.

Numeron said:

I got 5htp OTC in adelaide at a small health store, it was with the antidepressants... If I wasnt supposed to I dont think Ill tell my friends or anyone where incase I cease to be able to get them there any more

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Interesting. I've heard about it here (Adelaide) in health food stores, but I never sought after it because I was under the impression that it wasn't as good as through online sources. Is the product solely 5-htp, 100mg per cap ?

l tyrosine can be bought from many vitamin stores for around $15, i've trialed is on and off for years and have found it a good addition to a balanced (or unbalanced) diet.

Good brands to look at:
http://www.naturesown.com.au/prod_details.php?ID=0474,0475
http://www.fourbody.com.au/product.php?productid=16487&cat=445&page=1

although i do have some reservations about taking it for extended periods, i prefer one week of the month to take it daily, as it increases the bio availability of the nutrients to the body if you have pre existing mental health concerns it way be worthwhile talking to a GP or psychiatrist about if it will effect meds.


If you cant get 5htp, it may be worthwhile looking at inositol which is a b vitamin,

of the brief stuff i have read on it and trialling it so far seems to be another good general mood supplement with a huge range of benefits.

be careful with it though as with all things do some research on it esp if you are on anti depressants, so far i have found it helps with attaining deep sleeps and bouncing back from nights out when both pre and post loading.

i did read somewhere that coffee contrindicates it though will look for reference to this.


some links to what it is:

http://www.vitaminstuff.com/inositol.html

http://www.raysahelian.com/inositol.html

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/inositol.htm

http://healthlibrary.epnet.com/GetC...03-7f62-4563-8d47-5fe33da65dd4&chunkiid=21766

http://sleepdisorders.about.com/cs/medic/a/inositol.htm

^yeah spot on - agree with dosing for 1 week to get results

Actually in terms of Biscuit's post - to get dopamine from tyrosine you also need B6 and folate (B9), so if your diet is lacking in those, tyrosine won't help as much.

peaked said:

Interesting. I've heard about it here (Adelaide) in health food stores, but I never sought after it because I was under the impression that it wasn't as good as through online sources. Is the product solely 5-htp, 100mg per cap ?

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ya, straight up 5htp, but I have an idea that you are correct in saying that its not as good as through online sources, not because it could possibly be anything else but because of the price.

I have used Tyrosine at 3g per dose 3 x a day with St Johns wort and a few other things in my experimentation.

The Tyrosine on its own was good as a mood enhancer (will not say anti depressant).

5htp can be bought via mail order in QLD or FROM QLD.

Google it. It's just a supplement.

The only thing that will make you feel better after being up for days on meth, is SLEEP.

L-Tryptophan is in my opinion far more effective in the long run and possibly safer than 5-HTP. The only problem is it's scheduled in Australia and more difficult to source. If you can get your hands on it but, its worth it.

L-Tryptophan, in some studies has been found to be as effective as anti-depressants for mild depression. It was just never marketed as much because you can't patent in and sell it for large profits like a drug.