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babygetoboy
26-01-2007, 00:36
Hey guys, just have a quick question.

Just wondering, I have some extra klonopins this month, and wanted to experiment with them. I have been taking 1mg per night for about a year, as prescribed.

With this tolerance , just was curious how much I should take to feel any effect, and what is the best way to take it, snort it?

Thanks in advance, sorry if it's been covered before, I searched but couldn't find it.

klowns
26-01-2007, 01:29
you most likely wont get high off any dose. but you should be more fucked up if yo overdose em a lil. i would guess around 8 mg for a person with your tolerance. just for me, i dont feel any dose if i have been using them regularly. id say go for 6-15 mg. somewhere in that range will most likely catch you some alteration.

babygetoboy
26-01-2007, 01:34
Thanks, should I just swallow them or snort them for best effect?

Also, I have some baclofen, would this help at all?

klowns
26-01-2007, 01:49
wel;l let me give you a lil background to so ill sound more legit lmao. anyhow, yeah i have been on benxos for about 5 years. first three months xanax. then valium and kpin, then for the past 3 or 4 years jsut kpin. in the early days i abused them all the time. now i take 2 mg in the morning, and 2 at night. never differs.
I personaly can still actualy get a pretty cool rush/buzz from snorting them. its real hard for me to feel anything off them oraly for me. i definatly dig snorting some kpins, (yeah i know ill get flamed to hell for saying that) dont listen to anyone who tells you things have to be water soluable to be snorted. if you like snorting, then go for it! i woudlnt really recomend snorting over 4 though so you dont clog up your nose. let me put myself in your shoes for a minute........i would
pop 4 kpins under tounge
crush and snort 4 kpins
eat for kpins
if in an hour your not feeling where you want to be, either continue injesting till you like what you feel, or give up
though honestly i dont know. you may get high as fuckk off just 4 mg. doubt it, but never know! yeah go with 4 up the nose first and see if your feeling anything
peace merry benzohaze friend!

klowns
26-01-2007, 01:49
also sorry i dont know what balcofen is!

qwe
26-01-2007, 01:54
don't snort kpins or any benzo, it doesnt work very well. if you want them to kick in faster/harder than oral, you could use them sublingually, but it's not really necessary with benzos. benzos are fine orally

without tolerance, 1-2mg is sufficient for a recreational dose. asuming you have some tolerance, i'd reccomend 2-4mg

egor
26-01-2007, 02:01
Sublingual is my method of choice for all benzos. The tast of the benzos other than klonipin(sweet, sort of minty;)) will become less vile as you begin to associate the taste with the effects. I know salivate at the flavor of xan bars.

The doses for klonipin are way off klowns. A good dose of klon for someone without a tolerance is 2-3mg. Even with a tolerance, the doses you suggest are just stupid. Dont follow them anyone else!

klowns
26-01-2007, 02:02
agreed kpins taste like minty numby sexy delight

babygetoboy
26-01-2007, 02:14
What dosage do you reccomend egor for someone who has been taking 1mg nightly for a year?

klowns
26-01-2007, 02:23
dude you jsut seem to have something against me mr EGOr. wtf? the doses i listed on not stupid. some people are PRESCRIBED 20 mg a day dude. 8-15 mg for a newb would be a lil rediculous sure, but this here fellow has beeen taking them every day for a year. that means they are used to teh effects of kpins. that means 8-15 is not stupid. you can take a couple hundred mg and be ok. very safe drugs. you suggest to him 2-3 mg? man he said he wanted to get high. trust me, 2-3 mg is most likely not going to do it for you

XxJUSTSAYNOxX
26-01-2007, 04:12
dude you jsut seem to have something against me mr EGOr. wtf? the doses i listed on not stupid. some people are PRESCRIBED 20 mg a day dude. 8-15 mg for a newb would be a lil rediculous sure, but this here fellow has beeen taking them every day for a year. that means they are used to teh effects of kpins. that means 8-15 is not stupid. you can take a couple hundred mg and be ok. very safe drugs. you suggest to him 2-3 mg? man he said he wanted to get high. trust me, 2-3 mg is most likely not going to do it for you

a couple hundred mg of k pins and be ok? whoa i dont think so. im new to the benzo game but have 1 month of k pin experimenting. 2mg mid day (when the effects of the previous night's dose deplete.then 2 more early evening. i find it give me a nice relaxed non anxious day, and because of the half life, the effects are peaking at night when i really wanna chill and then go to sleep

is it possible you have k pins (clonazepam) confused with valium (diazepam)? cuz that would be more of a realistic sounding recommendation for a dose if talking about valiums, which from refering from several benzo conversion charts i've found 0.5mg-1mg of k pins = 10 mg of diazepam.......

