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Why does GHB melt plastic?

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new2scene

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A friend poured some into a plastic measuring cup and it turned the plastic kindy smoky and now can peel some of the plastic off the cup? Does this have to do with ph levels or what? Is it harmful to keep G in plastic bottles?
 
My boy had some verve in a Deer Park water bottle and it didn't melt it or damage it in anyway. As far as melting plastic......GHB does consist of floor stripper chemicals, so that may be why.....
 
if anyone has ever read the synthesis of ghb articles,they would know that GOOD ghb should be PH Neutral (or close to it)... therefore should not effect plasic at all (and in my experience, never has, i have kept mine in a plastic drinking bottle for weeks.)...
What you may have that is been passed off as ghb, is 1,4B which is a solvent, and may effect plastic? (and your body badly as well)
If its 1,4B it will have a *chemically* smell taste about it, while ghb basically has no smell, but tastes like your drinking cold sweat!
 
wait... i thought GHB pH was really imporartant because it affected shelf life, because it will like grow bacteria and shit... hmmm... wouldn't neutral make shit easier to contaminate it?
 
Um, i don't get that (about contamination), water is neutral, but its fine if kept in a bottle... anyway this is from erowid , in a synthesis article . http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb_synthesis.shtml
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By smelling GHB liquids it is possible to tell whether there is unreacted lactone in the solution. The primary indicator used to determine if the reaction is complete and useable is pH. The pH of safe liquids are generally between pH 6 and 8. Home chemists use pH papers to test the acidity/alkalinity of their products and then use more NaOH or a little lemon juice or vinegar (acetic acid) to adjust the pH to between 7 and 8. Some chemists say that it is best to keep the acididity of their liquid GHB nearer 8 in order to keep the lactone from 'coming back out of solution'.
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Between 6 and 8 (ph 7 is neutral), some say a TINY bit acidic is good, but its not for anti contamination purposes, its so it doesn't "unreact"..
Anyway, ph 8 even is hardly acidic, not any near the amount to effect plastic (water can be higher than ph8 in some places)...
 
and now for my side of the story..
ghb WILL destroy/melt some plastics...it is a solvent and also reacts with a wide variety of substances. Ive also seen gasoline do similar stuff. I would recommend storing GHB liquid in HDPE (high density polyethelyne) plastic as opposed to PETE (forgot what that stands for) ...the HDPE containers are usually made of the stuff that gallon water bottles are made of and also the small black film containers....you can check by looking on the bottom...by the recycling symbol. Anyone storing it in PETE? Lemme know if thats working out.
plUr
 
WTF are you talking about.
GHB is NOT a solvent, it's a salt usually in water. GBL (precursor of ghb) IS a solvent which can dissolve several plastics, but not HDPE.
 
GHB is a SALT
GBL is a lacatone
14B is an alcohol
GBL can be used to clean floors and degrease engines.
14B can be used to clean CD's.
GHB is a neutral salt and present in the body.
 
GHB SHOULD NOT MELT PLASTIC. your boy FUCKED up, DO NOT drink that!.
7 is nuetral, the higher it gets the more basic it gets, the lower, the more acidic.
peace, outkast
[This message has been edited by outkast (edited 24 May 2001).]
 
I didn't take the time to read all of the above replies, but as far as I know GHB doesn't "melt" plastic.
As for GBL, YES IT DOES. I wouldn't really call it "melting", but it does "take a layer off" if you will. There are little "accident dribble" marks here and there on shit like CD cases, the top of my expensive TV, bit on my leather cell phone case (dunno why it reacted there), I think a bit on my car where the window buttons are, etc. (hehe, don't ask)
I also remember doing the same thing you did the first day I got it. I put a small bit in a plastic tube thing they use for holding coins or whatever and when I got to this party and was sucking the shit out with a syringe to measure it out, the "plastic, white, sticky, jizz-like goo" started clogging up the needle and making a hell of a mess. This was just straight GBL though.
I suppose if you got shitty GHB and it wasn't made correctly and there was still GBL left over from the reaction you could still get some of the melting effect, but I'm no scientist.
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The crew over at the Hive concur on the HDPE plastic bottle for storage of GHB (seen refs at Erowid and Lycaeum too), although I'd agree that glass is probably your best bet.
As far as mold growing in the GHB solution, it's because the solution is not concentrated enough. 1 gram/5 mL tends to mold on me even when refrigerated. 2 grams/5 mL seems to store well for long periods of time with no mold problems.
 
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