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Spaazkaz
03-01-2008, 07:41
Is anyone on this combo? I just started bupe... but dont know if its cool to take adderall. Doesn't seem right... let me know thanks!!! -Spaz-

Alephnul
03-01-2008, 11:18
I'm on subutex and just from personal experience, the first 3-4 weeks on bupe I found Ritalin (realise this is different to Addrerall) didn't have much effect. However after about 4-5 weeks Ritalin had its usual effect. I'm no chemist so can'ttell you why, but I do know that if you're on a stable dose of subutex, Methyphenidate is fine, and I've never had problems with it. That said I don't know if the extra ingredient in Suboxone blocks 'uppers'

Hope this helps

Alephnul

motiv311
12-03-2008, 03:51
i have been on this combo for a long time. its ok, but its pretty hard on your Bowel movements. be careful you don't taire your asshole, because suboxone will constipate you, and then adderall will suddenly cause you to shoot a brick out your ass

brainiacthemaniac
12-03-2008, 04:57
I find that Adderall actually gives me constipation...

Alephnul
12-03-2008, 10:10
I think what was being said is right, suboxone constipates in an opiate way (your bowel movements are diminished) whilst most uppers, (coke, speed, BZP) constipate in a 'compacting' way (sorry for the detail but stick with me here). Compacting leads to your shit turning into VLOs (Very Large Obstuctions) but wlll not constipate (ie - not having a movement for days on end). So the Adderall will compact your caca but you should be shitting on a regular basis.
Sub will constipate you, ie - 'oh yeah, its been like four days since my last shit. where's all that steak and ribs hiding!?'

So, combine the two, compacting, and constipation and you wlll be shitting bricks (VLOs) every couple of days - not pleasant.
Solution - certainly on any sub maintenance prog. you should take a natural laxative - fig based ones are good. If you end up with the 'double trouble' outlined above, where you've got a compacted shit that won't 'get out and stay out', pop a glycerine suppository up there (2 if its really bad), lay down for 30 mins (you'll feel your bowels 'arguing' with it but hold tight - too early and you'll just shit out slimey liquid), then go for your life, mumbling prayers of thanks to your god...and when you're done - Hallelujah!

If you're one of the wealthy, Heroin chic - 'I got on smack and coke 'cos daddy wouldn't buy me a flat in mayfair - and that's just not right' - types, go for regular colonic irrigation...or have your maid-slave suck VLOs directly from your chute, you may have to pay a bonus for the latter!

Hope this helps
AN

JahRed24x
21-07-2009, 19:09
Adderall and Suboxone is an OK combo for those of us WHO KNOW WHAT WERE DOING. I wouldn't take suboxone with adderall unless your dependent on opiates and need the suboxone so you don't start withdrawing/detoxing.

Tramadol + Adderall = Increased risk of seizure.

Z Y G G Y
21-07-2009, 20:26
My sub doctor prescribed me Adderall after me trying tons of antidepressants and them having no or bad effects. He seems like a pretty smart guy. I didn't like the adderall at all but I don't think the combo is dangerous otherwise he wouldn't have given it to me. I got 30mg per day.

I have a question for those experienced with this combo. Sorry to hijack ur thread but I don't want to make a new one and the two are related. Hope u'll let me share ur thread.

I got adderall I didn't like it at all. Does anyone think that something like desoxyn (methamphetamine) might work better. I read a lot of people like it better. I'm going to see my doc next Monday and he's pretty open to prescribing me stuff. What do u guys think I should ask for? I'm gonna ask for remeron and clonopin (gives me motivation and energy for some odd reason) and then maybe desoxy. He will definitely give me remeron but we'll see with the other two meds.

Lupus
21-07-2009, 23:35
I got adderall I didn't like it at all. Does anyone think that something like desoxyn (methamphetamine) might work better..

Its nearly impossible to get desoxyn. Most of the people currently scripted it have been on it for 20+ years and usually only for narcolepsy. It is sometimes used for ADHD but you really have to exhaust all your other possibilities first. Most doctors would absolutely shit themselves if you asked them for desoxyn.

You may be able to get dexedrine though which is considerably less physically activating and more mentally potent than adderal. (less PNS activation and more CNS)

dopiate
22-07-2009, 05:49
My sub doctor prescribed me Adderall after me trying tons of antidepressants and them having no or bad effects. He seems like a pretty smart guy. I didn't like the adderall at all but I don't think the combo is dangerous otherwise he wouldn't have given it to me. I got 30mg per day.

I have a question for those experienced with this combo. Sorry to hijack ur thread but I don't want to make a new one and the two are related. Hope u'll let me share ur thread.

I got adderall I didn't like it at all. Does anyone think that something like desoxyn (methamphetamine) might work better. I read a lot of people like it better. I'm going to see my doc next Monday and he's pretty open to prescribing me stuff. What do u guys think I should ask for? I'm gonna ask for remeron and clonopin (gives me motivation and energy for some odd reason) and then maybe desoxy. He will definitely give me remeron but we'll see with the other two meds.