if you do the math, that's alot of benzos in ya. damn

TheTwighlight
26-01-2007, 04:20
My tolerance for benzos went fucking through the roof after a while. I had a doctor prescribing me 16mg of Klonopin and 2mg of Xanax a day. Plus I was buying bars and valium elsewhere all the time. I stopped taking valium once I could take 200mg with absolutely no effect (meaning I could still panic on that dose). I have taken 250mg of Xanax with 80mg of Klonopin (in 24 hours) and stayed conscious before. Every time I take Xanax now, even with zero tolerance, I take around 20 - 60mg. It's ridiculously expensive and I'm no longer addicted, so I don't do that often. 1 bar would do nothing to me.

enoughorangejuice?
26-01-2007, 04:22
whoever said take 6-15mg needs to relax on the fucking kpins...thats just asking for trouble. Its not a fun drug. Take 2-4mg, you'll feel it alright, but its not really that fun, i have a script and when i take it i just want to be alone somewhere away from everyone else...

sonic
26-01-2007, 04:49
-> Drug Basics. As always, mods do as you see fit with this thread.

Whatever you do, don't snort it. If you're used to taking 1mg and you're looking for a recreational dose, try 2-3mg orally or sublingually (under your tongue).

mobster281
26-01-2007, 06:38
Man Klonopin dont really fuck you up. The first day I got prescribed Klonopin I took 3 2mgs and all it did was relax me a little. It didnt fuck me up like xanax would

egor
26-01-2007, 08:12
dude you jsut seem to have something against me mr EGOr. wtf? the doses i listed on not stupid. some people are PRESCRIBED 20 mg a day dude. 8-15 mg for a newb would be a lil rediculous sure, but this here fellow has beeen taking them every day for a year. that means they are used to teh effects of kpins. that means 8-15 is not stupid. you can take a couple hundred mg and be ok. very safe drugs. you suggest to him 2-3 mg? man he said he wanted to get high. trust me, 2-3 mg is most likely not going to do it for you


Nothing personal, klowns, but this a harm reduction forum, and those doses are just fucking rediculas. Telling other people to do way too much is really a dick thing to do. Err on the side of caution with your drug use, and you will enjoy it alot more.

egor
26-01-2007, 08:13
-> Drug Basics. As always, mods do as you see fit with this thread.

Whatever you do, don't snort it. If you're used to taking 1mg and you're looking for a recreational dose, try 2-3mg orally or sublingually (under your tongue).


Now that dose sounds less INSANE

temporary error
26-01-2007, 08:14
Klonipin can be a very useful drug, especially if you have long term general anxiety problems. It's also nice to just chill with after a long day, or to ease the comedown off of stims or E. But, I wouldn't call it recreational. It doesn't really produce a high, just short term relief of anxiety/stress. There really isn't euphoria, so to speak, especially if you are used to opioids. The main problem with benzos in general is that if you are trying to abuse them, it's really easy to take more and more and more without really realizing what you are doing. The good news is that as long as you don't mix the benzos with ANY other depressant, (alcohol, opioids, barbs, GHB, etc) a fatal dose is enormous. More than most people could fathom consuming. Throw booze in the mix though, and the amount of benzos required for a fatal overdose plummets. So just keep that in mind, and don't keep taking more and more because you are trying to achieve opioid like euphoria.

dunkin_nugs
26-01-2007, 08:15
To feel the effects of klonopin or clonazepam I'd say for a first time dose anywhere from 0.5mg's to 3mg's would do the trick if your a person that doesnt have a Obesity problem.

