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Le Junk
14-09-2006, 23:31
Need a quick, knowledgeable answer on this one. Thanks!

:)

Junk

staminawalks
14-09-2006, 23:33
less effective hands down...

Visu04atBLUE
14-09-2006, 23:36
just swollow it!

Le Junk
14-09-2006, 23:38
Thanks guys, that's all I needed.

phrozen
14-09-2006, 23:40
Not water soluable. Swallow it.

geetered
15-09-2006, 00:05
sublingual use is best IMO for valium... No, there are no benefits to snorting it

Le Junk
15-09-2006, 00:07
Not water soluable. Swallow it.

Actually to the contrary, it is water soluble. Also in alcohol. I just did a quick Google search for "solubility of valium in water". In fact, most users report a more intense buzz from snorting it. I was surprised as well!

I was thinking that if I ever got caught out somewhere with dirty blow, I could just crush up some valiums and mix them in with the speedy blow to mellow out the ampyness. It would certainly make a great Saint Patty's Day gag!

Before I ever learned how to clean up bad coke, I always had valiums on hand for those miserable amped out, geeked out, non-talkative, dirty blow evenings. Good times. 8)

In fact, valiums taken with bad blow make bad blow somewhat similiar to good blow.....................in the most remote sense, of course.

Junk ;)

staminawalks
15-09-2006, 00:30
^in theory that would be great..

seems like you're goinna have to get to the lab and get us soem asnwers..

Le Junk
15-09-2006, 00:49
^in theory that would be great..

seems like you're goinna have to get to the lab and get us soem asnwers..

Alright, if you insist, then you'll leave me no choice! ;)

wesmdow
15-09-2006, 02:11
eat your valium

donkeyPUNCH
15-09-2006, 02:17
i dont think it matters IME. snorted or eaten, valium just makes me sleepy. but then again, i dont really like benzos that much.

stbizzle
15-09-2006, 02:24
Everything is a more intense buzz from snorting it it hit all of the membranes in you nasal area, plus you just swallow the drainage how do you guy says its less effective

phrozen
15-09-2006, 03:34
Actually to the contrary, it is water soluble.


Well, that's news to me. I did a quick BL search(plenty of threads about this) and the closest to confirming that, is someone saying it's slightly water soluable. Regardless, that wouldn't make snorting it worthwhile.

Where'd you see that at?

d g
15-09-2006, 03:54
I'm not sure if diazepam is actually water soluble, I did think that for a chemical to be absorbed by the sinuses it had to be water soluble?

I say to take pills the way they were supposed to be taken. IE- eating them.

edit: Of course I jumped the gun and didn't read the other posts. Is the bioavailability of snorting diazepam higher than that of oral consumption?

edit: for certain I knew clonazepam was minimally water soluble, however I know nothing about drugs whatsoever and to whomever takes them...you're all losers!
^^

lyserg
15-09-2006, 04:03
I'm not sure if diazepam is actually water soluble, I did think that for a chemical to be absorbed by the sinuses it had to be water soluble?

I say to take pills the way they were supposed to be taken. IE- eating them.

edit: Of course I jumped the gun and didn't read the other posts. Is the bioavailability of snorting diazepam higher than that of oral consumption?

No thats a common misconception that drugs have to be water soluble to get absorbed by insufflation. It does have to do with part of it but a drug being lipophilic can make it effectively get aborbed. And no the bioavailability of insufflated diazepam is less than that or oral absorption because it has a real high oral bioavailability. It kind of works either way but i think eatings it gives the best effects, besides IV of course and plugging in some cases.

lyserg
15-09-2006, 04:05
Everything is a more intense buzz from snorting it it hit all of the membranes in you nasal area, plus you just swallow the drainage how do you guy says its less effective

No thats not true at all, where did you get that bullshit information? The bioavailability is significantly lower than oral administration in a lot of drugs. Also the only thing that snorting does in a lot of cases is just make it come on quicker. That doesnt mean its a better high IMO.

d g
15-09-2006, 04:16
No thats not true at all, where did you get that bullshit information? The bioavailability is significantly lower than oral administration in a lot of drugs. Also the only thing that snorting does in a lot of cases is just make it come on quicker. That doesnt mean its a better high IMO.


Quicker onset usually leads to shorter duration, stronger 'hit' however limited in it's duration. Not always true, just in my 'observations'

Karaboudjan
15-09-2006, 04:19
I was under the impression that a drug had to be water soluble to be effective when plugged, is this true or is it lipophilic or something that's the important part?

jasoncrest
15-09-2006, 04:32
Eat them on an empty stomach, almost as effective and quick than when IVed....

Stars Fall In
15-09-2006, 11:21
sublingually would be faster than sollowing, you feel it pretty much straight away. It doesn't taste that bad either, nothing like Xanax which tastes like absolute shit.

leftwing
15-09-2006, 14:47
i agree with the sublingual way. i kinda like the taste too haha

Gaz_hmmmm
15-09-2006, 15:14
i agree with the sublingual way. i kinda like the taste too haha

Ditto!!

I snap the pills into quarters and then pop'em under my tongue.

For something to be snortable it has to be either water or fat soluble!!!!!!!!

leftwing
15-09-2006, 15:21
i do the same with my tramdol and they kick in a hell of a lot quicker than just swallowing. it also depends on if youve eaten or not etc,

peace out

Institutionalizer
15-09-2006, 15:45
TOTALY one of the most confusing discussions. i figure its just about useless to get powder in your nose for that 5 seconds or what have you, that might be the dif. but just to be sure (and to nothave to read these threads anymore) im gonna go home and try it out.

Institutionalizer
15-09-2006, 15:46
For something to be snortable it has to be either water or fat soluble!!!!!!!!

H aint water soluble, still people snort it. though its recomended to keep it in your nose, and not inhale the same way you do with speed.

phrozen
15-09-2006, 16:13
^ Be more specific, state the type you're talking about if you're gonna say that.