Jesus christ, you really think you need to take a poweful opiate, a powerful benzo and a powerful amphetamine all at the same time?? I'm not judging you but that seems like a ridiculous combo.

tragedy1017
23-07-2009, 01:30
my cousin is prescribed both adderall and suboxone. he hasn't reported anything negative. then again, he is pretty tolerant to both.

vicodelicious
23-07-2009, 02:13
As long as you're used to both amphetamine and buprenorphine, you should have no problems mixing the two. If you're naive to either one or both, be cautious. There are no pharmacological indications between the two drugs.

JahRed24x
24-07-2009, 05:12
Jesus christ, you really think you need to take a poweful opiate, a powerful benzo and a powerful amphetamine all at the same time?? I'm not judging you but that seems like a ridiculous combo.

She/he didn't say anything about taking a benzo??

bipolarlola
24-07-2009, 12:50
Take Suboxone and Dex. with no problem at all...

dopiate
24-07-2009, 16:55
She/he didn't say anything about taking a benzo??


I'm gonna ask for remeron and clonopin

clonopin isn't a benzo?

MikeyMike125
26-07-2009, 04:18
I took subs for yr and 3 months. took adderall 30 mg IR's for last 7 months. I always take the sub 1 -3 hours before the Adderall, If i do this backwards It doesnt last as long for some reason. (probably cause they gave me CORS not BARR). I read on wiki.com Bupe actually potentiates the effect of Adderall (im guessing a mini-speedball). Im 10 days off 0mg of suboxone and im sorry but i couldnt do it without the Adderall along with clonadine. I know WD's and Aderall = high blood pressure, but this worked for me and everyones different. I barely had ANY bad WD's.

MikeyMike125
26-07-2009, 04:22
So, combine the two, compacting, and constipation and you wlll be shitting bricks (VLOs) every couple of days - not pleasant.
Solution - certainly on any sub maintenance prog. you should take a natural laxative - fig based ones are good. If you end up with the 'double trouble' outlined above, where you've got a compacted shit that won't 'get out and stay out', pop a glycerine suppository up there (2 if its really bad), lay down for 30 mins (you'll feel your bowels 'arguing' with it but hold tight - too early and you'll just shit out slimey liquid), then go for your life, mumbling prayers of thanks to your god...and when you're done - Hallelujah

Don't forget....."Never ever ever!!! .......Trust in a fart. Believe this.

raegirl
13-10-2010, 18:15
She/he didn't say anything about taking a benzo??

colonipin (sp) is a benzo.

motiv311
18-10-2010, 09:41
I think after trying this again... that subutex and adderall potentiate one another in a weird sort of way

K'd-OUT-in-AZ
18-10-2010, 20:51
colonipin (sp) is a benzo.

Its called "Klonopin"

To the OP, I have taken the combination for 2 years now and never noticed any difference. Its safe. I've been on Adderall for a long time now and when I was put onto the Suboxone 2 years ago I never noticed a difference in the effects of Adderall.

tinabean2122
16-11-2010, 06:20
taking adderall and suboxone.... did anyone ever feel like the "adderall" pushes the "suboxone" out of your system = mild withdrawl symptoms??? runny nose, chills, sneezes??? maybe its just me???

Captain.Heroin
16-11-2010, 07:47
Amphetamine and Suboxone is an all right combination. I don't particularly care for Adderall though, I find dexedrine XR to be great with Suboxone.

kaossalami
16-11-2010, 08:00
Yeah its a fine combo but just, watch your diet and bowel movements :)

JamtasticX
16-11-2010, 09:59
My girlfriend gives me some her her adderall sometimes, and I'm on suboxone. Personally I don't find any problems with this combo.

If you're able to get a buzz off the suboxone, and have a low tolerance to the adderall then you can get a really nice feeling going.

(I'm only on adderall right now, no sub for a bit, but I'm feeling great. It a great euphoric combo if you don't have tolerance.)

unsettled
17-11-2010, 15:39
Dexedrine and Suboxone is actually my favorite combo at the moment, very functional combo for me and keeps me away from other drugs. You do have to watch what you eat and take precautions if you get backed up, make sure to drink a lot of water.

benzopiate10
20-11-2010, 05:19
i have been on this combo for a long time. its ok, but its pretty hard on your Bowel movements. be careful you don't taire your asshole, because suboxone will constipate you, and then adderall will suddenly cause you to shoot a brick out your ass

hahaha its funny cause its true.

all i can say is tramadol (500mg) and adderall (20mg ir) is one of the most chill combos ive ever tried. the synth opiate calms you while adderall focuses you, man if i could go to college everyday like this i'd be going to the University of Utopia!

laudium
26-11-2010, 08:42
I am on a suboxone therapy.

2mg-4mg total per day / IV route / 2-3 injections.

I ingested orally 1; 20mg of generic (pink pin-wheel) amphetamine salts (aka Adderall)

I took the drug at 11:30pm. I remember thinking that was a stupid idea, to get jacked up at the time for sleep. To my amazement I actually fell asleep for 1 hour. I took the adderall and 15mins passed and I lay down.

I awake feeling no "upper" feelings. No typical amphetamine side-effects...

I am very experienced in both categories of drugs. It also might be worth noting I did take 3 glasses of wine from like 9pm-10:30pm. Anyways, I had no dry mouth, no euphoria, no jaw oscillations.