klowns
26-01-2007, 21:08
a couple hundred mg of k pins and be ok? whoa i dont think so. im new to the benzo game but have 1 month of k pin experimenting. 2mg mid day (when the effects of the previous night's dose deplete.then 2 more early evening. i find it give me a nice relaxed non anxious day, and because of the half life, the effects are peaking at night when i really wanna chill and then go to sleep

is it possible you have k pins (clonazepam) confused with valium (diazepam)? cuz that would be more of a realistic sounding recommendation for a dose if talking about valiums, which from refering from several benzo conversion charts i've found 0.5mg-1mg of k pins = 10 mg of diazepam.......

if you do the math, that's alot of benzos in ya. damn

dude you do the math cause your straght wrong trust me. benzos are virtualy impossible to od on unless combined with other downers, but mainly opiates. huge does of opies combined wiht huge doses of ebnzos can kill you yes. but people have injested far more than 200 mg kpin and been jsut fine. and i know this is a harm reduction site. i didnt say anything harmful. 6-15 mg for a tolerant individual is about the right range of doseing. theres no way in fukcing hell someone who has takin kpin everynight for a year is going to feel 2-4 mg . sorry it just is extremely unlikely he will get high unless he injests at least 6 mg in my opinion.

klowns
26-01-2007, 21:11
and once again, snorting kpins is fine. this has been discussed so many times i cant believe people are still perpetuating this myth. sure theres no need to realy, except that it can give you a quiker nice lil rush, and when i first go into benzos thats the only way i used them. i snorted xanax all the time and felt it instantly. same with z-hypnotic, i used to love snorting sonatas and ambiens.

NameTaken
26-01-2007, 23:01
The problem with klonopin overdose is not death from the toxicity, its from the stupid stuff you can't remember. Like hopping into your car, and smashing it up, along with a house or a person. You'll literally wake up in the hospital, or in a totaled car on your front lawn with NO recollection of what happened.

You have time I assume? If you have more than 48 hours left to live, why take too much and have a horrible time, when you can experiment with dosages.

Three suggestions:

1. Try tripling your dosage to start.

2. They won't get you really high anyways, so don't take more halfway in to try to get some feeling you're not really gonna get.

3. Klonopins are MADE to be eaten, their availability is very high when eaten. Don't snort them unless you like pill binder in your nose and placebo effects. Crush em up or put them under your tongue if you really want.

egor
26-01-2007, 23:14
You will feel the klon just as quick sublingually, it took 35-45 minutes for snorted klon to hit me back when I wasted them like that.

TheTwighlight
26-01-2007, 23:29
Damn, NameTaken, you've had the totalled car experience on Klonopin, too? That shit sucks. I STILL can't remember what happened when I totalled my last car.

klowns
28-01-2007, 05:25
believe what you want, but theres no way in hell im going to believe that 3 mg iss going to get this guy high. even with very little almost no tolerance, i would require 8 mg to feel anything off kpin. for the record they are euphoric, and in some people do produce a great high. also, quit claiming snorting kpins is placebo becasue you have no info to back that up, although i do have info to back up that it works. things do not have to be water soluable to be snorted. why would they work subliungualy if they didnt work up your nose? that makes no sense. i feel a great calm rush within minutes of snorting it. then im sure whatever doesnt get absorbed drips down my throat and hits me anyways, so as i see it, theres nothing wrong with snorting benzos, it does work, and you will feel it alot quiker. if you are in the mid of a panic attack, thats just what you need. something quick. not 2 hours like kpin takes when you take it oraly. even sublingualy try an hour at least. up theh nose you feel it within minutes, though full effects probably dont peak for 30-60 more minutes.

TheTwighlight
28-01-2007, 18:38
I don't want to put anyone in harm's way, but I have to agree with klowns to some degree. I don't think that 3mg is gonna touch the guy. But it's better to start with a low enough dose that you don't cause near-immediate amnesia, where the guy wakes up in a holding tank because he was fighting children in the local park.

textodd11
21-10-2008, 23:06
Don't believe some of these clowns in here. K-pins are not completely safe. Just had a REALLY good friend die on K-pins and booze. Nada, no more, gone forever and he didn't take that many (like maybe 4mg). Don't be stupid.

dwg52378
15-03-2009, 08:38
-> Drug Basics. As always, mods do as you see fit with this thread.

