alasdairm said:
could you give us a few recommendations in that vein?
it's easy to accuse others of a lack of imagination from the safety of the internet/sofa - what are you doing to address the 'problem'?
alasdair
Sure. Not many films or books directly confront dreams but I have a few in mind that aesthetically I find to be quite similar.
Science of Sleep is one of my favorites that deals directly with dreams.
Hell Alice and Wonderland is pretty wonderful, especially the version by Švankmajer, a Czech filmmaker who makes wonderfully surreal and dreamlike films.
The films of the Brothers Quay are also wonderfully dreamy.
Check out the short "Cat Soup" by studio 4degrees, its surreal and wonderful, you may be able to find it on youtube, and for me is dreamlike and beautiful.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mH5sacgeY5Q here is the first part, part two is linked in it.
The comic book Frank, as well as the series JIM, by Jim Woodring, are fantastically surreal and dreamy, beautiful and creative pen and ink work, mostly wordless journeys though landscapes, crumbling of reality, and shifting worlds.
The films of david lynch and cronenberg both evoke different "dream" experiences for me, the bubbling up of subconscious imagery and bizarre alternate realities.
Same with the above mentioned mindgame, though it doesn't addressing dreaming directly its very much a dreamlike/surreal film.
My complaint is this, given the blank slate of dreams, the absolute freedom of animation, and the infinite creative potential of animators I wonder why not push the collision of the two worlds even further, even more dramatic, and even more bizarre. Dreams are for me, at least the memorable ones, a collection of conscious and subconscious imagery, surprising, surreal, stunningly bizarre, but all operating under a specific "dream time logic", what i mean is they all "work" there is a cohesive force to them, that may not make sense after the dream is had. I feel that the creative potential of this state of mind is nearly limitless and felt that this film barely scratched the surface of this potential. I felt the same way after viewing the 2nd and 3rd matrix films, you have a virtual reality, where someone is able to bend and break the rules of the said reality, you have a collapsing and smearing of the lines between virtual and real, and what did the Wachowski(Sp?) brothers do? They only blew more shit up. I just have higher standards when it comes to tackling a state of mind I feel I am somewhat adept at and incredibly passionate about. A place that is constantly inspiring to me, and a place where the art which emerges should honor.
I did not dislike this film, I was only disappointed with the treatment of the source, a purely subjective viewpoint, one that I understand would not exist in someone who views dreams differently. Maybe the hype made me too excited.
I understand the "problem" or armchair criticisms but thats the nature of most art criticisms/reviews. You ask what I am doing to rectify this situation. Well I express myself through both visual art (some old pieces are uploaded to this site, though those are unfinished and older pieces) and writing, both of which borrow heavily from my dream experiences, especially my writing.
http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=42152&cat=510
http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=42149&cat=510
http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=36611&cat=510
granted I lean more towards the psychedelic as I said my writing if far more dream oriented, but as a fan of Miiyazaki and such I find my self to have pretty high creative/magical/dreamy standards for the animated medium.