All of these happen to me at the 15mg+ amount. I take no dopamine antagonist either.

I only feel slightly more awake than normal...I could easily go back to sleep. The only thing I noticed was an increased heart-rate. I was really aware of my heart beats, but it wasn't tachycardia. It was under 100bpm. Tachycardia is also ALWAYS present.

I doubt its from the alcohol, it had to be the suboxone. Even that theory doesn't make sense to me. Suboxone has nothing to do with DA receptors. Activation of mu receptors can enhance DA, but it can't modulate them downwards, you know?

I read some forums and I seem to be the only one who has reported such. Could I just be that tired? I have been on suboxone for 6months, so its not like the dose it too strong for me.

I like captain hero have found that 2mg IV is plenty of suboxone for like almost 90% of the population. Since all 2mgs enter than brain, its like Im actually taking 4mg+ sub lingual. (sublingual has like a 40-50% BIOA)

Just to say this and Im done.

I don't think people realize how potent buprenorphine is. Especially when its injected into the veins. I think the dosage ceiling starts at 8-12mg and not 32mg. I have found that injecting (suboxone) more than 4mg doesn't nothing more than 1 or 2mg. I understand that might have something to do with the naloxone, as I have never injected pure buprenorphine. I honestly think the naloxone does nothing except slow the buprenorphine from binding to the receptors for 10mins or less.

It just amazing how stupid people are with this idea of naloxone causing the mu-antagonist properties of Suboxone...

Okay thanks all..

unsettled
26-11-2010, 15:31
Suboxone will definitely cancel out alot of the annoying side effects of Adderall, at least for me. If you have a high tolerance to Adderall I could easily see you falling asleep after taking 20mgs, I actually like Adderall better with Suboxone than without it.

To me, as far as Suboxone goes, there is the amount that will keep you out of withdrawal and there is the dosage that will keep away cravings for your opiate of choice. I really thought I was done with opiates for good when I got on Subs but I notice when my Sub dose dips too low I start craving H like crazy.

motiv311
06-01-2011, 11:01
can't sleep on this combo since i've re=tried it

Nib
06-01-2011, 14:43
I've done Coke on Suboxone and it worked pretty well. They're both dopamine right?

DiRtYjErZ
27-01-2011, 01:58
Ok so I been off SMT since oct. I've taken a few opies here n there nvr ovr 30mg n find my tolerance has lowered significantly. I'm tolerant to addy and find the c/d starts early n can be quite harsh. I have approx 5-6mg suboxone. Wondering if it will mix well and/or if anyone thinks I'll catch a buzz n if so wut dose Wuld b good? I was on 2mg-.25mg a day from feb-oct.

jamedog21
28-01-2013, 04:04
Suboxone is still an opiate and is therefore and CNS (Central Nervous System) depressant. Adderall is a CNS stimulant. This being the case, buperenorphine and other opiates do have a tendency to diminish the effects of any stimulant including but not limited to adderall. Tolerance and diet both have huge implications in this. As well as sleep patterns etc. I think the main question that needs ti be answered is, "Will the opiate blocker 'naloxone' that is present in suboxone block the euphoric effects of adderall?" The simple answer to this is "NO". Naloxone is a partial opioid agonist, meaning it occupies the part of your brain that opiates primarily cause to fire in abnormally high levels. This is why suboxone, although primarily an opiate, does not get the user high, but instead nixes the standard withdrawal symptoms most heavy opiate users feel 12 to 24 hours in to remission. Adderall's primary mechanism of action is norepenipherine. The firing of this neurotransmitter causes periphery effects such as excess dopamine in the brain.. enter: euphoria.

Again- the CNS depressant qualities of bike and other opiates will diminish the effects of adderall in general, thus lowering dopamine release, but with the right tolerance and/or dosage you should still receive all the "goodness" that adderall brings to the table.

laCster
28-01-2013, 04:13
Jamedog, why the fuck sis you bump this old ass thread. Such a fail... And everything in your post is complete bullshit. First of amphetamines increase the euphoria of opiates, they both release dopamine and serotonin to a certain extent and the release of dopamine synergizes to create an awesome effect. Secondly, naloxone is an antagonist, not a agonist lmao, so fae from the truth. Thirdly, the buprenorphine has a stronger binding affinity than naloxone so basically the naloxone doesn't do shit in suboxone. People that are opiate naive can get very very high from suboxone. The reason the pharm companies put naloxone in the pills is so that the company can charge more money for the pills as nalxone is expensive. They played this off by saying naloxone will send a user who injects suboxone into withdrawal which is also a lie . I have shot suboxone multiple times and never been in withdrawals from doing so, the experience was also most pleasant.

Also amphetamine aka addys main effects come from dopamine lolol, not norepinephrine. Like I said, opiates release dopamine in the cns and so does amphetamine so essentially a user who combines the two will experience more euphoria than someone who uses alone.

Inb4closed


I'm scripted vyvanse and subutex

bronson
28-01-2013, 09:08
Closed. This is simply too old. The prime function of BDD is to answer questions, and that has already been done here.