Whatever you do, don't snort it. If you're used to taking 1mg and you're looking for a recreational dose, try 2-3mg orally or sublingually (under your tongue).

sorry to reply to an old thread but:

You guys are all talking about tiny tiny Klonopin doses!! 8o
I have no benzo tolerance (never have taken a benzo). I have recently starting a Clonazepam (Klonopin) program, as per my doctors suggestion, to ease the withdrawal symptoms associated with opioid addiction. I started with 2mg, 4mg and now 6mg doses. it's hardly doing anything;certainly nothing recreational. Dizziness, clumsiness, confusion and finally asleep. So are my doses (2,4,6mg) considered high doses for the benzodiazepine naive individual? can I take more? Does my high opioid tolerance hinder the Clonazepam? it shouldn't as there is no cross tolerance. Does this drug just suck? Is there any euphoria or blissful sedation?

cyanide68
21-03-2009, 01:29
dwg52378,
There is no "blissful sedation" but there is sedation. Your previous addiction to opies could be hindering your reaction to the kpins (clonazepam). Even though there is no cross tolerance, the effects of the drugs are similar, and you could just be used to them, maybe a "norm" for your body.
As for the dosage, I took kpins by script for about a year, and while I was scripted them, I played around with them a bit. My experience has been that some people get the effects from it, some don't. It's really odd, because I can take .5mg Xanax and feel it, but I can also take 4-8mg kpins and not feel a damn thing, even though they are medically equivalent.
The kpins are more for long-lasting effects, and I would recommend taking under the tongue (though it tastes a bit off) at maybe 6-8 mg for you, (from your post). It, at least for me, works better than snorting it. (Plus you can wash it down and not have to deal with the drips xD)

Don't worry about posting in old threads, sometimes someone will come across it, but do search it out first, there's tons of threads to go through.

Good luck
Cyanide

StayinAwake
21-03-2009, 05:50
sorry to reply to an old thread but:

You guys are all talking about tiny tiny Klonopin doses!! 8o
I have no benzo tolerance (never have taken a benzo). I have recently starting a Clonazepam (Klonopin) program, as per my doctors suggestion, to ease the withdrawal symptoms associated with opioid addiction. I started with 2mg, 4mg and now 6mg doses. it's hardly doing anything;certainly nothing recreational. Dizziness, clumsiness, confusion and finally asleep. So are my doses (2,4,6mg) considered high doses for the benzodiazepine naive individual? can I take more? Does my high opioid tolerance hinder the Clonazepam? it shouldn't as there is no cross tolerance. Does this drug just suck? Is there any euphoria or blissful sedation?

In my experience with opiate withdrawal, taking a k-pin instead of an opiate is just swapping one thing for another. There is another drug out there that isn't addictive to lessen the physical withdrawal symptoms. It's called Clonidine. Works wonders.

However, if you are doing this to form another addiction habit, then ok then. Case closed.

Sorry, I just have a "sore ass" when it comes to this subject because I was an opiate junkie for 7 years and came off with the clonidine and phenobarbital (had a seizure).

brian-amp
21-03-2009, 05:57
I had been taking klonopin x 2 or 4 mg per day for a year. I weighed 175 lbs. One day I took 10 mg, and all I felt was punch drunk. Had to lay on the floor. A year later stopped cold turkey, and had very bad advcerse health problems, alongside of some good old fashioned "I don't know what HR is" .......I'm lookin to murder some of these clowns, as I write this I am thinking about killing the people responsible for my ill health.

vortex30
22-03-2009, 00:25
Don't believe some of these clowns in here. K-pins are not completely safe. Just had a REALLY good friend die on K-pins and booze. Nada, no more, gone forever and he didn't take that many (like maybe 4mg). Don't be stupid.

Sorry to hear that...It was the booze that killed him though. He could have taken 50mg of Clonazepam with no booze and survived quite easily if no one let him do something stupid like walk down the high-way or w/e.

foreverturk05
13-06-2009, 02:07
Hey all- I'm new here... I have a question. I have been taking 3mgs of xanax a day (all at once, and get a pretty chill high off of it) My Dr just prescribed me Klonipn (sp?) How many Ks would I have to take to get the same effect as three mgs of xanax?? Thanks :)

drOperator
23-10-2009, 03:48
when i got home from iraq they put me on sertraline for ptsd but that shit didnt work. then i had to did this battlemind program. i just saw my doctor yesterday and she said she wants me on clonazopam for short term effects, so i literally just started taking them. on the bottle it says take one 1 mg tablet as needed. how many should i take to feel 'good'?

drOperator
23-10-2009, 03:56
also, how long does it last?

Sweet P
23-10-2009, 04:13
^ Totally depends on your tolerance, body size, etc. If you wanna get high from them I'd suggest taking 2mg first, then another 2mg sometime after that. Gradual doses are safer than taking one big dose at once. You'll notice the effects for a few hours, at the least. Don't mix with alcohol or other depressants if you aren't used to benzos... it greatly intensifies the effects and can be a dangerous combo.

Mystery Brew
23-10-2009, 06:21
Damn, NameTaken, you've had the totalled car experience on Klonopin, too? That shit sucks. I STILL can't remember what happened when I totalled my last car.

story of my life

before we get anyone reading this blacked out and pillage/rape a town. Im just going to put this out there. clonazepam takes around 2 hours to peak in your blood. easy way to black if you just keeping popping by the minutes

TheTwighlight
23-10-2009, 09:01
story of my life

before we get anyone reading this blacked out and pillage/rape a town. Im just going to put this out there. clonazepam takes around 2 hours to peak in your blood. easy way to black if you just keeping popping by the minutes

Klonopin is like, my favorite pharmaceautical drug. I still take it, even with no tolerance now, and small amounts I can feel. But I can also take a whole bunch and still feel like I'm somewhat coherent.

DarksidePharmacist
23-10-2009, 13:34
Clonazepam is one benzo that fucked me up. I had never tried it and i came by a bottle of Rivotril oral drops. Not realising how potent the stuff is, i downed half the bottle and slept for about 16 hours, through my alarm and my phone going off next to my head (which was my boss calling to see where the fuck i was). I think it was the long half live that surprised me. I usually check such things out before trying new stuff these days :D

TheTwighlight
24-10-2009, 03:39
The first time I took Klonopin I took 28mg and blacked out for 40 hours, and woke up thinking it was the next day, when in fact it was the day after that. It was horrible.

Sweet P
24-10-2009, 04:42
^ I'm not surprised! 28mg is a ridiculously high dose for a first time! I've been taking clonaz daily for 6 years, have an insane tolerance, and am hopelessly dependant on the stuff. But I've never once needed to take that much.

drOperator
24-10-2009, 06:20
this might be a bit off topic here, but can clonazepam really shut down your CNS? how much would it take?

Sweet P
24-10-2009, 06:36
^ If your CNS shuts down, you die. It's actually rather difficult to die from benzos alone - or at least, more difficult that most people realise. You're more likely to wind up in a coma. Things become much more dangerous when benzos are combined with other CNS depressants.

drOperator
24-10-2009, 06:41
so eating, like, 5mg won't shut it down then?

Sweet P
24-10-2009, 06:46
^ Nope. 5mg is a reasonably high dose for someone with no tolerance... it might make you real sleepy, but it shouldn't cause any harm. Just remember not to drink alcohol or do opiates with it!

drOperator
24-10-2009, 06:56
that wont be a problem. thanks for the help!

TheTwighlight
24-10-2009, 07:27
Look, not dicksizing here, but you won't shut down your CNS system from benzos alone. I took 330mg alprazolam with a bunch of other shit and was fine. Of course, I had a tolerance, but I'm just sayin'...

Sweet P
24-10-2009, 08:50
I took 330mg alprazolam with a bunch of other shit and was fine. Of course, I had a tolerance, but I'm just sayin'...

You and I both have a tolerance, but the guy asking the question doesn't. What's the point of even saying something like that?

TheTwighlight
25-10-2009, 01:21
The point of saying something like that is to say "good luck shutting your system down with benzos only".

drOperator
25-10-2009, 21:40
i took 2.5 mg klonopins yesterday. is it safe to drink today? like, a lot?